Surprised I haven't seen any discussion of this here.
I just finished it. Since they are clearly setting up for a third game, what are some predictions for who will be playable in Bravely Third?
because the game was complete shit
>>335943459
Hopefully
>Ringabel
>Edea
>Magnolia
>Yew?
I don't think Tiz or Agnes are going to be playable sincethey're getting married and are going to live happily ever after
Who knows, maybe it'll be 4 new characters since literally everyone of the main cast has a lover
>>335943521
>i didn't play the game
Another censored release from our good buddies at Nintendo.
And don't pawn it off on Square. Nintendo published it. They had the final say.
Didn't really like the playable characters desu. Ringabel was my man.The amount of thicc in this game is too much and the lack of porn kills me.
It's censorshit.
What do you expect?
>>335943459
>tfw Janne wont be one of the heroes now
It's in the mail
Any advice for a starter op
>>335944805
Don't be afraid to bounce around jobs a lot to get some good low-level support skills.
Try and make your jobs complement each other, i.e. tanky job + job that makes you stronger when you get attacked.
>>335944805
Spellcraft is great with all magic and can be used with ALL magic, not just Spirit Magic.
It's fine to try out new jobs but try to balance your team, having 3 mages and 1 melee isn't a good idea neither is the opposite.
Catmancer is good when you get some abilities for it
Don't bother buying weapons + armor every town and only buy magic you think you will use.
Bishop has the best healing magic in the game and you don't need the healing stat (mind) to use it effectively.
>>335943459
>Bravely Censored
It's trash
How do you get good chains going?
WITHOUT spending MP on spell stuff.
>anons bashing the censors
It's your fault for not having cfw.
The censorship, while not needed, was so minor that if you honestly refuse to get the game over something tiny like this you're just being petty. It's a good game.
>Bravely Censorshit
>>335946335
If you want an easy one you need the Red Mage and Ranger jobs
>get Red Mage to 5?6? on everyone for BP Recovery
>give everyone BP Recovery
>give everyone the level 1 Ranger ability Hunting
>give everyone good weapons
>go to weak area
>use Berserking on everyone set to auto
>they'll kill everyone
>hit L
>repeat for however many chains you want
If you've gotten to the Harena region get everyone Halfsies and buy 99 phoenix downs, go to Grapp Keep
>everyone braves 4x uses Halfsies Phoenix down on all foes
>repeat 3-4 encounters
>gg
>>335946565
>>335946496
if a game is censored at all it is absolute dog shit
t. shitposters
What's the fucking censorship meme ? Nobody cares about costumes, and what they did to sidequest is actually a lot better since you don't have to go through it a bazillion times to get the good ending.
>>335946724
No, actually he said it's your fault for not having cfw and just that.
>>335946846
They censored the fucking artbook
>nobody cares about costumes
then why censor them?
>people too busy bitching about their political opinions about game developers to actually talk about the fucking video game
I swear this site has become just as bad as Tumblr.
Talk about the fucking game.
>>335947081
How about you start?
>>335946783
>if a game is censored at all it is absolute dog shit
So fix the game dumbass.
ITT: anon cries about the censorship bogeyman
>>335946991
Alright, fine. -Most- people don't care, and honestly it's not like having a couple costumes or two changed makes the game shit, it might make you upset for five seconds and then you just don't care about it unless you're absolutely autistic, or you find a solution, like I did changing my Swordfencer (or whatever it's called in English, played in French) from Edea to Magnolia cause I didn't like the way Edea looked. There, all better.
>>335947271
>treating censorship as though it's a problem
If it's a gud game, it's going to get an uncensor patch or sex mods to fix it.
Censorship is for normie retards who deserve it.
>>335943840
Played until Chapter 5 when I realized there was no reason to even keep playing.
Also related, how does it feel looking at a cut party member turned into a half assed villain?
>>335943459
>clearly setting up for a third game
Aww yess, rehash that shit. Just like CoD or FROM Software, makes us pay for the same game five times in a row. Awwww yea.
>>335947439
The fact that it needs a fix in the first place is the problem. Do you not see that?
These people are being paid to neuter the content out of your games, and you're expected mods the material back in.
Is Nintendo Bethesda now? Actually no, because on a level, Bethesda supports fans altering their games.
>>335947557
feels bad man.
>>335946783
Don't have Red Mage or Ranger sadly. The best I have been able to do is use either Dual Wield + Quad Wield, or now using Knuckle Lore + Eagle Eye to help the accuracy. Is there any way I can do better? I want to level up Catmancer and Patissier.
>>335947648
It helps weed out the shit.
I thought Excorcist would be a shitty gimmick job, but it's OP as hell.
UNDO UNDO UNDO
Should be called "that kid who cheats at board games".
>People complaining about censorship
>When you should have hacked your 3DS already and gotten uncensored versions for free
>>335947321
If you mean the job that swaps between the two stances in english it is Fencer
If you mean the job that counters attacks in english it is Swordmaster
costume could be worse. Your primary offensive spellcaster could have been Yew and you had to make him aYokai. Literally worst costume in the game, would rather him wear the fucking towel or that removed japanese man thong
>>335947557
Feels fine since I didn't like his design at all. Even Yew was a better character than him and Yew is the worst. Now if Private Piddler or Sergeant Sapp were supposed to be a main character I'd be mad.
>his fencer costume is just his Empire uniform
>>335947771
The Grapp Keep strat I posted is very good. You'll get some okay pg from it as well. If you have someone with a high patissier level and level 1 freelancer you can just use the support ability that makes it so 1 item affects everyone I believe.
>>335948064
See >>335947648
Users can change a game several thousand ways. Truly shit games can become great through mods.
Does that mean criticism of the base game becomes invalid somehow?
>>335947439
Of there's one thing to say about the people who look forward to anime sex games, it's they sure love to pay for their games instead of just signing up anonymously and then pirating their deeply sexualized fap fantasies
>>335948065
Sweet thanks.
>>335943459
Bravely Second is better than the first game for the sole fact that there isn't any unnecessary padding. A shame that it got slightly censored, but unlike Fates, I can play it without feeling like something's amiss. Looking past the localization, the combat is as good as ever, and I feel like the bosses are more balanced overall. The story doesn't really have me drawn in like Default's, but imo, story isn't really the priority with the Bravely games.
>>335948384
To be honest, most of the reason I play these types of games is for the story/character development. Both had pretty good stories imo, although Second's got way too weird at the end.
Default had way better music though (some of its tracks are still used in Second, but the original tracks from Second aren't as good)
>>335943459
Game was poop, that's probably why. I'm surprised people even went for the second after the first was entirely mediocre and forgettable.
>>335948607
I agree that Default's soundtrack was better. Nothing about Second's really stands out from what I've heard.
>that part where you are on camera
2spooky
>>335948893
>I've heard
Opinion discarded.
>>335949053
As in heard the music, you retard.
>>335947557
Feels great, actually. His VA ruins his character and the motives they gave him for doing all the bad shit he does is absurdly not worth the effort he goes through. Now if he took up Yew's spot, that would be fine because Yew is as bland as Tiz was in BD where Tiz was suppose to be while Yew is made out to be some special snowflake.
>>335948238
Is it really the base game if NoA is changing it and we're trying to get the uncensored, original version?
>>335949137
You could have fooled me.
>>335947081
It's shit tbqh
I dropped it not long after getting the hot springs boat.
>>335949053
And how exactly should you form conclusions about music?
>>335949323
It's the base game of the western release, and the one that they're trying to sell you.
That's the one they're arguing is worth the price of admission- changes and all.
I would personally grade the Japanese and western versions differently, due to the changes.
>>335946724
So stop shitting up threads then
>>335947081
Best thing I did was filter all mention of censor.
>>335949549
I'm discussing the game, even if it's not in a favorable light. You don't have to respond to me, and you can continue to converse about anything you like regarding it.
If you don't think my complaints are valid though, I'm willing to debate that.
Plot tried to get a little too meta at the end.Altair and Vega and Deneb are supposed to be from the "real world", right?
>>335949791
Okay, hun
The character interactions warm the cockles of my heart.
>>335949791
I don't like the censorship either, but talking about game politics isn't discussing the game.
Discussing the game is talking about gameplay or the plot or something.
>>335950021
Literally why are you engaging a shitposter
>>335949997
>Fooffoodfoodfoodfodddddoooodddgraaaavyfoooodmrrgrrefood
>>335949997
>>335949997
b-b-blockhead
What are some good uses with the Patissier and Astrologian? Doesn't the Performer just completely out rank the Astrologian in terms of boosting skills? I can understand Patissier with Waste Not, but is there any awesome set ups with Patissier?
>>335950134
Performer probably beats Astrologian at high level, but for midgame you may not have Astrologian's built-in skill, and Performer's abilties use a lot more MP, which may be a problem
>>335949479
Not from other people's opinions, that's a given.
>>335949796
Who cares? Its a bunch of people we know little about and pulled out of the developers ass for the last hour or so of the game.
>>335946783
>if a game is censored at all it is absolute dog shit
Bravely Second has the privilege of being a shit game whether it is censored or not.
Can you use blast or groupcast all to use "undo HP" on your whole party?
If so, do you choose which turn for each person individually?
>>335946724
>as the dev intended
Square made the changed based on player feedback, so you are playing it as they intended :^)
>>335946846
>Nobody cares about costumes in a game with a job system where you change outfit/costume depending on the job
I think you'll find you are the minority.
>>335947557
You do realize that's fanart, right? Pixiv filename?
I'd love if he were a party member, though.
>playing this shit game when Yew was confirmed the MC and not Magnolia
>playing this shit game when Edea was announced to return coupled with fighting boss fights you already fought 5 times in the first game
Square Enix clearly cut the budget for the sequel DESPITE saying "wow, the first game exceeded expectations in the west"
Why did Caldisa disappear off the map?
>for the gravy
>this will be our coup de gravy
>lets give them gravy
>im a ba'al buster
>its time to bust some ba'als
They should be applauded on how they managed to write the worst fucking characters and dialogue in this game and reusing the same dungeons and bosses/assets for about 80% of the game without significant backlash.
>>335950706
Exorcist skills can't be used while in ghost state so I don't think they count as magic.
>>335951226
It didn't. You just forgot about it.
>>335951423
It's in the center in BD which means it must be near one of the edges in BS but I can't find it. Note I'm still in Chapter 1, just got Astroligan.
>>335950021
>but talking about game politics isn't discussing the game
There is content in this game that's been directly altered.
I'm not going off on Gamergate or whatever. I'm talking about an issue inherently in the game.
>>335950134
In terms of sheer stat boosting, yes Performer outclasses Astrologian,easily. However, high level Astrologian magic allows you to enhance elemental damage, you give, reflect certain elemental magic, nullify it completely for a few turns, and in the late game, prevent all status effects for a few turns, all of which are godsends. Especially the spell that nullifies all elemental damage to the party, it completely trivializes a bunch of late-game bosses.
>>335950734
http://operationrainfall.com/2016/03/03/total-control-ep-66-bravely-default-changes/
>"Now we did reach out to Nintendo- we had Benny do it- now they have yet to answer us on whether those changes that we heard about in the European version were also present in the North American version, but when I talked to a Square-Enix PR representative they told me that Nintendo is responsible for the localisation of Bravely Second."
>"They said that they were responsible for handling the game, to be exact."
>"Yes."
The only change based on player feed was the side quest alteration. Don't lie.
>>335951639
Are you sure? It's got to be around there :^)
>all asterisks in the demo use the new theme
>fight my first Eternian asterisk
>they use the old asterisk theme
My dick wasn't ready. Now if there was a way to trigger Tiz and Edea's old Special themes.
>>335951751
>square
>the most scummy company
>thinking they arent flat out lieing
You know they censored the first game too right.
>>335952603
Yeah, which just so happened to be released on a Nintendo system too. Quite a coinkydink, wouldn't you say?
How many censored releases are they regularly putting out on other platforms?
>>335952776
Square censored the first game, gets shit for it
Square censors second game, tries to pawn it off on Nintendo.
You realize that Nintendo of Europe wouldnt change a native american outfit to a cowboy outfit, right?
You realize that NoE isnt responsible for making the artbook, which was also censored, right?
You're a downright mongoloid cockslap if you actually think square wasnt the one making these changes
Who are you fooling, my little butthurt sonycrusader?
>>335943459
NO REVO? NO BUY YOU ASSHOLES.
>We can't talk about good 3DS games without Treehouse or censorship posting everywhere
We get it. You guys are ass blasted that censorship is still a thing in the West. A few sentences or a slight costume change doesn't detract from the gameplay, and you're letting your ignorance show when you let minor details stop you from basing the game on actual gameplay rather than content.
If you have a hacked 3DS, good for you.
If not then c'est la vie. You want to see Mrgrgr in a skimpy outfit then Danbooru and Exhentai are a few clicks away.
>>335953086
>Square says Nintendo made the changes
>HAHahahHAHAHAH nice try SonY We Got YOu
m8 please stop
>>335953086
My goodness, you are projecting a lot. Who brought Sony up at all?
I just gave you a source saying Nintendo was involved with the changes. What argument do you have other than saying I'm just plain lying?
>>335953219
Well if they didn't want people to talk about the changes, maybe they shouldn't have made the changes.
You reap what you sow.
By all means, talk about the game as much as you want, but you're ridiculous if you want to stifle legitimate concerns about the handling and localization of the game simply because you've heard too much complaining for your taste.
>>335953228
>>335953347
No, you gave an unreliable source trying to deflect culpability to another company, despite there being a precedent of them being responsible of censoring the first game.
They even use ambiguous phrasing that isnt quite a lie, but isnt true either. I'm sure nintendo translated the game, but square actually censored it.
Again, who are you fooling, sonypony, you yourself admitted it was Square that censored the bad endings, but you somehow think they didnt alter the costumes despite them doing it in the first game?
>>335953715
>No, you gave an unreliable source
Do you have a better source that refutes me?
>I'm sure nintendo translated the game, but square actually censored it
Do you have a single fact to back that up, other than your gut feeling?
>you yourself admitted it was Square that censored the bad endings
They admitted to making that change due to player feedback, but made no claims to making the alterations to the costumes.
You're attacking me through using ad hom, while making wild claims that you are not attempting in anyway to back up.
Salve Maker was my favorite class, how badly nerfed is the replacement if there is any?
>>335953978
There isn't real any item specialist at all in Bravely Second, it seems. Maybe just a little, but not a full class for it
>>335953978
there really isnt anything comparable to salve maker now. i suppose the closest aspects now are spellcrafting and some of the gay cake job's support abilities. you can multicast reraise in 1 BP with it so its pretty good, but not nearly as broken as salve maker
>>335943459
I really love the combat, graphics and gameplay but fuck there's way too much dialogue.
I wish they made BD like FF3 with barely any dialogue at all. All i want is phat hips and classic FF combat.
>>335943459
>Since they are clearly setting up for a third game, what are some predictions for who will be playable in Bravely Third?
Oh boy I can't wait to play the same game with the same problems in the same engine over again ;)
I think overall the writing in Bravely Second was pretty engaging, but two things that really got on my nerves were the constant puns, and gravy jokes. Were they trying to make gravy a meme?
>>335952603
>>335953086
Fuck off Nintendo shill.
>>335953557
It was obvious they did it to keep the T rating. More units get sold because younger people can buy it without parent's consent.
Square's been doing this since the NES, and the fact that everyone on /v/ only just now started throwing tantrums on a daily basis, a la Fates, means they're uninformed sheep that just want to bitch for the sake of bitching.
I've been playing the first game for a few hours now and it's been fun. The music is really fantastic especially the asterisk boss theme. I just have a question about difficulties, are the any benefits to playing on hard mode? It just seems like more of a chore than anything else.
>>335953965
Do you have an actual fact to back up your claim that isnt just a shitty company trying to save face?
Nintendo, unlike square, isnt a coward, and if they censored a game, they'll admit to it and defend why they did it.
This is nothing but square attempting to save face.
>>335954314
Go to bed sonypony, its past your bedtime and PSN is prolly down again anyway.
>>335954427
That's why Nintendo tried to pass blame for #FE censorship to Atlus USA right?
Kill yourself Treehouse employee.
>>335954427
>Do you have an actual fact to back up your claim that isnt just a shitty company trying to save face?
I gave you a source that states Nintendo was involved. You repeatedly are just telling me it's wrong, while providing nothing of substance.
>Nintendo, unlike square, isnt a coward, and if they censored a game, they'll admit to it and defend why they did it.
Nintendo has been radio silent on many of the changes they've made to their releases.
Something something censoring
Did anyone actually play the fucking game?
>>335954506
>doesn't realize the image shows SE doesn't censor "loli"
My little Nintendrone can't be this stupid
>>335954427
>calling one poster sony fanygay this whole time
>yet to provide any sort of factual source(s)
Does your mother know you're on the internet?
>>335954376
>It was obvious they did it to keep the T rating
What in the game would bump it up to an M?
Are you aware of what warrants an M?
>Square's been doing this since the NES, and the fact that everyone on /v/ only just now started throwing tantrums on a daily basis, a la Fates, means they're uninformed sheep that just want to bitch for the sake of bitching.
Nintendo, from around the 5th generation and beyond, became increasingly more lax on their censorship policies. Now, I'm not saying they stopped completely, but they weren't putting out large swaths of censored releases back to back.
Look at the catalog of censored games from Nintendo in the past 12 months. It's alarming.
Also look at the amount of censored releases from Square. Note how they're mostly on Nintendo platforms.
>>335954592
>Did anyone actually play the fucking game?
Yeah, it fucking sucks. 80% of the game is reused content. GRAVYGRAVYGRAVY
Shit game only made shittier thanks to censorship
>>335953219
/v/ never lets people live it down if they mess up. That's how it is, and that means trying to talk about censored games will result in shitposting about the censorship, because shitposters usually only know about that part of the game due to how vocal /v/ is about it when it happens.
>>335953557
I think people have the right to be annoyed at there being too many threads containing the complaints, at least. On several occasions they have filled up the front page of /v/. It's almost enough to be a /vg/ general at this point.
>>335954098
>>335954148
I thought Catmancer and that baking class were supposed to be similar to Salve but they really don't seem like it. Spellcrafting looks really cool though.
So to my understanding:
>Spell Fencer buffs got moved to Tomahawk
>Vampire reskinned to Yokai
>Conjurer integrated into Summoner (this makes a lot of sense to me desu)
Where did Spirit Master and Arcanist go?
>>335954508
But Fatlus did censor it?
They changed those panties to full pants before the game even released. Nintendo had no influence on that game's development and gave atlus carte blanche
>>335954592
It's shit. Added some minor gameplay improvements but somehow made the story and characters even worse. New music isn't great either.
>>335954791
Thanks for reminding me that /v/ has become Tumblr-tier autism about censorship.
>>335954601
potatoes arent human and as such dont need to be censored.
There is plenty of censoring in FF14 anyway.
>>335954792
Well, Vampire's "use enemy monster skills" is a catmancer thing now.
You could argue that Spirit Master and Arcanist were turned into Bishop and Wizard, but while spirit master and arcanist were basically "white and black wizard, but better", Bishop and Wizard are more like "white and black wizard, but different".
>>335954909
>There is plenty of censoring in FF14 anyway.
Wait, wait, where?
>>335953557
You can be assblasted and buttpained all you want. Just do it somewhere else instead of barging into every thread trying to talk about a game.
You're unwanted here, just like you were unwanted by your parents.
>>335954894
>>335954791
That's not a single front page, that's a series of threads pasted together by what appears to be someone who's very annoyed that others are concerned about getting content in their games butchered.
>>335954737
>>335954840
Thanks anons, i didn't want to be dissapointed but that's the feeling i got 10 minutes in while playing a friend's copy
I don't get why people talk so much about this game without ever touching one of the games
The new composer really put me off and the censoring, especially with the art book was the final straw.
When was the last time censorship occur for a video game on Nintendo hardware that reverted their censorship anyway.
>>335955038
I'm sorry we're invading your safe space.
>>335954993
First dungeon, in jap there are women being kept as sexslaves by pirates, the western version simply has vague implications that they are kept there for that reason.
There is a catgirl for the arcanis job questline that was raped by a pirate as a child, in the west version this is also removed and left to player imagination.
>>335955242
In the DS Phoenix Wright games, there was a background asset of a cooked lobster that looked like a dick. It got edited.
In the 3DS version, the lobster dick is back.
>>335955258
You're simply an obnoxious autist.
The equivalent of some downie barging into a museum yelling " I FUCKING HATE ART"
>>335943840
Maxim from Lufia 2 gets married and has a kid in the middle of the game. No excuses.
>>335955303
Oh, personally I don't mind that sort of localization so long as they give off implications and foreshadowing of what is to come rather than direct dialogues of their background. Sort of like reading between the lines which personally I find enjoyment.
>>335955501
>SQUARE DOESNT CENSOR LOL
>get proven otherwise
>LOL I DONT CARE ABOUT THAT KIND OF CENSORING.
>>335955412
The thread is literally asking why people didn't buy bravely second and he gives a legit reason why he didn't buy it and you're mad he answered the OP.
>>335955597
What? I never posted that, practically every FF title gets censorship all the way back to FF4 with Siren sprite. Fuck off.
>>335955456
Yeah but it's flat out stated they're moving back to Tiz's village to settle down finally.
Honestly it'd beunacceptable!to have them fuck up their happy end.
>>335955412
Well, you know, if this topic mattered so little, wouldn't other stop talking about it? Stop participating in discussions regarding it?
But they don't. And that's fine. We're talking about an issue with the game, which means we're still talking about the game.
You can talk about other aspects as well, and if my posts, or anyone else's posts bother you that much, there should be a little - button to the left of what I'm writing that'll just make all of this go away. It's not that difficult.
>>335955669
>The thread is literally asking why people didn't buy bravely second
No it isn't. I said I was surprised people aren't discussing it. There's nothing about buying it.
>>335955669
No, it isnt, the thread is the OP trying to start a discussion followed by assfractured autists such as yourself barging in and screaming "I AHTE THIS GAEM CUZ THEY CHANGED AN OUTFIT AND ALTERED AN ENDING"
>>335955040
I highly doubt that he was annoyed by how people were concerned about censorship. It's more likely that he was annoyed by there being too many threads per hour. I was there to witness it. They weren't contained to one thread, and even if they were, the quality of the threads was abysmal with how many shitposters there were parroting and/or copypasting the same things instead of attempting to make constructive complaints. They were more like a plague than anything.
I didn't give Nintendo money for this one.
I know the whole voting with your wallet thing seems not to be very effective, but the censorship actually annoys me for this one. It's not like the other pedophilia fear stuff in other games that Japan thinks we'll get offended by, it's a fucking native american costume entirely changed. Holy shit, no one was going to be upset by that. People would probably actually enjoy the representation in the game rather than some whitewashed cowboy bullshit. It makes ZERO sense and is the type of censorship I just don't see how got out the door in the first place.
The branching plot changes and whatnot are also pretty dumb. Americans too dumb apparently. Who is this game marketed to that they thought we wouldn't want the darker endings? Isn't Bravely supposed to be a callback to older Final Fantasy games for those of us that didn't like the Action RPG ification that all the modern RPGs have taken?
>>335956186
>It's more likely that he was annoyed by there being too many threads per hour
I've always found this to be a very odd complaint.
If people have a desire to talk about things, they'll talk about them. I mean aren't generals already considered pretty cancerous?
If you have something else you want to talk about, make a thread, and if there are people who want to talk about it, they'll talk about it.
>>335956127
>justifying those changes
It's your time and money to spend, I would rather not play it at all than justify paying retail price for a game with any cut content from the original product.
>>335955669
>I just finished it. Since they are clearly setting up for a third game, what are some predictions for who will be playable in Bravely Third?
>The thread is literally asking why didn't buy bravely second
>didn't buy bravely second
>buy
Censorfags really want to whine over the internet at any opportunity they can get.
>>335956186
That's a problem with the mods, not the board.
>>335956415
Good for you then?
Then stay out of the thread because you didnt play the game and as such have nothing of value to add to the discussion.
>>335956418
They're autists, and generally not very smart.
Boy sure can't wait for Bravely Third: Now with even MORE reused assets!
>>335956397
I don't see why people who hate that the board often spams threads about 1 topic often don't just go to Reddit or some shit, it isn't going to be the last time /v/ will be like that.
>>335956627
>Then stay out of the thread because you didnt play the game and as such have nothing of value to add to the discussion.
I'm not that guy, but I'm not seeing many attempts to create a strong conversation here other than replying to people concerned over the censorship.
If you want to add "value" to the discussion here, please, do so.
The plot may not have been the best, but I really like some of the things they tried to do.
>that part during the final boss battle where he calls the player names and tries to delete your save file
>all those tie ins to the first game, especiallythe hourglass at the end
>>335956795
>No one tries to legitimately talk about a game in a thread that was instantly shat up by buttpained autists.
Wew, shocking.
Thanks for proving my " they're not very smart" point.
>>335956627
I'm just mad as a person who loved BD getting fucked by all the design decisions, both in the original BS and the localization changes.
>>335957034
He literally gave you an excuse to talk about the game instead of talking about shitposters and you decided to shitpost, you aren't any better now.
>>335957034
So in order to ensure we can even possibly have a 'genuine' discussion about the game, we need to more sure no one complaints about it?
>>335956397
I don't know, it's not my image and I'm mostly just theorycrafting. I'd say the some generals are cancerous, but not all of them are bad. A general is only as cancerous as the people that participate in it. A anti-censorship general or something seems a lot more organized, and better suited for what anti-censorship groups might want to do.
>>335957340
An anti-censorship general would get flagged down by people terrified it was the next gamergate.
>>335956768
But Anon, Reddit is a hugbox where you don't get to see people's edgy opinions!
>>335957257
Why would someone genuinly discuss a game in a thread that was shat up from the second post onward? Are you retarded?
>>335957620
If a person is that thin skinned, I question why they would even be on /v/ in the first place.
>>335957434
Wasn't gamergate's main problem the overflooding of threads? Generals are made so that everything stays contained in one thread until the bump limit is reached.
>>335957620
By ignoring them, it's just that easy but you choose to contribute to the derailing.
>>335947081
Okay. Without mentioning censorship except in this sentence.
The combat has improved with small changes and the new classes are great but too few in numbers.
Graphics have improved which is nice.
Sidequests haven't really changed but asterisk quests have little impact on anything, even without the changes there was little actual thought or consequence as to who you pick.
Story is fucking abysmal, way too peppy and light hearted at times, awkwardly trying to be serious at others. Previous asterisk holders are just walking around and neither Tiz or Edea seem to care, like how they hust accept the Red Mage who probably molested Edea is now a university tutor and go have a casual lunch with him. The new asterisk holders are hit and miss. Main plot points like the Ba'als barely appear to instead favour a terrible plot about love.
Music is a big step down. Some decent new tracks but nothing comes close to BD's OST which excels in comparison and to which they reused a lot of tracks. Character special themes are a particular offense; it's jarring to hear Baby Bird play when Edea first appears only to never hear it again and be replaced with the weakest special theme of all. Audio quality of characters has also taken a big dip for some strange reason, a particular example is Magnolia whenever she pronounces something with an 'S' in it.
Characters are weak. Edea has been butchered into some jerk ass with obsession for food. Tiz is more or less than bland crap he was previously. Yew and Magnolia are both extremely forgettable; Yew is an inconsistent twerp and Magnolia only exists to serve as his waifu. Such a shame a great character design be wasted on someone so flat and monotone.
Overall it's a high 6 / low 7. An okay game but a big step back from what Default set up.
>wahhh, a few costumes were changed and maybe some dialogue!
I don't even like jrpgs and you faggots need to quit finding shit to nitpick. It's literally 2% of the entire game and yet, it's all you autists focus on.
I swear you guys just take any tiny flaw and over exaggerate it just so you can shitpost.
>>335958086
That's /v/'s specialty. Doesn't just apply to censorship, though.
>>335958086
My complaint is the music, that is something that can never be changed. Though the change to the Tomahawk is fucked up and racist as hell.
>Bravely Censored
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>>335943459
I like the gameplay, but I'm not keen on visiting the same damn places over and over again. Skipping Bravely Second to send a message.
>>335958086
Even the art book for the special edition got censored.
A real life book was edited.
I'm tired of Nintendo allowing watered down western releases. It's happening in abundance, and I'm sick of it. You might be willing to accept that half of the catalog of games the company puts out are censored, but I'm not going to pay for them.
By all means, spend your money if you wish, talk about the game, but it's ridiculous if you try and say a good chunk of the complaints here don't have some legitimacy.
>>335958231
Valid complaint, but music isn't an end all thing.
Are the bonus dungeons any fun?
>>335944805
Spellcraft is great
Pirate+Swordmaster still shits damage
You can get the sidequest jobs you didn't pick later
>>335948065
You don't even get yokai until basically the end of the game though. And it's not like arcanist didn't look goofy as fuck in BD either to be fair.
>>335951639
It's a spoiler but a dumb one:you literally just forgot it existed and it appears later in the game again
Why is Ringabel so based?
>>335943840
>Edea
Please die
>>335954792
Catmancer is basically blue mage. Yokai is kind of like vampire in that it can use -ja spells and its own special spells but that's it. One of SMN's later abilities is to buff i tself with summons, yes. I think skills that spirit master had got split up into astrologian and patissier, but I didn't use those classes much at all.
>>335949997
This game has the absolute worst character interactions I have ever seen in a JRPG, even tales of has better.
The lore and backstory of most things is super interesting though. I don't get how they manage to fuck up characters and dialogue but not the writing itself.
>mfw reading the amisphbaena entry
>>335943459
>Want it for the gameplay and new classes
>The story is shit
>The new characters are boring
>The voice audio is compressed to absolute hell
>Some songs were just outright ruined
>NoA censorship to the nth power
I REALLY wish the gameplay was enough for me to warrant spending $40 on this, but it really just isn't.
>>335954592
I can see how people who played the first game would be upset with the changes in second; I played second first so it didn't phase me. Regardless of that though I still really like the gameplay, so I can overlook stuff like that.
>>335956836
>boss is literallyilluminati>has New World Order attack
>>335955098
They took off this class. I was severely butthurt about it.
I'm also butthurt about the two cut characters but I think I'll live if they don't put Edea in the third game, that will probably be the final straw.
Spellcraft is awesome though.
>>335943459
>I just finished it. Since they are clearly setting up for a third game, what are some predictions for who will be playable in Bravely Third?
I doubt there'll be a third game. In spite of the first being a success, they clearly didn't have much budget for the sequel, and it performed worse, obviously. It seems like Square basically wanted to make some quick cash and then dump the series.
>>335943459
Loved the first game and didnt even mind the looping shit in it either. 2nd was just unbearable though. I got up to around the point where you got the bathhouse boat.
story, dialogue, characters, and music are just so god damn abysmal. At least I got to play with uncensored costumes, but there wasnt really anything to motivate me to continue besides the job system.
>Listened to the music without game context months in advance. Ended up liking a good deal of it and still do.
>Gameplay is still as great as ever and having fun with trying out new classes
>Story is super light but was consistently enjoyablebefore new game+
>Only went down for me after you beat the kaiser
>Asterisk stories were entertaining, only wish I could of got both without having to choose idiotic choices.
>Unironically enjoyed the characters
Recommend me some good JRPGs because I loved bravely second so I'll probably enjoy those even more.
>>335960693
stillness was pretty fucking broken, so was hasten world. which is probably why both got removed
>>335961252
On 3DS? Here's a compiled list of games to sort through. Most of the JRPGs on 3DS are good.
I can't really recommend anything on PS4 or Vita because I don't own either one right now, but if you have a PS3, Resonance of Fate is also a good choice.
>>335961698
Any system in general. No Xbone or Ps4 yet but I intend to get them when I see something that actually interests me.
On that list of games that I have but haven't played yet.
>Triforce Heroes
>Persona Q
>Etrian Odyssey IV
>Super mystery dungeon
>Rune factory 4
>Little battlers eXperience
>The Legend of Legacy
>Fire Emblem Fates
>>335962947
Persona Q is pretty fun, especially if you're a fan of P3 and P4's characters. Rune Factory is one of the best RPGs on the system. I can't say much about the others on that list. SMT IV is pretty good, too, if you don't mind a bit of a challenge.
>>335963246
I figured it would be good but I didn't know it was even on the 3ds till seeing that list.
Challenging games are more rewarding to beat anyway.
>>335961308
>remove stillness
>still keep spiritmaster class
????
>>335960693
Was pretty bummed when they removed Salvemaker
nice video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEfhUJvn5rM
>>335954592
Yes, i love it. :)
I'm digging it so far. Combat is just as addicting as the first game.
A shame some stuff was cut and the budget was cut in half, but still a fun game so far.Still 40 bucks well spent
>>335954312Maybe they're trying to facilitate the YewxJanne doujins
Do you guys have any tips for someone playing the first game? I just got to Anchiem and currently doing the sub-scenario.
>>335966287
You'll be gettingSword magicsoon. It's definitely worth using for a while.
Always keep a freelancer. Scanning enemies is really helpful.
The classes in chapter 3 are going to be your best friends. Make sure to check them out when you get there.
If you can find something that negates charm early on. use it in chapter two.
>>335943459
Let me guess, for third game it will turn out the fairy is fucking evil again.
What were Yew's and Magnolia's catchphrases in the Japanese game instead of the gravy and la vache?
So I just finished the first game, and actually skipped most of the story till the end, and then started reading the story cus I heard it was actually pretty good. What kept me going was actually the grinding.
Had a pretty wonky setup of Vamp/Monk Tiz, WM/Spirit Master Agnes, Templar/Knight Edea and Perfomer/Freelancer Ringabel. Tiz would do 9999 damage every other turn thanks to Ring, and everybody was kept more or less invincible cus of Rampart and Status/Element immunity.
Normally not too into JRPGs, but the combat in this one was really fun for me. Are there any other recommendations for these types of games? Was thinking of checking out the new Etrian Odyssey games. But wasn't sure, since I tried 2 a long time ago and couldn't really get into it as much as BD.
>>335969423
Final Fantasy 5 if you haven't played it yet. It has a very similar job system and plot.
Ringabel is most likely going to at least be important.
I hope for an all new team.
Terrible music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUTglhRydZ8
>>335970105
>First game
