waddlewaddlewaddlewaddlewaddlewaddlewaddlewaddle...
>>336334852
These guys trigger me hard.
> Temporary lower your max health so you can't finish 'em safely and quickly when in groups.
> Really fucking fast poke attack of which the animation is almost unnoticeable.
>>336334960
Their branding iron can clip through walls and hit you. I tried luring them and attack them once they go through a doorway, but they just burn me through the wall.
>>336334852
>mentally prepare myself for bullshit due to all the whining on /v/
>reach dungeon
>like 10 of them altogether in upper part, they have aggro range of a retarded blind dead sloth, have to finish long ass cry animation before you start losing your heart
>most of them you could walk up to from behind, ram a lamp post up their ass and they probably still won't notice you
Even that patrolling pack below is so retarded you could probably just walk up and dispatch them all with some huge weapon. Too bad i'm dexfag and have to pick one with arrow before coming up and killing it then retreating while all other slooooowly turn up to me and do nothing
>>336336521
> Clip through wall
Be careful when fighting those homo drakes around archdragon peak, these guys can warp a chain axe 6 meters through a fucking wall.
>>336334960
The worst part about them was that your health doesn't refill when your max health returns, so you basically can't avoid damage in that area.
>>336337414
Oh shit, I've never had that happen to me. Thanks for that, Gotta be careful even when hiding now. I hate that area with like four of those big serpents and a bunch of smaller ones. Jesus how do they expect anyone to win that. I had to cheese it by luring them out one by one with a shitty bow.
>>336337668
Luring one at a time is the standard tactic against the masses.
like mindflayers but 10x worse
>>336338603
A lot easier on an individual basis, by my reckoning, but the mindflayers never showed up in huge numbers like these do in that last chamber before the Profaned Capitol.
>going through dungeon with a sorcery character
>spook+hidden body
>can literally run right near them and they won't do shit
>only stage that's remotely easy for a sorcery character
Too bad spook and hidden body only last like 40 seconds even with the ring that extends spell buffs
>>336338991
>stuck on crystal sages as a sorcerer
kill me
I never had this much trouble with my other characters.
>>336338991
doesn't obscuring ring do the same thing?
>>336334852
FSHHHHHHHHHHHHuhuhuhu...
I can't hate these fuckers because of how cute their little run looks
With muffled "ohohoh" too
>>336339126
Go do Watchers and Wolnir (possibly Demon King) first. Makes the sage much easier to deal with when you have some more levels.
>>336338603
They are easier.
Mindflayers hit like a truck and their casting wouldn't stop. Either you had the damage or you didn't. A complete nightmare.
These jailers are easy. You knock them, bait them, long animation for his attack. It only has one gimmick to his advantage that a simple corner, in a level full of them, can beat.
>>336339126
Summon Eygon. No shame in it.
>>336343470
I have yet to see Eygon be useful against the Sages.
At best, he acts as another target for them, but that's it.
>>336336873
Get yourself a Dex greatsword, helps immensely for stuff like that.
Farron Greatsword or Old Wolf Curved Sword should do the trick
>>336343556
>At best, he acts as another target for them
That's all that it takes for him to be useful. You can focus on the real one.
Two hand your weapon, use some fire coat on it and you're done.
>>336343556
Just rush around with a fast weapon one shotting every sage clone by zig-zagging towards them. Hell, if you find the original before hurting the blues they just despawn
>tfw Aldrich won't stop spamming
>>336343750
>2 km away from Aldritch
>expecting him to stop using long range attacks
Everyone thinking this is a hard fight is probably doing the same.
>>336343750
>you can just run past the kamehameha
FUCK
Am I the only one that finds the sages unnerving, especially with their voices.
Like going in the Grand Archives to find another one.
UHMMMM HMMMMM SEFUM! MMMMMMMHHH!
Which one was the worst?
>>336343874
Winter Lantern, without question. That thing creeps me out every time.
>>336343873
It's probably the reprised creepy sounding Pinwheel music too. Underrated track.
>>336343820
Hey, when he pulls his bowstring you don't want to be near him or the fast hard hitting missiles are gonna get you
>>336343639
this, i just went fucking spinning on them. worked perfectly and they all fell down.
>>336343874
Middle > Right > Left.
Mindflayers were creepy the first time you saw them because of the atmosphere of the level, but they were never ever a threat.
>>336334852
their armor is super cute on a female character though
>>336343874
Winter Lanterns are the worst, not only do they have a grab like the Mindflayers but they also proc Frenzy which is infinitely more dangerous than the health reduction the jailers do because without sedatives it is pretty much guaranteed to proc and can kill you from a distance which the jailers can't.
>>336343374
>Hiding in the cells in the dark watching those things pass the doorway
To be fair they're really easy to sneak up on and backstab, but at first you're too scared of them and that place to want to try it.
>>336344096
Why not a male character?
When they reduced my max health, I assumed the effect would wear off and my health would come back.
When the effect wore off and I still had a sliver of health I thought to myself, "No, why would you even think they would give you your health back?"
I don't know why I thought that.
>>336334852
>waddlewaddlewaddlewaddlewaddlewaddlewaddlewaddle...
huhuhuhuh
pshhht PSHHHHHHHT
>>336344096
So they did actually drop their set and not just the hat. I got four hats, one branding iron and nothing else
>>336344175
the way the robes flow and are ruffled isn't manly
>>336344008
You do. Fighting Aldritch is all about keeping yourself close and on the offensive. Play on the defensive and you'll lose everytime. If you let the fight go on so much to the point where those arrows take so much to go away, might as well restart.
The fact those arrows become harder and harder as time passes, is a hint that you shouldn't prolong the fight. Just go and whack him as fast as you can, and he'll immediately teleport. Just repeat and you'll win in no time, he always respawn at the farthest corner form you.
>>336334852
They gave me panic attacks at the beginning but once i figured out you can literaly just run passed all of them and dodge around to get all the items and find your passage it was smooth sailing.
These screaming babyhead 4 legged spear chucking demon things scared me more.
>>336334852
How do these guys lower your health? Is it that mist stuff or is it their weapon? They're annoying the fuck out of me.
>>336344210
Drop rates are fucking horseshit in this game, and they neglected to leave 90% of the armor sets or weapons that drop from enemies on corpses because farming is literally the pinnacle of fun.
>>336343750
>that sloth tier reaction time on that roll in the end
>>336344269
lantern they holding will glowing red, then curse start to lower your HP max
>>336344238
What about when he spawns at the opposite side of the room you're on and instantly pulls out his bow? That's what kept happening to me on that try. Still beat him but RNG can fuck you over a bit
>>336344030
>Farron GS on Deacons
>>336337414
The same thing can happen with the big angel looking fuckers, especially bad with the one on top of a tower, he swings his axe straight through a wall and floor.
>>336343874
>>336340887
only works on players
>Grab itemAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
God I hated those so fucking hard, it was so loud too
>>336337668
How shit are you at this game, lamer?
Everyone in this game is a damn coward.
Is the PC playerbase that bad they need two phantoms everywhere they go?
>>336344351
He always spawns at the other side of the room, you need to start running there when he teleports. When you get there early enough he'll almost never shoot his bow or his other ranged options. You can 2 cycle him if you convince him to do melee attacks for long enough, especially if you have a fire resin. It's basically a matter of not getting greedy and going for too many hits when he starts teleporting, since that will leave you vulnerable to ranged when he spawns next.
>>336344431
shit, don't remind me anon. Shocked me for the first time, panic all over the place till I reach profaned bonfire
>>336344431
This.
Resorting to cheap jump scares for the youtube streamer audience I guess.
>>336344302
I-I was expecting him to do the six billion projectiles again. Really though. He can vary his attacks up pretty well. On the last playthrough when I got to phase 2 he never varied his attacks like that and I expected him to just use the same attack 1-3 times in a row like in phase 1. I also heard this guy has a second moveset for when you break his legs but again, died too fast for me to see it
>>336344459
>PC
It's like that on every platform the game is on, you cumstain.
>>336343874
Winter Lanterns.
Is this even a question?
>>336344351
You don't whack him and wait to see where he goes. You move to the center and start running to the farthest point in the room from there. He always spawn in fartherst corner form you. Always. Run there, and whack him again. He'll repeat the teleporting process. Move to center, repeat.
>>336344458
Pretty shit when I'm going against 6 enemies that are strong at once. Can beat most bosses without taking a hit like Lorian and Lothric.
>>336344530
I've played through this game with like 5 or 6 characters and never knew you could do this. Holy shit that's so fucking cool.
>>336344506
It actually alerts any nearby jailers to your presence
>>336334852
they only drain your hp while they're looking directly at you
im sure most people know that by now but i never would have figured it out if i wasn't told
>>336344351
You run the midway before he even start emerging
I oneshotted him because I usually play extremely aggressive. I wiped on abyssniggers for 3 hours though since I play with greatsword only
admittedly greatsword is great in aldritch
The game is so much easier when you have that ring that masks your noise. Holy shit it is easy.
>>336344431
The screams in this game...
Everytime i had to volume down or i felt would break my ear apart. Seriously, i don't need some REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE in my Soul games Miyazaki.
>>336337598
of course you can, it works on line of sight and takes a while to get going, so corners are your friends
>>336344659
I thought it was to do with the color of their lamp.
I figured red meant I was supposed to stop while green meant I could go.
His light went red and I stood there and he stared at me until I had one hit point.
>>336334852
>>336334852
Roll roll attack
>>336339126
my first character was a sorcerer. after the abyss watchers i said fuck it and respecced to a melee build. magic is seriously underpowered right now.
>>336344781
I'm glad this game doesn't have frenzy.
>>336344781
Oh fuck I'm dying.
>>336334852
dee
>>336344781
It is, if red and they looking at you, curse will start to affect you
>>336344781
>I figured red meant I was supposed to stop while green meant I could go.
Thanks for the laugh anon.
>>336344861
>>336344861
What does it do?
>>336344781
you're not wrong actually, as funny as this sounds, but once they aggro it won't become green again unless you run away
>>336344825
throw in some faith and use pyromancy, works really great in pve.
>>336344905
Oh fuck, now i'm in Soul of Cinder and that information won't be useful for my nextFaithrun.
>>336344949
Turns your brain to mush, remotely.
>>336334852
I fucking love the sound design in this game, anyone else noticed how good it is? The jangling chains and creaking floorboards of Undead Settlement were great, but these jailers are a favourite.
The way they introduce the first one by you hearing the loud steps they make first and then a light coming around the corner is fantastic.
>>336344949
Imagine if Bleed could proc based on line of sight and even seeing something for a second would continue to fill the bleed meter for several seconds afterward unless you had red moss on you.
>>336344782
That looks a lot like the hunter mark from Bloodborne.
>>336344741
It was worse in my case
>See item
>"listen carefully..." message
>"These two things means this must be a trap and there's an enemy nearby"
>Turn up volume to see if I can hear breathing from an enemy that will come for me as soon as I grab the item
>Can't find shit, decide to grab it anyway
>Scream with volume up
The worst part is that I didn't notice the one who did the scream was the corpse as it does a little animation, so I spend a good amount of time mortified because there was something somewhere coming for me and I couldn't see it
I hope they patch that shit out, because it's the most cheap, annoying and stupid way to fuck with a player, not even as "gameplay" but just as a dick move
>>336344008
TOUCH FLUFFY TAIL!!!
>>336344506
the scream works just like the scream of the guys with the lantern on the high wall, it wakes up enemies close to them.
>>336344623
underage pls
>>336345120
I'm sure that's where they got it from.
>>336345120
I wish you'd say something aboutbrand loyalty.
>>336345231
Okay
>>336344530
Stray demon was x100 a better boss than Yhorm and Wyvern, why didn't they give him more HP and boss music and boss fog.
the way they laugh when they chase you is reallycute
>>336345120
>>336345249
My braaaaand.
>>336345185
>>336344008
>touching this aberration
NOT CUTE
I REPEAT
NOT CUTE
>>336344206
nuthin personell kid.... *drains half ur HP bar*
I hate how the curse makes you slower
>>336345228
There is no reason for it to be that loud.
>>336345262
Because if he had a boss health bar and boss music people would meme about having a boss fight ripped straight out of DaS.
>>336345262
Because they aren't a major player. Look at their King, worthless.
>>336344431
Screamers should be random in that area, 20% of every loot corpse to scream randomly every playthrough.
>>336344547
Nope, on PS4 Ive seen maybe a handful of hosts with more than one phantom.
On PC every single invasion it's a 3v1 or 4v1, also the level ranges are fucked because PCucks grind out the ass and level beyond the area range because they cant deal without their stat crutch.
Also see much less dark sword/estoc/whatever some youtuber said was op on PS4, whereas on PC thats all you see.
There's a pretty huge discrepancy in the quality of players between PC and PS4 and looking at the majority of Souls threads here it's easy to see why PC has lower quality players.
Call it platform wars if you want but it's hard to deny.
>>336345483
I played the ps4 and PC versions and you're full of shit. It's the exact same bullshit in every version of the game, community has gone to shit.
>>336336873
>find the area by myself without spoilers
>put my summon sign down so I can get a good layout/idea of where I'm going
>when I get summoned the host has no fucking clue whats going on either and is just as freaked out by the atmosphere
>we fight through the whole place, host manages to eacape and desummons .e shortly after
>return home and bassically speedrun the dungeoun and finish it in >3 minutes
All in all I'd say its a pretty easy area tbqh famlee
>>336344530
Stray Demon walked off the bridge before he even noticed me. I turned around to check the other side of the bridge when I suddenly got a "Soul of a Stray Demon"
>>336345483
To be fair though, PC only players aren't used to no poise and super fast BB style enemies.
I see a lot of ppl saying DS3 was the hardest when it was the easiest souls game on my first run by far.
>>336345720
3 probably is the hardest if you try playing as a sorcerer/cleric/heavy hitter.
>>336345651
>tfw stray demon throws you so hard against the wall that you clip through it and fall to your death
>>336345720
it's more that slow weapons are so fucking SHIT that if you try to use one you will get demolished even in PvE
>>336345890
>>336345979
I played with a heavy claymore on my first run and besides getting stunlocked by dogs and rats, nothing seemed like a big deal.
And that's not UGS slow but it wasn't an R1 mashing weapon either.
Half the bosses were easy as fuck and had dumb gimmicks that 1 shot them.
Really wasn't impressed after how hard vanilla BB was at the start.
>>336346104
>Half the bosses were easy as fuck and had dumb gimmicks that 1 shot them.
What?
>>336343874
you know, if the Jailers, or just some of them, would suddenly turn into winter lanterns and charge at you, I would probably have shat myself in the dungeon.
>>336345979
Using the greatsword in pve ia actually pretty fun, but you just get givbed in pvp because a roll is a lot faster than the full greatsword animation.
>>336343874
>>336337414
Those fuckers are literally the only possible way anyone can die to Ancient Wyvern.
>>336346348
You can also fall through the boss' head sometimes.
*loud neigh*
>>336346412
I've died the most to ancient wyvern than any other boss in this game due to this.
>>336337668
>>336337414
>>336345576
>put my summon sign down so I can get a good layout/idea of where I'm going
you disgust me senpai
>>336346171
Yhorm, the tree, Wolnir all were just silly "attack the weakpoint for massive dasmage" puzzles.
Deacons was a rat vanguard reskin with an easymode light to show you the right one.
Vyvern id not even a boss, just level hazzard that you one shot. Were the 20 developer messages saying "try plunge" really needed in a fucking secret optional are? What a joke.
The bosses only got decent at Lothric Castle and the end of the dragon area with Nameless King.
So far the weakest line up of bosses in a souls games besides DeS.
>>336346507
>they don't drop your weapon
Why you always gotta disappoint FROM?
>>336334852
first playthrough as a pyro these guys were jokes
>>336346590
Nah, no way. DS3's bosses are generally pretty good, even if it has some gimmick bosses - at least the gimmicks work and aren't intrusive. Compare that to DS1 (where gimmick bosses are plain fucking awful and the rest of the bosses can be beaten by doing the exact same thing for all of them) or DS2 (where a ton of the bosses are basically regular enemies).
>>336346507
Is it just me or did Archdragon Peak feel kind of unfinished or rushed compared to the other areas?
HOL UP
let me introduce you my kukris and my faggy spin
>>336346739
All enemies in the game clip through walls pretty badly, something's up with the collision. Archdragon Peak's enemies just have a bunch of attacks (not just the axe but also the neck extending bite) that showcase it a lot
>>336346590
I just ran back through the Wyvern arena looking for items and I'm surprised how many developer messages they put in, like it isn't painfully obvious what to do. You keep running because there isn't an opening and there are snakemen all over the place, then you get to the end and see that the dragon is directly below you.
>>336345305
I want to marry this aberration and make lots of quarter dragon babies.
>it's another souIs thread
>>336346776
these guys are incredibly easy, even more so if you use any sort of maze
blessed drang bongo sticks made catacombs a breeze
>>336345979
>>336345890
This. Even PvE is a drastically different experience based on your build, much more so than the previous souls games. Magic doesn't scale correctly until absurdly high levels, and a lot of weapons just don't have the stamina/AR/speed to punish bosses reliably. It's not to say they aren't viable, but the difference is night and day when you compare those factors to stuff like Straight Sword; they're a complete package, whereas other weapons have obvious shortcomings. This also explains why some players have problems with certain bosses, but have no trouble with others, and someone else has the complete opposite experience.
>>336346104
The Claymore may be heavily nerfed from its DaS I days, but it's still a modest weapon in its own right. It still has decent range, scaling, and speed, it just took a hit in stamina usage and moveset. I used it on my second playthrough, and had next to no issues with it as well. At least moreso than my first playthrough with the Brigand Axe, but I'd say the Claymore is somewhat a cut-off point, where any weapon worse than it starts running into some hindrances and spikes in difficulty.
>>336346776
WE WUZ HIGH LORDS AND SHIEEET
>>336346828
This is a problem that's been present for the entire series that FROM hasn't fixed (even though the player has been unable to attack through walls the entire time.) They aren't confident in their AI's ability to not spam attack against the wall, which I can't say I blame them for, but their continued technical inadequacy is something they should catch a lot more shit for than they currently do.
>>336346590
yeh, i was fucking shocked at the amount of dev messages there, if they really had to they should have done one at most.
felt like every orner ther was a msg telling you waht to do
>>336346884
Baby bitch tears time again, pal?
Filter and hide.
>>336346935
i don't think i've ever noticed it as much as in das3, where it actually seems to hit through very thick walls a lot
hitting through small fences and edges and such always happens, but in das3 you get them actually doing big attacks while completely out of sight
>>336346435
>>336346696
Nah, they were shit.
Gimmicks in bosses does not mean they have to get 1 shot by the gimmick.
The storm ruler should have just worked once to brake Yhorm's armor and make him be able to take normal damage.
Just like with Seath and his crystal in DS1.
As it stands, he's not even a real boss, same for Wolnir getting 3 shot by his bracelets.
With the Tree at least it's hard to find and hit all his eggs and you can at least attack his arm, and he's earlier on so a gimmick boss is more acceptable.
But equipping a sword and pressing left trigger, right trigger 5 times? What is this CoD?
Anyone else find their waddling cute?
>>336347026
It's because there are more enemies this time around with huge range on their attacks. The chainaxe wielders (and snakemen in general) in the peak can hit you from miles away so they will go for those hits even if you're behind a wall.
>>336347093
holy shit, fucking A
>>336343750
If he starts his arrows, just get behind him. Whey the fuck would you bother wasting time juking them out right in front of him?
>>336344751
>>336337598
Coupling with this, you can just use Spook so they can't hear you running.
>>336347093
this is the final boss of the DLC
>>336347139
Those deacon motherfuckers remind me of Tonberries.
>>336345262
Call back to having that same fight in Shrine of Storms in Demons Souls.
>>336347139
Are they women? Their laugh sounds feminine.
>>336347093
>>336347093
I'm afraid, but I like it.
>>336334852
>smoldering iron doesn't actually prevent estus healing like it says it does
now my jailer cosplay build is just GARBAGE
>>336347116
If the gimmick is bad, what matters is that the boss is a pain because of it or not
I'll take a game full of Wolnirs any day over one more fucking Bed of Chaos, and overall the bosses were much more consistently good than in 1 or 2, even if some were misses
>>336347116
>Wolnir getting 3 shot by his bracelets.
but you have to hit them a bunch of times to break them what the fuck
>>336347327
they are women, yeah, like almost all cultists in the game (except the deacons)
>>336347404
Nope, DS2's bosses were better. Sadly.
Hoping the DLC isn't full of more gimmick garbage bosses.
I just wish you could discuss the bosses without having 50 anons jump in about how easy they found that boss, you must just shit lol every single time.
>>336345320
Go to bed grandpa
>>336347531
Jailer doujins when?
>>336347294
A shit fight where you can't even take damage if you stay in the house.
Some "boss" fight, no wonder people say DeS is shit.
>>336347538
Jesus
>>336347176
Stage 2 Arrow Rain tracks the player
>>336347538
>>336347116
i dont get why you consider a boss having a "weak point" a gimmick
the only truly gimmicky bosses are the wyvern (which i thought was great anyway) and yhorm
>>336347614
I wasnt talking about the Steve Irwin boss, I was talking about you fight stray demon in the first stage of Shrine of Storms and how there isn't a boss fog there either, yet you still get a Demons soulnfrom defeating it.
>>336347176
Fight the boss more than once before giving out shit tier advice like this, faggot. You have no idea what you are talking about.
>>336347538
How can someone possibly be this delusional?
>>336347467
Yes but breaking them is all there is to the fight instead of them just bringing him to 50% HP and him going in phase 2.
Huge waste really.
>>336347681
Some BB bosses had a weakpoint that you could usually break once for 30% of their HP.
But you still had to do the rest normally, it was still a fight.
>>336347538
Pray, tell, which ds2 bosses did you like? There were some good ones, I'll freely admit that, but I'm curious as to what your tastes are.
>>336347897
Several BB bosses had multiple limbs that you could guardbreak them with and get a free combo for large chunks of their HP. Is that different?
>>336347538
DS2 has a few good bosses, but also a fuckton of really bad ones, same for DS1
just in hit/miss ratio DS3 does better than 1 and 2 with ease
>>336334852
What's worse? Jailors or Frenzy Women from Bloodborne?
Honestly the thing i hate the most about them is their "grab attack"
I could say that it's because it's very fast or ends up in death most of the time
But in reality it's because these things, while being frail looking dudes that can't even walk properly, can manage to just poke you with their stick and suddendly smash you facefirst into the ground keeping you there until you're dead
Other enemies at least make some effort in their grab attacks to look convincing
>>336347897
why do you think having to hit a certain part of a boss is somehow less valuable than being able to hit them anywhere any time?
i think your logic is really flawed here
te only boss i would consider really horrible is wolnir, the deacons are way too easy but at least they aren't annoying to fight
the tree is arguably bad too because of how tedious it can be, but i enjoyed it regardless
>>336348001
Those took a lot more hits before they broke and they only gave you a damage bonus to that limb, not have the boss suddenly lose 40% HP.
>>336343750
He won't fire his arrows if you're within melee range. Put some headphones on and run to the middle of the room whenever he sinks into the ooze, you'll hear him teleport back in a second or two before he actually pops back up. Makes all the difference. Closing the gap so he doesn't use his ranged attacks is pretty much his whole gimmick.
>>336348153
>Other enemies at least make some effort in their grab attacks to look convincing
Like the unarmed Ghru guys with their lack of windup on whatever they do?
>>336348232
They were literally free damage, easily 20-30% of the boss' health bar. More if you were using paper, blood pellets, etc.
>>336344741
Enemies seem to REEEEEEEEE more often in this game.
Past game just had them go "raaar!" upon dying but now it's full on tendie tantrums all day everyday.
>>336343750
Speaking of Aldritch. Is it normal for it to sometimes keep spamming that magic deathray? I can dodge 3 or 4 but it keeps going until i'm dead.
>>336348268
It's convincing because they are some kind of goat beast that climbs on your head and claws your face
The lack of windup on that is bad yes, but their jump attack was more annoying really
>>336334852
>Started NG+
>Breezing through everything
>Get to Dungeon
>Hehe fuck these mindflayers I'm gonna fuck them up
>Charge in on one of them without paying attention to parry since I have like VIG 25
>Mindflayer hits me with his stick
>Fall to the ground
>He immediately sets in that burn attack
>Can't even react because I'm still staggered
>I am kill
Fuckin hell that burn attack basically took away all of my HP on VIG 25 and I was embered as well since I just downed Pontiff. I learned my lesson after that.
>>336348008
DS2 has some weak bosses that should be bosses like the congregation and Jabba, but they don't get 1 shot or 3 shot like some of DS3's gimmick bosses.
Also there's no 20 dev messages telling you what to do on any boss in DS2.
Besides Nashandra, DS2's endgame bosses and DLC bosses shits all over everything up to Lothric Castle, minus the Dancer and Namless king.
>>336348508
Their jump hyper armor is fucking ridiculous
>Frost status added to the game
>only 4 weapons actually inflict it
>no frost spells
>no frost infusion
>no frozen pine resin
>no frostbite ring
>>336348487
That can happen. He isn't a very well made boss. They made the Nameless King on his big bird look as if he's actually trying to hit you, but Aldritch is just doing his thing, flailing about.
>>336348349
Really depends on levels and weapon upgrades, in BB you start doing absurd damage, almost stunlocking bosses if you're 5-10 levels above what they balanced the area for.
>>336348553
>DLC bosses
DLC bosses are good in any game, not really a fair comparison, and even then you have the fucking graverobbers for no reason there
>>336348641
>No Frost infusion
That was so disappointing
As it was the lack of non-scaling lightning infusion
>want to do a faith build
>can't get lightning infusion before anor londo
Why?
>>336348714
>dude havel lmao
>>336346514
I always did this in my first playthroughs. Get to a new area and slap my sign down. Then i'd go through it soloand then summon for the boss
>>336348714
The optional DLC bosses are just made for COOP or masochists, of course they're bullshit.
And even if you're alone those 3 are easy to split up.
>>336348553
>but they don't get 1 shot or 3 shot like some of DS3's gimmick bosses.
don't even need a gimmick for that
>>336348714
Funny thing is, the ganksquad was easier than most 1v1 npc encounters since they had no poise and just hyperarmor
You could stunlock the havel one with an estocjust like in das3
>>336348857
>>336348908
I'm not saying they're hard, I'm saying "3 default NPCs with a boss health bar" is a fucking shit boss
>>336348850
>>336347093
What the fuck is that horse?
>>336348990
see >>336346435
Eleum Loyce DS2 DLC
>>336348946
Well i wasn't saying they weren't a shit boss either, 'cause they totally were
But if they had normal poise it would have been 10x worse
>>336348880
Wait, I must be missing something.
How can you 1 shot this guy?
>>336348946
Any NPC with a boss health bar is a shit boss.
Same goes for when the healthbar has no purpose, like Wyvern and arguably Wolnir.
>>336349092
try throwing three lightning spears
>>336344781
>anon after playing too much truck simulator
![[Raucous Laughter].gif](https://i.imgur.com/crwEh3l.gif "[Raucous Laughter].gif")
>>336348641
>No cold flame pyromancy
>No light and dark soul spears from transposing Aldrich/2prince's souls
>No ice breath pyromancy from Vordt's soul
>No dark mist miracle from Skeleking's soul
>No wind pulse sorcery from Nameless' soul
>>336334852
I actually find them adorable with their cute little laugh and foot steps
>>336349058
Ah shit, thanks. I didn't play that DLC.
>>336348487
I've had that happen to me once as well. Just dodgeroll forward in a zigzag pattern. If you keep dodgerolling left and right you don't tighten the distance so occasionally he does a deathbolt spam.
>>336348643
I wouldn't say it's bad mechanics, you're just being punished for being a pussyass faggot.
>>336349146
>ice pyromancy
>>336344459
Stop invading
>>336348553
again, the only bosses that are killed extremely quickly with their gimmicks are wyvern and yhorm
the other """"gimmicky"""" fights are just normal length fights with weak points, which isn't really gimmicky so much as just a mechanic beyond slap and roll
>>336349128
Lightning spears trivialized the game so much that DSP managed to beat it
It's not like they specifically coded the boss to die to lightning spears, even if it would have made sense lore wise
>>336349190
Cold is simply the absence of heat, so a Cold Pyromancy would simply be you absorbing the surrounding heat yourself.
>>336349249
>It's not like they specifically coded the boss to die to lightning spears
yes they did, he's specifically extremely weak to lightning
>>336349249
Speaking of this, I have a question.
Why did From release an easy-mode version of this game for streamers to play early?
What was the point in wimping out the game for them?
>>336349249
>>336349128
Those were nerfed a week after launch.
It's unlikely you can still do that without putting everything in faith and basically having no HP and stamina.
>>336349331
Scared that they'd toss out negative reviews for being too hard? No idea
>>336343874
bloodborne faggots god you need to equip runes for those faggots.
>>336349128
>1
>3
hmmmm
>>336349357
even without lightning you can still three or four shot the boss pretty easily, he has incredibly little health
>>336349434
>don't get 1 shot or 3 shot >>336348553
stop running around with goalposts, retard
also here
>>336349396
No, Shrine of Almana was way harder at launch.
Lightning spears were just OP since every copy of the spell gave you 10.
They now give you 3 so you need a ton of atunement to have 30 of them like some did at launch.
>>336349285
I do see your point, but i'd be inclined to think of that as a massive weak point, since those withouth lightning spears could do the boss just fine
Trying the wyvern and yhorm withouth the gimmick is doable, but you can clearly see that they did not want you to do that
Wolnir is even more doable but it's hard to not destroy the bracelets at some point
>>336343556
Just try a bandit knife against sages . doesnt cause much stamina and if you dont deal any dmg anyway the bleed might make a difference
>>336343352
>mfw doing watchers before the cathedral
>mfw farron funsword against deacons
RIP AND TEAR!!!!
RIP AND TEAR YOUR GUTS!!!!
>>336345305
The only word you got right is Cute. Which she is.
>>336346856
It's also funny how you can run through the manserpents and kite them to the bridge where they all get toasted by the wyverns flames while you are free to climb up to the scaffolding and plunge.
If Kalameet was a DS3 boss, you'd have Gough shoot him and then you'd suddenly get 60,000 souls and his soul item.
>>336349549
you can do the wyvern completely fine without the plunge attack, his tail takes a larger amount of damage
but yes, they absolutely should've been a little more doable without the gimmick, wyvern shouldn't have had the messages and yhorm's sword shouldn't be lying in the boss room but with siegward or something
>>336349701
I'm still mad about Kalameet's tail.
>>336349697
I wasn't aware there was another way to do that fight honestly.
>>336349701
if Soul of Cinder was a DS1 boss you'd be able to parry him easily until death
>>336344782
Wrong sign.
>>336349817
DS3 parries are way harder to pull off though, it wouldn't change much.
>>336349817
>tfw can't parry soul of cinder
they should've let you in the second phase as a throwback
>can't see summon signs anymore
Is there any way to check if you're banned?
>>336349973
This.
>>336346776
>fling a chaos bed vestige at one hoping to get the first hit
>he whips around, jumps over the fireball and coldsteels me for 60% of my health
>quicksteps out my stunlock combo and starts swatting at thin air
>oh wait he's throwing fucking kukris
>breaks my lock-on while closing in on me through sheer force of will
>have to run all the way back through demon ruins to the giant ballistafor the fourth time
I swear to god the ones up in the open area are 5x harder than the ones you fight in the cramped tombs
>>336349807
Kek, I was killing all the manserpents myself in NG being the good boy that I am.
>>336349682
>having issue with deacons
Here's a helpful hint: use Alluring Skulls.
>>336349973
you can parry the gwyn phase. just harder with a medium shield.
>>336339126
Farron dart is a sorcerers best friend in this fight
>>336350001
are you embered
>>336337414
That's the first thing I thought of when he said clip through walls
>>336349973
The Gwyn's moveset and piano keys weren't enough of a throwback?
The fact that you couldn't parry him showed a bit how hard Gwyn could have been
>>336349889
Still wrong.
>>336334852
HEYgot any grapes?
>>336350074
Yes.
>>336339126
I used the Estoc on my mage build, Sage got fucking rekt.
>>336350034
>implying I was having issues
Easiest boss in the game.
It's more that the farron greatsword makes it REALLY fucking fun.
>>336350082
Gwyn is ridiculously easy even without parrying, though
He gets completely confused like a senile old man by the pillars
>>336334852
http://youtube.com/watch?v=p-Unj8hdRDQ
when you get spotted they walk towards you like they are triggered
>>336350082
>implying anyone parried Gwyn on their first run
Praise those stalagmites he got stuck on.
>>336339126
I went full INT and beat Dancer at SL20 and Oceiros at level 40. Quit crying
