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Ludyx Gundyr doesn't drop a soul. Champion Gundyr takes place in the past (The reason Ludyx doesn't drop his soul is you took it). He chose not to link the fire, didn't become a lord, and took control of Firelink. The Black Knights followed him and killed everyone besides the maiden at the shrine. He took the bonfire coiled sword and killed the firekeeper with it by plunging it through her chest.

Then some time passed. This is where shit gets tricky. If you don't arrive at the dark firelink then another unkindled finds the firekeeper, takes the coiled sword, and kills Champion by thrusting the sword through his heart. Then this unkindled goes on to link the flame and is one of the souls you fight in the Soul of Cinders boss fight.

Now you, when you start a new game, find the "dead" Gundyr but he's corrupted by abyss shit. This means that the unkindled that killed Gundyr had to have traveled to the abyss and his path through the world can be tracked by abyss corrupted enemies. It is not clear who this is since there is no Atorias or Manus phase in Soul of Cinder battle. Probably somebody new.

Now if you do go to dark firelink you find the coiled sword, you fight champion and beat him but do not kill him with the coiled sword and don't corrupt him with abyss, and you also find the firekeepers eyes. This leads down the age of dark ending which means you take the place of the unkindled that would have linked the flame and instead bring about darkness.

This all becomes very confusing because time is fluid around the land and you can cross into the future, and past at will. If you kill Champion then technically you shouldn't have found Ludyx at the beginning of the game but since time is weird and the normal firelink is clearly accessible to npcs in the world it's not an illusion like the hunters dream. Instead the theory is that dark firelink is being held as a point in time on purpose like a bubble, probably by Darkseeker Kaathe so you can bring about the dark.
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>>335708236
Shit lore.
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thought that was solid snake from the thumbnail LOL
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>>335708236
>(The reason Ludyx doesn't drop his soul is you took it)
If you took his soul from the champ fight then why is he alive during the Iudex fight?

If champ is in the past then why is the coiled sword there only a fragment that says it was already used?

>This is where shit gets tricky

Translation: this is where you make things up and insert events that never happened.

There is only one functional coiled sword and it is the one you take out of Iudex to use in the regular firelink shrine. The Dark Firelink Shrine is all posthoumous.

The reason champ has his soul is because you never took it from his body in the first place, just dark goop souls. The reason he's impaled is because the "unknown warrior" his armor mentions is the same one that drags your corpse in the intro cinematic and who impales him with the Firelink Greatsword.

It's all one big circle and it's not confusing at all, you just mixed up the gundyrs.
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Iudex Gundyr isn't real, like the rest of Firelink shrine
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>>335708236
>Ludyx

The amount of retardation you managed to cramp into the first word is amazing. Blows my mind how you expect to figure out any lore with that reading comprehension, let alone the absolute lack of any knowledge of latin.
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holy shit please don't let this be the lore thread
i'm not even a lorefag but OP's post is just cringe-inducing
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After we kill Champion gundyr, we can buy the artorias armor from the handmaiden. WE ARE GOING TO FIGHT ARTORIAS AGAIN IN THE DLC M8S.
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>Ludex

it's Iudex. The amount of retards I see making this mistake is ridiculous
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>>335708236
Firelink Shrine exists in a separate time and place, its not the past, its just somewhere else. Other characters can access it so you are not some kind of unique existence that can travel in time, you are unkindled, a piece of shit whos worth is less than bone dogs shit. Anyone can travel to FS with a bonfire, you are making your assumptions way too difficult, its quite a simple matter.
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>>335708236
nice headcanon faggot
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