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How do I not fail catastrophically when building my first PC?
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How do I not fail catastrophically when building my first PC?
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>>335703231
Don't waste money on, case, overclockable cpu/mobo, pour money into the most expensive gpu you can afford, then cpu, then psu that meets the power requirements and has dual 12v rails.

Don't fall for the overclocking meme it is a waste of money, same with led case lights/fans.
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>>335703231
Get a "k" series intel CPU and a "Z" chipset motherboard so you can overclock, don't fail for the locked CPU meme.
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>>335703231
Overclocking can lead to some pretty decent performance, not sure what you're talking about. Not to mention the price difference is negligible barring the aftermarket cooler (which you should be fucking getting anyway).

As for the actual assembly, there's tons of tutorial videos on youtube, and all of your parts come with manuals. Make sure you read which DIMM slots you're using for what configuration of RAM you've bought. Aside from thermal paste application (sometimes shit comes preapplied anyway) the rest of it is pretty much easy.
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Newegg combo deals

Discharging on a plugged-in PSU screw before touching anything.
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>>335703231
>>335703491
That anon is wrong, psu is most important dont skimp on it, plus its a great investment the main thing you wont ever need toupgrade until it breaks.
If you get a shit psu it has a high risk of electrical discharge and possibly frying your components.

Dont put too much money into a gpu in your first build too. If you aee skimping on your CPU you will most likely bottleneck if you go ott into the best gpu you can get for your price.
Unless you have a massive amount of money to waste, best to buy a top gold rated psu then a modest mid-high range CPU and mobo, then spend what you can on your gpu.
I say this because gpu's are the main thing that drop in price dramatically. A year later after your build your gpu will be obsolete and you will be able to get the one you want
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>>335704114
>muh overclocking
Most games are GPU intensive.. like 99% of them. "2500" CPUs are still on par with most AMD products, and they're like 4 gens behind. Everything after that is even better.
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>>335703231
Have an iq of 60 or higher.
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>>335704239
This is bullshit. Intel CPUs are the only requirement for decent gaming, basically no matter what chip it is.
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>>335704239
>don't spend the extra money on a better gpu
>spend it on an extra 200w you'll never ever use even with Crossfire or SLI
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>>335704278
There are a great deal of games out there that benefit from strong single core performance, or are CPU bottlenecked. These are vastly improved by being able to overclock.

Again, the price difference between a k and non k CPU are fucking NOTHING. There's literally no reason not to overclock.
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>>335703231
FX8350, gigabyte ud3p, 8 or 16GB RAM, R9 390, Seasonic G or EVGA G2, Corsair 200R.

Add a 250GB SSD and a 2TB HDD and youre good.
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>>335704278
if you want to emulate anything, then you'll want a decent processor though

but op, don't bother with an i7, an i5 will do just fine. unless you want to spend the extra money on hyperthreading almost none of your games or emulators will use
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>>335704506
not necessarily wattage but buying a non horrible brand
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>>335704506
This.

THat guy is a dumbass. Get a good quality dual 12v rail PSU that covers your power range. People are damn idiots especially spergs like >>335704239

First post was good advice.
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>>335703231
Like other anons are basically saying, research is the most important part, make sure all your shit is compatible and will fit in your case

Rest is just making sure you can handle your expensive CPU and GPU properly since they will cost the most money and are arguably the more fragile pieces. It's like Legos otherwise, don't be afraid to put some major pressure when trying to socket some things (as long as you're 100% sure that part is supposed to go there)

Mine is actually a few months overdue for a cleaning on the inside been half a year since I last did it
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wait until black friday
never buy any pc components unless theres a huge sale
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>>335704646
>FX8350
why the fuck would you bother unless you're using multiple cards

>>335704705
fine, that's fair. but really the most important thing is if he's got the 80+ Gold certification on his PSU

>>335704717
and yes, this too. make sure it's at LEAST dual-rail
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>>335704239
this, psu is the most important component and can be reused from build to build so don't worry about spending more for it as it will pay for itself over builds
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put it together with a good website that lets you customize with compatible options and builds it for you

self builds from base components are almost pointless unless you are doing some crazy high end water cooling shit and its a passionate hobby for you. if you have a hookup and can get everything at wholesale then sure, thats worth too.
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>>335704506
>Good Power supply=Large power supply
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>>335704835
>>FX8350
>why the fuck would you bother unless you're using multiple cards
Because the FX8350 is a pretty good cpu for the money and plays everything just fine.
But you could also save 30$, get a FX8320e and overclock it.
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>>335704941
also make sure your psu is fully modular
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>>335704717
>bottle neck my GPU and let my cheap psu fry my compy
You're a retard.

>>335703231
You've come to the wrong place for this. You have people here giving the REALLY bad and stupid advice only /v/ tards can give. Youre better off going to r/buildapc on reddit. People thereally are not going to try to fuck you over, and they actually now what they're talking about. The board full of spam, sad bait, console wars bullshit, falseflagging, and stupid memes is not the right place to ask this kind of question.
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>>335704717
Seconded. I know a ton of people with 700-800+ psu's and its dumb. 550 is enough for any single card build, get a 620 for overhead. You'll be find.

The brand matters more than the actual wattage when it comes to psu
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>>335703231
Wear a wool sweater and give every component a big hug to let it know you love it.
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>>335703231
CPU i5 non k
MOBO bare minimum that you need dont spend on something with overclock or gaming words attached to it. cheap boards are fine from asus.
GPU donot fall for sli/xfire meme buy the best single GPU you can afford, pour most money into this
CASE cheapest that you like SAVE MONEY HERE
RAM cheapest low profile
PSU dual 12V rails 600-650W

AMD or Nvidia GPUs are fine

DONOT buy an AMD CPU, you will fucking regret it

Most games are optimized for skylake and DDR4 first now so consider that if you buy games before they are patched.
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>>335705005
it's really not though
basically every intel i5 or i7 chip past 2012 blows it out of the water
hell even some i3s if you fuck with them

it's great if you're using multiple gpus because the framerates are basically the same anyway on anything with an FX8350 or better

beyond that, though, there is literally no reason to get an AMD CPU

and while i'm on team green, the newer AMD gpus are fucking fantastically priced

>>335705042
modular is kind of a meme though
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>>335704239
Worst advice.

GPU should be what you spend the most on.
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>>335705303
This, in terms of price high to low it should be GPU, CPU, PSU. The rest is where you figure out your remaining budget.
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>>335705005
AMD CPUs are fucking disgusting. A $50 i3 beats their top stuff.
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>>335704646
>>335705005
A 2500 has 14% higher performance than an 8350 -- better everything throughout the 4 cores the intel cpu has.
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>>335703231
Get a cheap filing crate and some zipties for your parts. Dont fall for the PC case meme
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>>335705158
>bare minimum with overclocking
still looking at spending about at least $90 usd

>don't dual-gpu
if you can get a second card down the road for chip, then you're golden. i picked up a second GTX 770 for about $225 or so

>cheap case
well, yes, but you want it to have room in the back so you can thread your cables through the case as neatly as possible

>cheapest ram
at least get something with a heatsink

>psu
i'd recommend 700w tbch

>amd or nvidia are fine gpuwise
so long as you're buying a new-gen card

>skylake
literal meme. skylake barely provides any gains over last gen
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>>335705520
kek
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>>335705520
>for saving $25
>only if you already have zip ties and a crate
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>>335705457
And costs $110 more...
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>>335705539
used 770s are like $140
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>>335705539
>picked up a second GTX 770

you could have sold your 770 and upgrades you dimwit.

>i'd recommend 700w tbch

You are throwing money away your GPU only needs a 500W

Skylake is optimised in the software and the mobo with DDR4 is future proof.

Again /v/tards are everywhere, never listen to idiots like this.
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>>335705303
Yea pretty much this.

Spend the most on gpu. Having a good cpu is important because so many fucking ports put more load on the cpu, but a gpu is going to make out break the performance.

Also make sure you get a roomy case, it's just easier to work in and less stressful for the first build.
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>>335704378
>Intel CPUs are the only requirement for decent gaming,
Do you even pc game
Play battlefield 3 on a Intel pentium III
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>>335705863
I love mAtx cases that have the horizontal setup, wire management is a breeze and no strain on the mobo or GPU.
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>>335703231
Intel CPU + Nvidia GPU.
Make sure your PSU is not shit, and that it can power up your entire system efficiently.
8GB RAM, minimum.
Windows 7 Ultimate x64.
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>>335704646
>Corsair 200R.

Never ever listen to this anyone.
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>>335705104
Literal strawman tier dumbass here who would have you buy a 1000W PSU for 800 bucks and wait 10 years to save up for other components.
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>>335703231
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC
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>>335705303
>>335705416
>>335705863
Psu is the most important thing in a pc, if you skimp on a psu, and say for instance have a powercut or a fuse blow, your shitty $29 psu could blow every one of your components in the pc, including the $1000 gpu you bought.
Where if you spend $200 on a gold rated psu (you wont need to spend that much) you will be buying a component that will insure your electrical volts are secure and be able to use it in all your future builds.
You will be swapping to upgrade all the other components other than the psu.
Its the number 1 thing.

Of course if you are going to build a gaming pc, you ideally need a CPU and gpu that will work well together.
The gpu is the 1 thing gamers upgrade frequently thats why on your first build you need to use your money wisely and get the best core components you can for your money
Psu-cpu-gpu then hd/ssd, case last
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>>335706602
Nothing about what I said says skimp on the PSU, neither did I suggest anything even close to under 100 dollars.

Unwad your fucking panties, retard.
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>>335706602
You are an idot. Just go away.

You don't even need a gold rated PSU. I have a 4 year old bronze rated antec with dual 12v rails that is 650W and I'm running a 390 and i5 both OC'd. It isn't modular and only cost 50 bucks.
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The CPU will dictate what motherboard you should buy, and it's also one of the most expensive parts.

Once you've decided what CPU you want, find all the motherboards that have the right socket for your CPU. From there look out for stuff like SATA 3 and USB 3 ports, how many RAM slots it has and what type of RAM it supports.
If you buy an SSD you want a SATA 3 slot.

The GPU is obviously an important part of your PC, but they all fit in the same slot so you don't have to worry about compatibility - just be careful about their sizes and whether they require additional power.

Calculate the wattage you'll need out of your PSU, but also be careful that it has enough connectors of the correct type you need. Many of the strongest GPUs require 2 PCI-e 6-pin connectors.
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http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dbXBf7
r8
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>>335706523
This:
>>335705004
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>>335707095
Yeah thats a good upgradeable start. I would recommend trying to afford an i5 atleast though. You can probably get a 4gb AMD GPU for that price also which would be worth it.
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>>335705772
A newer i5 PC is like $550.
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How long until cpu/gpu need to be upgraded?
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>>335705878
>muh strawman
Those aren't even sold anymore. Pentium G3258s do really well though.
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>>335707310
Yeah, upgrading was in mind.
I'll go check out AMD GPUs, and I'm thinking I should change the PSU to something modular and higher wattage, although that would add to the price.
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>>335703231
I used this site

http://www.logicalincrements.com/

Made an outstanding build and has been pretty excellent when it comes to games.
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>>335705779
i meant a year ago

>>335705819
i don't want to sell my shit though, it's a pain in the ass and people always lowball me

and i get about the same power as a 980ti or more from my two 770's

i also run about 6 or 7 hard drives, two gpus, two ssds, and a bluray drive
also, some cards eat up 400w alone so getting a 500w psu is retarded
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Stick to blue and green LEDs, reds are for advanced builders who know how to manage heat better
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>>335707609
Modular is only quality of life not performance so get more power first for cheap as possible.
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>>335707368
>prebuild

>>335707486
CPUs lasts at least 4 years, GPUs at least 2 years. Depending on how much money you spend on these parts they will last longer.
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>>335707748
>>prebuilt
Nope. It's a combo deal.
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>>335707671
>and i get about the same power as a 980ti or more from my two 770's

What an absolute load of horsehit. You are a massive liar.
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>>335705878
okay play one on a first gen athlon 64 you fucker who deliberately misses, nay, EVADES the point
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>>335706865
Its not whether or not the psu can do its job, its securing you investment.
All it takes is 1 fuse blow, or a power surge and you can fry your pc.
Where you would have secured that possibility if you had a well made psu with surge protection.

Just like when building a pc the probability of frying a CPU because of static is slim but we all still ground ourselves.
Pc building 101 dont buy cheap ass shitty psu's, its not the last on the budget list its the 1st
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>>335706523
>1000W PSU for 800 bucks
i got my 1000w for about $120 5 years ago and it's still going

and that's $120 canadian so it's like, idk, $100 USD
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>>335707870
>what is a surge protector
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Get whatever parts you want. Don't get involved with the garbage brand war nonsense. Get a plain looking case with good cable management and air flox, expensive cases are unnecessary and look mostly tacky as fuck. Don't skimp out on the PSU. Get Windows 7 for maximum compatibility with shit. If you're interested in Windows 10 exclusive games I suppose get Windows 10 if you don't mind the Web 3.0/App-age look of the OS and the spying. More sure not to wear ecstatic shit like a jumper or anything with wool while building it. Buy an anti-static wrist strap and attach it to your case if you're worried about damaging parts. Look up some tutorial on Youtube on how to build a pc if you're unsure and can't be fucked to read a guide. thats bout it
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>>335703231
Don't build one.
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>>335707814
okay senpai nevermind that even two gtx 760s would outperform the first titan
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>>335708002
>ecstatic
nigga it's electricity, not an obscenely good mood
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Donots people learn the hard myself included donot fall for these memes:

21:9

AMD cpus

SLI Crossfire

Overpowered PSUs (online calculators exist)

Overclocking CPU or GPU

Fancy case

Super fast RAM

Gaming MOBOs

Windows 10

Freesyns/Gsync

144hz monitors

Most of these are just a waste of money or luxuries that are not even needed.
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>>335707870
>All it takes is 1 fuse blow, or a power surge and you can fry your pc.

Unless you live in india this is not a problem. A better PSU won't protect you from this anyways so again it proves your input is fucking worthless.
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>>335708005
only feasible answer for the people and content of this thread
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>>335708056
>Falling for the SLI meme

You got ripped off.

Enjoy waiting for patches before you can use your second GPU and then enjoy stutters.
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>>335708196
I'm on my phone it was auto correct. Sorry
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>>335708436
poorfags are so funny with their ">Falling for the ____ meme" bullshit
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>>335708204
i concur

im even going to go the extra mile and kanker risk by stating:

450W PSU for a build UNDER 1000 USD is enuff
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what's this 'make sure you don't spend too much on your psu!' meme? even a 900w 80+ gold isn't that expensive

it's like $120 USD or so

>>335708436
>MUH MICROSTUTTERING
funny, i've literally had only two games that ever actually gave me issues with that

asscreed rogue, which worked fine in single-gpu mode anyway at 1440p on full

i can't remember the other one off the top of my head, i just remembering it happening

i think it might've been The Evil Within, which i tried again with recent patches, and works fine
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>>335708558
>poorfags
>Buying a cheaper GPU
>only to "upgrade" when cheap GPU is on sale

ok
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>>335708674
GTX 770 was about $440 CAD at release
it was still the most expensive part
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>>335708645
>i've literally had only two games that ever actually gave me issues with that

Enjoy it.

My single GPU doesn't need to wait for patches to be used.
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>>335703231
Dont settle on your final purchase until youve been tweaking it for weeks.

Consult Linus with all questions
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The only real way to truly fuck up is to not use the little stand offs to space your motherboard from the case frame.
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What is wrong with Windows 10? It looks comfy af + im tired of 7
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>>335708204
Overclocking is not a waste
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>>335708831
Linus best
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>>335708802
good for you, i guess? both times i ever had a problem there was either an eventual official fix (within a month, actually) or an immediate alternate fix

i'm enjoying my high framerates and low price paid
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>>335708927
It's a luxury and price per performance you are better off putting that extra money into a better gpu.
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>>335708921
its not really ready yet, give it a couple of years.
why assblast your way into an incomplete OS
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>>335703231

avoid anything from AMD
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>>335709103
>incomplete
literally no problems for me so far
i also paid $20 for windows pro off ebay
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>>335709298
Or just get enterprise for $0 off kat.cr
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>>335709084
not him, but
>useless luxury
not if you emulate a lot of stuff like i do
you absolutely need the overclocking, it's a huge performance booster
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>>335703231

Use magnets to demagnetize the parts so they don't break
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>>335709497
Fridge magnets under the motherboard help keep things cool.
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>>335709497
People can actually belive that
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>>335703231
Here's a perfect combination:
Mobo: ASUS (like, B150M-K or B150M-A) <$80
CPU: Intel (like, i5 6600) <$240
Vidya: GTX 970 (or, if on a budget - GTX950)
RAM: 2 pieces of cheapest 4GB DDR4 by Kingston/Crucial. Trust me, 8GB is more than enough for 1080p
PSU: get Cooler Master. 500-600W plus
Don't forget to check that the PSU has the necessary 24 pin (mobo) 1x4 pin for CPU and at least 2 6+2pins for any vidya you want to choose
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>>335709298
>not GNU master race
Why even live
>BUT MAH GAYMZ
GNU has all the good games, you won't miss your fucking Call of Shitty/Dank Souls games because they suck.
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>>335703231
>>335706602
I agree with some of this sentiment, OP. I bought a nice mobo and a Great Valueâ„¢ PSU but it was gold rated and full modular, cost me $70. Even though it failed me a little bit later down the line, it was also good enough to not irreparably destroy my motherboard because it (and the mobo) had fail safes built in to prevent frying or power surges. Warranty it came with let me send it back for repairs and get it back refurbished. Tech I spoke to was patient, kind, and very knowledgeable, he even understood the problem I described, something you barely see in technical service. Don't skimp on any parts except for auxiliary stuff like RAM, Storage, Aftermarket fans, case, optical drive. I'd much rather have a well balanced PC than an OC 980 or motherboard with a shit BIOS you can't use at the first sign of trouble.
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>>335709850
This is a good example of a cheap beast.

I built this for my sis but with a second hand 290 and she gets 1080p 60fps on everything with high- ultra settings.
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>>335709914
>GNU has all the good games, you won't miss your fucking Call of Shitty/Dank Souls
this is the worst fucking strawman i have ever seen
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http://pcpartpicker.com/p/PxHjYJ

There you go. I picked everything for you. I don't even trust you with pirating so I bought you Windows. If you're too dumb to build this you can even pay someone to build it for you (I think newegg has this service).

I don't trust you with water around this computer either, so I selected an air CPU cooler for you.

You will not have to upgrade again for the next 10 years or if something breaks. And even then, in a few years all you will have to do to keep up is overclock your CPU, buy another 980ti to run in SLI, and change your hard drive every 3 or 4 years.

The only thing I'm not sure about are the speakers and headphones, but I'm sure you can't get spoonfed harder.
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>>335703491
For me, I fell for the overclocking meme mostly because I live near the Sun and any temperature over 70c triggers me. My asus z170a with 6600k is cool and stuff but I'll probably never OC it
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Homeless person here, what would be best CPU for Am3 platform?
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>>335710275
>not a used i7 laptop for less than $100
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>>335710007
>Even though it failed me a little bit later down the line, it was also good enough to not irreparably destroy my motherboard because it (and the mobo) had fail safes built in to prevent frying or power surges

When will you stop lying and replying to your own post?

If you had a gold PSU fail then your advice is just bad in the first place. Power surges don't happen in the 1st world and surge protection is a requirement in a house. Also it costs 5 bucks for a surge protector board compared to spending
$30 extra on a PSU that died anyway kek.

>spends extra money on meme PSU
>it dies anyway
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>>335710198
if the world had more people like you, itd be a great place
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>>335710348
Fuck no, my last laptop died too soon, I had PC running 8-10 years before dying on me, I just found my Old am3 board
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>>335710514
used 8350 maybe
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>>335710212
Same here. spent 100 bucks extra that could have been saved for else where
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>>335703231
you want a cheap as fuck pc OP? here

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-2-pcs-SR0KX-Intel-Xeon-E5-2670-2-6GHz-8-Core-Socket-2011-CPU-/331818841195hash=item4d41f1b46b:g:pNMAAOSwv-NWZxoZ

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Genuine-Dell-Dual-LGA-2011-Sockets-Precision-T5610-Motherboard-WN7Y6-/291694707885?hash=item43ea5c04ad:g:1k0AAOSwe7BW0NMX

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kingston-HyperX-Fury-Memory-Red-8GB-Kit-2x4GB-DDR3-1866MHz-/121840936304?hash=item1c5e492570:g:PvgAAOSwoudW-4iN

you need 2 kits of the ram

http://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-600B-600W-80-PLUS-Bronze-Power-Supply-120mm-Silent-Fan-ATX-PSU-/181906895731?hash=item2a5a7ef373:g:Yf8AAOSwMmBV5bX9

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rosewill-Computer-Case-FBM-02-Mini-Tower-Micro-ATX-Dual-Fan-/381043265053?hash=item58b7f2ce1d:g:vQIAAMXQBlJSBAuU

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Thermal-Solution-Air-BXTS13A-Cooling-Fan-Heatsink-LGA2011-/291286902332?hash=item43d20d663c:g:cKQAAOSwxH1UKvuU

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MSI-GeForce-GTX-680-4GB-N680GTX-Twin-Frozr-4GD5-OC-4GB-256-Bit-GDDR5-/172182263153?hash=item2816dcd571:g:2LMAAOSwYmZXIKSO


for the love of god OP, take advantage of the 8 core xeons when they are 60 bucks a pop and use them. 2 of them give you an 18 core pc for cheap and it bitchslaps anything else
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>>335710198
>two 1TB hard drives instead of one 2TB or one 3TB
uh
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>>335710275
any piledriver
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>>335710551
Its for Am3+ not am3 lol
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/v/ this is my first build and I'm about to click purchase, should i change anything or im good to go?
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>>335710514
I still have a 13 year old core2duo and only the HDD failed, replaced it and its a perfect little DX9 XP gaming machine.
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>>335710747
they're not BC?
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>>335703231
so what can I run on this 5yr old piece of shit /v/?
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>>335710408
>meme7
>meme 3.5
>not a 850 evo
>seagate instead of wd
>cd-rom drive

At least you didn't fall for the 16gb ram meme.
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>>335710760
refer to the cpu's listed on >>335710693


go for the dual xeons. they are 8 cores per cpu and get a lga 2011 mobo dual
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>>335710760
Ditch the i7 and get a better GPU.
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>>335710408
>inb4 muh Single-Channel DDR3

this better be bad bait.
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>>335710730
As you go up in size they become less reliable
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get ready to bleed
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>>335710872
Torchlight, diablo, NES roms, Need for speed carbon.
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>>335710760
Get a WD green instead of that Toshiba HDD.
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>>335710405
>When will you stop lying and replying to your own post?
boi
It was two years ago so the details are fuzzy, but the 24-Pin cable between the PSU and CPU was frayed and not transferring power properly. When I was diagnosing it or when it did it on it's own, if it weren't for the PSU's failsafes, the motherboard would have been dead from the unfettered power being supplied by a cheap PSU. Not to mention the modularity let me diagnose the problem with relative ease.
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>>335710808
you can put an AM3 cpu in an AM3+ socket, but not the other way around
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>>335710948
What would be the better GPU?
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>>335710760
ignore >>335710948, you 980ti is more than capable of basically everything at ultra even at 1440p

but you don't actually need the i7. an i5 would be fine
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>>335710212
>because I live near the Sun

Anon I don't understand.
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>>335711162
I'm just kidding mang
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>>335707095

Literally Br/10 tier
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>>335710760
oh and i'd get 650w or more to be honest, just to be safe
especially if you plan on doing SLI down the road with a second 980ti in the future
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>>335710212
>buy OC capable set up
>don't overclock because you're a pussy bitch who is too stupid to look up how to do it
i live in california and overclocked my 4690k with an nh-d14 during the summer without problems, you're just making excuses and or bought a shit cooler.
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>>335711265
I understand that she is the cutest creature I've ever layed eyes on. I need a name.
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How do u know what shits compatible with what?
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>>335711556
>she
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>>335711572
amd cpus in amd boards
intel cpus in intel boards
ddr3 for slightly older boards, ddr4 for newer ones
that's about it
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>>335711572
Common sense?
For the most case, almost any GPU will fit in any motherboard.

CPU and motherboards, just google your CPU, or look at its socket type. Does it match the motherboard? Then you're good.

Thats really it.
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>>335711556
No dude please, you never ask that, what if it's a dude and your dick got tricked? Just live in the fantasy, never ask for name
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>>335711265
CerebralEnigma

It's probably not worth it though.
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>>335711572
pcpartpicker.com checks every kind of compatibility
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>>335711707
>>335711754
Found her, definitely a girl.
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>>335711714
I've never had any luck with amd shit. So Intel it is.
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>tfw you bought a g3258 and a z97 mobo for under a hundred bucks at microcenter almost 2 years ago and its still running strong pic related, buy the way the cpu is clocked at 4.6ghz on stock cooler
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>>335710940
Isn't 2 xeons too much?
>>335711107
Thanks, will check it out.
>>335711230
That's exactly what I'm looking for, but wouldn't the i5 restrain me from future games?
>>335711406
I wasn't planning to spend too much on the PSU, but since lurking this thread I am actually worried of fucking up my pc for cheaping out on the power supply.
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>>335711871
Is she a feminazi? That hair definitely screams feminazi.
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>>335712053
you need like 700 W if you want to SLI 980ti
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>>335712089
Not too sure, shes a die hard reddit girl, I found out. Theres also nudes of her out there, apparently, I'm searching now. She seems pretty cool.
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>>335712089
You can find an imgur link if you reverse google those pictures
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>>335712053
Your build was perfect man. i7 is useful for stream and recording and running shit while gaming. You wont have to shutdown skype or anything while gaming. More games will have support for it too.
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>>335711893
AMD's GPUs are actually pretty decent now, to be fair
inb4 WHAT DO YOU MEAN 'NOW'
AMD GPUs were shit for a while, but ATI was amazing back in the x1xxx days
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>>335712137
Nah youre wrong more like 650 with dual or triple rails.

>>335712279
I have the most shit on 290 I got second hand for 120 bucks, and has not failed me once. I run everything 1080p 60fps high settings on everything.
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>>335712137
Ok, will keep in mind if I install a second GPU in the future.
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>>335712449
290x would've been nicer but still pretty good
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>>335712449
This build >>335710198 with SLI 980ti consumes 742W at max load. There's a crapload of stuff though
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>>335712449
>>335712734
some cards eat up to 300w alone so nah i'd do more than 650w if i were you
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Why do people shit on used cards. I got a mini 760 for 110 dollars last year and I manged to overclock it, and it still hasnt died dispite running hot in my mini itx case. No way I was gonna spend 250 on a new one
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Rate my build, /v/-chan senpai!!

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/nKhrJx
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>>335712908
dunno senpai
bought a secondhand GTX 770 and it's just the best
oh, and a 7770 with an aftermarket cooler. damn thing ate up three slots but it only cost me $80 CAD in 2013
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>>335712975
Where are the pop tarts?
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>>335704278
So you are telling me that I cannot overclock GPUs now?
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>>335712908
Honestly it's best when buying off the rich who update yearly. There is some risk but the guy I buy from gives me all the warranty stuff anyways.
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>>335712975
Get an EVO/PRO 850
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Remember that if you have sick rig with 70hz monitor its still gonna look like shit. 120/144hz where its at.
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>>335713158
Sandisk pro with the 10 year warranty is nice too.
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>>335713115
I knew I fucked up somewhere.

Do I want the blueberry or the cinnamon for maximum price/performance?
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>>335713194
>TN

nty
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>>335713316
Cinnamon runs spicier but it's usually better
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>>335712975
see if you can get an R9 290X for cheaper
>wifi card
i'd honestly recommend a powerline adapter instead. they're fantastic

and maybe a bigger hard drive than 1tb but i'm a data hoarder so it's just my onion

other than that it seems fine
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>>335713425
TN is best in regards input lag and response.

Unless you move your head around like pic related you fell for a meme.
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>>335708204
>luxuries
>needed
what luxury is ever needed you shadow of the colossal faggot
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>>335713194
>70hz
isn't the standard 60hz?

>>335713603
TN doesn't usually look as nice as AMOLED or IPS
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>>335713526
My house has old shitty wiring. None of the outlets are properly grounded. I don't know if a powerline adapter would have any noticeable advantage over a good wi-fi card. It might even be worse.
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>>335713625
I would say some luxuries are needed, but I live in a first world country you communist.
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it's like putting together legos
except some of those legos are worth alot
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>>335708204
I think 144hz is nice and smooth and Ive been using it for so long I can definetly tell the difference between it and 60hz. Pic related is my monitor I got it last year for 200 bucks, did I fuck up?
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>>335703231
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/mJsFBm

This is what i built for my first PC OP, rings pretty well, i had a cheaper cpu when i built it and i dampens performance in some games. I usually stay medium on games with up to 60 fps
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>>335713961
Actual legos can cost 10x more than a pc system too.
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>>335713680

IPS a shit. At least you can tilt the screen to compensate for TN's shitty viewing angles, you can't do anything about IPS glow.

I wish they made amoled monitors though.
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>>335713603
yes, it was 5 years ago
IPS now is pretty much equal to tn in lag but still more expensive
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>>335703231
AMD is fine for video cards in spite of all the hubub around here about them, but stay the FUCK away from AMD CPUs. They're awful.

Go Skylake or Devil's Canyon and you can't go wrong.
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>>335713964
Nah it's fine.
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>>335712053
for 65 bucks a pop? hell no... well yes to a point but you can't pass up that overkill for that cheap
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>>335714208
I find heaps of games are optimized better for my skylake system which is identical to my gen 3 system. Fucking software/poor coding making my old intel worse than it should be.
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>>335714332
What support is there for dual CPUs though?
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>>335703231
It's not hard. If you have any IRL friend who knows their shit, it can be good to have them keep you company when putting it together. For parts: check /g/ guides and and finished building sets.

Rule of thumb:
Make sure your budget for the computer is $700+. If it's less you'll get a mediocre PC that will be too slow too fast. It's better to do it properly the first time.
The PSU is the most important part. If it fails it could fry your entire system. Check out some guide on this alone.
i7 is only good for shit beyond video games. Like video rendering.
Quad core is what you want. For 6+ cores: ^
Dual channel dem RAM (don't go below 8GB total)
Nvidia/Intel > AMD/AMD. AMD processors are usually crap for games, and Nvidia pays publishers to make games run like shit on AMD systems.
Don't touch the brass coloured areas on the parts.
Don't touch the heatpipes on the coolers.
You want a dedicated SSD for the OS.
SLI/Cross Fire is only worth it if you are rich as shit, or know your shit. It won't give you much more power for games.
Get one of those anti-static wrist bands when putting it all together.
Get some candy to eat when building it. In case something doesn't work as it should, you don't want to have low blood sugar.
Also. Buy pic related.
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>>335703491
Don't knock a good case. I have a Cooler Master something or other top of the line case and my 980Ti never runs past 45C even when playing Rainbow Six: Siege.

Do know what a gimmick is though. When looking for a good case, you want 3 things in particular: a big case with a lot of space, good airflow via vents and fan ports, and ease of working on it, which is unfortunately something you'll never really know until you actually get to touch and take it apart.
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>>335714610
AMD GPUs are by far the best price for performance. I always recommend them over a less powerful Nvidia if money is tight. But if you can afford a 970 at least start with that.
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>>335714812
Horizontally mounted mobo cases with fans blowing directly into the gpu fans is ideal.
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>>335708204
Overclocking GPU's is ridiculously easy and unless you screw around with the voltage it won't possibly hurt it (worst comes the worst it will get too hot and shut down before any damage or it will crash.) It's basically a free 20-30 percent performance increase once you find a steady setting.

Plus you can set it so that the fan goes at a constant rate so it doesn't sound like a jet engine is starting and stopping every few seconds.

CPU's on the other hand need a little bit more thinking. It's not worth paying extra just in case you want to overclock.
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>>335714610
Don't act like AMD hasn't pulled the same shit. And a lot of the reason that AMD processors sucked was because they kept tacking on the gimmicks.
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>>335704646
>FX8350
That CPU is already obsolete, just wait for Zen.
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>>335714872
Yeah. But almost all games these days are made for Nvidia. So that fucks over an AMD user hard.
I think it's worth the extra for a GPU that actually works with the games you play.

// AMD user for the last 5 years
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i've got an i7 6700 and a gtx 750

how much of a faggot can you call me?
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>>335715334
I feel the same because I bought a 970 but have a 7870 and both machines play everything fine just one with lower settings.
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>>335714056
stop trying to defend you shitty fucking colors and kill yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP7C00BIzH8
http://imgur.com/a/CcfCb
god /v/ is so fucking shit at tech advice.
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>>335715212
and by the last part, it's worth it if you plan on overclocking, it's not worth it if you are unsure since you'll probably end up not doing it at all and wasting the 40 bucks or so.
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>>335715367
What an idiot.

Could have bought a way better gpu while buying an i5 instead.
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>>335707748
>GPUs at least 2 years
My 270x is near 3 years old, and still runs flawlessly. I problably won't need to upgrade till late 2017 worst case scenario. The only GPUs that last two years are low end shit.
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>>335715282
They have. But not as much as Nvidia.
Also. AMD is a dying company. So I think it might be smart to abandon ship.
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>>335715482
>Because thats where my head sits

Are you a smurf?
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Currently running a pretty good PC with a total shit of a GPU (7750). Should I grab a bee card now or wait till Pascal/Polaris?
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>>335703231
no amd cpus
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>>335715663
watch the video and see that regardless of where your head sits the color accuracy isn't even fucking close to matching what the IPS monitor is capable of. your monitor looks like fucking dog shit, stay delusional if you want to but don't mislead others about how
>oh my TN monitor looks just as good!
>i never move my head so it looks just as good lol
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>>335715914
>caring about color accuracy

Are you a gay?
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>>335715565
jokes on you i upgrade in increments
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>>335708204
THIS

also curved/4k monitors
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>>335710760
>platinum PSU
Autism, get a bronze 80+ 600+W, you'll save a few bucks on that even
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>>335715482
>bright and pure white images
>using the only fucking things IPS does well as a comparision

Sure convinced me.
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>>335703231
Get a fucking mid tower. Big ass towers are a pain in the ass.
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>>335708745
well now a loaf of bread is 440 CAD so who had the last laugh?
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>computer randomly crashes
>go to event viewer, it's from asus ai suite
>disable that shit
>still freezes anyway
>google it
>all the top results are forums with the answers being "lol google it retard"
you know what, anyone posting on an IT forum and saying "google it" should be round up and shot, either help out or don't even fucking post you pieces of shit
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>>335715914
I use a plasma TV for my PC.
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>>335713964
If it's 144hz you didn't fuck up, no matter the price.
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>>335716043
That's beside the point. i7 processors have no practical benefit over i5 prcessors 90 percent of the time. Unless you use you computer for something that needs hypertheading, which games don't, you are spending more money for no tangible benefit.
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>>335703231
let me tell you some mistakes I made so that you may avoid them

>buying the latest greatest card
Don't be convinced by the braggers talking about their new superduper card. Just get a mid-range one.
>liquid cooling
Unnecessary and louder than standard heatsink. Useless on processors that cannot be overclocked anyway
>colourful LED anything
it may seem cool at first but it looks really immature and casts annoying glows at night
>mech keyboards
it's just marketing.
>gaming mice
Just get a Logitech.
>fancy motherboards
unnecessary
>16gb RAM
completely unnecessary just get 8 at most
>muh NVidia muh AMD
AMD aren't as bad as people say its all marketing and hyperbole.
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>>335716265
It's shit like this that put people off computer gaming.
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>>335716078
ALSO 3D
ALSO VR
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A rule I've learned is to not build a computer until Black Friday / Cyber Monday weekend, that's when you'll find all of the best deals.

Also, finding a deal on custom built i5/i7 ANYTHING on Craigslist will get the job done.
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>>335703231
took me 40 mins

it's not that hard bro
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>>335716265
Update BIOS
Update drivers with a utility like driver fusion

Source is I have asus board.
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>>335716363
hyperthread my vm software to play win3.0 games at 4000 fps
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>>335716043
Not that anon, but the gtx 750 is an entry level card. Is just only one step behind of the gpus some laptops have.
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https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B00NOP53AA

Pretty cheap 980, cheapest ever so far.
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>>335715914
If people cared about color accuracy, CRTs would be still around. Eat a bag of dicks with your shit glowing panels.
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>>335705457
But you can get a i5 4690k for less
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>>335716563
its garbage tho
if you want mid tier shit i recommend a 960
*50 is always garbage no exceptions
gaming tier starts at *60+
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>>335715914
>IPS monitor
If you are that autistic about it, even OLED monitors are better about color accuracy.
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>>335716375
>buying the latest greatest card
This.
>liquid cooling
Unnecessary unless you are going top tier, its only good then.
>colourful LED anything
Not really, obviously it shouldnt be a priority but it just looks cool overall.
>keyboards and mice
Im with you, I got a cheap ass genius keyboard and mouse and they work fine even now, they are 4 years old. Even if one break its just 5 bucks for another.
>fancy motherboards
This.
>16gb RAM
Depending on what you are doing, it may be necessary, for gaming it's not necessary, yet. Still would recommend because in the next years we will hit even more levels of bullshit when it comes to required specs.
>muh NVidia muh AMD
While both work just fine, I would go with Nvidia just because there are more workarounds and fixes than AMD when the game has a shit code.
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how much money you have to put in a pc to game on 4k? is 5k a thing there is a dell monitor out
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>>335717186
>>16gb RAM

It saves you from initial release memory leaks in games.
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>>335703231
Well, don't buy an Nvidia GPU and don't buy an AMD CPU. Don't forget an SSD and get at least 8GB of RAM
That's about it I guess.
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>>335716563
>>335716897
confirmed, had to bump dark souls 3 down to 720p.

havent tried since day 1 though maybe it's more optimized now
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>>335717261
Why would you go 4K anyway, thats mostly for attentionwhoring. 1080p is just fine.
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>>335717186
>more workarounds and fixes than AMD when the game has a shit code.

Nvidia using tessellation to obselete older cards. AMD has an option to turn it off. There is no good or bad just get the best card you can afford on the hierarchy chart.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html
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>>335717471

yeah but people said to me 980ti is overkill for 1080p
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>>335717647
Not at 144fps on a 144hz monitor
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should i get a 21:9 screen guys? do i need to go sli to run game on 3440 x 1440 ultra?
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>>335717801
980ti should do it fine.
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PC building newfag here, really want to upgrade from my prebuilt piece of shit, but I have litereally no idea where to begin.

Can I get decent graphics on a 700-800 dollar budget?
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>>335717953
depends if ur PSU can handle the added load. i had to upgrade my shitty 2006 prebuilt HP to throw a piece of shit in it.
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>>335717801
Wait 2 more months for new pascal or polaris graphic cards
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>>335710693
does anything utilize all the cores? i thought 4 high ghz cores were better than 8 or more lower ones. im sure benchmarking uses it but i mean games etc
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>>335717953
Download Speccy and get back with results.
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>>335717953
Check what card do you want. Use this list >>335717594
Check if you meet the requirements, voltage and shit.
Sounds dumb but its a must, check if the card fits in your computer. I have seen a lot of people get butthurt because the giant card cant fit in the small-ass case.
If everything is fine, think about adding good coolers.
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>>335718285
not a prebuilt but mine was built with leftover parts.
what should i upgrade/start over with?

inb4 cpu, I know its shit, its from like 2004 or something
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>>335717801
I also want an ultra-meme monitor but I'm afraid of shit like games not supporting it (a lot of new ones do but some don't) and not being able to get one that's over 100hz right now.
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>>335718631
CPU is fine, really, just get it a nice cooler and OC it. GPU still works, your urgent matter should be to add ram.
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>>335718641
at least on PC 1080p 60fps is the minimum right? riggght?
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>>335718285
here's muh specs. Note the garbage. I literally can barely run Dragons Dogma at like, 12fps.
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