Why the fuck do people say League's champs are more boring than Dota's heroes again?
LoL's champ kits have so much intricacies and interactions weaved into each ability, with so many things applying on-hit effects, almost every skill having a passive and an active component, innate passives, scaling damage values, etc. etc.
Meanwhile Dota has heroes with like two passives which take up skill slots and even the actives are just completely braindead simple most of the time, usually being just simple nukes and stuns which are boring as shit.
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/featured/mid-season-magic
Look at this fucking update which just came out too - when's the last time dota had a patch this huge?
>>334841663
Its a meme you dip.
>>334841663
League also has the best girl
>>334841663
lol champions
>human
>human
>human
>human
>half-human
>human
>human
>human
>little girl
>human
>human
>human
>some spooky human
>human
>>334841663
>when's the last time dota had a patch this huge?
In a few days.
>>334841663
>quirky passive
>skill shot
>dash/jump
>buff/debuff
>quirky ult
That's 90% of the League roster
>>334842164
>Le reddit randumb tier champ
>Better than innocent pure goddess
>>334842421
>single target stun
>aoe nuke
>generic passive
>damage dealing ult
90% of dota's roster
League costs $600 to play all the heroes
Dota costs $0
>League updates
>Cassiopeia
L M A O
M
A
O
What? Did they make her shittier so even LESS people play her, now?
>>334841663
When's League getting an Aghanim's scepter item that upgrades the ults which most of the time completely change up the way you play some heroes?
>>334841663
Hello Riot marketing.
Hope you're getting paid well.
>>334842204
Never played LoL
>>334842552
Or items with meaningful active effects.
>>334841663
Took this just today.
Your game is DEAD LMAO
>>334842552
>most of the time completely change up the way you play some heroes?
Now I like dota but that's an overstatement, it doesn't drastically change the way you play, just gives more options
>>334842492
reminder that Lux actually hates her life and is only in LoL because she has nothing else
>>334842501
So I know that his post was not really fair, but what you posted is actually several times bigger bullshit.
>>334842552
what if League get Black King Bar
>>334842591
Ive played enough thank you
Sniper
>AoE slow and damage over time
>Passive that gives autoattacks a chance to slow on hit
>Passive that just gives attack range
>Generic single target nuke that can be casted from longer range
Viper
>Poison autoattack that slows and damages over time
>Passive that just gives you more damage against low hp targets
>Passive that decreases magic damage and damages attackers over time when they deal damage
>Single target slow and damage over time
Drow Ranger
>Give your autoattacks a slow
>AoE silence that pushes back people
>Passive that increases the damage of all ranged units on the map
>Passive that literally just gives you agility
Lina
>aoe nuke
>stun nuke
>gives you attack speed the more spells you cast
>single target nuke
You fucking call these kits? WHERE'S THE SYNERGY? Where are the on-hit effects? The passive components? The innate passives? Dotards???? You could fucking combine half of these dogshit passives to their actives and just give them more shit to do
League only got popular because the female champions were more interesting to fap to, and now they're trying to make them all uninteresting. The game will now die as the male demographic moves away and Riot invests no money in features unless they can directly return money.
>>334842853
There's morgana's spell shield if that counts.
>>334843001
illaoi pleases my penis
>>334842501
Nope. I can't even think of one hero that your idiotic post describes, let alone 90% of the roster.
>>334843041
I said female
>>334842501
>single target debuff that freezes you if you don't get far enough away from the initial cast point
>enviromental effect that slows enemies and reduces magic resist if gone into
>aoe buff that gives you bonus damage, but slower attack speed
>global ultimate that has to be activated twice before it goes off and grows in effect the further away it is activated from the hero
>single target heal that also deals the same amount of damage to the targets around the healed target
>single target magic immunity buff that can also be cast on enemies
>passive that slows down movement speed and attack speed of enemies
>ultimate that gives allies physical immunity and increased health regen (can be upgraded with scepter to make it global and go onto buildings as well)
>aoe heal that chains between allied targets and also damaged enemies near the healed
>single target poison attack that gives you a damaging dot that incrementally slows you down, and if fully upgraded will stun you at the end
>single target buff that prevents you from going below 1hp
>aoe buff/debuff that increases the armour of allies and decreases the armour of enemies caught in it, gets stronger for every second that passes
Just some examples
>>334843147
>he doesn't like muscle girls
>>334842501
not a SINGLE hero has a kit like that. try harder
>>334841663
Dota 2 has huge updates every 3 months. Try playing Earth Spirit then you come back.
>>334842980
>Sniper
>Lina
>drow
>no synergy in their kits
>>334842980
That's where the items come in my friend.
Riot has to overload their skillsets because 90% of items are nothing but stat sticks.
>>334841663
>Look at this fucking update which just came out too - when's the last time dota had a patch this huge?
Every few months, actually.
reminder that League will never have anything like this
>>>/vg/
keep your cancer there please
>>334842726
>>334843718
I love the Tide one.
>>334842204
>2 robots
>cyborg
>ghost
>scarecrow
>grass hopper praying mantis alien
>anubis
>sobek
>armored bear
>talking rat
>talking catfish
>dragon
>blob monster
>a made up race of little chibi rats
>predator cat
>acid spitting alien dog
>axe wielding zombie
>giant rock
>big daddy from bioshock
they should make crossover lol x dota2
>bushes
>turn rate
>half map lol other half dota
>roshan is seen by dota players nahsor by lol
>dota heroes are free, lol champions you have to buy or grind
Would you buy it?
>>334842980
Add Dazzle or Oracle to that line up and you have a legit scary team.
Phantom Assassin
>Single target nuke that slows
>Blink that gives attack speed
>Passive evasion
>Passive crit
Anti-Mage
>Blink
>Mana burn passive
>Magic resistance passive
>AoE nuke
Shadow Fiend
>Nuke, Nuke and Nuke
>Passive armor reduction aura
>Passive damage increase from unit kills
>AoE nuke that also triggers when you die
Meanwhile in League
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Yasuo
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Zed
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Ekko
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Lee_Sin
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Master_Yi
etc. etc. etc.
Dota ADCs have garbage boring kits
>>334841663
So new Drake thats pretty cool
Mages get cooldowns Brand gets a buff same goes for Cassio.
Hope they finally fix Brands ult issue that would be niece
>>334844228
>calls dota heros boring
>has totally not weaver in his post
?
>>334843718
Why did comics fall out?
They used to make them in bulk, but now they are a rare occurrence.
>>334844043
>turn rate
fuck no fuck that shit no dropped
>>334844228
>cherry picking
Invoker
>10 skills 10 SKILLS SON
Meepo
>you control from 1 to 5 rats
>5 damn heroes
>they can tp to each other any time
Any illusion based heroes/creep control heroes
>>334844228
PA
>dagger can crit, and applies any melee attack modifiers from items. This can include stun, slow (attack speed), mana drain, armor reduction, ext
>AM
>mana break is inherited by illusions, allowing a manta style AM (or a shadow demon) to drain most of a targerts mana in a short time. See Ult
>SF
>passive awards souls that amp both basic attack and ult. Souls can be gained from any last hit, that includes denies, a thing that LOL cant do
>>334842980
Sniper's aoe also gives vision and the "slow" is a minibash which stops you dead in your tracks unless they changed it since I lass played.
I don't really know Viper aside from fighting him mid is annoying.
Drow Ranger can orb walk with her slow making it more than "just a slow". The silence actually synergizes with her ult because she doesn't get the agi bonus when enemies come into melee range. Not to mention countless other uses it has because of the push back.
Comboing Lina's abilities takes skill unlike LoL. In fact Lina's ult is in line with many abilities in LoL so you should be happy playing her right?
I know this is bait but some people really believe these things.
>>334844228
>simple = boring
They're called rightclick heroes for a reason.
But that doesn't automatically make them boring.
Look at Sven
>AOE targeted stun
>AOE buff that increases movement speed and armour
>passive that gives you cleave damage
>ultimate that straight up just boosts your damage, also makes you rage incarnate
As simple as you can get with a melee carry.
I never have a boring time when I play Sven because he's so fucking mindless, just throw your stun, pop your ult and go fucking ballistic, shit will die, hard. Never a calm time when you play Sven because you'll be yelling your lungs out whenever you engage.
If you want a slightly complex carry, then just play faceless void (especially now with his reworked timewalking stuff) or weaver
>>334843790
Got one from back in my day.
>>334844228
Both games have boring ass heroes that just run in your face in smash keyboard and more complex champions that idiots play to make them feel superior over the masses while missing all their attacks.
Both games sucks, league is normie central with some fucktards as devs and Dota is stuck in early 2000 and refuses to evolve.
>>334842346
SOURCE
>>334841663
>Why the fuck do people say League's champs are more boring than Dota's heroes again?
They aren't boring, they are just really badly designed compared to Dota 2.
>>334845030
>>334843790
>>334845351
He's talking out his ass, no patch until after Manila Major
>>334845531
expect patch notes this week
>>334845450
How so?
>>334845323
Man, why did they have to remove the tribunal system.
That was one of my favorite pastimes when I stopped playing LoL, combing through the asshurt was fucking hilarious
So many mass reports for saying "ez", its like the global trigger word for league players that causes instant asshurt, and people actually got banned for it as well.
>>334844228
Please anon, i enjoyed league and its heroes are nothing to be proud of, just think of how many heroes have some kind of leap attack, or alternatively how many have some kind of short dash movement.
Its ridiculous.
>>334845476
we know LoL use bots senpai
>>334844228
>lets just ignore the fact that shadow fiend has 3 nukes with large damage on 3 separate cooldowns with 3 different ranges and 3 different cast animations with a frontal positioning requirement that takes practice to land properly
wew lad
>>334845595
>people actually got banned for it as well
Good.
>>334845625
>>334845476
>nick is gay
>>334845570
Not him, but the champs are so much alike each other with no to little difference between them.
I feel like that the fact that Riot has to constantly release new champs limits how diverse the characters are.
It might have changed though since last time i played lol was in 2013.
>>334845689
>shit, gotta turn those heroes purple so they don't look like dragon knight
>Hey boss, look at this omniknight rework we just released, pretty cool huh?
>ONE, JOB, guys!
>>334845595
Indeed.
I remember a guy that said something like "I could smell this premade bitches from here". Someone has the cap? It was 10/10
>>334845689
>Skeleton King
Yeah right.
>>334845689
Anyone got the fucking skeletons image?
>>334845631
How about one of the most retarded and mindfucking decisions ever made?
>>334845943
>Guinsoo
>Knowing jack fucking shit about game design
Guinsoo DotA is like a Vietnam flashback at this point.
>>334845778
>the champs are so much alike each other with no to little difference between them
That's completely false. The only reason it seems that way is because item build diversity is lacking.
>>334845943
>What's this "punish" concept you speak of?
Guinsoo and the rest of the chucklefuck designers are such fucking idiots its ridiculous.
mobas are shit
>>334845943
Guinsoo is a joke for all communities for a reason.
I looked at LoL once, fucking ticklefights the game. Nobody ever fights, nobody ever dies, players actively avoid fighting. Less than 20 kills at the end of the game. People finding that entertaining is nuts.
>>334846024
Not him but I remember the time when atmog was meta top tier and at that time all the offtanks/brusiers/whatever they are calling thm now felt the same. One damaging ability, one passive, one tun and big damage ulti with small utility. This describes tons of champs tbqh.
>>334845595
When the tribunal was still active I did about 50 cases towards the end and just clicked Punish for them all. I had 47/50 successful punished and the 3 that got pardoned were true cancer feeding retards when the rest were stupid things like "ggez" or "you tried".
so when will NA not get absolutely fucking dumpstered at worlds
>>334841663
Diversity isn't always good. the designs behind these guys make it look like their from not only different games but completely different studios.
Not to mention most of those heroes are just rips from dota save vlad and poison ivy
>>334846186
>>334846393
Pretty much most of lol can be thought of as "oh, it's x from dota, but shittier."
>>334846196
>This describes tons of champs tbqh
I can't think of a single bruiser who fits that description.
>>334846024
I don't know many of new champs that are now, but back when i was playing most of the champs had samey moveset.
>A skill shot
>A dash or gap closer
>A passive that procs on hits
>Something something aoe
>An unique ulti.
Not to mention that only a few heroes was useful everymonth because of the constant unbalanced nerfs and buffs, and let's not forget the fucking forced meta.
>This champ is supposed to go here and build this.
Fuck that.
Glad i quit years ago. I have tried Dota a couple of times and i wont say that your time is better spent on that game, but their champs are objectively more interesting than the champs lol had back when i was playing.
>>334846224
It wasn't perfect but it was fucking hilarious, and somtimes that's all that it takes.
>>334846504
>cherrypicking this hard
>>334846504
>cherry picking
>>334841663
I've played MOBAs only casually, but I have yet to find a hero that's as fun as Ezreal. The only fun I had in that game, but it was fun.
>>334846631
Those games happened to be going on at the same time.
>>334846559
Then you might be retarded or have alzheimer. Your choice.
>>334846393
I wouldn't actually say rip off from Dota, but more ripped off by popular media in general.
Most of the champs are generally references to movies, comics or other video games.
>>334846752
Is Mundo still unplayable?
>>334846778
Give me one then.
>>334846504
Look at how much better Dota looks
>>334847151
>posting workshop stuff that isn't even in the game
>>334841663
"changing cassiopiea"
god damn motherfucker no
>>334847384
How old is that picture, Windranger hasn't been commonly played as support in ages.
>>334847290
How can you say any of that when heroes like Invoker or Earth/Ember/Stormspirit exist
On top of that, league's spells are relatively:
Low mobility
Low speed
Low range
>>334841663
>This season we're buffing this role in specific
They don't even HIDE the fact the meta is forced.
>>334847627
>201 3
>not putting your slardar and dk in the safelane
>>334846975
When has he been bad? Besides against a vayne. He's strong especially with grasp of the undying. Mix in the meta golem items of sunfire and iceborn and gg
>>334847645
I mean ok if you don't care, but that picture is about as relevant as if I would photoshop a tiara and a bunch of dragon dildos on skarner and then post it like it would say anything about LoL
>>334847627
Saved it in 2012, so some time around that.
>>334841663
playing a MOBA is the closest thing to hell I can imagine.
>>334847834
Not that OP but you may recall stacking sunfires
A long time ago, but that used to be a thing
>>334847951
Anon the fuck are you even going on about at this point?
It is humorous; that is why it was posted.
>>334844684
>turn rate
>this triggers the lolfag
>>334841663
>848x660
>Aurelion Sol
>Stolen ability from Wisp
>two of his abilities dont do any damage
>His only damaging abilities is his passive, which is extremely easy to walk away from and his Q, which is also extremely easy to walk away from
>Ult just does a single piece of damage in one line and thats it, they didn't even fucking TRY to be inventive with it
>>334847779
to be fair the meta is forced in dota as well, icefraud has been releasing nothing but supersynergy wombo combo teamfight heroes and buffing heroes that can take mid to lategame, hyperlategame carries are nerfed (other than spectre but she can manfight early). Just try picking Meepo or Lycan, you're basically a fucking gold pinata. Earlygame push is also nerfed because gotta get dem esports moneys
the games are the same thing. Anyone who thinks otherwise is stupid and retarded.
Stop playing bad games
>>334848459
>supersynergy wombo combo teamfight heroes
>on an enchantress patch
>hyperlate carries are nerfed
>on a spectre patch
> Just try picking Meepo or Lycan, you're basically a fucking gold pinata.
>Lycan is actually picked, was in a pro inals just yesterda
>>334848638
Also the last game of the last match of said tourney was finished within 15 minutes.
>>334847779
>riot buffs juggernauts and then adcs
>tanks are some how utterly broken afterwards
sometimes the meta goes in directions they can't predict
and for the most part they "buff" the role because the champions in that role are all homogenous or uninteractive. literally almost all the mages in league has waveclear, have some cc, and a big aoe ult nuke so whoever has the higher number becomes the best one in that role, and they are trying to make them different with the mage update
>>334846186
So you watched an EU/NA pro match? They're fucking snorefests. Games regularly break into the 15-30 kill ranges for people playing normally.
>>334848459
Everything you listed as an example is wrong and even if it was correct, none of it is "forced" like League does.
Sometimes the most OP playstyle doesn't get discovered until several months into the patch.
Only fun league scenes to watch are Korea and China, NA and EU sucks
Dota is cool but learning ASSFAGGOTS is an endeavor and I already put a lot of time into league
>>334848372
You can't deny that flying in from anywhere to hand deliver a teamfight-sized stun isn't the tightest shit
>>334845943
>Ginsoo
Waiting for Pendragon posts.
>>334849505
I've never seen any one be able to pull it off. The stun moves slow enough for people to react and just walk the fuck away
>>334849505
Looking at the new champs I like the bird general guy. Is he any good?
If so I might come back to that hellpit.
I play Dota, but fap to League porn the most.
>>334849505
I love using WISP with dagon, ult from base to an enemy with spirits loaded on and gives him up to 1000 burst damage then come back to base is fucking satisfying.
>>334847290
>You can't post outdated stuff about Dota
>its okay when we do it for league
>>334849795
Do you mean Swain? He's been around since season 1, I think. He's cool, new items will make him great again.
>>334852880
I think I have his Tyrant skin. He was a fun character.
>>334845689
Yeah, I hope you like your gap closers and steroids in LoL. So damn deep.
