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How the fuck do I get good at this game ? Either I demolish the AI or I get raped.
Also general Civ thread.
you are extremely behind in science
focus libraries and national college as soon as possible
go to war against the other civlization next to you instead of city states
First off stop playing a shit civ, Japan is literal trash tier. Second off, you're probably not doing enough micromanagement. You should be manually assigning and locking all of your tiles to focus on growth, and rearranging them depending on if you want to work specialist slots for great people or if you want to work production for producing settlers. (Protip: you can't starve while your city is making a settler). You need to focus on science more, I don't know what speed you're playing at but if it's turn 275 and you're only making 54 science you're doing something wrong. Finally, there's no reason to ever be working gold in one of your cities.
tl;dr:git gud
>>334544753
I wanted to settle a city close to where machu was but he did it way before I could.
So I decided to get the two city states for the resources but I ended up losing time building units.
But thanks now I know what I did wrong.
What difficulty?
I did my first playthrough with my friends on Settler just to learn shit. We stopped around Normal because after that the AI just starts cheating at the game and it isn't much fun anymore.
You understand that you can focus city wide on a certain objective like science, production, or food right? Maintain good relations with at least 2 or 3 city states, I usually go for for at least one militaristic since they'll gift units that you can keep or just sell for gold. Don't be afraid to go for a nearby Civ since it helps a lot. I usually annex cities unless it's obvious that the Civ was just throwing cities down to increase score and the city has no useful yields or goods.
What maps do you play?
>>334545103
honestly thats a really unlucky start being sandwiched in between city states mountains and the inca
generally you want to get settlers out fast, like when your captial is at 3 population to grab settlement spots before the ai
>>334545103
invade the motherfucker and take any city of value. you are labelled as literal hitler for invading city states anyways
Play America, get 3 settlers, plop them down around someone you hate and buy all the tiles instantly.
>>334545296
>invading that city through fucking jungle and great wall
I don't think so, anon
>>334545000
>your city can't starve
Are you fuckin kidding now I know how people can rush a settler so fast.
And yea more science. I focused on getting the city states because I was going to be stuck hence my lack of technology.
And yea I was too lazy to micro manage my tiles. Guess I'll do it andgit gud
THE number one skill to have in Civ is knowing when to build what
You just have to get a feel for build order and when to adjust it
In general, focus on food and science, all else is a means to facilitate the growth of those two
Usually settlers can wait a while but if you see a great site you grab it immediately
>>334545439
the default tile managers usally do a decent job if you know when to use them, i switch between production and default
only they will focus a 2 food 2 gold tile instead of a 2 food 1 production which can fuck over your start if you dont lock the right one
>>334545149
King and earth map that isn't the real earth.
I usually do it through quests and gold but I was super poor all game.
>>334545240
>>334545000
Yea I learned you can't starve when producing settlers
Anyone here play any competitive multiplayer, or is it just me?
>>334545424
just kill all his units, put a few expendables units with fortify around the city and let the ranged units do the work since they dont get fucked for attacking the city.
works everytime with the AI. they are kinda retarded
>>334545296
I wanted to take machu until I saw how ahead he was and he also has jungles and a gr8 wall so fuck that.
>>334545701
What's your strategy when you start off the game?
I always spend a turn with the warrior exploring nearby areas especially if you aren't next to a river, ocean, or mountain. It's even more urgent to look somewhere else to settle if there are no decent food and production yields in the immediate vicinity, and try for at least 2 goods.
After I settle, depending on map type I go for a Scout first just to explore quicker to find new areas to possibly settle in. Explore those natural wonders plus ruins. Remember to build tall at first, then maybe settle a bit more later on.
>>334545819
>>334545981
I've only played with friends consistently but I'd be down sometime to start a game with you guys. Eventually would be cool
>>334545637
Yea I made shitty mistakes like not augmenting my pop to atleast 12-15.
Also yea fuck Japan second time I lose hard with them I'll stick to China and arabia
>>334544535
>playing as Japan
>annex city states
nigga u dumb
>>334545819
I'm waiting until they make v9 NQ interesting again.
>>334546083
thats what I do except this time i spawned next to a city state settler so I captured and settled as there were a lot of ressources.
>>334545819
>>334545981
>>334546083
pic related
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>>334546614
There was nowhere else to settle so i took em as my cities.
>>334546682
>NQ
Mah nigga
>>334545981
>>334546083
A /v/ game could work but it'd need to be held somewhere specific, a friday night /v/ thread or something. There's no way we'd get through the entire thing in 1 sitting or even 1 day, so it would probably end up being split up, but I would definitely be down for "friday night ci/v/" or something like that.
>>334545981
How the hell do you get so far ahead in 15 minutes that someone wants to quit? Why don't people just gang up on him if it's a problem to them?
I'm having a similar problem with MOO2.
How the fuck am I supposed to enjoy MOO2 anymore? Normal difficulty is effortless now, but hard (the next step up) is ridiculous. Every other race ends up taller, wider, higher tech and with more ships, without exception. That not even the worst part, the worst is how the bipolar AI will cause even my closest allies to declare war on me out of nowhere. I'm also getting framed every other turn, pls halp
>>334546904
Pretty simple, everybody rushes GL/Pyramids and ragequits when they don't get it
>>334546904
people quit when they dont get the great library
>>334545819
>played multiplayer with my friends from 2013 to 2015
>finished maybe 10 games in their entirety
i miss them
>>334546997
>>334547000
>there are people who unironically don't ignore GL in multiplayer
Wew.
>>334546904
Someone who doesn't know how to play the early game is pretty much always going to get blown out by someone who does. Plus, scrubs always rush GL or Petra and ragequit if they don't get them.
>>334547120
>everybody else will be ignoring the GL, i bet i can build it because i have a decent amount of production and i got a free tech
t. 50% of the players in any given multiplayer game
>>334544535
Play ruthlessly, but secretive. The eye of the tiger, except with drowsy eyelids.
>>334547196
I rush Petra all the time when I'm playing against my scrubby friends because I can usually guarantee I have the highest industry by the time I get to the tech. GL is just a crapshoot unless you get a god-tier start.
>>334545981
15 minutes is extreme but whenever I play with friends we normally end up stopping at the renaissance as it'll be clear who'll win by that point
>>334547112
I must've started dozens of games with my brother and my friends, but I don't think we ever finished a single one. Someone always loses interest when it becomes clear they won't win.
>>334547462
Whoah, your comment is strangely similar to mine.
>>334547550
>>334547550
>see player falling behind
>kindly put them out of their misery before they start realizing they're miserable
>"God, anon, why are you such an aggressive dick"
How can you teach the blind to see?
>>334547550
i remember once there was a game that was so close it was decided in a single turn
i was one turn away from nuking and invading my friend's final city and he was one turn away from getting a diplomatic victory
he kept me at bay with 2 landschnekt and eeked out a diplomatic victory, most tense shit ever
>>334547693
This. In all the games I play with my friends, I make it a point to not drag the game on any longer than any of us will find fun because they're falling so far behind.
>>334547550
>>334547462
thats what happens when i play with my friends too
>>334547954
Should have checked yourself before you schnekt yourself.
>>334547442
No wonder is a crapshoot when you go Egyptian Tradition.
>difficulty settings
>AI just has flat out advantages rather than playing better
>mfw the report showed every civ with 10 happiness at turn 10 while I had 2
>>334548278
and thats why Civ 5 is a shit game
>>334548278
Literally the only way an AI can compete with a human
>>334548278
Yeah, one of the bonuses is a flat happiness boost at the start of the game. And how else do you expect them to design the difficulty settings? Program smarter AI for each difficulty?
>>334548443
the AI*
Some AI's are better than the best human at some games
>>334548536
It's not really fair to compare shit like AlphaGo to a home PC game AI.
>>334548472
I did, still never had fun with the game because of that.
>>334544535
>2-3 scouts
>Monument
>Food early
>Production
>Research
>Cycle between production and research
>Variable between military or continued cycle of production and research
If you're able to get great library you're playing on too low a difficulty. Consider hanging gardens if you know England isn't in the game. If you start next to Russia or the Huns, good fucking luck with that.
>>334548464
>Program smarter AI for each difficulty?
That was the original plan but it put too much strain on the computers back when they were making the game apparently as well as making turn timers extremely long.
>>334548536
Fair point.
>>334547309
The no quitters mod pack, I don't think it's on steam so you might have to google it. Complete re-balance of most buildings, units and tech tree's.
>>334548721
The correct strategy when placed against aggressive AI on high difficulty is to bribe them to go attack someone else. They usually won't declare war on you until they finish fucking the other person's shit up, which usually gives you enough time to close the gap on their huge start advantage.
>>334548278
>civs on deity start a whole era ahead of you
>>334549062
>Start next to huns
>Will invade before you've got enough money to buy a worker
Yeah nah early you're fucked with the Huns. You gotta assert military might or they'll dick you.
The Russians are hit or miss, you might be lucky and they'll fuck with your neighbors.
>>334544535
Civ V is piss easy compared to the others. Holy shit. Get fucking good.
>>334549185
not quite
just with an extra settler and several free techs
>>334549185
>Install no cheating AI mod
>No early bonus of food, production, science, warriors, scouts and free settler
I love playing on Deity with that mod, the AI isn't completely retarded enough to send in a shit load of archers and one horseman at the front.
>>334549502
the ai for the game stays exactly the same throughout, all the difficulty changes is how much they cheat
so you might aswell just put it on prince
>>334549414
Not quite, read
>>334549502
>>334548721
i'm on the 2nd hard and i get GL pretty easily. The game i lose is when i put too much time into religion and it doesn't pan out.
>Start a game next to Zulu, Huns, Alexander, Brazil
>Give Salt to Zulu so he'll fuck up Alexander
>Give Sitrus to the Huns so he fucks up Hue hue
>They both leave me alone until i got a good fort setup and my superior production makes me practically impervious until artillery is researched
>>334549595
Not true, the game makes better unit placements, prioritize specific buildings that would benefit most from it and actually set up specific unit training cities like humans can.
I've made a million spectator games where I've time lapsed AI fighting against one another in different difficulties, with the mod installed you can see the clear difference in the AI's difficulty design. If you do not believe me then set one up yourself using the in game editor.
>>334549396
yes and league of legends is piss easy compared t others yet you probably suck at it
>>334549851
are you talking about a no cheating ai mod or a smarter ai mod?
>>334550085
Just the no cheating ai mod, gets rid of all of the beneficial starting bias, expect for the placement bias like plains or forest ect.
If you install the in game editor from the steam workshop, you can set the map to reveal all, and put a nuclear sub in a random tile away from everything else, delete your settler and warrior (i usually pick Venice because yeah right is he gonna win the game) and then spam next turn, take your time to see how the civs are progressing. I've noticed that civs on higher difficulties amass much larger armies and have their their general resources much higher too. They also seem to have gold wheras those in lower difficulties like settler, prince, chieftan etc have no money or negative money.
So it's obvious that difficulty does affect their decision making.
>>334550571
if you're referring to this mod
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=79873100
the difficulty level bonuses still apply, they're just not accumulative so they're less than without the mod
>>334550954
It wouldn't be that one because all civs start off exactly the same.
Recommended mods?
*sigh*
you have to BELIEVE good sir.
>>334550072
Maybe. I've never played League of Legends.
Is there any mod that makes the AI tactics less retarded?
