Is this the most balanced fighting game that ever existed?
yes.
>>333090263
Pretty much.
>fighting games before
>need to learn up complex inputs just to play at a basic level
>high skill ceiling
>autists spend hours just trying to get the bare minimum down
>Smash comes along
>extremely accessible with a skill ceiling just as high
>can be played casually and competitively
>autists so triggered by this that they have to rewrite the definition of fighting game to exclude Smash
L M A O
>>333090263
Pokken's roster is more balanced.
no that's melee
>>333090263
>fighting game
the most balanced fighting game of all time is street fighter 1 because both playable characters are 100% identical
>>333090994
please stop falseflagging, scrubquotes has enough material on its own without you trying to make smashfags look worse.
It may be balanced, but it's not very fun when the challenge shifts from "trying to hit the opponent harder than they hit you" to "trying to hit the opponent at all because of all of the air dodging"
>>333090263
Pm is the most balanced smashbut it's a mod
>>333093108
LOL
>>333093135
>melee
>balanced
>>333090263
Project M.
It even managed to achieve the balance without making everyohe bland as fuck like smash 4
>>333090263
>>333090263
>Smash 4
>Balanced
Here's the most balanced game in the series
>>333093937
also the worst
>>333090263
It is more balanced than people give it credit for.
I mean, it's not perfect (Bayonetta, characters like Zelda and Jigglypuff being shit, etc) but still. Pound 2016 had a shitload of character variety and Abadango managed to win it all with Mewtwo of all characters. The balance patches we got definitely helped out a lot.
>>333090263
No.
More balanced than Melee? Yes.
>>333093860
> 1 player
> He never wins majors
I still feel like it's way too easy for Cloud's attacks to connect. When I play against Cloud, I feel like I'm trying to punch a cactus bare fisted or something.
>select all squares with street signs
>it's just a picture of a tree trunk in the woods
What the fuck.
>>333095454
Imagine if real good players used her.
BALANCED!!! Okay then...
Ness has braindead combos and a piss easy kill throw
Lucas has guaranteed ways to edge guard heavies.
Mario's u-tilt bullshit is guaranteed on fast fallers
Bayonetta takes literally no skill other then combo memorization
ZSS and Falcon can spam the same combo the entire time and win
The Pits have a piss easy way to edge guard using Down B
Little Mac has a 60% combo on fast fallers EXCLUDING KO PUNCH which 0% to death.
Mario's u-tilt shit is guaranteed on fast fallers no matter what DI
Bayonnetas huge combos are guaranteed on fast fallers
Heavy projectile characters are nightmare matchups for certain heavies.
Mario, Luigi and Yoshi can n-air out of hitstun
Pacman and Villager can win by doing the same thing over and over
Corrins counter use to kill at 35%
ROSALINA DOESNT EVEN HAVE TO TRY TO PLAY SHE CAN JUST SPIN THE C STICK AND DO A WOMBO COMBO!!!
>>333096426
I think you might be 200% mad because you're a Ganon main who gets rekt by everyone because you don't know how to play him properly
>>333093937
O to death combos and Pikachu say otherwise.
>>333090263
Fight a level 9 ganondorf CPU and ask me that again
>>333096426
Just play Melee
>>333096426
>Little Mac
>Ness
>Lucas
>Pit and Dark Pit
>Pac-Man
>Villager
>Complaining about any of them
>>333094230
Nah, that's brawl.Smash 4 isn't far behind.
>>333097914
>The Brawl is bad meme
Just stop.
>>333098149
Tripping, removal of air momentum, very unbalanced. Feel free to tell me what's good about it, and what's bad about 64.
>>333098149
>The hyper-realistic dated artstyle with a stale atmosphere is good meme
Just stop.
>>333098373
>Bigger cast
>More stages
>Subspace emissary
>Online (shitty online, but online nonetheless)
>Chargeable smashes
>Side-Bs
I'm not saying 64 is bad. I respect it for setting the foundations of Smash, but it doesn't have all the content that Brawl has. And obviously Brawl was much more likely to be unbalanced due to the huge roster it had compared to 64.
>>333098975
More content doesn't mean the game as a whole is better. At its core, the mechanics of Brawl make it less satisfying to play both casually and at a serious level.
How do meleefags defend only 3-4 characters being viable in the whole game?
It's like playing football but only from the 20 yard line to the endzone and claiming it's a full experience
>>333099548
And 64 had 0-to-death combos, Pikachu, WAY TOO MUCH HITSTUN AND SHIELDSTUN, and slow as hell both in air and ground.
Granted, Brawl and 64 can still offer good time in casual terms, and sometimes, even at competitive times if MK and Pikachu is not there.
>>333093506
But it's true.
>Balanced
>Shulk gets fucked by nearly half the roster
>Bayonetta and Corrin
>>333099849
Its because of entertainment factor. If people enjoy watching a game, it doesn't matter how broken or flawed the roster actually is. People watch and enjoy Fox vs Fox all the time because the gameplay is combo heavy and exciting.
Personally, I feel the same about when someone uses Bayonetta in Smash 4. She is combo heavy, so I enjoy watching her more then I enjoy watching most of the other characters in Smash 4.
>>333101395
Corrin died dude, didn't you hear? The last patch nerfed the stuff that made him broken, then removed the stuff that made him a good balanced character. Cause of this, even Marth is a better swordsman then him.
>>333103163
Not him, but I might be the only one who thinks Melee is boring because of the the incredible repetition of Fox vs. Fox, Or Fox vs. Falco, and the fact almost EVERYONE from Melee's competitive scene has atleast a pocket Fox or Falco.
>>333093135