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explain this
and before you say "but video games are for kids" consider this picture I took yesterday at a walmart check out line
Call me when magazines have little girls dressed like that printed on the front covers
Target audience.
Yes it is possible that kids will see the magazines with kinky pictures on them, but the point is that those magazines aren't being advertised and sold TO them.
The entire point of age restriction isn't to create a walled garden where feeble young minds can't be tainted by the horrors of sex and nudity, but that kids need to understand that they're too young and they aren't meant to search for those things, and they aren't meant to take them lightly.
A young kid seeing sex or violence with the awareness that they're "forbidden" things will grow differently from a kid who lives in an environment where sex and violence are treated as normal things.
Because most nip rpg plots are bildungsromans or other coming-of-age stories, with which they use 16 year olds, who in their society are straddling between the childhood of middle school and the adulthood of secondary/post-secondary, trade school, or jobs, in the same way western stories depict 18 year olds doing much the same. However, 16 year old sex and nudity is strictly illegal in the US and a lot of Europe, so the nip stories that have 16 year olds coming into adult life and society often have to be censored in the west so as not to depict what would be considered child pornography.
In other words, those dirty Jews are trying to take our video games away.
I think part of it is trying not to alienate a general audience. Seeing skimpy pictures of live women at least makes sense to be attracted to, there's a bit of a stigma of you being a werido or virgin if you're going after the panty lines of made up animuu women. Companies don't want to appeal to that crowd at risk of warding off people who look down on a bunch of hentai fappers
>>331444528
It might sound strange but the new craze right now is coloring books for adults. My sister is really into them, and I know a lot of women in particular are really buying into it.
That being said you are right, they are usually associated with children, and a child would still be interested in looking at that book.
Does a child know what the words "wild sex" mean though, does it matter if they do? I don't think we should hide that kind of thing from children really.
I feel the same way about game boxes, its true that the standards fluctuate unfairly for certain mediums.
>>331445578
>A young kid seeing sex or violence with the awareness that they're "forbidden" things will grow differently from a kid who lives in an environment where sex and violence are treated as normal things.
Yeah, one will become stunted and maladjusted, the other will be healthy and developed.
Hypocrisy. We don't deny it
Simply put, because the women on the left choose to wear that.
Those characters on the right can't exercise any agency over their wardrobe.
>>331444431
>left: ugly women
>right: simply drawn ugly women
Glad I have a superior taste in men
>>331445524
The girls on the fucking magazine literally look younger.
>>331446245
they all look like 30+ disgusting whores you mongol
>>331446063
I don't know why you switched order, but that's precisely right.
>>331444431
AMERICA!
>>331444431
Because videogames are for childrens.
Tabloid are for adjusted adults.
Who the fuck cares, just play the games you autistic retards.
>>331446178
>CARTOON GIRLS HAVE RIGHTS YOU GUYS!
>>331444528
>only kids eat candy and use coloring books
>>331444431
Because all weaboo cucks should kill themselves, and this is one step closer towards that.
>>331446612
>>331444431
OP, i know you've been on 4chan for a while, but the real world won't support your disgusting loli fetish you sick fuck.
>>331444431
Because it's a freemarket you fucking COMMUNIST
>>331444431
>>331444528
fucking god, the autism, it's unreal
>>331445838
>However, 16 year old sex and nudity is strictly illegal in the US
Sex with a 16 year old is legal in just about every state but Nevada.
>>331446617
I forgot a manchild like you would use a coloring book.
>>331446231
But being gay is a disease anon
>>331444431
because the SJW crowd is composed of spineless faggots with 0 backbone. you don't see these guys spouting their shit against rappers either, and their videos are often way, way worse then most "triggering" things in vidya. It's easy to pick on a dev, but it's much harder to pick on the wolrd of "la mode"
>>331446612
That's the only argument that makes sense, though.
>>331444528
I've actually heard of this trend of people actually using those coloring books
Those aren't coloring books for kids, they are fucking complex as fuck, and I guess they are used to calm stress or anxiety or something.
>>331446857
Fuck off, dumbass.
http://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Books-Coloring-Grown-Ups/zgbs/books/11357541011
>>331444431
I gotta be honest. I like the censored version of the bottom better because stockings really do it for me.
Because no one wants to see your pedo weeb bullshit except you. Keep your mental illness to yourself.
Retailers don't require it. Game devs/localizers do it of their own accord.
>>331444528
Motherfucking Starburst for only 78cents? Sign me the fuck in.
>>331447223
but they obscure the fact that she's not wearing panties
>>331446845
Selling a commercial product depicting such a thing is not.
>>331447131
Yeah, they are for older people. I know someone who published/is working on publishing one.
>>331447387
But stockings more than make up for that.
>>331446231
Being mentally ill isn't something you should be glad about anon
>>331444431
if you want to know the truth it has to do with propaganda.
>>331447668
And the jews
>>331447480
I wasn't aware any of those game depicted actual sex.
>>331447668
if you want to know the truth it has to do with control.
>>331446178
This.
99.9999999999% of scantily-clad cartoon/vidya women are drawn by men for other men, and generally don't have a female intermediary.
>>331444431
murrica.
>>331447968
So what's the problem?
One is for adults
One is for kids
If the world was ran by autists like you there would be pictures of mlp and Pokémon on packs of cigarettes.
>>331447968
So in a wierd way they are fapping with another mans hand?
>>331448052
Not my problem, I'm explaining theirs.
>>331444431
2D girls are 2pure
>>331447968
Actually, a lot of Japanese fanarts and h-manga / doujinshi are drawn by women.
>>331448095
I don't understand what you are implying.
Cigarette companies want to (use to) advertise to kids, but they aren't allowed to anymore.
>>331447968
The nepnep games are all drawn by a woman
because american principles are retarded
>>331447968
But they're not fucking real beings.
Why should they have 'agency' in the first place?
>>331448095
>One is for kids
>CERO B is for 12 and up
>>331444431
because games are for kids lol
>>331444431
Because we're literally retarded and tabloid magazines are "okay because muh freeeedumm of speech" but videogames are evil and corrupting our children
t. american
>>331448419
Im implying ass and titties have no place on a game meant for kids just like a minecraft review wouldnt belong on pornhub.
>>331448374
No they aren't faggot, almost all of them are drawn by dirty neck beards such as yourself
I think it's because the west still attributes drawn images with children. You can tell by the way we handle cartoons over here. If it's drawn, then the show is either a raunchy adult sitcom or it's a children's show. No exceptions. The west just doesn't like to depict mature images through cartoons or drawings. Many people still believe kids will mistake these drawings/anime/etc. for childrens cartoons, solely based on the fact that they're animated.
The only way you can get away with a mature animated figure in the west is by putting in a show with goofy, cartoony characters like Family Guy or the Simpsons.
Hell, animation doesn't even get a spot in the academy awards for best picture or screenplay. They gave animation a special section because people in the west really don't give a fuck about it unless the film begins with "Disney presents.."
In the 90's there was that uproar about violent video games. Yet TV and movies were FULL of violence at the time. People were campaigning for Mortal Kombat to be censored while at the same time, 1992, we get another Lethal Weapon movie and Basic Instinct, but all that shit is cool apparently. It's live action, so it's OK.
This is why Ralph Bakshi has had a tough time in the industry. His entire body of work is animation based on mature themes, so they slap him with an X rating every chance they get. A movie about a fucking animated cat going through his trials and tribulations in a dank urban sprawl was considered pornographic to many in the audience.
I could go on for days about how twisted our view of animation is in the west. You can thank Disney for most of it.
>>331449015
but why? Kids see ass and titties everyday they are near women. It's a natural part of growing up in a human society.
And where do MLP and Pokemon come into this, which is the original point of my confusion.
>>331448207
I've never thought of it like that, but that's pretty accurate/hillarious
>>331448580
>12
Its meant for kids
Are you implying they should put 12-17 ratings so you know when to grow the fuck up?
>>331444431
>>331444431
because anyme women can't consent, but this is something the japanese society hasn't realized yet
>>331449102
Japanese men have no beards.
Checkmate atheist.
>>331446036
>>331446617
>>331446828
>>331447131
>>331447189
>>331447487
Normalfags are fucking weird.
The west has a very strong puritan religious right that is very actively trying to bring them back to the days of sexual repression. All intellectual movements start with kids. Kids play more videogames than read magazines. So they call upon their almighty scapegoat "pedophilia" to force the devs to censor any images that might "corrupt" any child that might happen to play the game. Under the guise of "protecting the children" they are slowly but surely taking back control of the media and in turn western society again.
>>331444431
Ones on the left adult women.
On the right the top one looks like a child and I support that little butterfly.
the bottom looks like an adult woman and adding leggings is unneeded, unless you find legging sexy.
>>331449206
Because thats what society deems socially acceptable. Kids dont understand sex like adults.
>And where do MLP and Pokemon come into this, which is the original point of my confusion.
Metaphor
>>331444431
>7th Dragon
For the fucking children, alright.
>Tactics Ogre
I.. I'm okay with this. Actually, that's better.
>>331449759
>>331450051
Fuck off.
>>331449701
>back to the days of sexual repression
Do you live under a church?
>>331444431
I'm so glad they chose to cover her butt with a butterfly. God only knows what would happen if children knew about butts.
>>331450158
>Im a child who can't handle the fact that other people have opinions so instead of debating I'm just going to tell them to fuck off.
>>331450158
>not liking leggings
fuck off
Mostly Xenophobia. "Normal American women" vs "creepy Japanese drawings."
There's also the animation = kids stigma that's been present here since I've been a kid.
>>331450310
>fat eceleb
Not even surprised.
Kill yourself cancer.
>>331450339
>cover alterations are OK if I like it!
Again, fuck off retard.
>>331444431
>>331444528
Every time I go to the store, they have those magazines hidden behind a piece of cardboard or plastic.
>>331450161
It might be hard to believe since you've lived probably your whole life in a sexually progressive society, but back in the day, (early-mid 20th century) sexual expression and exploration was very looked down upon. They even had a "self abuse" scare where people considered it dangerous physically/mentally for a boy to masturbate.
Pictures like this aren't a joke, they were actual things people believed.
Masturbating boys were something to be punished. The religiious right has always used scare tactics to control and repress people. Witch hunts, Self abuse, homosexuals, devil music(rock and roll), Pokemon/harry potter and pedophila. All the same thing, just with a different coat of paint. It's all about control. Covering the girls on your videogames is just a tiny part of their influence. It's so widespread people don't even know they are being controlled anymore.
>>331451025
So no cover should ever be different? We should just copy all the JP covers even if they suck donkey balls?
>>331450559
Real women vs drawings
FTFY tumblr
>>331451145
I believe he's calling you a retard for thinking religious people have any kind of power over the government. Casual sex and all that shit is around an all time high, I think.
>>331451179
I have yet to see a case where it's justified, would be curious to be proven wrong, but in these cases it isn't justified.
>>331444431
The left is targeted primarily at women. The right is targeted primarily at men. The left is also more likely to be staffed by women than the right.
Women displaying/viewing women in a sexual manner is considered "empowering" and "sex positive". Men displaying/viewing women in a sexual manner is considered "objectifying" and "degrading".
>>331446017
this is the real answer
>>331451145
forgot pic, lol
>>331451386
>>331451145
the religious right doesn't control shit when it comes to video games. remember when fox news complained about mass effect having lesbian aliens and everyone laughed at them and ignored it? then dragon age came out and you could have gay sex and use blood magic to summon demons and you didn't hear a thing because they had all given up trying to censor video games because they were too worried about gay marriage and shit in real life.
>>331451314
they don't have to control the government if they control people.
Game covers are being changed and censored, so they must be doing something right.
>>331451586
I don't think it's the religious people doing this.
>>331447189
>be an adult
>but be such a whiney baby you need to pretend you're a child to cope with life
>>331451145
this
>>331451314
Sex is more acceptable then ever and in every way people can think up.
>>331451145
Replace "religious right" with "feminist left" and you'd have the situation we have now.
Stay mad weebs
>>331451680
People are stupid. They don't know what hobbies are so they have to be told by the evening news. This just happens to be a big new thing so they don't actually have to think about what they want to do.
>>331451725
Why would I be mad that lolis are a protected freedom in America?
>>331451386
>>331451530
It's sexist to assume no woman is involved in the development of video games in japan, specially when talking about the art team.
>>331451339
Skyward Sword
Okamiden
Patron 3
Are just a few off the top of my head that have Awful JP boxart and the US version was a welcome change.
>>331451725
>>331451967
Legal here in the US. Feels great, bro.
>>331445524
They do. In Japan at least.
>>331452003
Involved in development != running the companies. Cosmo is (or was) run/founded by a woman, whereas no major video game publisher or development house can make the same claim.
>>331449701
This. It's a silly witch hunt.
>>331452070
>Okamiden
You're kidding, right?
>>331444528
>Walmart checkout line
>clearly an outdoor vendor at a street corner
You ain't fooling anyone, anon
>>331444431
Video games are for little children
>>331452645
>I disagreed with one of the 3 examples that means zero examples exist and I win.
>>331452885
I never even said that, are you autistic? I'm just questioning why you put Okamiden there.
>>331452848
like you?
>>331451386
>staffed by women
>>331452339
So you are just changing goal posts? What about the other magazines that are run/founded by men? Are those ok or objectifying?
>>331452981
Because I think the US/PAL cover was better.
Why focus on 1 disagreement like it destroyed my whole point?
>>331444431
One is a normal magazine for Americans, the other is strange video games for weebs. Since it doesn't seem American enough it is censored more because they don't know whether the content might be really creepy inside. They know gossip magazines aren't creepy or weird though because normies read them. And normies determine what is acceptable and what is NOT.
>>331452681
are you retarded and blind?
>>331444431
Video games are for children.
>>331444431
I thought it was funny when the "censored" Tharja pic, which covered up literally nothing with a curtain, looked more explicit than the actual image.
>>331453116
A generic background is far worse than actual artwork, so no, it's pretty bad.
Because I didn't care about being proven wrong, otherwise I wouldn't have added that bit about wanting to be out of curiosity. Your point was fine, and I agreed with it.
>>331444431
One is marketed towards an adult audience while the other is still seen by and large as a children's hobby.
>>331444431
I'm sure others have already called you a fucking idiot in this thread, but I'll call you one as well: You're a fucking idiot, OP.
The shit on the left is being marketed mostly towards adults. The shit on the right is being marketed towards a more general audience.
Extremely simple.
>>331453007
Holy shit! How will he ever recover from that burn anon? I bet you have to wear sunglasses to stop from burning everyone like that guy off street fighter.
>>331444431
>Only the weebshit gets censored
Everytime
>>331453384
Fatal Frame V was rated M and still had sexy outfits removed. No children were ever going to be involved. It didn't change the rating.
>>331453384
Why would adults read the garbage on the left there? They should be reading edifying literature such as War and Peace if they're real adults.
notice how it's always the weeaboos complaining that their pedo games got "censored" while nobody else gives a fuck
>>331453727
Notice how you're a faggot?
>>331453675
Because reading's gross or some such bullshit. The magazine has more picture per square inch than word, so it's not really reading.
>>331453621
The censors are aware that no one abides by the ratings. Everything in any video game must be fit for kids, while film and other mediums can actually have content inappropriate for kids.
>>331453792
you don't have to make it so obvious that you're mad weeb
>>331444528
>coloring books
my mum buys some occasionally because she likes the design
but she doesn't go color them
>>331444431
Damn, did they actually change the cover of 7th Dragon? I checked on Amazon and they have the cover with the butterfly. Anything else they change?
>amerifaggots
>>331453792
Got eeeeem
>>331453873
weeb is better than gay amerifaggget
>>331446231
>Glad im a degenerate and proud of it
tumblr is that way -->
>>331454149
kill yourself ahmed
>>331446036
>>331446617
>>331446828
>>331447131
>>331447189
>>331447487
Sounds cheaper than Lego I might look into it
SHUT THE FUCK UP AND POST BEST VIDYA LOLI
>>331453401
did you literally not read the second post?
>>331444431
>>331444528
>expecting society to play by reasonable, consistent rules
You're going to have a hard life.
>>331454115
not even american or gay
but both would still be better than being weeb
You've lost once you've stopped denying weeb
>>331454286
I just got rid of all mine because I'm under investigation for child molestation.
Is shota OK?
>>331449015
>>331447968
Not true, a fair amount of character designers are female.
>>331454393
i will be here forever just for your asshurt cunt
>google "adult coloring book"
>surprised I can't see one cock
>see this shit instead
I mean, some of the pictures look relaxing but fuck spending the hours actually coloring that, guess I just don't get it
>>331454624
It helps retards forget about stress due to the amount of concentration requires. People capable of thought can concentrate on other things with the same effect.
>>331454483
you would be surprised how many minecraft lets plays are on pornhub
>>331454624
I can understand there being a certain kind of zen to coloring stuff. It's one of the reasons why you do it as a kid. But I think if you're spending hours upon hours in those books you might have a bit of a problem.
>>331453869
>The censors are aware that no one abides by the ratings.
Are you fucking joking here. No of course they're not "aware", do you think they do their job just for funsies? They are deciding what age group that content is appropriate for.
Any sexualized content just makes it M for Mature, if it's just juvenile humor you might get T for Teen.
But if you are already M-rated, and your edits won't lower the rating either way, then there's no reason to censor anything.
Violent western games (and a lot of western media in general) seem to get away with exposing kids to this stuff and parents don't care, in comparison to Jap stuff which is frequently censored or lambasted as inappropriate, even when it's clearly a game made for adults.
Like Americans are okay with their kids getting blasted by subliminal messages and constant ads on cable TV, or feeding their kid's addiction to consumerism, or buying their teen daughter vapid, complex-inducing fashion mags, but god forbid I see cleavo or part of a buttcheek on the cover of my son's handheld game.
The changes are so small in some cases you would seriously need to squint to even tell the difference. Yet it still keeps happening.
Who are these changes for? The only people who point them out are all on the internet. IRL parents will happily buy whatever game their kid nags them for.
fucks sake my brother is 12 and hes already moved on from harmless minecraft to PS4 cowadooty black ops online with his friends. kids aren't even kids anymore.
>>331454468
LMAOing @ ur life
>>331448550
Because it is still representation, I mean look at /v/ as an example. Years of seeing characters that are sculpted and built have made everyone on edge and shit on eachother for being manlets or cucks or fatfucks.
Lets be for real nigga, it doesn't matter if they are real or not because it has effects on the real world, are you really gonna try and say shit like this doesn't happen when disney literally created furries back in the day.
Its not as extreme in japan where they have people dedicate themselves to remaining virgins for pop stars and getting depressed because real life isn't like their comic books.
When you have a hobby that limits your ability to be sociable in the physical world you start drawing way too much out if it, and over time when all of your base interaction is with fake characters it hits hard.
>>331454989
>Implying most people here didnt play Golden Eye and Conker as kids
Nigga pls.
>>331454908
>>331454851
Yeah, I suppose I can see just losing yourself in one of those for a while as a somewhat nice piece of escapism, but stuff like THIS picture just confuses me and seems autistic
When was /v/ first exposed to pornography
hentai at 7 real shit a year later
DA CHIDRUNS
>>331454989
remember that one poll people posted years ago to make fun of americans where people said they would rather their children see bare titties or someone being beheaded than two men kissing? now games are full of homo shit and no one cares. who are the changes for?
>>331454851
>>331455234
I was first exposed to adult coloring books when I was talking to a lady on a dating site. She seemed interesting enough in the fact that she had set up a 3DS wifi hotspot spoofer to get all the street passes every day... but then it seemed like she was obsessed with those coloring books.
>>331453093
The fact remains that tabloids and women's magazines have a predominantly female audience, and video games have a predominantly male audience.
>>331455316
Humans are a bisexual species anon
People just wanna stick their dick where it feels good and since sex in america is so common place throughout the culture and we are creatures of indulgence its just no big deal.
>>331455097
>Because it is still representation, I mean look at /v/ as an example. Years of seeing characters that are sculpted and built have made everyone on edge and shit on eachother for being manlets or cucks or fatfucks.
Then why are 99.9999999999% of gamers still manlets, cucks, fatfucks and beanpoles?
>>331455821
Flavor of the month meme
>>331454908
>I can understand there being a certain kind of fun to playing video games. It's one of the reasons why you do it as a kid. But I think if you're spending hours upon hours in those games you might have a bit of a problem.
>>331455219
i think the most realistic games of today have a more profound effect because it no longer looks like a video game. the "game" quality that makes it "fun" rather than "unhealthily addictive".
I dunno, maybe I'm wrong. But stuff like COD nowadays feels like it's training us to be okay, even desensitized, to killing increasingly real looking virtual people.
the shitty graphics of older gens helped your brain distinguish it as a game imo
>>331444431
What I hate about this shit is that it's like they go over these pictures with a fine-tooth comb LOOKING for things to censor.
>explain this
pic related
>>331455506
>I don't understand the difference between sexual liberation and depictions of women in fantasy not matching real life parallels
The problem is that female characters are nothing like women, and I dont mean MS MAN FACE should be a thing. Just saying between misplaced militant feminism and guys, noone can make a good female character that is believable or at least not the fucking generic bs we always get.
>>331447968
>99.9999999999%
A little lower than half of character designers are women, you cuck.
>>331456029
Reported rapes and molestations are insanely low compared to the ones that actually happen.
Kind of the inverse for America.
>>331456029
I think you mean rate of rape REPORTING there.
Pre-feminist cultures like Japan tend to be more likely to put rape on the hush-hush and have women be less encouraged to come forward.
>>331449701
>>331450161
>>331451145
I know this may sound crazy to somebody who's lived their entire life in a blue state and therefore has had the privilege to make liberals the mainstream to which they are the edgy countercultural rebel, but sexual repression is alive and well, you would know that if you bothered to leave the house
>back in the day
For real? Are you fucking serious?
so you're telling me I just imagined getting spanked senseless with a wooden paddle and locked in a broom closet half-naked during elementary school for looking at another student longingly? Authority figures terrifying me into the thought that if I masturbated I was going straight to hell? Shit was so deeply ingrained to me I would burn myself for thinking sexual thoughts about guys and telling people no sex before marriage was the only correct path until I turned 16, then I actually got into a relationship and cracked hard because the most repressed people end up the ones into the freakiest shit
Live in the south and get back to me kidand this is why I get so inordinately pissed when people try to shove their puritanism on me as if being a preachy rightwinger telling everybody how to live their lives is edgy, counterculture, unexpected, and not something I've been putting up with for my entire life
>adult coloring books
Are millennials the generation of manchildren and pampered princesses?
>>331456150
>>331456217
I don't know why everyone says this. Sure, they may be a bit lower than the actual, like it is in every society, but definitely not enough to close that gap. It's just a fact that they have less crime overall, and yes, less sexual crime as well.
>>331456029
Those are the ones reported
>>331455859
Because of how long they have had their masculinity compromised by videogame characters that outpace them in every aspect.
It's why most gamers have body image issues, confidence issues, and feel like they dont understand women, or they don't understand them. Because their common representation of men is burly muscly military men.
>>331456420
>less sexual crime as well.
Nah.
>>331456420
and the non PC answer for this is Japan doesn't have white guilt so they don't take in hordes of raping 3rd worlders.
>>331456420
>less crime overall
>less sexual crime
You don't know jack shit about Japan.
>>331444431
Mothers are the main buyers of these games and they dont want sexual content on the cover of things they hand over to their sons.
>>331456430
>>331456217
>that repulse of sjw scum
>>331455973
I think you are reading too far into it, it does have effects, but there are plenty of alternatives to those games (the alternatives even outweigh them) and its more of a correlation you are drawing from your own head about the over exposure of said games due to being in a majorly 18+ environment
jealousy
>>331456150
>>331456217
>>331456430
>the FACTS and STATISTICS are WRONG
>all that is important are my FEELINGS that there are way more rapes than are reported!
>no I can't prove it... because proof is the tool of a PATRIARCHY!
This is what happens when an entire generation is raised by liberals.
>>331456568
Are you actually implying that they have girls/woman being raped/sexually assaulted at as high a rate? Hell, most places you can have a drunk chick stumbling around in a mini-skirt at 3 in the morning, and nothing happens to her. Try that in a one of our big cities.
>>331456713
Again, you think they actually have more crime than the U.S., England?
>>331456540
If you let fiction to affect you that much then YOU have problems, not the fiction.
>>331456769
You don't need to be a SJW to know that Japan, and Asian cultures in general, look down on reporting crime, and have high rates of unreported sexual crime.
>>331454513
>>331456140
I said "scantily-clad cartoon/vidya women", not "cartoon/women women in general". It's just common knowledge that women tend to be more modest when it comes to portraying their gender than men are.
>>331456420
>Less Crime
>Less Sexual Crime
Yakuza is to japan what the Mafia was to Italy, organised crime is prevalent as fuck, sexual crime is such a problem that they have separate cars on some trains just for women.
If you are going to make a comparison, america only has a higher rate of violent sexual assault that results in death.
>>331454286
I MEAN IT
SHOTAS ARE FINE TOO
>>331456130
Everyone knows, nobody will say because google images exists.
>>331457078
>what are neps?
>>331456993
>2016
>Not being socially liberal
They're not liberals, they're just idiots.
>>331457012
Don't bather arguing with them, they're fully committed to the narrative that a racial homogeneous country like Japan is a crime ridden rape fest, despite literally every piece of information saying that's not true.
When confronted with the facts, they will simply yell "SECRET RAPES!" over and over until you leave.
>>331446036
>adult coloring books
God damn normies are weird.
>>331457012
>Are you actually implying that they have girls/woman being raped/sexually assaulted at as high a rate?
Yes.
>>331457169
OK.
>>331449373
That's a comeback to you man?
Only projecting 12-17 year olds think "growing up" means jackshit.
>>331457078
>"It's just common knowledge"
>tfw I know this will be your excuse not to provide proof
>because you know it's bullshit
>>331447035
>you don't see these guys spouting their shit against rappers either
yes you do, all the time in fact. Did you ever think that because you likely care about and read about vidya a lot more than hip hop maybe you just notice it more on the vidya side?
I mean if you really think people dont criticize rappers you are living in a bubble.
>>331449676
Looks like those Normalfags weren't so normal after all.
>>331450263
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JphDdGV2TU
>>331456420
>didn't say "per capita"
I see what you did there.
>>331449450
This is fake, please tell me its fake.
>>331457310
Hm, maybe the text is preventing it.
Fine.
It's Monobeno.
The girls blink. You can take a screenshot mid-blink.
Smug face - captured.
>>331457186
Why would anyone with any sense of self awareness choose to be a cuck
>>331456345
sounds like a personal problem. I suggest seeing a therapist.
>>331444528
>>331446036
>>331449676
>>331457240
>>331446828
>>331447131
http://thebiggestproblemintheuniverse.com/episode-64/
>>331456993
just because data exists doesnt mean its infallible. Certainly it shouldn't be discounted immediately, but you also have to consider the context of the data and in that vein we can see it might not be super accurate.
Ignoreing data is retarded, but taking data at its face value and not evaluating further is just as retarded
>>331457078
The writer of the Sengoku Rance series is a woman. The artist of the Neptunia series is a woman. There is a popular lolicon manga series called "Kodomo no Jikan", which you've probably heard of, that was written and illustrated by a woman. Women have also done a shit load of works you've probably fapped numerous times to on exhentai without knowing. Don't underestimate the perversion of Japanese women.
>>331457063
>know
>all the factual data and statistics are wrong because patriarchy!
>my preconceived notions about feminism are right because my womens studies professor told me so!
that's now how knowledge works, anon
>>331457475
>I suggest seeing a therapist
do you really think I'm not doing that already, therapy is not a magic cure-all
>>331457471
Because they have a massive inferiority complex, to the point of fetishism. That combined with the Taboo of interracial sex is heavy.
>>331457601
Or I'm just stating that you have a higher likelihood of getting away with rape in Japan because of the ridiculous amount of unreported crime there. Go have some fun.
>>331457409
I hate that all these idiots are labelled as liberal when they couldn't be any further away from it.
>>331457012
Nigga I actually go to bars, that shit happens commonly and nothing happens to them.
Japan DOES have a high crime rate, they have one of the largest centralized organized crime groups in the world. Mugging/extortion/pickpocketing happens all the goddamn time especially in the more densely populated cities.
As for sexual assault and molestation, if you actually travel to japan they actually warn you about the potential and how to avoid it on public transportation because of how common it is.
Rape definition in japan is also extremely strict and a lot of things aren't considered rape, if someone shoves their fingers into you it isn't considered rape or even sexual assault, its just considered molestation. Accompany that with societal opposition to coming forward about it.
You are literally retarded
>>331454989
Oh no you are a fucking idiot. No one cared about it. When Mortal Kombat came around and kick started the ESRB and there were actually now ratings for games everyone in elementary school still went out and played Mortal Kombat and its sequels.
The kids with parents that actually paid attention to the ratings was a minority.
>>331457546
>The context of the data
This isn't "50% of gamers are women" where simple research can make things arguable.
The burden of proof is on you to find this magical hidden majority of rapefests.
>>331457197
>they're fully committed to the narrative that a racial homogeneous country like Japan is a crime ridden rape fest
i think you may have just let slip some of your true motives. Was anyone talking about race or diversity until you brought it up while describing the other sides argument? Maybe you ought to evaluate your own motives before attacking others
>>331457242
Prove it then.
I would love to see you try to prove that Japan, which has one of the lowest crime rates in the world, is somehow a rapefest.
Just face it cuck, you've been brain washed by the liberal media into buying the narrative simply because japan is more sexually progressive than us they are somehow more dangerous to women
It's basic sexual repression 101. They like weird porn, so they MUST be a bunch of raping perverts right?
![[HorribleSubs] Kono Subarashii Sekai ni Shukufuku wo! - 06 [720p].mkv_snapshot_00.46_[2016.02.24_16.53.58].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/3EKIn9x.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Kono Subarashii Sekai ni Shukufuku wo! - 06 [720p].mkv_snapshot_00.46_[2016.02.24_16.53.58].jpg")
>>331457516
I'm sure you think you're clever and have a point there, but I'm not going to bother to decipher it. I am going to round up and just call you a dipshit as I have no idea what you are trying to convey here. So whatever dipshit. I have a feeling anime triggers you, so have an image from an anime.
>>331456420
>less crime overall
The Japanese are liars and regularly refuse to investigate crimes. There's a reason their murder rate is so low while their suicide rate is so high.
http://articles.latimes.com/2007/nov/09/world/fg-autopsy9
>less sexual crime
Sexual crime is rampant in Japan but either the victim wont report anything for fear of retaliation or being looked down on or the police will flat out refuse to investigate the crime.
Yes, the only first world country in the world that has female-only metro cars to stop the out of control train molesters has less sexual crime. Yes, the country that passed a law requiring photo devices to make a loud noise when a picture is taken to hamper the enormous creep shot culture has less sexual crime.
>>331457471
>2016
>Still being a bigot
Who cares what faggots do on their own time
>>331451725
>>331451967
>>331452224
Child porn is legal in US? I didn't think you were THAT degenerate.
>>331457475
Not at all. It's far from just his case anon, i'm from the south as well and it was quite like that for me too.
This is the South-East White American experience.
>>331457117
Yes, the Yakuza exists, but I'm talking about things like robbery, murder, rape, etc. All of those are without a doubt less prevalent. As for the separate cars, without a doubt there was groping going on. However, if we are looking at things like rape, etc., I would say it's definitely lower.
>>331457393
I admittedly didn't mention per capita, but I meant it.
>>331457197
Looks like it. I can acknowledge that yes, there is a certain aspect that makes reporting some crimes less common in places like Japan, but people are acting like the rate will triple, quadruple even. And even if that were true, the rate is still less compared to the countries I was comparing them too.
>>331457771
MK seems to be the only example anyone ever posts
"oh snes censored MK so it's always been like this where every single thing gets censored!"
no, it's a reversal where they have stopped focusing on violence to rage about sexual content instead.
>>331444431
SJWs won their fight against Vidya.
>>331457816
I don't know where all this cuck stuff is coming from, but it sounds like you have some issues you need to work out.
I know people who've been to Japan, and I know enough people who talk about Japan happenings, including Japanese people, who say molestation is a daily occurrence. I really don't care, but I'll keep replying to you if you're going to get this riled up about it.
>>331457765
>muh SECRET RAPES
>muh secret CRIMES
Like poetry
Japan doesn't believe in racial diversity or modern feminist dogma? Of course they must be EVIL and filled with rapists and crimes right?
Oh whats that? They actually have one of the lowest crime and sexual assult rates in the WORLD?
There must be a government wide conspiracy to hide it!
>>331453472
If it is a bright colored cartoony looking anything then it is assumed that it is being marketed towards children, period.
Doesn't matter if there's a big M rating on the box, if it looks cartoony then it is being aimed at kids because that's what kids like right?
Not how it SHOULD be but that's just how our culture works.
>>331446857
no, no, really anon coloring books are trendy right now
>>331458114
>still no proof
You're just proving my point.
>>331451725
let's get this shit started
>he attributes age to drawings
I'll fap to shota now and then but I would never even come close to hurting a child, in fact if somebody admitted to me that they would or did I'd do everything in my power to ruin them
it's not banned in my country because people here may be fucking insane but at least we have the ability to tell reality from fucking 2D drawings on paper
>>331452681
Bro I work at a retail store as a cashier.
There's about 5-6 different 'adult' coloring books in my store.
>>331457062
The problem isn't when specific fiction has those problems, its when all of it does. Just like women get inaccurate representations of men in romance novels.
This isn't complicated stuff m8, Im not going full SJW or nothing I am just pointing out its a real thing that happens, and over long periods of time it can cause problems.
For example, just look at what 50 shades of gray did? It was marketed as an alternative hardcore romance novel to women that spend most of their time reading romance novels, and it even killed someone because of it because these people don't know any better.
Sure people like you or even a decent amount of people well know the separation and distinction between reality and fantasy, but the more that your reality IS fantasy (hardcore fans) the more that disassociation can and will happen.
>>331457831
It's not a crime if it's not reported Anon. Nothing is wrong if there's no one investigating it.
You aren't breaking the law, if you aren't being caught.
what appeal do people see in lolis
>>331447968
Nice sources there kid.
>>331456993
>>331457816
Shouldn't you cuckservatives be arguing how America is the BEST MOTHERFUCKING COUNTRY IN THE HISTORY OF ALL OF FUCKING EVER instead of sticking up for filthy socialist gook foreigners?
>>331458230
What point? I won't bother googling shit so that means glorious Japan is a crime free paradise? Good. I certainly hope so.
>>331457765
>one of the lowest crime rates in the world
>one of the lowest rape rates in the world
>no no thats impossible! its all a giant government/patriarchy conspiracy!
>>331457765
>>331457831
Maybe. You guys seem convinced, but I don't know if I agree with it. Again, I acknowledge that there is a degree of under reporting. But I don't think actual rates are anywhere near multiple times as high.
>>331457781
the point is that no proper data exists. If you want me to point to numbers well then i obviously cant. That however doesn't make your data immediately correct, the idea is that there isnt any decent data at all due to cultural tendencies making it near impossible to collect.
Certainly im not claiming rape is utterly rampant and Japan is just one big rape pile, but i do think there is a very reasonable concern that the numbers we do have regarding the issue arent really indicative of the reality
>>331457962
There is a large amount of unreported crime in Japan. Given the fact it's large and unreported, it may equal or exceed western cultures, especially sexual crimes.
Murder rates are obviously lower, but sexual crimes are probably higher. A woman or little girl that gets raped there fears for her safety too much to even go to the police most of the time.
>>331458545
>data is wrong because patriarchy
literally your argument
>>331444431
>retailers require
These are decisions being made entirely by the publisher. It's not to adhere to any laws, not to appeal to any specific retailers, but to increase sales.
Also, fyi, some grocery stores such as Publix do have a small censorship screen that they place over the magazine stack if they consider the material to not be family friendly.
>>331458119
>Oh whats that? They actually have one of the lowest crime and sexual assult rates in the WORLD?
Well when they take steps to avoid or curb it, without just merely complaining about it, that tends to happen.
>Women aren't represented in manga!
>We'll make our own then, from start to finish including publications
>Oh look, a woman is the most finacially successful manga artist.
>Women are being touched on trains
>We'll make another line for women only
>Oh look, crime rates dropped and the trains aren't as crowded anymore
>However, fares did increase a little bit
>>331458534
>all stats are infallible and cultural context doesnt matter in the slightest
Japan isnt a shithole, but its also a real place filled with real people who do shitty things all the time like anywhere else. Its not the Utopia you want it to be
>>331458304
>Just like women get inaccurate representations of men in romance novels.
And they are retards if they believe that nonsense. Anyone with a healthy brain knows that fiction != reality. So they understand that people in fiction DON'T represent actual people. If they can't "handle" fiction, then they shouldn't consume it. This same thing applies to alcohol and other drug, hell even other activities. People are responsible for their actions, you can't just say "fiction made me do it". That's absurd.
This might not even be a boy.
>>331458545
>the point is that no proper data exists
Then stop making things up and shut up, retard.
>>331458570
>that gets raped there fears for her safety too much to even go to the police most of the time
Okay, come one, this is just hyperbole at this point. I've acknowledged in other posts that there is some degree of under reporting, but I don't think it's the many magnitudes that people seem to think it's under reported. But to act like a sexual assault victim in Japan will not go to the police out of fear of their own safety is absurd.
>>331458686
Actually hilarious shit.
I work at Publix. We're only supposed to vocer I think it was Cosmopolitan and Vogue.
90% of the time in my line some 40+ something woman gasps in terror, finds one of those little censor things, and covers up the things she doesn't like/goes against her religion or whatever and then bitch at me for 30 minutes over how evil my store is for having that magazine.
We're told to just nod our head and wait until they leave then fix it back to the way it was, but most people don't care and just don't bother with fixing it.
>>331458382
here's your (you)
