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Remember when Mass Effect was a sci-fi game, /v/?
All I saw was a shit GoW clone with some RPG elements stuck to its shoe.
I remember Garrus being an overrated Shepard yesman badboy faggot
>>285106196
ME1 was so much fun even though the planets were too often copy-pasta and the big plot hole. It had so much potential and they wasted it. Personally, I think the series should have gone like this:
>ME1 - keep the same
>ME2 - Shepard doesn't die, keep all the characters. Spend game uniting galaxy and putting everyone in a war footing. Need multiple playthroughs to get every species on your side.
>ME3
>You control the war effort - where to attack, which worlds/races to sacrifice to buy time
>Limited amount of time/missions: you can spend them doing military missions to try to beat the Reapers militarily or go exploring looking for ancient weapons/a way to beat them or a mix of both
No.
>>285106196
Mass Effect 2 was a sci-fi game as well. Both are popamole romance simulators. The third game is ign reporters, 2d sprites and shitty animations with a literal jersey shore DLC as the final nail in the coffin. What's your point?
>>285106732
Too bad ME2 was just go get some people to blow some shit up, the end.
And ME3 was what ME2 should of been but done better than ME3
>>285107069
The romance is a tiny, optional thing you can completely ignore.
>>285106310
Nigger that's ME2, except you forgot the dating-sim half of the game. (aka the focus)
>>285106732
I don't get the 'copy-pasta planets' gripe. That's what planets are like.
They're circle-y things floating in space, some are hotter, some are colder, some have funny little organic things crawling around on them, (but not many).
Pre-fab housing is legit- they're *uninhabited* planets after all. The visitors aren't gonna pick up some lumber & mix cement, they're gonna order a kit off of space-ikea that they can assemble for cheap or, shit, just drop from orbit.
>>285106196
The first Mass Effect for me was a Military SF just like Starship Troopers and The Forever War with much Hard Sci Fi as any episode of Star Trek but then once ME2 came the plot change to a Space Western with elements of a Space opera all over more like Star Wars meets Firefly.
I loved the setting and the tone of the first game the possibilities combine with Fantasy elements and the supernatural tone of the Reapers was a cool touch.
But to answer, yes Mass Effect is and still is sci-fi in his core.
>>285106732
Big plot hole?
>>285108018
But it isn't sci-fi anymore, it's just jersey shore space magic now.
>>285108636
>saren, go get the conduit so Sovereign can BTFO of the citadel
>the conduit was just a portal to the citadel
>which as a specter saren had free access to
>and Sovereign and the geth fleet could BTFO and assault the citadel at any time
>>285108835
C-sec would have closed the arms & locked the reaper+geth friends out.
Conduit served as a backdoor for Saren to bring enough geth-friends through to overwhelm C-sec & keep the arms open.
>>285108835
But Saren was declared a traitor so everyone hunted his ass, and they all had pictures and proof of a geth/reaper invasion.
>>285106732
If a ME movie is ever made:
>ME1: keep everything
>ME2: Make it a spy political thriller with Shepard hunting a plot cause by indoctrinated politicians in high levels in The Council. Yes please keep the characters from ME2 but trash that "plot"
>ME3: Please explain the Reapers real agenda and make it open ended End Shepard's story no the Galaxy's story
Fuck I wish they had made a sequel to this game.
>>285108647
You know, you can still have Jersey Shore in Firefly and that still makes the series sci-fi.
>>285109249
Saren had been looking for the conduit before he'd been found out, (beacon on eaden prime).
>>285109385
>>285109258
>explain the Reapers real agenda
That's a horrible idea because anything they think of will always be shit and disappointing.
>>285110019
I bet have never read some of Drew Karpyshyn ideas for the Trilogy ending. The problems with ME3 are really the ending and the exaggerated DLC.
>>285110691
I never actually read his ideas for the ending. What were they?
Romance options-
>ME1: 3
>ME2: 9
>ME3: 15
You faggots endorse this.
>>285110878
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9LeXz298K8
>>285110915
>ME SFM: ∞
>>285110915
15 romances and none of them involve a robot.
I wanted to go to bed, not to stay up and feel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukPN7tB_plY
>>285111513
>>285111513
>>285111468You're cancer.
>>285106732
ME1: Keep the same, but implement new UI from later games and their weapon system (e.g. less but more varied guns rather than more but less varied guns) with weapon mods included.
ME2:
>No thermal clips
>Improved gunplay all around
>No global cooldowns on abilities
>Shepard never dies, Cerberus comes to you begging for aid instead, Miranda and Jacob aren't squadmates but are instead critical NPC's you work with on the Collector issue - can convert them to your cause if you help them with their loyalty missions and show them how fucked Cerberus is by the end of the game
>Cut Grunt, include Wrex, make his character arc be centered on getting him to take charge of the clans to lead Krogans to a brighter future
>Collector's are still main focus of plot, but convincing other species of the Reaper's existence is the primary point of the game. Negotiate, blackmail, convince, and bribe various officials and persons to join your cause - while calling in favours from people you helped in 1.
>By end of the game you should be able to have every major faction getting ready for all out war, Alliance being convinced when you provide evidence of Collector's activities etc.
>Can convince Geth to make contact with Quarians near end of the game, resolving the plot in 3
>Virmire survivor is a squadmate, and Thane/Samara are cut due to their overall irrelevance to the plot - however, they're still characters in the game and exist as potential allies you can sway to your cause by aiding them
>Another Virmire situation can occur during the suicide mission, where a squadmate HAS to die to achieve something crucial to the mission - potentially even the Virmire survivor
ME3:
>Tear it all fucking down and start from the drawing board
>>285112123
>entitlement
My game, my rules only I can have fun!
Nah, nice try though.
>>285107282
This.
Also ME2 was amazing imo.
>>285111513
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6HURErLFV8
>Sorry, no sex. Just cleaned the bar.
>>285106732
>ME2 - Shepard dies and we get to play as Mordin instead
there fixed
>>285112123
daily reminder that you faggots can remove global cooldowns and add useless shit like manual crouching on the PC version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5_InBWKZGU
>Implying you didn't get comfy goosebumps and get giddy like a schoolgirl upon hearing this in ME3 again.
That and the Mass Effect theme are great. I'd say Pragia Base/Purgatory Station has good combat music too, as well as the purgatory club itself.
>>285112868
Daily reminder that we shouldn't have to use mods to fix such shit features in the first place and the PC playerbase is a minority
>>285112123
>Those ideas
Yeah, no.
>>285112906
eh, Purgatory is a mainstream pleb bar.
shit tier music compared to lower afterlife
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjDt3N9H210
>>285112998
But mods are the entire reason to buy Skyrim because vanilla is pure shit with no redeeming qualities
>>285112998
>playing mass effect games on consoles
LOL enjoy your turtle pace combat
>>285113310
>>285112998
Too bad I can't mod the fucking bitch community.
>>285112010
My Shepard was going to bed anything that wasn't human. Got a blue space squid in , a masked space bitch in 2, and I should have gotten to have sex with my spaceship if I wanted to in 3.
>>285113310
We're not talking about Skyrim though?
>>285112123
Sounds ok, though I didn't really fancy the weapon system in 2.
>Virmire survivor is a squadmate, and Thane/Samara are cut due to their overall irrelevance to the plot - however, they're still characters in the game and exist as potential allies you can sway to your cause by aiding them
>mfw
I'm obligated to post this in every ME thread.
>>285112906
>implying I went anywhere near ME3 after the abomination of 2.
>>285110915
>couldn't romance tali in 1
that was the real problem
I thought they were just dating sims with some game mechanics thrown in like Persona.
You're telling me they aren't?
>>285111513
>playing ME2
>come across pressly's datapad and the mako
>this song playing
god dammit I teared up
>>285113578
He mentioned mods and Skyrim is THE game to mod
>>285112906
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POHscfRZty8
Has a real VTMB feel to it doesn't it?
MASS EFFECT ONE
AS IS
MASS EFFECT TWO
DROP SHEP,
DROP THE REAPER (THEY ARE FUCKING STUCK IN DARK SPACE FOR 20 THOUSAND YEARS, FUCK THEM)
CENTER THE GAME AROUND INTER-SPECIES POLITICS
GETHS ARE A HUGE CENTRAL PART
DARK ENERGY AND STUFF
FUCK CERBERUS IN THE ASS
NEW PROTAG SO YOU DON'T RIDE THE SPECTER POON NON STOP
NO COLLECTORS, NO HARBINGERS
NO HEAT CLIPS
MAKO IS GREAT, STILL THERE
ELEVATORS EVERYWHERE!
>>285113810
I'm a massive Talifag and I'm fine with that, it made sense that the non-Asari aliens took longer to get romantically interested in you.
>>285114361
As much as I like this, dropping shep would be a bad idea I think
>You will never play as a young, daring Commander who's recently been placed in charge of the first post-Reaper multiracial starship crew, in charge of re-establishing connection with star systems cut off from the rest of the galaxy
>To boldly go where no one has gone before, and open up new mass effect relays to create new colonies and travel routes.
>You will never butt heads with your Turian XO. She's rough and has experienced the worst of war, against terrorists and the Reapers alike, and disapproves of you being placed in charge over her, but comes to love you like a brother and gives you the advice of a veteran at your most challenging crossroads
>You will never be challenged by the question of whether to bring your krogan scientist on combat missions. He's a truly intimidating, nigh-unstoppable biotic powerhouse, on top of being a krogan, but he wishes to be something productive for civilization and not just a hired gun. He's afraid if he indulges his lust for battle, he'll lose that passion for science and development.
>You'll never grow suspicious of your asari advisor sent by the Council to oversee your mission, and wonder why encrypted signals are being transferred out under her orders, and where they're going.
>You'll never meet your engineering team, a quartet of chattering geth platforms and a young quarian hoping to safeguard these geth, some of the last of their race in all the galaxy after the defeat of the Reapers mysteriously annihilated most of them.
>You will never forcefully recruit a Cerberus Phantom, full of the indoctrinating lies of their former masters, but with no Reapers to serve or be corrupted by, wondering if it's even possible for them to regain their humanity or to make them cooperate with all of these aliens.
>You will never come together as a crew and as friends as you take on bold new threats to life itself as you seek to rebuild the shattered remains of the galaxy.
>You will never play Mass Effect 4: Reconstruction
>>285114361
But the specter poon was vital to the feel of the first game.
What would they replace it with?
And meanwhile what's shepard doing? Dropping the commander would be a rather sudden gear shift.
>>285114547
THAT'S RACIST!
>>285114662
Man, the ME3 endings killed sequel possibility so hard
>>285114662
Good.
I didn't like gameplay in Mass Effect 2 & 3 being restricted to a linear mission-based format. ME1 had the right idea, although environments were pretty empty and dull (although it lead to some cool atmosphere).
Dragon Age Inquisition had some amazing, wide-open locations with all sorts of cool environmental storytelling and details. It was such a huge improvement over the boring scenery and locations in Origins and it actually felt like a three-dimensional world. Imagine if Bioware made the same improvements to a new adventure-oriented Mass Effect game with an emphasis on exploration and heavier RPG/customization elements. No more room after room filled with chest-high walls. Let's see some real, open-world shit.
Can I post my shitty character ideas?
1. One of the Vorcha raised by people in the Citadel. 15 years old, nearing the end of his life. Laments how most of his species are utter fucking niggers and has tried and failed several times to help his people. Really civilized due to his upbringing. Tech specialist and heavy drinker
2. Batarian Medic
Fought during the Skyllian Blitz and the conflicts after. Chomps cigars and gets into passive-aggressive banter with the other human squadmates regularly
3. Quarian Biotic
Exposed to eezo before birth, basically a humanaboo and quotes old westerns occasionally. Outfit would have a few things on it that would confuse him for a human, IE human head shaped helmet, human shaped boots (which he says are remarkably comfortable), carries a holster with a Colt SAA at all times for aesthetics, uses his biotics in conjunction with baseball sized metal balls in combat
4. Ex Alliance Pilot
Former ace pilot but was dishonorably discharged for addiction to Red Sand. All I've really thought of at the moment
The characters are all designed being small scale less powerful characters for a smaller scale story
>>285114662
>Not a single mention of romancing
I like you
>>285114841
Why not have you play someone on the outside of the law? Or, instead, someone who works in the "dark area", like a Spectre, but without the same degree of freedom? An asari justicar, or a salarian STG member. Open the game up to further customisation and let you be an alien now that the stage has been set.
>>285115721
>no a vorcha medic educated by the salarians to be efficient in combat and bit more smart than common vorcha able to explain the culture and society of the vorcha
>>285115721
>shitty character ideas
I feel like everyone who's played Mass Effect has done this. I think that Quarian humanaboo sounds a bit too far-fetched, but I'd know I'd take him on every mission just to hear his dialogue probably. Batarian medic sounds like a cool idea.
Personally, I always wanted to remove Jacob and/or Miranda and instead have Kai Leng be your Cerberus squadmate in ME2. Or just re-write Jacob's boring, pointless character into Kai Leng. It would have lent for some really cool character dynamics in ME3 when he's an antagonist. He could've been the only squadmate who was really "just in it for the money" and didn't give a shit about Shepard or saving people. Maybe you could convince him otherwise or something. I don't know, anything is better than what they gave us.
>>285106196
Not really, I remember it being a space-fantasy game with a few elements of hard sci-fi to add verisimilitude to the universe, but other than that it was Ancient evils, magic blue powers, and designated heroes on a collision with destiny all over the place.
>>285115721
How autistic and / or lonely do you have to be to come up with this kind of shit?
>>285116526
Go away, normalfag.
>>285115643
Nice marketing Bioware...
Don't mind, just keep telling me features about Mass Effect: Reconstruction. Can't wait for the E3 trailer.
>>285116186
Yeah I could see that.
But how would they factor in exploration without too many 'find something' missions?
'Free time' in-between?
