FFXV
>We don't know what the fuck we want this game to be
http://www.siliconera.com/2016/01/12/final-fantasy-xv-will-two-different-battle-modes/
That's okay because anyone who likes this game is a faggot because it's a shit game.
Yeah its obviously not a reaction to all the kneejerk faggots who cant get over the fact that turn based is an outdated system.
>“The equivalent to difficulty level settings in FFXV is a system where you can switch between different battle modes. By having this ability to switch modes, we want to make it so that both players who like action oriented, technical gameplay and also those who want to fight at a slower, more relaxed pace can all enjoy the combat in their own style. This switching system is a key part of the gameplay that we decided to introduce based on the feedback we received from the Episode Duscae demo. We will go into more detail about the system closer to the game’s launch so stay tuned for more information.”
Seems like they are letting people play how they want to
>>323721146
>Will Have Two Different Battle Modes
No you pick something and you refine it you retards.
This is not how you good video game.
>>323721296
>shit game
>unreleased
Fuck off retard
Have they said anything about when the PC version is going to be a thing?
>>323721874
This. It's like old cRPGs made in that awkward period between real time and turn based, that'd have options for both. As a result both were generally pretty fucked up and unbalanced in ways.
Just do one thing and do it well.
>>323721986
5 to 10 years.
>>323721986
>There will be no PC port. We never planned for it. The game is originally developed on the PC first and what we said was how the pre-beta works very smoothly on the PC and now optimizations are being made (just like any beta testing would be like) for the consoles. Please do not misunderstand.
>IF a PROPER PC version is to be made, then many changes have to be made and a lot of things have to be reconsidered before such a move can be made
Maybe in a few years.
They did this in Dissidia also. Why are you mad? They've given themselves a long ass devtime and an extended demo with lots of feedback. I'm sure it'll turn out good. I got the demo just yesterday and I love it.
>>323722565
>I got the demo just yesterday and I love it.
No hope for people like you.
>>323721146
FFXV is sounding like a game that's going to be very unfocused and be a jack of all trades but master of none.
>>323722962
So Crisis Core and Type 0?
>>323721874
>>323722165
except they did and faggots got upset that their precious turn base. If I want to play turn based, I'll play a mobile game.
>>323721631
this
>Chrono Trigger had different battle modes
>Active and wait
>Widely hailed as one of the best RPGs
>FFXV does it
>HURRR IT WILL BE SHIT HURR
>THE GAME ISN'T EVEN OUT BUT I'M GONNA TAKE A SHIT ON IT
>HURRRRRRRR
the only good thing about FF is triple triad
>>323723650
>ggots got upset that their precious turn base
No they got upset at it not being CUHRAYZEE.
If yo're going to do action and not do it well you can fuck right the hell off.
>>323721572
FFI: Turn based
FFII: Turn based
FFIII: Turn based
FFIV: Turn based
FFV: Turn based
FFVI: Turn based ATB
FFVII: Turn based ATB
FFVIII: Turn based ATB
FFIX: Turn based ATB
FFX: Turn based ATB
FFXII: ATB
FFXIII: ATB
FFXV: Action RPG
>B-but dudes it's outdated
A gameplay style never gets outdated you idiot. If people is protesting is because every main game of the series (except MMO's for reasons) had some kind of command based combats.
>>323724450
Turn based is outdated faggot.
>>323724450
>FFIV
>FFV
>Turn based
those were ATB too
>Try to make everyone happy
>End up making everyone mad
SE
>FFXV kun WILL kill himself when FFXV turns out to be total dogshit
can't wait
>>323724450
>FFX: Turn based ATB
Shut up anon.
>>323724065
The demo is out, and it was shit
>>323724515
Xplain me how it's outdated. Because 13 years old like you need to keep pushing buttons at every second?
>>323724450
>broadcasting your stupidity
>this will be the last FF
fucking finally, they clearly have no clue what to do with it anymore
>>323724657
Don't be silly. He's in too deepand makes too much money from SE
>>323724675
Not him, but turn based itself is a little meh for forward planning. Press Turn (from SMT) and ATB are just evolutions of the totally turn based format. Some games pull it off well (Dragon Quest being a prominent main stay of the formula), but others use it as the absolute basics without expanding it (Neptunia)
>>323724671
>The demo is out, and it was shit
>Widely praised upon even for a demo
>Hurr it's shit because I say it is.
Why do people hate on XV so much? It looks miles better than XIII. Just because it isn't turn based/ATB?
>>323725035
>Why do people hate on XV so much? It looks miles better than XIII. Just because it isn't turn based/ATB?
Because
>It's been 10 FUCKING YEARS
and more importantly
>There's a shill here and annoying shills is fun as fuck
>>323724450
Go play Mobius.
>people think something under development for so long is not a fucking Frankenstein monster at this point
>>323721572
>Opera is an outdated music form
here's your (you)
Tell that to everyone that jumped on top if Bravely Default like a ravenous dog.
Demand is king and SE can't do action for shit anymore.
>>323725151
I dunno it just doesn't look that fun. Is that unreasonable? I look at the newer trailers that show off all these weird features and I just think "well, the core game itself just doesn't look fun to play".
>>323725151
>scrapped and restarted like four years ago
It'll be fine
Probably
>>323724450
and its never had a single good turn based combat system
>>323725116
>It's been 10 FUCKING YEARS
When will this meme die? No one would develop a game for 10 years. That shit would've been canceled ages ago.
>>323725116
By that logic no one should like any game since there's always going to be someone who will shill the fuck out of it.
>>323724623
atb is still turn based combat its just a gimmick nothing more
>>323724450
>retard thinks FFVI introduced ATB
>>323724450
>>323725620
Also FFX wasn't ATB
>>323725528
It's just that anon above said that the other games were ATB but didn't say so for IV and V.
Did they finally make the teleport a proper instant Just Cause grappling hook?
>>323722165
Fallout Tactics pulled it off.
>>323725005
The phrase "widely praised" isn't accurate, anon. Only people who are super hyped for this game already are going to pick up the demo. That they'd like it, whatever the fuck it was, is not a surprise. It'd have to be literally unplayable for that not to be the case.
>>323725416
It was being developed on in 2006 (original concept), 2007 (gameplay/concept work), allegedly on hold in 2008-9 (likely concept and design work), worked on in 2010 to present.
10 years.
I'll wait for a video before calling this good or bad. I'd rather they just have one battle system with different difficulties, but this could just be like the Active/Wait system in the older games, or to compare it to another action game. DMC4's Auto mode.
>>323724631
To be fair, /v/ gets mad at everything.
>Fallout has real time and VATS
>Everyone sucks its dick dry
>FFXV has real time and turn based
>TORTANIC 2.0 ITS GONNA FLOP
Y'all think everything's gonna fail, don't you?
>>323725416
Uh, Duke Nukem Forever? TF2? Unless you're splitting hairs between "in development" and "being actively developed". It doesn't really matter what they've been doing, it has been ten years since the game was announced, and nearly as long since the last traditional FF.
Does no one realize the slower, easier combat is due to the Japanese reaction to Duscae? Do you not remember that ATR going over the Duscae poll, and how the #1 Japanese complaint was the difficulty, by a wide margin?
>>323726043
Welcome to /v/
Here is your free orange soda and your 13 year old girl.
>>323725994
>worked on in 2010 to present.
Actually it started full development in 2011 or 2012. Before then some of the XV team helped out with XIII in their spare time and then ARR's development put pretty much everything else on hold.
>>323725416
It was revealed in 2006. It wasn't worked on constantly since then, but it has seen a lot of work before its relaunch as FFXV.
>>323726043
in that case it will be fine since square practically created vats
>>323726285
>full development
What does that even mean? I see this term popping up a lot. Are you implying that concept art, scripting, and drawing up characters isn't development?
>>323726279
>13 year old girl
this ain't /b/, but I'll take that orange soda if anon doesn't want it.
>>323726279
>orange soda
>Not loli juice
Step it up faggot.
>>323726420
its pre development where they make prototypes and concept art
>>323721146
Sounds exactly like SE, yep.
I just don't care about this game anymore. It's taken too long to come out and Final Fantasy XIV is already proving to be a better more hype game with each patch than vaporware XV.
It won't have better combat than Dragon's Dogma so why care?
>>323726510
>pre development
It's still part of the development cycle. What a silly distinction.
>>323721874
They're retarded. They kept the ATB speed setting all the way up to XIII, and it still conflicts with several time based things this setting doesn't affect.
>>323726646
not everything can be solid gold anon
>>323726510
>Prototyping (alpha development) and concepts aren't part of software development
>All this shit just pops up on its own when the programmers come in
>>323726774
you're point?
>>323726876
My point is you're a retard you silly billy
>>323724450
You're missing two games on there anon. Do you know how to count?
>all this bitching and moaning
>y'all are still gonna buy and play it regardless
>>323726956
I never said that programmers weren't apart of pre development you illiterate retard
>>323727027
No, I won't. I sure won't. Eat a dick, anon.
>>323724450
>Being this stupid
It seems to be a consistent trend that people who are complaining about XV have a fundamental misunderstanding of the Final Fantasy series.
IV introduced ATB. X did not have ATB. ATB means that enemies do not have to wait for you to take your turn, but rather for their own invisible meter to fill, thus changing the system to a more action oriented style where quick thinking is valued over tactical planning. Turn-based and ATB are mutually exclusive, you can't be both.
>>323727123
you ain't slick anon
>>323727027
>Implying
I bailed out of FF with FFX-2. That game fucking broke me.
>FF12 announced
>Refuse to get hyped
>It comes out and it's a star wars rip off
>Ignore it
>FF13 announced
>Refuse to get hyped
>It comes out and it's a corridor simulator
>Ignore it
>FF15 announced
>Refuse to get hyped
>Demo comes out and it's boring
>Continue to ignorebut hear there's an autist on /v/ that gets easily baited so visit the threads
>XV has taken so long they can't afford for it to fail
>but all the desperate pandering to everyone means it's nearly impossible for it to actually be particularly good
It's a trainwreck in progress. SE has really been struggling from all the problems with AAA game development the last decade. In some way they epitomize the issues with the Japanese game industry too.
>>323727114
And yet concept/screenwriting/art/characters/etc aren't part of development? They're "pre-development"? These vital parts of development aren't considered part of the development cycle?
You silly billy.
>>323727246
just say the opposite of what he says and enjoy your shitstorm
dead on arrival
>>323727381
when did I say otherwise?
>>323727397
I tend not to bait him, I just enjoy watching.
>>323727465
this autism again you fucking do this in every thread can you just get a life or something
>>323726671
The development cycle encompassed everything from inception to release.
Full development is when they're like, actually making the game happen. Syory drafts, character designs, base concepts for gameplay, teaser trailers, that's all pre-development.
Full development is like when you're actually making the engine and doing models and animations and making the game come to life from the ideas in pre-development.
>>323727640
I said that it was apart of pre development I never said that it wasn't apart of full development you illiterate cum dumpster
>>323726043
Except VATS is a shitty gimmick and doesn't comprise the core bulk of gameplay, Having dual modes means that both will be unrefined at best.
>>323724450
>A gameplay style never gets outdated
Tales of Symphonia.
It was great at the time, but...
>>323727967
whats your point exactly I never said otherwise all that I said was that pre development consists of first drafts concept art and prototypes
>>323727967
so did you even have a point in the first place or what?
>>323726172
Yeah DNF, & XV were being developed in spurts when they felt like it. But the way /v/ would tell you, the game has been in full active development for a decade, & SE spent 9 digits on the game already.
>>323726774
Prototyping is a completely different thing from alpha development.
Prototyping is when you use some shit like game maker or unreal engine or even just make mockup animations in blender to showcase gameplay and then you test to see if it's fun or even just feasible.
Alpha development is when you have most of the base of the game done, you just need to refine the engine, remove bugs, add QA, finish polishing artwork and levels and do some other shit like maybe finish a couple of areas or tie in a few additional quests.
You prototype before you actually "develop" the game, usually it's used to show it to executives and higher ups to get a greenlight with the project, then you get assigned resources and a team of people to start actually working on the actual game.
>>323728058
that's retarded next you'll tell me that a game can't have a great multiplayer and single player
>>323727465
XV-kun if you are here, I have a request. Give me every single trailer and preview of XV, starting with Versus XIII. Either in a download link or just a load of youtube links.
>>323728779
You're just as autistic if you bothered to post this, you know.
>>323728895
Nah, pretty sure scrolling through youtube comments just to make that collage for a image board is pretty fucking autistic.
>>323728895
Not really.
>>323728779
>>323727592
I feel you.
15 is still only confirmed for PS4 still or have i missed something?
>>323726765
But I can only get off to gold now.
>>323729924
its on the xbone too
>>323729924it's on Xbone too
>>323730092
>>323730129
ty, guess unless it gets announced for PC like within 4 weeks of coming out i'll just get it on PS4
>>323727027
Joke on you Is stopped buying FF at FF12.
>>323726195
Didn't everyone else complain that it was too easy?
>>323726043
It's not just /v/, it's the way Final Fantasy fans are. If it doesn't play like whatever their favorite Final Fantasy game played like, it WILL be shit.
Personally I just wanted difficulty settings, but the action/casual mode might not be a bad thing.
>>323729623
Forgot pic because google is fucking SHIT at coding and optimizing captcha. Kills the internet when trying to upload sometimes and need to reload in a whole new tab to get it to work again.
>>323721146
This is on the level of Runescape.
>>323730803
Only europeans and americans though. Japs still think the game is too hard. And SE being a jap company, cannot ignore their people's complains and decided to change the combat
>>323721631
fuck yes.
The alternative was to have pleb combat only. They added this so that people who don't suck dick at video games can still enjoy it. They're not pandering to casuals, this option is them pandering to US. Well, me anyway. I don't know about you faggots.
>>323735164
>King PlebPlebPleb fag calling something else plebian
Good lord Gladio.
>>323721146
I really hope I can walk on top of the arch in OP's pic
>>323727465
>youtubers who's first game was VII
>relevant
You guys are all fucking cancer.
This is the worst chan.
>>323724450
>X with ATB
>XII and XIII not turn based
lol wtf
>>323721874
>game isin't even out yet
>Telling this to people who probably have been making videogames as a career and some who have done it probably half of their life.
Comming from my own experience, I think this is a great move.
You faggots have no idea what kind of shit they have to deal with. It's not even outside feedback.
It's the fact that when you work on something for so long, You start to become unsure of your self on if something is good or not.
This has got to be the toughest part of the project as far as combat goes.
And by the looks of things, Nomura is really the only guy to get this shit right.
Whats even worse is that they are now giving you the option and you fags are still bitching about it.
This place keeps getting further and further down the shitter.
Did they fix the action gameplay yet? Last time I played it the game had less going on than Kingdom Hearts which really shouldn't be the case.
>more gameplay choices and systems
>turn the news into bad thing
As expected.
>>323737693
No one knows what they turned into now.
>>323738691
Final Fantasy fanboys are the Star Wars fans of video games.
>>323737336
>>323738691
>Having no focus or confidence
>A good thing
