is this worth getting if i haven't played a game in the series since red and blue?
>>323205967
As a longtime fan I think it's one of the worst games in the series.
If you haven't played a game since Genwun, here are my recommendations:
Gold/Silver/Crystal are a direct sequel to RBY and evenlet you go back to Kanto, really similar to the originals but improved.
FireRed andLeafGreen are remakes of RBY, really faithful but done in Gen 3's engine, which changes a lot of stuff. If you want to play a "newer" game without too much unfamiliarity play that.
There are other games that I like more, but if you want an easy-to-get-into game those two are your best bets. HeartGold and SoulSilver are really good remakes of GSC, too. After that go crazy and play whatever you want, but I would avoid getting XY just because Z (every game has a third version that improves upon things) should be coming out this year.
>>323206890
>le hating 6th Gen meme
Also move BW to shit tier, BW2 can stay though.
>>323205967
Absolutely not.
>>323207159
Throwing "le" in front of something and calling it a meme isn't a counterargument.
>>323205967
this game is trash.Didnt even bother finishing it.
5th gen is still best gen
>>323205967
I got Y because I hadn't played pokemon since blue and I was curious. I can tell you I will never play a pokemon game again.
>>323205967
>reading this thread as someone who literally JUST bought Pokemon Y
I-it isn't that bad, is it bros?
>>323207769
Why didn't you listen? You could have prevented this, and now it's too late.
>>323207769
Nah it isn't, it's decent, and i fonud it really good. Pro-Tip don't use the share Exp. never ya hear me??
>>323206890
There is no bad Pokemon games and "Worst" is subjective (at least so far). X/Y is a good start if you want to go back to the franchise and learn (A lot) of the new additions and changes.
Well, you're probably just trying to shitpost by posting that forced "Pokemon ranking" shit along with >>323207341
>>323207769
It's a meme. Gen 6 does have some problems but I'm pretty sure most people are just bandwagonning.
>>323208103
>stop disliking what I like: the post
Try harder, faggot.
>>323207769
Why did you buy it? You know 3DS piracy is a thing on all systems right now this second, right?
And I mean it's not like it's completely unplayable, but my big issues with it are:
>easiest games in the series by far, in a series of easy games, they throw a ton of overpowered shit at you without balancing the game around it
>rivals are the most annoying shits I've ever seen in a JRPG, full stop
>probably a weird complaint but there are too many Pokémon you can catch, makes the region feel like a zoo instead of something natural
>region itself has some weird design choices, like a huge snowy mountain in a random spot but one route away it's perfect weather
There are things I did like, I think the villain team is alright and I think it has the best-designed set of new Pokémon we've ever had, but it ranks really low. I can agree with >>323208103 in that there aren't any "bad" Pokémon games and I had fun with it, but there are so many games I would recommend someone play before XY.
>>323208292
Wow nice comeback buddy.
play one of the DS games, there's a good chance they will be remembered as where pokemon peaked
>>323208313
Also what >>323208068 said is right, turn off the Exp. Share the moment you get it, if you turn it off you can have at least a little fun with the battles instead of it being a complete blow-through.
>>323208419
Thanks, can't say the same about you, unfortunately.
Gen 6 is easily becoming the worst in the series, two horrible games in row.
If you'd want to play Pokemon start from the originals and head up, playing the definitive versions.
Yellow - Crystal - Emerald - FrLg - Plat - Hgss - BW - BW2
Play gen 6 to get an opinion on them, right now everyone seems split.
>>323208313
I played BW2 last year and really enjoyed it, so I decided to wait for a good deal on a 3DS. Got one for $50 yesterday, bought Y digitally today. I made a thread in /vp/ and they said X/Y was better than the Gen 3 remakes so that's what I did...
>>323208508
Is Exp. Share that broken?
Should I just sell the 3DS and break even at this point?
>>323205967
I had a lot more fun on oras. If you want to make a good team for online they finally made it so that someone without autism can do it.
>>323208772
>Should I just sell the 3DS
How the fuck did you get to that conclusion?
>>323208772
Don't sell the 3DS, there are good games for it that you can easily pirate. If you haven't opened Y you could return it, if not then might as well play it.
Also I think the Gen 3 remakes edge out XY just because I like RS more than XY. The reason the Gen 3 remakes are hated is because they include almost no content from Emerald and even cut out RS content for no reason but to casualize it, like the Safari Zone is gone.
>>323205967
If you're into online battling it's great, breeding mechanics have never been so straightforward. The game itself falls flat; areas feel sterile and railroaded and battles are never a challengethe only other trainer to have 6 pokemon is the league champ. That said I liked the 3D models, pokemon amie and minigames. It's fun to play through once but I wouldn't expect to put more than 50-60 hours into it unless you get into breeding or battling.
The Exp. share let you level your whole team without having to grind to much or having everyone expect your one or two main pokemons fail behind.
That's a good thing in theory, but they didn't adjust the game in consequence, so there is no real difficulty if you use it.
I think you all don't realise, how important 6th gen was to the series and the innovations that improved and keep Pokémon fresh without denaturing the atmosphere. We will all see how this gen will be praised in the future, for what it had done to the license from stagnating.
>>323209140
>If you're into online battling
Unless you want to go to like actual official tournaments, why not just use Showdown? I know Smogon is sometimes smothering but if you really don't like those rules to the point of refusing to use it there are also VGC ladders.
>>323205967
It's pretty good. People will bitch about anything. The story is a bit weird, but not as bad as black and white. if Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire are amazingly fun if you played emerald as a kid.
>>323209772
>if Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire are amazingly fun if you played emerald as a kid.
This is bait. If you played Emerald as a kid you'll dislike the games more than if you hadn't since Emerald had features that didn't make it into the remake. You should've said RS that way I could assume you just had shit taste.
>>323209570
>being this delusional
People will shit on XY and ORAS the same way they shit on Diamond and Pearl because they're literally the same thing, AKA rushed pieces of shit.
>>323209772
>Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire are amazingly fun if you played emerald as a kid.
You clearly didn't.
>>323209772
As someone who has over 1000 hours on emerald Omega ruby and Alpha Sapphire are the most dissapointing things I ever experienced in my entire life not even joking
imo, cons
>too fucking linear
>too much handholding
>almost zero postgame unless you're a pokefag
pros:
>a lot of pokemon
>there aren't many new pokes so this gen didn't made national pokedex much worse
>mega evolutions are fun
>more customization/socialization
i'm not a big pokemon fan, but have played games from every gen. It was overall a fun experience, but after you clock ~40 hours there's literally nothing to do
only get it if you don't have other pokemon games to play
The first ten hours or so of XY are absolutely magical. There are so many pokemon to catch, and so much general content up to the second badge or so, its amazing. You can easily spend literal hours wandering between the first and second gyms. And then the game just starts sending you from gym to gym and it becomes a lot less exciting
>>323205967
My perspective, yes. I'd probably do ORAS though.
You know what this place is like, I wouldn't take these fags too seriously. Honestly they're great games. Much too easy if you can play at all competently, but great fun and very pretty otherwise. Most fun I've had with pokemon since gen 3 (the gen I started with).
Especially now you can get these games for free.
>>323205967
I had fun with them.
>>323209875
>>323210073
>>323210136
Well I'm also not an autist who is a critic about Pokémon. I enjoyed going back through and recognizing shit from emerald. Sure it was much easier, but that isn't going to stop me from enjoying a remake of a game I played a lot of as a kid.
Just grab Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire or wait for Z. You'll get a much better legendary stock pile that way.
>>323210136
I am totally not, the 3d initiation to the series was a hard thing to do and i was one of the first bashing X/Y knowing he game would have CG designs and megas but it turn'd out well
>Also 4th Gen best gen
>>323210568
>and recognizing shit from emerald.
You mean nothing?
>>323210652
>I am totally not
Your point?
>>323207769
Good lord, why didn't you just wait for Z?
Even ORAS puts X&Y to shame.
>>323209728
>why not just use Showdown?
Showdown is the only way I play Pokemon now. I've accepted that Game Freak will never make a world worth exploring and I will never be young enough to look past it again. Besides, not having to grind up to battle levels is a fucking god send.
>>323210568
>and recognizing shit from emerald
Yeah, I loved seeing the Frontier in 3D.
And all the added locations like the Mirage Tower and Desert Underpass.
The best feature of Emerald was the way they changed double battles to more naturally occur, I'm really glad they brought that back too.
Oh wait.
Anyone calling ORAS an Emerald remake never played Emerald.
>>323205967
Play Black/White instead.
>>323210894
You mean black and white 2
>>323210752
emerald music is in the sky pillar and they mention some frontier brains
thats fucking it
anyone who calls ORAS an emerald remake is a delusional idiot >>323210568
>>323210753
I dropped ORAS after a few hours but I enjoyed X. Maybe I was oversaturated.
And I'm still not convinced we get a Z-edition after we got nothing last year.
>>323210836
Not him but the only thing of worth in Emerald was the Frontier.
The rest barely counts as worthwhile content.
>>323211019
>And I'm still not convinced we get a Z-edition after we got nothing last year.
The new Zygarde forms have already confirmed that something is in development at the very least. You shouldn't have bought XY.
>>323211181
Did anyone actually beat battle frontier as a kid? The only place I could get through was the seviper building.
>>323211392
It's okay. I won't buy a Z edition regardles. A few more Megas and forms aren't worth it.
>>323211462
I think the factory was the only one I didn't get the gold medal for because it was RNG ridden and you literally couldn't prepare.
>>323210975
They also have a really good remake of the Frontier Brain theme, but you're completely right.
>>323211462
As a kid, no, put hundreds of hours in and only got like two gold symbols.
As an adult I cleared it all though.
>>323211462
I beat the battle pike and fought the rest of the frontier brains but lost
Nowadays I've cleared most of them aside from the tower, because I'd rather do the subway in BW2 since the battle themes great.
>>323211592
>A few more Megas and forms aren't worth it.
If they didn't release it last year expect some significant additions and story changes beyond new forms and megas. Shit like that takes less than a year to create if ORAS is anything to go on.
>>323208103
>There is no bad Pokemon game
Nice fucking meme.
You people put this series on too high of a pedestal when they're sub-par on average.
>>323211904
Did you actually have to do some form of ev training in order to clear them or just abuse typing?
>>323212216
the latter, ev training is a total pain in the ass in earlier gens
>>323205967
No, you should play Silver/Gold remakes, then Ruby/Saphire/Emerald (The GBA originals), and only then play X/Y.
>>323207769
Ask yourself just one question.
Do you like POKEMON?
If you like POKEMON and having access to a lot of POKEMON (about 600) and having the freedom to use whatever kind of strategy you want then this is the best game ever.
Also ignore the faggots who bitch about exp share and "difficulty". I didn't use exp share and i still destroyed everyone.
>>323212551
Ah, I never got far due to my reliance on legendaries. Hell my greatest achievement in emerald to me was raising a salamance.
>>323212794
>playing RS when ORAS is superior by a large margin
Emerald is okay but just for the Frontier really.
>>323212979
>catching Bagon
I miss that about pokemon.
The Internet has ruined everything about the game.
>>323212798
>I didn't use exp share and i still destroyed everyone
That's the point retard, the game is easy even without the exp share.
>>323213593
Heads up there anon, every game is that easy. If you ever had difficulty it was either due to bad mechanics or player error.
For example Whitney.
>>323213593
What do you fucking expect from a fanbase who has 20 years of pokemon experience? Come on man.
