As an expert video game player (I have completed what many consider to be the pinnacle of challenging video gaming, the Souls series, multiple times) I can honestly say that this game is completely full of artificial difficulty and it's almost impossible to kill a monster without dying one or two times in the end game.
I'm High Rank 7 right now and I'm pretty sure it doesn't get harder than this since I die in one hit to any beam shot by those big monsters Akantor/Ukanlos and I also get one shot by Gore Magala blasts and Tigrex tramples. Seriously, fuck this stupid game with bad controls and artificial difficulty everywhere.
Git gud
>>322660761
you forgot your obligatory spoiler at the end of your rant.
so what weapon should I try next? I already have end game sets for bow, lance and HH.
>>322660761
I get pretty assblasted by this game myself. I love it, and its addicting, but I always find myself just getting pissed and not actually having a good time. When they get you against the wall, and your camera kinda' freaks out, and they end up hitting you twice because you can't see shit, and then your character is dizzy and can't move. And you just know that monster is going to hit you a third time and that will be the one to kill you.
Yeah, but I'm still addicted. I'm rank 7 as well, and I haven't beaten the Akantor yet because I haven't played a game yet where half my team doesn't leave.
>>322662121
need help?
Just go online as an insect glaive shitter who builds mounting and just mount the entire fight. Never get hit, only mount, and help out the people carrying.
Also if you think 4 is hard, try Freedom Unite.
>>322660761
I can never tell if you guys are serious about this or just starting a Monster Hunter thread.
Git gud, don't get hit.
>>322662871
On my phone, don't have my game on me. Thanks for the offer though.
>>322660761
So with the new 3DS down grade and piracy, where can I download some MHX and its English patch?
>>322666031
>new 3DS down grade
???
>>322666218
Check the catalog, they're having constant threads about it
>>322666031
Have you tried searching for MHX and english patch?Try the MH general on /vg/, they probably have the links there.
Just googling for shit like this makes me paranoid I'm gonna download something bad
I'll check the general though
/v/ is the only place where there isn't a strong anti-4U sentiment.
>>322667328
I thought this was the only place where people would agree 4U was a bit of a step down from the previous game
>>322667657
That would be /mhg/
Recently, they had yet another tirade about how the series lost sight of whats doing.
>>322667049
I'm not even going to try the new downgrade thing until at least a week has passed, for the same reason. I don't want to break my 3DS.
>>322667657
But aside from monster choices, mounting and having a re-fillable LS meters, this game beats 3U.
If you're so good post your professional gaming federation medallion
otherwise git gud faggot
>>322667328
You forget /tv/
>>322667953
The maps are shittier in 4U too
And verticality was pushed way too fucking hard
>>322668129
>the lava area is literally just a reskin of an already bad map
I was massively disappointed
>>322668129
Have you tried SnS
>>322668129
I still enjoyed 4U more, but I definitely have to give you that one. I like the Castle Schrade or whatever it was called and the ice place was acceptable, but otherwise 4U's maps sucked.That being said, would anyone be interested in hunting on 4U right now?
Tips for an aspiring bowman?
>>322660761
i want to do a run with 3 others.All in the Link gear.
>>322667657
4U is the best title since FU for me, never understood this opinion.
>>322669709
Critical Distance. Learn it, and stay in that range.
this is fucking pasta, dont reply you dumbfucks
>>322663848
Idunno about you Anon, but I go online hard in mounting, and still doing more than my fair share of damage while breaking every single body part.
>>322669028
If you make a room, I'll join. I'd be fine with hunting anything
>>322660761
Dude I'm a crowned g rank, you'll get there soon, also how was stygian zinogre
So I'm trying to learn Gunlance and a buddy of mine told me to never pick a gunlance with a Wide shot type and if I did people would hate me online for it. What did he mean by this? Is it that bad?
>>322669756
>all Link
But why?
Dude Akantor and ukanlos is suppose to kill you, the worst one was gravios when he heat beams me and I deal with it, enjoy the game and get good
>>322674347
Never do wide shot on online because since it spreads out it will hit the other players wailing on them causing theme to flinch and loose there combo, I'm looking at you long sword users
>>322674347
Wide shot type is pretty shitLong shot is best
This copy pasta never gets old does it
Im in high rank caravan in MH4U and just started working on some bowguns. Have Gravios Roar so far and I'm really surprised how much the deviation doesn't bother me on it.
Trying to figure out a good armor set though. Just working on Gravios S for the recoil for now. Any suggestions?
Now that everyone has access to cfw you have no excuse to not play MHX.
>tfw no mh4u on vita
>>322660761
>As an expert video game player I have completed what many consider to be the pinnacle of challenging video gaming, the Souls series, multiple times.
This is bait right?
>>322674568
>>322674817
So wide shot gunlances are the equivalent of a guy with the name "Sephiroth" using a longsword or a Frenchman with an insect glaive?
So which type is better? Long or Normal?
>>322676148
Long for the win
>>322676031
I have missed this meme
>>322674347
Basically when you go online you should be considerate with friendly fire, for example not spamming R with Long Sword or doing the horizontal swing with GS or anything that can send people flying in the air.
Wide Shot is more likely to do it than any other type of shell, plus most people prefer Long over Wide anyways. Feel free to make them and use them offline, or even online, just be aware of who is around you.
>>322675637
explain
>>322675637
I guess we still needs private headers to play multi even if it's for japanese servers?
>>322676031
Don't worry we have frontier!
>>322677506but anon, I don't have cfw on my vita
So I've been playing 4U on and off the last couple days and can't settle between a few weapons I really like.
Any input on the glaive, swaxe and charge blade?
>>322669709
Exploit elemental weaknesses and learn the enemies weak point and try to get good and consistently hitting it at critical distance.
>>322678413
all meme weapons desu.
>>322678273
Why would you need that?
>>322678413
>Glaive
Grab Extracts, priority should go for the red one.
>Swax
I got nothing.
>Charge Blade
Learn to Guard Point.
>>322678413
Don't listen to >>322678491
All weapons are viable and worthwhile and Insect Glaive holds the records for Solo 140 Guild Quests.
Id probably say just keep playing with them. I like to have a large variety stashed away anyways.
Ok guys I have the full set of star knight and kushala, depends on what quest I go on, I also have a Chaos gore staff and a Brachydios switch axe all those weapons are fully upgraded. What's your builds guys
>>322678883
>>322679081
Thanks guys, guess I'll toy with em all a bit as I go. See if any of them really meld with me once I'm not killing pansy monsters.
>>322679967
Something that helped me tremendously with CB is realizing you can change the Start button to kick in the options menu. What this does is it makes it so if you press Start while idle in sword mode you will instantly GP (if you whiff you will transform to axe mode). You can also press start in the middle of you sword combos to GP as well.
>>322660761
I want to make another character. So far, I have experience with GS and SB, but now I want to learn to use a good ranged weapon. What would be better and why, HB, LB or bow?
>>322680497
>SB
what?
Anyways, bow is the easiest to get into for blademasters. HBG and LBG both require a lot more knowledge of all the shot types and choosing the correct gun for the job.
>>322661505
Lance and HH user as well. I had a blast with the teo sns and hbg. Also can't go wrong with gs
>>322680760
which weapon is more fun, then?
>>322680497
LBG has pretty lackluster damage and is only really useful for status spam in a group
Bow is pretty hard to use and hard to be effective with
HBG is a DPS monster
>>322681026
Completely subjective. I main bow though and have around 2500 hunts in 4U and ~3000 in 3U so I'm biased towards that.
Bow = most mobility
LBG = Best status and better mobility than HBG. Don't listen to retards who say it's only for status though, you have to capitalize on it's ability to rapid fire (multiple shots at the price of one) elemental shots and exploit those elemental weaknesses.
HBG = Least mobility, biggest damage. Hardest to use solo for most but it's one of the heaviest hitters in the games.
I'm obliterating everything as a charge blade player and I want to use something else
Can I use HH for solo?
Are there any chances that MHX comes to the west at some point? Like an MHXU?
Debating whether I should play the fantranslation once downgrading the 3DS works or not
>>322681524
>Getting KOs with rapid crag LBGs
Feels so good.
>>322681742
>Can I use HH for solo?
Yes.
>>322681742
Yes. HH is not just a support weapon. Your buffs work on yourself as well. It doesn't get the top tier kill times but unless you're a speedrunner you won't miss those extra 30 seconds.
>>322681810
I have a video of that but I can't post it because I'm on my phone and it's over 4my
>also you could tell your gonna have a good time on monster hunter when you get the great jaggi armor at the beggining
>>322680497
I never played ranged in the earlier games, tried hbg when I was around hr300. And I had so much fun I'm considering changing it to my main weapon for mhx
>>322681742
Yes. You can use any weapon solo, but I'd like to see more HH users out there so go for it. Just remember your job is to apply buffs while fighting, not buffing from a distance.
>>322681802
It's possible but we won't know for sure for a little while I'd say. If MHXG gets announced for Japan then it's very likely we get an Ultimate version. If not, then I doubt we'll get it.
>>322681810
I like how the explosion is delayed, so there have been many times where I hit Rajang with crag shots and then it KO's him while he's in mid air doing his sonic ball attacks.
>>322682043
>>322682098
thank you guys, I don't mind killing it somewhat slowly if I'm having fun
>>322682505
yeah, that's one thing I love from mh4u compared to mhfu, you can fight while gaining musical notes
>>322682505
One of my best crag KOs was during the 4U demo against Tetsu.
He goes down, grabs a boulder, I hit his face with the crag, he jumps up the slam the boulder down on one of the dudes I was playing with, crag blows up mid-air, KO and stagger, and Tetsu falls.
Total luck shot, but damn if it wasn't cool.
So how are you all enjoying MHO?
>>322682881
And the wroggi joins the pic
>>322683401
Would be better if I could read anything. Nice to see MH in HD for once though.
>>322683401
Mho?
>>322683401
Too busy playing the better PC MH game.
>>322660761
High rank is nothing. Complain again when you start facing level 140s (kill them without hame)
>>322682881
Have you posted this image before? I swear I recognize that Wroggi.
>>322683792
Jho's retarded cousin.
>>322683792Such a lust for HD graphicsMHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO?
>>322678413
Use Greatsword. It's the only weapon worth using.
>GS Masterrace
>>322684169
Probably, it was a friend of mine that got that pause screen on accident and it's a personal favorite of mine just due to the expression on the Wroggi's face.
I also have the ioprey of discontent, but he's less entertaining.
>>322660761
Please just kill yourself.
Video games by definition are artificial difficulty because they are artificial. everything in them is fake. I'm sorry you started to struggle at HR 7 and gave up since you don't know what to do, but nigger we don't care. Fuck off and blog somewhere else.
>>322667657
Are you kidding
4U is literally the best MH title by far.
>>322682881
That's mh3u because wroggi isn't in mh4u
>>322684539
The picture is Portable 3rd.
It's not linked with the story in the slightest.
>>322684680
Oh ok
>>322684438
Nah. I enjoy it a lot but I hate the roster of monsters and the maps suck dick. Weapon balance also isn't as good as it was in 3U. Guild quest farming isn't fun at all and free hunt was way better than expeditions.
I still play the shit out of it and don't think it's a bad game just not the best MH game in case any 4U babbys are taking offense to this post.
>almost a year since 4U's release
>still running into people who don't know how armor skills work
>in G rank
How
HOW
>>322685254
It's very scary
>>322685140
>Weapon balance also isn't as good as it was in 3U.
Oh, you're retarded, nevermind.
I thought you had some sense in you.
>>322685254
The power of the carry.
It helps if you view them as court jesters or something.
So MH thread?
>>322685140
>Weapon balance also isn't as good as it was in 3U.
>weapon balance
>in 3U
My sides are covered in slime
>>322685421
I'm not strictly talking in terms of damage you know
>>322685610
>Sides covered in slime
That sounds like it won't end well.
>>322685673
>damage was balanced
>in 3U
I dont even need to give you a shovel, you are just digging like a mad man.
>>322685254
It's almost funny really, and it's at it's worst in urgent quests.
The concentration of horrible players is downright silly, it's a good thing I soloed nearly all of my urgents I couldn't imagine having to throw my lot in with those guys everytime.
>>322685913
Are you really that retarded? I said I wasn't talking about damage you retarded faggot
>>322685140
>Weapon balance also isn't as good as it was in 3U
You could literally kill any monster with record times with nothing but slime, elemental damage was irrelevant, status was near impossible to get effective and most weapons were utterly useless underwater. There was even a weapon that was so broken you could literally stunlock most monsters to death with it.
3U wasnt weapon balanced in the slightest.
>>322684438
It's best in terms of mechanics, but some of the maps suck and the monster roster is kind of shitty. They took out all of the most of the 3rd gen monsters and pushed all the shitty 1st and 2nd gen wyverns, which still all share nearly the same moveset, still have extremely boring subspecies, and don't even do anything interesting with the new terrain.
Got the game a while ago, should I just play through all of the caravan stuff before I do the multiplayer? Currently at the Shagaru Magala
>>322686150
You need to go replay 3U and realize how shitty a game it is in comparison to 4U.
>>322686030
>Duo'ing with a friend
>He didn't put a password on the room
>Say "Haha, we'll get one of those URGENT PLZ" people
>Do a quest
>Come back and Hernaldo is in the hall
>"URGENT PLZ"
I-I-It was just a joke.
WHO MHO HERE?
>>322678413
>Any input on the glaive
Here, you want to got to Bibobrix/ladytower
That said it's up to your style, I have a Speed focused poisonn weapon and works great
Try to get orbs as soon as you can, red gives power, white+orange gets you protection against most roars so it helps a lot, Try to not abuse mount until the monster is in rage mode or once you need some space since it takes longer and longer to achieve.
personally Kinsects with high attack work great I've killed monsters with kinsect spam
It's all trial and error, try to give them enough stamina until you are comfy with it, same with speed it will entirely depend on you. some people like to be closer tna others and need more speed and stamina or need just speed.
Basically play with the stats a while, keep power higher than the other stats. elements in them also work, giving the insect even more elemental damage is not a bad idea
>>322683913
>still playing MH DOS ENGINE EDITION 2001 ONLINE
How embarassing
>>322686271
I feel that the game is best played in balance, freely switching between online and solo. Do multiplayer alongside caravan or when farming for a drop, but stop when there's a new monster you haven't killed solo.
>>322686408
Is it any good?
>>322686612
It has an old world charm.
>>322686752
Its like Monster Hunter
But with no challenge and all the downsides to having a cash shop in an MMO.
>>322686790
Oldworld as in rehasing the same fucking mechanics from the god damn PS2 era. I don't mind it, but after playing 3 years of MHF then trying literally any one of the new ones it's like night and day.
>>322686401
Underwater and Slime were awful for sure, but I personally enjoy the monster variety more.
If they just cut all the pointless 1st and 2nd gen subspecies and just had some 3rd gen monsters, 4U would be GOAT.
>>322686752
Grinding in MH can already be a pain in the as if you get unlucky with drops
Now imagine that 10 times worse because a pay2win shop exists
>>322686128
>>322685610
Not being as good as 3U doesn't mean that 3Us balance was perfect. Slime was undeniably OP as fuck, but every weapon had access to it. In 4U there are weapons that are just undeniably better in every way than others thanks to a variety of factors.
>>322686881
High Rank hunts are harder than mainline rank hunts, it's pretty close to MHF in terms of how it scales to multiple people.
The hitboxes are far and away much more fair than anything the other Capcom teams have made somehow. Probably due to them doing it through Cryengine.
>>322686992
MHX added back a lot of them, we just need to wait another year
That said I never found underwater combat that bad, yes it was annoying but not as bad as some people make it to be
>>322687042
>In 4U there are weapons that are just undeniably better in every way than others thanks to a variety of factors.
Which is exactly the same as 3U. Did you even play the game? Or are you only defending 3U because it was on Wii U?
>>322687042
>In 4U there are weapons that are just undeniably better in every way than others thanks to a variety of factors.
That has been a problem in literally EVERY SINGLE MH GAME, 3U and 4U are both equally shit in that regard.
>>322686881
>>322687007
Did you ever look at the cash shop before trying to use it as a reason for why the ticket system exists? No really, take a look at the cash shop properly and you'll notice that the only non-cosmetics are things you could craft yourself right now.
Not even defending the fact it exists, but there is nothing pay2win about that or even the VIP option, because none of it helps your progression and none of it does anything about the ticket system or exp cap.
>>322687007
In terms of grind MHO pales in comparison to MHF for sheer pay2win mechanics.
Fucking MHF grind is mortifying
>>322687042
>In 4U there are weapons that are just undeniably better in every way than others thanks to a variety of factors.
All the weapons are good, people that complain are muhtimekills faggots that just want to add a e-penis sucking factor
Only thing is the IG having easy access to mounting
>>322660761
MH4U is a fucking terrible game but man HR7 is like the halfway point. You still have G1, G2, G3, Bronze Crown, Silver Crown, Gold Crown, and retarded lv140 Guild Quests still ahead of you.
I have put 375 hours into this piece of shit game ask me anything about how terrible it really is.
>>322687136
It's really weapon dependent, some weapons just have horrible compatibility with water.
>>322686948
Eh, I find it's taken those mechanics and polished them to a mirror shine instead of reinventing the wheel the like the mainline ones, which isn't bad, like HH is outright better 3rd gen onwards, but on the other hand Frontier Gunlance makes the later Gunlances look like pop guns.
Like I might just be brain addled at this point and time but the G and HC versions of the old monsters are fantastic since they didn't try and outright change what they are but instead fixed the problems and gave them a bit more bite.
It's my top MH in terms of just fun to time spent. But it's still got it's huge share of issues.
>>322687339
Only HR grind, item and money grind is easy as pie.
The biggest factor against MHO right now is simply the lack of content, if it wasn't gated as much as it is, you'd have people clearing the game in a week easy.
It has potential, but compared to most MH, it lacks a ton of content. Even now we don't even have the full armory of weapons from the original. Lacking Lance and Heavy Bowgun.
>>322687161
Only played it on 3ds. And I'm not trying to "defend" 3U, the original point was that I don't find 4U to be the pinnacle of the series. Even if weapon balanced is fucked in both games I still don't think 4U is better.
>>322687291
Exactly. I'm not saying the balance in 3U was amazing or perfect, I'm just saying it's not as shitty as 4Us.
>>322660761
I have seen this copy pasta three times already. Step it up /v/.
>>322687680
>I'm just saying it's not as shitty as 4Us.
But thats entirely fucking wrong because not only are entire weapon groups outshined by others but elements/status being worthless and slime being broken utterly fuck over all the weapons. You are objectively wrong, 4U weapon balance isnt great but its miles ahead of 3U.
>>322687680
>I still don't think 4U is better.
Well I guess there has to be some poor idiot who has to like 3U
>>322687409
The Bow, Gunlance, Lance, Longsword, and Sword-n-Shield are shit-tier weapons that require a team for carrying. There are no exceptions of weapons within those weapon types. Even the highest attack + purple sharpness rusted weapons in those weapon types only match standard craftable rare9/10 weapons in other weapon types.
4175
>>322687317
had more cashshop stuff in Frontier back in my day when premium ticket hunts were a thing, not even sure if that still is but the chinese version seems to give almost nothing but more traps, potions and shit for free if you pay in. The fucking VIP system does nothing for you aside from give you more storage, let you hunt a couple more times. Even the maximum pay in is a fucking ripoff. Paying in for a whole year topkek, get 3 more pages of storage goy.
You don't even get gear or anything from the xp shops, all just cosmetic shit that's not even permanent.
>>322688125
Poor bait is poor
>>322687865
We're obviously not going to agree on this. Again, my original point is that I don't think 4U is the best game in the series. Even if I conceded the weapon balance was better in 4U I still wouldn't think it's the best game.
>GS in 4U
>my only two options are farm black fatalis g-rank or level 140 rajangs
>nobody in the world needs or wants to do either
>>322688282
True facts are true
>>322688405
hame farming dude. all hame rooms do is 140 rajang.
>>322687649
That's to be expected, though. I mean, that's something anyone who ever asks for a MH MMO would surely expect. Frontier exists and that had an even smaller monster roster for a long time, and it took quite a while before its collection of exclusive monsters really grew, nevermind how long it took for them to pull monsters from the main series after the trade of Akantor and Tigrex for Hypnocatrice and Lavasioth.
It'd need a lot of changes before it comes to the west (which I'm sure they acknowledge) and one of the changes would be the exp cap being as tight as it is. It's just in a Chinese open beta now, and there are already hints of monsters such as Zinogre, Fatalis and Raviente for future additions to the roster. As it stands, they have a ton of monsters they could bring over and a ton of room for exclusive monsters. A rather small collection is fine at this point as long as it's increased somewhat through regular content updates (I mean they just added Dual Blades and Hunting Horn to the weapon selection, with Gunlance and Lance probably soonish, so that looks to be the intention)
I'd expect release to have more monsters (not a ton more, just some more) and then for regular updates to handle the rest of the concern. I don't see them getting rid of the exp cap outright, at least for the Chinese version just because it's a Chinese version.
>IG
>weapons were locked behind dlc content monsters
>Finally everything is out
I can finally got back and make my fire Rath IG and Thunder Kirin IG
>>322660761
>I'm High Rank 7 right now and I'm pretty sure it doesn't get harder than this since I die in one hit to any beam shot by those big monsters Akantor/Ukanlos and I also get one shot by Gore Magala blasts and Tigrex tramples. Seriously, fuck this stupid game with bad controls and artificial difficulty everywhere.
It does get much harder but the problem right now that you have is that your armorset isn't High Rank material, as in you're unprepared to take on HR. Go farm HR Tetsucabra for his high defense skills armor and use that or grab the Nargacuga armorset (you have to trade materials at the wyporium). The gaps between Low Rank and High Rank and between High Rank and G Rank are obnoxiously brutal when you're trying to get your first appropriate armorset for the higher rank quests but after that is smooth sailing.
>>322688567
I'll say the Cryengine is probably one of the best decisions for the game. If nothing else the modeling team and the hitbox mechanics are fucking outstanding. The weight is missing right now because there's no team damage. Supposedly it's coming in the future HR hunts.
Fully expect the awful chink pubs to ruin everything. I've never seen more worse players than Chinese MH players.
I'd take the worst MH newbie on /v/ than take a full pug group of chinks.
Played it at release until the beginning of HR, then stopped. Picked it back up again a few weeks before Christmas played quite a bit again and now I will probably put it down again. Seems like I can only take MH in bursts before I get burned out and lose motivation. I'm sure I will be back in a few months.
>>322689093
>Why do they give me 8 carts? Who dies 8 times?
>Chinese players die 8 times in a row to Basario charges
Not even like difficult high ranks, just low rank charges. A basario doing it's slow as fuck walk at you. How.
>>322689093
Yeah, the average Chinese MHO player really shows you that the stereotype exists when you hit around 20. Everything from that point on is usually them carting stupidly.
Most fun thing was joining a party for Blue Kut-Ku, just because I was farming it for the duals. It enraged, started dancing then charged around a few times. Suddenly two of the other players had carted
>>322663892
It's always a thread, anon. The point, as I see it, is that even if someone is genuinely butt-blasted about the game and wants to complain it will 'derail' into a real thread of hunters, tell'n tales round the gathering hall.
>>322685254
As much as people like to shit on GH, I'm glad he's at least around to produce easy to understand content for new players to the series. I remember not understanding a lot of how the game works and doing stupid shit that I probably would have done if 4U was my first game. The benefit I had was that there was no easy online when I got into the series so no one was there to bear witness to my stupidity. thanks to online though you get people who make it all the way to g rank thinking that 4 player hunts and being carried is how the game is supposed to be play and then they don't learn anything
>>322674347
because if triforce heroes wont let me use purple link in multiplayer, this game can
