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You guys do not understand how immensely fun fighting games are.
Once you get over that initial barrier to entry, they become one of the most satisfying, intense and fun genres to play. No matter whether I am winning or losing, I have the biggest smile on my face when I am playing.
I only started playing seriously a couple of months ago when Street Fighter V came out and everything just makes sense all of a sudden. I do decently well in online play as well.
I feel sorry for those disenfranchised with fighting games, because they are missing out so bad.
Playing fighting games is less fun that watching them to me.
Whenever I play a fighting game online, I feel like every decision I make is the wrong one.
あなたのアメリカ人はゲームを戦ってから離れて滞在していただけますか?あなたの脂肪ラード手があまりにも簡単にあなたと対戦作り、あなたは夕食のテーブルで行うようにあなたは、サーバー上のスペースを取ります
>>345468270
You might have to go into more detail. This doesn't happen to me.
Fighting games are just a female chauvinist sport wherein spectators get to see which catty bitch has the more dexterous hands while betting obscene amounts of money on a match.
>>345468448
So besides the dexterity thing it's like every other form of competition known to mankind.
Gotcha
>Playing BlazBlue
>Using my sub against someone to practice and have fun
>Never win, but usually perform decently, taking a round here and there
>They ask if I can use other characters that I'm better with and tell me to switch to them when I say yes, or they'll stop playing me
Come on, man, not cool.Once he started losing, he began blaming lag.
You have autism. There's literally nothing fun about fighting games.
That's why they pay autists to play them.
>I recently started SFV
Why does this game breed the most obnoxious of new fags
Hint OP
Street fighter 5 was built for casual faggots like you.
And the ultimate fighting game?
Super
Smash
Bros.
Melee
Anata no okasan meinu.
I wish I found them fun but I can't.
I don't find anything enjoyable about having to remember retarded button combos just to perform one move.
It feels like such a slog to remember that stuff, and if you don't play the game every day of every week, you eventually forget all of that shit and you have to re-learn it again.
Fighting games are awful games that only people who are willing to pour hours of practice into can play.
You shouldn't need hours of practice and memory just to play a game casually.
>>345468174
I played fighting games when they were kinda big in arcades back in the early to mid 90's, but I could never get good at them.
Nowadays I've become a fighting game literal cuck: I'd rather watch people more able than me play than play them myself.
>>345468610
>so besides the dexterity thing it's like my vastly generalized presumption of the entirety of gaming insofar as my shoddy arguing will be allowed on 4chan
no you idiot.
IS Street Fighter V worth getting if I'm trash and only can use a controller? I want to get into a fightan game but I'm not sure which is gonna be more newb friendly SFV or KoF?
>>345469026
Except thats wrong and you get this thing called muscle memory if you werent such a fat lazy fuck you'd know that.
Make a EU lobby and I'll join.
>>345469147
Out of those two? SFV, by far.Get Guilty Gear Xrd Revelator instead.
>>345469026
You don't have to remember arbitrary strings of buttons. All you have to do is learn how to do a quarter circle and press punch.
It's like Skate, when you flicked the stick in a way to do tricks. It's not as hard as you're making it out to be. Honestly, if you want to be good at anything, you need some kind of practice.
How many times did you fail at Dark Souls before you learned how the controls worked and became good? It's the same thing.
>>345469147
It's the most recent popular fighting game. It's based around fighting game fundamentals, so, if you wanted to get into fighting games, I would say to go for Street Fighter 5, but have a friend to play with you so you can learn together.
IsMarvel Vs. Capcom 2the mostfunfighter ever made, /v/?
>>345469345
What games you play, mate?
>>345469367
Is Guilty Gear casual friendly? I love the artstyle.
>>345468724
I find it hard to have dedicated subs in BB since everyone plays so different. GG too.
>>345469147
SFV is so noob friendly it's boring, but it'll get better as capcom finish it. KOF will die quicker than SFV will but it might be worth a look - I think a demo is out soon on PS4.
Personally I would go SFV as there is already a pretty good community with tonnes of guides and information but whatever.
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I'd play them more ifSoul Caliburwasn't dead.
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>Think about picking up SFV
>Mixed reviews
>Game is bugged to shit
>Retardedly long loading times
>Unable to re-map controls
>>345469561Wait, you the guy I'm talking about?
Fuck, I seem like a huge dick right now.
>>345469508
I'd say so, yeah. It has a Stylish mode that's basically meant to be training wheels for new players.
How bad is the paywall in SFV? Are the characters stupidly expensive? I just think Alex looks cool.
>>345469508
Fuck no it isn't casual friendly.
There are a shit load of tutorials in the game and ways to teach new people, but unless you know fighting game fundamentals, you are going to get fucked up while barely knowing what you did wrong or what even is going on.
It's a game based pretty heavily on Set play and Okizeme (wake up game), meaning that you'll get knocked down, then the enemy will set you up in a way that knocks you down again.
It's a fun fucking game when you know what you're actually doing, but holy fuck is it not for new players to the fighting genre.
>>345469707
The game isn't buggy in anyway. The load times are not insanely long as people claim, they're just a tiny bit longer than they should be, or compared to the old arcade games and SF4.
Being unable to remap controls however and there still being no PS3 stick support is pretty fucking stupid though.
People definitely overblew the games problems though.
>>345469686
Fuck soul calibur. I'm glad the /fgc/ rejected that casual shitfest.
>>345469467
I was thinking SFV. I suck too much at Guilty Gear to play with /v/.
>>345470024
I never got SFV to work properly for me, but I could give a shot if you want? I'm barely average, though.
OP if that's true then why are fighting game fans the most obnoxious, venomous angry faggots in the entirety of video gaming? Shouldn't they be 'smiling even when they're losing' instead of chimping the fuck out at every round lost?
>don't ever play fighting games
>roommate plays some iteration of street fighter on PS2 like all fucking day every day
>begs me to play with him
>not interested, but fine whatever
>don't know what I'm doing
>roll thumbs in a circle on dpad and face buttons
>win 2/3
>>345469995
It's the only fighting game I've ever gotten into. I guess it was because it was less about fisticuffs and more weapon focused.
Might be casual now, but I hadfunplaying most of them, including the HATED 3.
>>345469874
You should be able to get at least 3 at this point. The colors and stages are what get ya
>>345470241
>if that's true then why are fighting game fans the most obnoxious, venomous angry faggots in the entirety of video gaming?
They're not. That goes to MOBA players, who yell, scream, and break everything when one of their team mates doesn't act perfectly.
>>345469989
>compared to sf4
SF4 had instant loading times on PC, it's not "slightly longer". Because that shit drastically reduces the number of matches you can do in a period. Especially if you're doing training room practice while looking
>>345470241
But that's not true. Everyone knows mmo and fps players are the angriest
>>345470164
Sure I can always just pick my alt character if it's too one-sided. I'll make a lobby.
Just join that lobby. Use filters to find it fast.
>>345470321
3 is only hated by tourney faggots.
aka people who don't matter.
>>345470296
Your roommate sucks or lost to you on purpose so that you would play more often
>>345470296
>Things that didnt happen.jpg
>>345468174
>You guys do not understand how immensely fun fighting games are.
Maybe they aren't that inmensely fun, then.
>barrier to entry
That barrier wasn't a problem on my childhood, my childhood is gone, I tried getting back but it's not worth my time.
>you are missing out
Not really, fightan requires other players, and I don't like the other players.
>>345470447
SF4 didn't have instant load times if I recall correctly, but they are better than SFV. It's bullshit, but whatever.
I wish it loaded instantly and had an arcade mode so I can play with my friends and just mash start to keep playing. They MAYBE could have some kind of patch/option that removes the world spinning animation and fade to white, or doesn't load the 3D models, but they probably never will.
>>345470372
Season Pass worth it? I just the idea of buying something incomplete. Thats why Im swaying towards KoF
>>345468174
>garbage fighter 5
Lmao
At least play a decent game
>>345470598
>Thats exactly what I did to hook my friend back in the sf4 days.
>>345470735
The game isn't "incomplete" because some of the characters are locked behind DLC bullshit.
All fighting games have DLC bullshit, at least with Street Fighter V however, you know the game will be there in a year, unlike anime fighters which release the same game for full price with 4 more characters.
>>345470735
* Just don't like
>>345470845
Oups didn't meant to greentext
>>345470528
It'll just be a minute, it apparently wants to download something first.
Be there in five or so minutes.
>>345470735
No you can unlock most of the S1 characters by just doing the SP content.
>>345468174
>want to play fightanz
>none of my friends like fightanz because they're casual scrubfaggots
>PC too shit to run any fightanz with a community
>just sit around playing the dumb as shit AI in USFIV on 360 and sometimes EX Plus Alpha on the PS2 because no-one to blay with
>>345470476
>Melty Blood not even on the list
>Guilty Gear Isuka that high
Shit list
>>345470598
>>345470631
IDK he was kind of salty when I beat him desu. He was good at the campaign mode or whatever it's called, which I couldn't beat. I think I just won in a "how can he know what I'm going to do if I don't know what I'm going to do"-type of way. Regardless it didn't make me want to play any more.
>>345470982
Just install fightcade and play some other titles. Even your potato can handle that.
>>345468448
>female chauvinist sport
the fuck do you mean ? chauvinism in the community ?
>>345471131
Cool story, bro
>>345471131
This. If you spam against a really great FGC guy you'll win about half the time. They're so used to playing against people who know what they're doing and they can read and counter than when you sperg out on a controller they don't know wtf to do.
>>345470296
Congrats your friend was shit probably because he played with no other humans either and just go on the game and had fun hitting buttons.
Stop trying to act like fighting games are mash heaven just because it works at the lowest possible level of play where people mistime/drop everything and can't punish for shit.
>>345471131
Does he play against other people usually? Because even if you played in a way that no one could predict, you can always just take it slow and punish all punishable shit you do. But if you don't actually know how to punish moves then you will lose to players that play in a unpredictable way.
>>345468174
>not getting into grand strategy where you can hatch a game long plan and brag about your keikaku once everything has gone your way
>>345470476
>Loved Tekken 3, SCIII, SCIV and "recently" JJBA - ASB.
What's the point if all the fightan' games I like are shat on by the tourneyfags?
>>345469465
I still don't understand that game to this day.
I vote CvS2
The worst thing about fightan games is requiring an opponent.
>the CPU is either extremely cheap or laughably bad
>net play is always laggy
>your friends are casuals or you don't have any
>get BTFO at any and all tournaments
>tfw you'll never be able to git gud
>>345469870Wait, you the guy I'm talking about?no no, I meant guilty gear too
>>345471402
> when you sperg out on a controller they don't know wtf to do
>just hold back and punish punishable moves
That's what you do with players who spam random moves. If a player can't adapt to that, then he simply sucks.
>>345471402
What? No you'll only win games against people that pretend to be good like that. Anyone actually decent will see you're just being a random asshole with no neutral game/patience and will just sit there and react/wait to punish.
Only retards use the LOL IM SO USED TO GOOD PLAYERS STRAT. No they're just used to players who think anything unsafe is a bad decision. Even pros do unsafe shit sometimes when they really believe its going to work.
If you jump around mashing dp against me i'm just going to AA you all day and block.
>>345471405
I'm not trying to act like anything. I'm just replying to OP as to why I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything.
>>345471425
I met him as a college roommate and he just showed up with the PS2 and played SF in almost all of his free time. No idea if he played other humans regularly before he came to college.
>>345471536
>Netplay is always laggy
Its not. Just friend people with good net/have good net yourself and you can get alot out of online play and have good sets. Stop playing ranked mode especially in games with crap netcode like SFV and you'll have less issues with this.
SFV GG even the new KI/MKL have solid netplay with two good connections. Only games like early KOFs have inherently bad netplay at max bars.
>>345471623
Please speak English.
>>345471495
>"tourneyfags"
Fuck off back to reddít
>>345471824
Please learn how to read English.
>>345471536
>you will always be a shitter like dan
>>345471402
I know you did this to get (you)'s but come on.
Don't give misinformation. Mashing buttons randomly with NEVER GIVE YOU A WIN.
You can not mash buttons randomly against ANYONE who is ACTUALLY good and expect to win. Most of the time, when your friends claim they are good at fighting games, they are just a big fish in an incredibly small pond and have no experience with any competitive play, let alone playing with another person.
>>345470528
Oh boy, that was, uh, quite something.
>>345471859
Is there any other reason then? Back in the late PS1 early PS2 eras I didn't have a computer and those games were the most fun things ever for me.
Fast forward a few years and the general consensus in the fighting communities is that they're shit and unworthy of even being tourney material.
I guess I chose wrong when I was younger.
>>345468174
>disenfranchised
do you mean disillusioned?
>>345472332
Laggy as fuck. Probably on my end. Some of my SFV netplays are laggy like that. SFV doesn't like my router.
>spend time getting good at something restricted to 2D
Yeah, nah. Toocasual.
I'm so glad Rainbow Mika got into SFV, because I probably would've skipped the game otherwise. Despite the genuinely miserable shit Capcom pulls with DLC, the gameplay itself is fun as shit, and now that I've actually invested in learning how to play, I'm having a wonderful time.
Plus, KoF demo is out tomorrow, so that'll be fun to try out, too.
>>345471573
Oh thank fuck, you scared the hell outta me there.
>>345472407
It's fine, no worries.
I'm amazed you were able to parry in that connection, though.
>>345472343
>>345472343
T3 is an alright game though it has aged horribly and not nearly worthy of the praise some people give it, it was basically flavor of the month with a massive advertising campaign and every magazine/tv show shilling the fuck out of it.
SC3 was straight up an abysmal game, it was rushed and released in an unfinished barely playable state, everything about it was fucking horrible, the game was completely broken due to many glitches, including one that could brick your memory card.
>>345469465
It's because of options. Youve got more characters to play. It's why Melty and CvS2 are so fun.
>>345472558
>Tekkenfags
>>345471131
Being good at single player doesn't mean shit in fighting games
>>345469995
>come to soulcalibur tournament
>nightmare is banned
>ex moves are banned
>kicks are banned
maybe those people should play a different game if they hate this one that much
>>345473402
>banning features from a game
What?
>want to land a special
>by the time I finish the retarded input oponent is out of reach, had plenty of time to get out of reach or smash my shit up
>spend shitload of time in practice mode memorizing combos
>all of my shit is beaten by crouching guard mid kick spamming autists who can hundred to zero you from one clean hit
fuck this shit
>buy sf4
>spend like 6 hours in training mode
>practicing normals, specials, focus attack through fireballs, etc
>realize I've been playing all day but haven't tried a single match
>get rekt in story mode because I can't link hitconfirms
>give up because I would have to spend weeks in training mode just to beat easy computer
why do they have to make it so hard?
>>345474029
How slow can you be to input 236236 or 632146?
>spend shitload of time in practice mode memorizing combos
You are doing it wrong. What's the point of you memorizing combos if you can't even land the first hit?
>give up because I would have to spend weeks in training mode just to beat easy computer
Just hop online, you'll learn faster. Training mode is for trying out shit you learned during a match up. Or trying to figure out a answer to certain situation that gave you trouble. You people have it all wrong.
>>345474835
Meant to also quote this >>345474439
>>345474439
Start with command combos. You can find them in the command list. They are sequences of normals that don't need a link to connect, trial mode had required them too.
Watch a tutorial on youtube maybe, to learn what normal links into which special specifically.
The actual hard stuff in SFIV is that almost everything advanced, especially involving jabs, is a two frame link, but you don't need to learn those at the start.
After that, if you lose in story mode, it's understandable since the sf4 cpu cheats quite a bit, and cleanly punishes a particularly bad move every single time. This is a good thing, it helps you learn the matchup.
>>345473402
>>345468174
No local scene and i cant get my friends to play those games.
>>345474439
Its hard to learn an entirely new genre of game with totally different fundamentals from anything else you've ever played. Right now you are quentiessentially the Polygon doom guy picking up a controller for the first time expecting to not be shit.
Either put in the work or stick to more casual games.
>>345475054
jesus christ
>>345474835
that what I was talking about you bitch weebtard loser nigger, it's my online experience
now fuck off back to /jp with cuck nigger cunt
>>345475568
Don't get triggered just because you suck.
It's just agame
>>345470476
>Casual Roar.
Kek.
>>345475678
If you play F-Hime you have no rights to banter against anyone, you know.
>>345476152
I playC-Hime
>>345474029
>all of my shit is beaten by crouching guard mid kick spamming autists who can hundred to zero you from one clean hit
what game are you talking about
sounds like a particularly bad incarnation of Tekken
>>345476326
why are mods letting all this pokemon GO shit slide all the time
>>345476108
>that one gg baby who's too much of a casual to play Bloody Roar
kek
>>345470476
>no Xrd
>no UNIEL
>no fucking Melty Blood
Come back with v1.3 fag
>>345471009
Melty Blood 2 with UNIEL quality sprites when?
>>345475678
I am le triggered xdd
>>345476462
street fighter V
Would anyone want to play if I host?
Silver Karin but can try out characters I don't know for lower level players. Also got Xrd -sign- which I'm shit at.
>>345473402
>when you beat the legendary souls nightmare that could button read you
seriously fuck him no weaknesses
I do understand how fun they are but i have really poor reflexes so i'm not as good at them as i wish i were
main Kazuya, Mitsurugi, Hoahmaru, Terry Bogard
t. shitter
SFV is the worst SF BY FAR.
IT IS NOT FUN TO PLAY OR WATCH.
>>345468741
That's every repetitive task, anon.
>>345477361
Only if they are as smooth as this
>>345469508
Yes and no.
The core mechanics are really solid, and its fun, but it can be really punishing if you play against someone better than you. Game is super fast.
I don't know how XRD plays, but when I played AC+ with my friends,and was shit,it was all about fishing for knockdowns, and then setting up more of them.
>>345477448
You are a complete scrub or a bad troll either way thanks for the lel
>>345470476
Mahvel is so fucking imbalanced. What a fraud list.
>>345475054
>no being a poor sport
>whole list of rules that literally some up a sore loser.
wow
>>345468174
>I only started playing when Street Fighter 5 came out
0/10 bait
>>345478075
How did melty manage to have such good animations when >literally no budget
>>345470476
Who made this tier list and why is Skull Girls so high?
>>345479048
Jap devs with passion and talent. Guilty Gear is done by like 25 guys.
>>345478250
nigger shut the fuck up, just because I don't have the required amount of autism to "git gud" at your joke of a half assed dlc seller game doesn't mean you're any way better
>>345479174
David Sirlin says in his book "Playing to Win":
>"ho knows what objective the scrub has, but we know his objective is not truly to win. Yours is. Your objective is good and right and true, and let no one tell you otherwise. You have the power to dispatch those who would tell you otherwise, anyway. Simply beat them."
Thus, since he is better than you at the game, what he has to say is worthwhile and means something. If you want your opinion taken seriously, beat him.
>>345479562
>seriously quoting an e-sport autism book
really makes you think uh ?
>>345474835
how will I learn faster online? there's no way to learn links other than repetition. I could practice other skills at the same time, but I would just get even more frustrated at losing to flowchart ken because I can't push buttons in order like the game wants me to.
>>345474989
I tried looking up simple combos on srk but I couldn't even do ones with 4-5 frame links. rythym games are the one genre I've never liked and never been good at, but for some reason fighting games have the same basic mechanics.
>>345479864
You have no argument over than: "They are better than me because they put in more effort! What the hell! I should be good without doing anything!"
Which is why most games are shit now. They have to dumb everything down for people like you who don't want to put in any effort because it's "autism"
>>345480113
Here is a nice little tip for you. You arent losing because you cant combo, you are losing becasue you are shit at the game and have no awareness of the neutral game.
You dont anti air, you cant space your normals properly and you cant tech a throw, this is why you are losing and its the core problem scrubs always face. They play fighting games and immediately try to learn the biggest most complex combos then cry when they lose and blame that. "I only lost because i didnt grind training mode for hours!" "Yeah its because dont wanna play a rhythm game fuck this"
Dont bother learning combos, pick ryu and just learn to play neutral. Try winning games only using only cHP and cMK with ryu, believe me this sounds hard but its very easy at low levels and will teach you the game better than spending days learning combos.
>>345480734
That is some grade A advice anon.
>>345478227
Yeah this desu senpai.
GG is great if you have a bunchh of friends that are all around the same play level, its a goddamn abomination that shouldn't exist if you play someone better, its pretty fast.
>>345477448
it's literally impossible to do a full meter combo in street fighter, and in V you basically need a critical art to do even half bar damage
if by 'can hundred to zero you from one clean hit' you mean that they will put you into pressure that you have to deal with on wakeup, you might need to actually learn what their mixups are and how to block them correctly by playing against them more, holy shit, this is hard
>>345481850
>>345480734
Best advice i've seen on /v/ in a long time, hell, i'd say i'm fairly confident at USF4 as Guile, and i'm lucky if i do 4 hit combo once during a match.
Combos are cool, but fundamentals win.
>>345468174
I agree, fighting games are one of the most fun genres.
However, I didn't have to break any barrier to have fun, just play with my friends have fun between us and most importantly, completely avoid the FGC and the online retards.
>>345482768
The amount of fun you have mashing buttons randomly with your friends is infinitely smaller than knowing what you're doing and playing with your friends.
>>345468174
>I only started playing seriously a couple of months ago when Street Fighter V...
DROPPED
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>>345471495
>JJBA - ASB
>>345468174
grinding tech skill in Melee is fun af senpaitachi
>>345480113
The only combo you really need to start winning online is cancelling a normal into a special move.
Im interested doyou allconsider Tekken 3 and Tag Tournament 1(PS2 both) casual?Im talking about Japan version, its 3-4 times faster than PAL or NTSC version.
I played Samurai Shodown(all,even 3d version only for japan arcades), most SNK fighters, never did liked capcom fighters. Virtua Fihter meh, DOA went to shit when migrated on xbox, soul calibur until 2, maybe a little 3, later on i grew up.
Anyways, about Tekken 3 &TTT(PS2 JAP) ,do you consider it casual fighter(also, Eddie considered cheese to take) . Is there anyone old enough to play this game intensively ?
>>345480734
I've read this advice millions of times. I did go in training mode and set the dummy to do stuff so I could practice jumping over fireballs and get used to how far my sweep would hit and shit. I wasn't losing neutral. I was losing because I would land a crouching short or something and then get dp'd every time. if you land a hit for 50 damage and then get reversal for 150 damage every time of course you're going to lose.
>>345484490
>because I landed a crouching short
that's a jab
that's a link
do a command combo instead
>>345468337
What the hell is this chinky even saying
>>345484490
>and then get dp'd every time
block m8
>>345468174
Rising Thunder was fun. I had a high ranking there.
They killed it after a month, I'm not playing fighting games again.
>>345484953
how do I block when I'm trying to push buttons?
>don't push buttons
how do I kill someone before timeout when I only do 50 damage at a time and can't use my best tools?
>>345484197
They're the epitome of party game fighters that you can seat your inexperienced kids next to, and have them feel like they are accomplishing something. This is not a bad thing.
Tekken overall is a neat idea, (the entire game made of ground footsies and scrambles) but it has yet to be executed perfectly.
The main issue is that Tekken 3 is ridiculously touch-of-death if you know what you are doing, and some of the later installments are even worse. It was made in the time where you would just put awesome shit into your fighting game and not bother about balance. This is the issue with most Tekken games, but the trend with the latest ones, fortunately, was to make the high damage combos far more situational and far less actually damaging, so Fated Retribution is coming up a pretty balanced game.
Tekken Tag Tournament the first inherited most of the faults of 3, but TTT2 is easily the best Tekken game so far. Well, like half the cast in the game is pointless, but that's still better than many other pro games.
>>345485347
>block DP
>Punish them with harder hitting attack now that they can't defend
>repeat
>win
there you go
>>345485489
so at the end of the day you still aren't playing the character "correctly" and you'll have to learn links eventually.
>>345485769
No. Where did I say that?
If you're playing Ryu and someone misses with a DP you can hit them with a hard punch and then cancel into shoryuken, or even just sweep them for good damage if you can't do a basic cancel.
You only really need links for higher levels of play
>>345485769
they are making a mistake by mashing dp when they get hit by a low jab to begin with
you just did not recognize it as a mistake
a competent player will actually stop trying a link if he notices this, and will keep poke-jabbing them to bait out the dp, so that he can punish them with a non-prorated combo
>>345468174
I find fighting games fun but I'm still the type of person that gets upset when they lose a lot or make stupid mistakes.
>>345485934
I wasn't playing ryu. I don't want to play ryu. I have no interest in a game that forces you to play ryu to learn the game.
>>345485991
I was playing story mode so I don't doubt that the ai doesn't play optimally. if you were playing a human and knew he was going to block after every attack wouldn't you just throw anyway? the fact remains that playing fighting games without the ability to do links is like playing baseketball without being able to do a layup.
>>345486787
>>I wasn't playing ryu. I don't want to play ryu. I have no interest in a game that forces you to play ryu to learn the game.
ok then do the same shit with whatever character you were using. A strong attack into a special. It's really not hard m8.
>>345484490
You arent following my advice if you are getting hit by DP's because you are going for combos. Like i said, until you understand the game better you wont be able to combo because you totally lack confidence and will drop them even if you get a clean jump in.
The only way to get more confident is to improve and you will never improve if you remain stuck in this mindset. I'm a platinum ranked FANG and i rarely ever win by getting big damage off on anyone, anti airing, poking and punishing is always a great way to win.
>>345486787
> I have no interest in a game that forces you to play ryu to learn the game.
Who are you playing then?
>>345486963
understanding the game better doesn't magically give you the ability to do links. you're basically sayign that you can play basketball without being able to shoot and that somehow you'll learn it by playing pickup games.
>>345487530
You don't need links. I hope you're just baiting.
>>345487327
I tried seth for about 15 minutes but gave up because 360s were too hard even with the shortcuts. then I tried yun and spent a while practicing dive kick spacing, but I could never get the followup no matter how low I was hitting.
>>345480734
>Yeah its because dont wanna play a rhythm game fuck this
What?
>>345486787
If you're too retarded to learn how to use links without fucking up every time, play an anime fighter.
They usually use cancels instead.
>>345487695
so your solution is to just not learn a big part of the game and then deny that it is a big part of the game?
I was planing on getting KoF when it comes out and try to really get into fighting games
Or at least good enough so I can win a few games online
Is KoF a good beginner game? I messed about with theAndroidgame a little and really liked playing as Yuri
Am I setting myself up for disaster? At what point would you say you could comfortably play online? When you can beat cpu in hard maybe?
>>345485408
but if you have play ers of equal "powerlevel", im talking actual pro level a d then some .
I played probably any fighter to at least semi pro level released till ~2002.
(Except capcom, i just couldnt stand their phylosophy).
Anyway,IDK if something new stuff is released that changed order, but Last Blade 1&2,Samurai shodown #, TTT & T3( just fast JAP ver) felease that amount of andrenaline and qctually look crazy "epic" if you know how to play, you cant buttonmash at that level.
You really have to know how to play.
Maybe soul edge,calibur a little, but, those looked really amazing, people stopped and watched matches when absolute top tier players played. No other games were so layered and actualy looked like coreographed movies. Also instakill or 15 string combos are good only against beginners, or abusing in the air chars(IDK what idioms people use this days for those), but i dont know what other game came close to look that good combined with actual skill, to the point you have to master only one or two chars but must know to play with all if you want to play your mains optimal.
Are there any games that surpased those? I saw Tekken6 and it look horrible, im happy i quit fighters 15 years ago
>>345489154
KOF is known for its really good neutral game and the fact that every character is viable. People like to say the games are difficult because preztel motions, double half circles, etc but those motions only exist for a few characters.
The new one (XIV) has online team play so 6 players go at it on 2 different teams and there's auto combos if you're not so good at doing combos. Still, you should your learn some basic bnbs and normals.
>>345489154
I've only ever played SF, but being comfortable with a character and knowing a few basic attacks to chain was enough to start online. Online isn't like this massive hurdle full of 10/10 players, just like every game there are always people on your level or far worse.
>>345489157
>Also instakill or 15 string combos are good only against beginners
Certainly not in Tekken 1-5.
The game's main problem overall was that the health bar is like half of what it should be.
Soulcalibur's problem is less being flat unbalanced with massive disjointed hitboxes, since the game does make a point of giving every character a way around aside of sidestep or whiff baiting. The main problem is its lack of depth. It's a fucking boring game, in which everyone is a gorilla and every mixup is 33/66 at best.
It has always felt like an anime clash mechanic would have profited the game a lot.
>>345470476
literally almost upsidedown list
How popular is Skullgirls on PC? It's the only fightan I own right now.
>>345477793
>practice
>never give up
One day, one moment all will click..you dont need god tier reflexes. Even just punishing will hit you up in ranks.
>>345491653
There's a couple lobbies up every now and then.
some are up right now.
>>345470476
>no Samurai Shodown 2
It's shit.
>>345491769
my friend smurfed a sf5 account and got to silver in a day by doing literally nothing but picking ryu and pressing cr.hp
>>345495394
That's good, but doing will only take you so far.
For example, people in Platinum - Super Platinum ranks (those who don't ragequit of course) are legit, and practice alone is not enough to reach them. Everyone has that skillcap that feels impossible to get through.
>>345468174
Thats all depends on how fast your fingers move.
Tokido vs Daigo was so fucking intense I would be holding my breath until every round was over, Jesus Christ, fuck whoever calls SFV boring.
>>345479562
This post made me euphoric. You, sir, are truly a gentleman and a scholar.
>>345483753
>senpaitachi
>doesn't reply to multiple people
>>345490843
>etc but those motions only exist for a few characters.
Most new characters in XIV had 2x half circle for their climax.
>>345489154
go play 98 to get a feel for the game,also dont play kof like street fighter of you will end up not liking it
and watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye3KVgI1LvU
