What went so, so wrong?
Everything.
this game is like the fallout 3 of SMT games
>>345467367
Everything.
P4 was a mistake
>>345467610
>this game is like the fallout 4 of Persona games
Fixed. Persona 3 is Fallout 3.
>>345467367
You were born
>>345467367
Almost nothing, my ONLY complaint is that reuses too many enemies from P3 so it's not entirely refreshing, but other than that the game is pretty good in my book.
It's something stupid to say here, but I played it when I was a depressed loner in highschool and it actually helped me to be more positive and have somewhat more confidence in myself, I'm fond of the characters, the social links stories and the endings.
>>345467367
They made a Persona game.
Naoto came to Inaba.
rip nanako
brotag shook a gas station worker's hand.
>>345467367
persona used to be about the psychological issues of the protagonists not about which anime cliche you should bang
The chaos route was shit
>>345469014
lol
>>345467367
MC's group didn't have any counterarguments for Adachi's rant other than "ur wrong, we'll kick ur ass". Also, Izanami's actions ("three people will decide the world's fate, I'll pick two mentally unstable") were dumb.
It's just a simulator of the best possible highschool experience. Whats not to love?
your taste
>>345467367
Nanako was not a party member, otherwise it was a nice game.
>>345467367
It became popular.
Then Atlus started selling P4 fanfiction to us as if they were real products.
>>345470049
>Implying Persona Q wasn't the best Persona game
>>345467367
>Gas station attendant twist
>Easy as fuck
>Nanako's dead lol no she's not
>Teddie's dead lol no he's not
>Party members having major character development outside of the main story where they act exactly the same as they always do
>Naoto in general
>>345467367
Nothing. This is the pinnacle of the Persona series and it's doubtful 5 will take the crown.
Personal GOAT
>>345467367
>No After-Episode set 15 years in the future when Yu Narukami returns to Inaba with his waifu, depending on the save file you import, to settle down and start a family, only to get dragged into one final mystery of the TV World after your little sis Nanako, now an investigative journalist, accidentally awakens the power of her Persona, requiring you to bring all your old friends together again.
>>345467367
You are a faggot
>>345470953
fund it
>>345470670
Persona 5 actually seems to be respecting its SMT roots. For the first time in the series it looks like it's going to have good gameplay and actual dungeons. Persona 5 is a miracle.
>>345470953
Hey, this is actually a good story for a Persona 4-FES.
>>345471117
nah recent p5 screens footage has been terrible
>>345471726
got links?
>>345471726
Persona never had mindblowing graphics anyways, it's about story and gameplay.
>Hey, that visual novel stuff we put into 3 worked really well, right?
>Let's just do that and forget good gameplay!
>>345472159
>implying 3 had good gameplay
>>345472104
first reveal trailer was amazing, no recent video has topped it
bar was set high, but quite disappointing frankly.
>>345470953
>>345471228
I refuse to believe anyone on this planet wants more Persona 4 games. No, fuck you, stop giving them ideas.
>>345467690
and Persona 4 is DLC for Fallout 3. Hoping 5 turns into New Vegas
>>345470158
you mean Naotosona Q: Instant Kill edition
>>345472182
3 had some well designed bossfights.
>>345467367
It was a P3 Xpac rather than Persona 4
>>345472432
This desu I liked P4 but the amount of fucking milking they are doing to this series is pathetic.
You couldn't date Nanako and spend a night alone with her in your room on christmas.
>>345477867
She was 7 years old, Anon.
>>345478263
they coulda worked something out
It didn't have best girl
>>345478616
>>345478616
>>345478616
This.
Though you seemed to have used the wrong picture.
>>345467367
it was good but it wasnt better than 3
>>345478530
Nothing that would have saved Yu from jail time, pedo.
>>345478776
Aigis is so cute.
>>345478616
Yeah you're right
>>345478898
It wasn't even good. Having marginally better dungeon crawling but worse all around content than its predecessors is not a good game.
>persona
This is now an hoy thread
>>345478758
>>345479189
>>345478898
you're contradicting yourself
>>345469014
>P1: Jung with some mythology in it
>P2: Mythology with some Jung in it
>P3: Greek mythology only everything is death dude
>P4: Hamfisted Jung and dating girls
>>345478616
Best character portarit but worst girl. Also why did the writting take such a hit from mainline persona? P3 and 4 arent gonna win any rewards for writting but god damn it was bad in Q
>>345479550
The step from 3/4 to PQ was like the step from 1/2 to 3/4
>>345479189
I am ok with any girl being best girl, but Yuakri is such a terrible human being though.
>>345479106
dumb hoyposter
>>345479106
Hoy.
>>345479753
can't hear you
>>345479875
Don't you mean can'thoyyou
>>345479727
She was best girl, best personality. Some people like girls that aren't doormats.
>>345479550
I like AIgis`s. I thought it was cute
>>345479935
>people who like the character who was willing to kill everyone in the world, her friends who went through hell and helped kill the personification of death, and the pet dog JUST to try to get with the dude who was more interested in the robot girl
>has no actual motive that isn't greed and envy
>GIMME THAT KEY
>shocked when her, a teenage girl who's most work out is shooting arrows loses to two robots designed to fight shadows and could easily kill her
Yukari hit rock bottom in The Answer, they might as well just have killed her and some how magically revived Shinji.
>>345479932
yes, thanks for pointing it out
>>345479681
I don't know what you expected, it's a spinoff game that advertised its dungeon crawling more than story.
>>345479935
Yukari was a great example of an average teenage girl. A good person deep down, but slutty and bitchy on the surface because that's just how girls act in public these days.I wish I was her
>>345480107
>this is what robotfags actually believe
>>345480241
Not even a Aigisfag. She is just shit and everything said there was true unless you can`t prove other wise becuase it all happened in game.
Yukari-fags aremy kin
>>345480456
>>345480107
>shocked when her, a teenage girl who's most work out is shooting arrows loses to two robots designed to fight shadows and could easily kill her
Those fights were actually far harder than they should have been, taking me multiple attempts each. Why the hell do they all have moves none of them can even learn in game? It was just to fuck with you.
>>345467367
Not enough Yukiko. Thankfully, the rectified that in the port.
>>345480659
>he likes worst girl
>broke up with first and only GF (who was a qt3.14) because her brother stole my P4 disc and broke it
If I wasn't autistic I'd still be with her probably
When I first heard of persona on /v/ I thought it was a game where all the party members were personas, as in, they were fragments of your imagination.
I was disappointed you didnt just fuck your own figments of imaginations
>>345478616
>>345467367
Almost nothing, it's actually very good from most point of views. Some people are upset because of the lighthearted and positive approach that used anime tropes as base, but that was really well made. I agree with >>345470420, though.
>>345479487
>and dating girls
I will never understand this meme you dumb haters try to force, the dating sim part is actually 1/100 of the social links, you gets 2-3 events IIRC, and the social links had a good variety of chracters and personal problems.
I understand that most of you are just really biased shitposters, but there is a limit to how wrong you can be.
>>345481234
That would have been a way more interesting game.
>yukarifags
>>345479487
Reminder that Freud is a fraud
>>345481510
releasing
>>345481510
yukari
Shinjiro is a better girl than Yukari.
is there a bigger fedora than pretending you're above dating sim elements
>>345481510
image
>>345467367
The original game was fine, albeit a bit too bright a successor to P3.
Everything after it, including The Golden, is shit that retroactively makes it worse though.
>>345481510
>>345481138
>>345480497
>>345480410
Fuck off, samefag.
>>345481510
dump
>>345481510
Are autistic with shit taste.
>>345481779
Yes, buying games for dating elements
>>345467367
Too many slice-of-life cutscenes, not enough focus on the plot. Dungeons weren't large or interesting enough and often forced you to return because of running out of SP unless you were greatly overleveled or had an assload of money.
The biggest fault of all was Dojima not joining your party and summoning Kohryu.
>>345481779
My Fedora is on that I would rather be killing than talking to highschool women
>>345481872
Same to you, yukarishitter.
>>345481510
>>345481872
And the yukari poster also samefagging can fuck off too.
>>345482005
yeah in P3 when you beat an area boss you could warp back to the start then back to the area to refill SP. Persona 4 doesnt let you
>>345467367
It's a /v/ pretends to hate a perfectly fine game episode.
>>345482130
P4 is a game for casuals
>>345482081
Take your slut and fuck off.
>>345482126
What the fuck are you talking about, P4 lets you do exactly just that bar SP which is harder to get
>>345482206
Every Persona is casual
>>345482206
You say that but /v/ still bitches about Shadow Yukiko or Kanji.
>>345482358
Except p1
>>345482347
You have to toss all your money to the fox in 4 when it was free in 3
>>345482130
I still like the game, but it is not perfectly fine.
>>345482438
That's because /v/ is for 16 year olds
>>345467367
You gonna bring up actual discussion points, or are you gonna be a fat, little faggot that spends his days shitposting on an animu board?
>>345482439
>implying most of the shitters itt even played 1/ice queen/2
>>345467367
Why is Yukiko so good? Even against enemies/bosses that resist Fire she's still worth keeping in the party just for healing purposes alone with that massive SP pool.
>>345482457
And it makes more sense, you couldn't rush the fuck out of it like in 3 and have to plan things out
Just got around to starting 3, does 4 still have the 'tired' teammates shit?
>>345482870
I did
>>345481510
are youhorny?
>>345481510
Better than being a pedo.
>>345482870
That literally made me want to kill myself. Why make something were you have to sit the casino to be able to move forward?
>>345483059
No.
That tired teammates stuff also becomes less of a problem as Persona 3 goes on as well. I don't really know how much longer they can go but I never really had anyone get tired in a dungeon after like the third or fourth month.
>>345483137
Congratulations, what do you want, a fucking medal?
I said "most".
>>345483863
Yes, I would
>>345482005
Yeah, an overall better and more complex mystery plot-line could have made it better, but I disagree about the too many slice-of-life cutscenes, they had a great balance of comedy, characterization and personal problems, it was incredibly enjoyable.
>Dungeons weren't large or interesting enough
It still was an improvement over P3, though.
>often forced you to return because of running out of SP unless you were greatly overleveled or had an assload of money.
Oh, yeah, this, fucking this, you brought some really annoying memories to mind.
>The biggest fault of all was Dojima not joining your party
Nah, Dojima should have had a bigger role in a more polished and better structured mystery plot-line as the real cop who was doing real investigation. And, seriously, fuck Naoto.
>>345482097
no
>>345482457
becuase in 3 you had the tiredness mechanic. 4 omits that so instead they limit SP.
You could still farm SP drinks every week from the shop vending machine or use the right personas.
Which Persona girl has the biggestfutanari penis?
>>345484801
marie
>>345484801
http://pastebin.com/6xfzu3Hu
>>345484938
>>345484801
Futanari rules dictate that the more pretty and feminine a girl looks, the bigger her dick is.
So, Mitsuru and Yukiko would have the biggest.
>>345470953
I'm sick of the milking of Persona 4... But damn I kinda want this.
>>345478616
I agree Anon. It didn't have the best waifu.
>>345470953
>no extra true end where you end with no one and finally hook up with Nanako
>game literally made for people who got bullied in high school and laughed at by girls
>game is genetic new highschool student OMG so hot and suave uwu pls fuck me anonkun
The gameplay is babies first jrpg with combat right out of any early FF game and the dungeons are literal copy pasted hallways. The rest of the game is a shitty visual novel where the player gets to pretend they were popular in high school and wank to their imaginary girlfriend.
There's nothing good about it.
>>345480217
Yukari didn't seem slutty to me at all... Bitchy yes, slutty? Nah. She hated her Mom for being slutty!
>>345486104
No its a game reflecting on japanese anime standards and escapism. The shadows are human struggles trying to uphold a certain archetype.
Second it does give you a power fantasy but both the 8bit kid and adachi showed alternatives. Especially adachi to which the power of friendship bullshit sounds hollow.
>>345486716
It's not that deep senpai it's a waifu SIM with the most cliche girls possible
>>345467367
Literally better than 3 in every way
>inb4 but muh edge
>>345469241
>MC's group didn't have any counterarguments for Adachi's rant
That's kind of the point
Even in the last episode of the anime Yu pretty much admits he's right. That's the whole discussion the game opens up.
>>345484801
>>345484938
>"Once, I was so busy at the inn that I didn't masturbate for two days"
>"And on the third day, I was so backed up that I ended up... clogging one of the toilets"
>"My mom really let me have it" 'A girl your age and size is supposed to be ejaculating 2-3 times a day! What were you thinking letting it build up like that!? It's not good for you!'
>"It was so embarrassing"
>>345484727
>the 8bit kid
As shit the kid was, I still remember that it made me feel uncomfortable when he got arrested and the bad rumors abouts him went so out of proportions that people basically started to made false stories about him up.
>>345486869
Yeah, now try to get a better brain, the game isn't subtle at all yet everything went all over your fucking head. I get that you are just trying to use the game to feel superior, but you should try to restrain yourself.
>>345487591
meant for >>345486716
>>345480659
>Yukiko seduces you after showing off her survival training and building a fire
Truly best girl.
>>345486869
I don't agree, but you already seems to hate the game, so why bother.
Think about it - why do people remember Persona 4 for being more of a dating sim than 3?
They had just as much of it.
Well, it's because the characters in 4 are more fleshed out, well written and overall memorable.
Why the fuck remembers any of the girls you dated back at 3, or what they were about.
>>345488263
That just means P4 characters were written as better waifu fuckdolls.
The only persona 4 i have played is on the ps2 emulator because im broke, how much am i missing?
>>345488263
Mostly because "it was too slice-of-life-ish for my taste" doesn't sound as edgy as "hurrr it's dating sim trash durrr".
And the themes and characterizations went all over their heads.
>>345488846
-2 social links, new demons
-New Events with party members and such
-Added months
This: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdfmf11Wtbo
>>345489252
>-Added months
Elaborate please.
>>345488738
Yeah, nah, I hate waifu fuckdolls and every single waifufag and I liked the characters and how they were fleshed out.
>>345489401
in Dec it skips to March or something on vanilla bu t in Golden there is no time skip after the final boss
>>345489631
What about Persona 3 how much different is it?
>>345467367
HEARTBREAK
HEARTBREAK
>>345489971
Like what? They're two different games that run off the same engine and gameplay style.
>>345490031
Nothing in Persona 4 stands up to INEVERFELTLIKE
>>345489971
You mean between FES and P3P, or between the original and FES?
There's no reason to play the original version over FES, and you shouldn't play P3P unless you've already played FES and desperately want more.
>>345467367
>What went so, so wrong?
It wasn't golden.
>>345490210
Between FES and P3P.
>>345479550
They had to write characters that aren't allowed to have character development for 60 hours, because most of the characters were pulled out midway through another 80-hour game, and expected to return to such after it was all said and done.
Also Akihiko in particular got all sorts of fucked up with this script.
>>345467367
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaINR4sqX1w
WAKE UP
>>345480208
>>345490563
This, the story was supposed to be simply a fun fanfiction, why the hell did you expect something more.
>>345490513
P3P adds the option to play as a girl, and changes a bunch of the social links if you play as FeMC. Adds full control of all party members. Adds a school trip to Inaba where you get to see sexy middle schooler Yukiko.
It removes the ability for the MC to use any weapon and all the graphics.
The characters in P4 are so much better it's not even a contest.
>>345490591
>DEFENDING TEDDY IN COURT FOR A SEXUAL HARRASSMENT LAWSUIT
Jesus Fucking Christ, I want it, why wasn't it in the game, someone mails Atlus.
>>345491967
that would require 100 bucks to model it and pay the voice actors for stuff they cant constantly recycle. Fatlus is above something like that
>>345490469
I bet Nanako has a bigger dick than you.
>>345491118
>>345490513
instead of 3d maps of every location it are static images with a menu which building you interact with. Same for all events. They are just VNs style, rather than the small 3d models with a VN overlay.
I started playing P4 got 9 hours in, got bored of it, stopped playing it. Do dialog options even matter on this crap ? I want to be a total sarcastic cunt and the game doesn't let me, give me more dialog options damn it
>>345493120
There are more options during the social links.
LOL
>>345493120
No. During story it wont matter till the very end. Just pick whatever.
You have to hold on if you want to try and enjoy it. The start is a slog, and I mean a fucking long slog. Only once you get through the initial months the game picks up and lets you go. Then it is really fun as you can scroll around town. interact with your favourite characters, and have a good time. Then as the story comes to an end it starts railroading you more and you then finish the game.then you feel a vague ache of nostalgia of the time you stomped around in the summer talking to your anime perfect highschool buddies
>>345490513
P3P is a text adventure but you can be a girl.
P3FES is a videogame with "The Answer" as an epilogue extra game where you play as Aigis to uncover what happened to the main character and help everyone move on with their lives.
If you actually have difficulty choosing which one, you may have brain damage.The only reason anyone hates The Answer is because it's auto set to hard mode, which isn't actually hard at all.
>>345484938
>her jism is almost boiling hot and if shot inside of you will warm your insides as if you had just drank extremely hot soup.
10/10
>>345494321
no bias here
P3P has more gameplay than FES
>>345493516
not funy
>>345494571
>P3P has more gameplay than FES
That is factually incorrect.
The Answer alone adds more gameplay than all of P3P.
>>345493120
>>345493743
That's actually a thing that I really hope they will fix in P5, but considering that very few games have a well made choices/ "choose your personality" system I seriously doubt that. It's a real shame, it would fit this kind of game very well.
>>345494660
You got what he meant.
>>345493516
>>345495065
I do but I think he's a faggot for making such a big deal out of controlling your party members.
>>345495126
>all SMT games are about you fighting primal forces of evil to restore the world
>this is somehow evil
christfags everyone
>>345490031
YOU TELL ME GOODBYE
>>345467367
Mary Yu
Is the Vita version much better? I remember that the dungeons were insufferable, on top of the humor and characters.
Which is weird because Persona 3 wasn't very different and I fucking absolutely loved P3P. Have my theories why.
>>345496341
If you don't like the base game you won't like this version.
>>345496341
not much better. But if you already own a vita getting golden is worth it. First of all you get the winter months. You get some extra events. which can be pretty funny. At the other hand they made the game easier.
I'm actually playing the game for the first time, right now.
I just got Kanji and am trying to beat the optional boss for his area. He seems pretty cool, and his writing alright and interesting enough.
who /never played a persona game ever/ here
>>345496749
my mind never played it but my penis did
It's a very fun but very flawed game, most of those flaws came as a result of it being rushed. It was fixed somewhat with Golden, but that also brought a few new problems and couldn't change some of the games fundamental issues, uness they were willing to go for a REmake level makeover, which they weren't.
