How the fuck Kyle Katarn is still not canon?
who?
>>345441601
Dark Forces protag who was popular with EU fans, so he subsequently got some comics and novels made about him, as well as appearing in a few more videogames.
Everything relevant that he ever did is now done by minorities and women
got to craft your own original characters
they're far superior, don't you know
>>345441559
Never dude. Learn to accept it. Theyve gutted every worthy achievement of his and given them to like 8 different characters now. Just be happy Thrawns back.
>>345441559
He was never that interesting as a character anyway. He was just an excuse for the games to toy with various settings and gameplay styles.
His games were rad, though.
Who gives a shit if Kyle Katarn is canon? The Dark Forces games still kick ass regardless.
>>345442218
I do because fuck you I want to see Kyle Katarn in the sequel trilogy
>>345441559
Because Kanan Jarrus and Jyn Erso essentially filled his role. He'll undoubtedly be re-canonized somewhere down the line, but it won't be without major alterations first.
>>345441559
But he is you faggot.
Just not the gender that you think he is.
He's been shoehorned into a female character.
>>345442787
Fate worse than death
>>345442787
Nigga her name is Jyn Erso
>>345442787
>not final
the worst is yet to come
>>345442864
I thought it was Ira Bell?
>>345442864
I can already see them trolling us.
>Some guy mispronounces her name to Jan Orso
>She tells him its not her.
>Some comment about a male partner, hinting at Katarn
>Jyn Erso is a strong woman that dont need no man partner.
>>345441807
I need r34 of that chick GOD DAMN
>>345442983
>FLYING HELICOPTER LIGHTSABERS
I thought the Lightwhip and the Lightscythe were fucking bonkers but here we've achieved maximum stupidity
>>345442983
>ape_escape.webm
>>345442864
>Jyn Erso
>Jan Ors
Bravo diversity.
>>345442983
I want what the makers were taking
>>345442983
WTF!!!
THAT GUY WAS LITERALLY DEAD!!!
>>345443174
Think back Anon, what did you really see?
>>345443174
nigga got fixed in TCW
>>345442983
>Seen this webm many times
>Just now see that Darth Maul 2.0 is also dual-wielding a fucking stick
>>345441667
Because that goes against Disney's "Luke is the last and only Jedi since the end of A New Hope" lore.
>>345443174
Getting cut in half from waist doesn't necessarily kill someone.
Doesn't explain surviving the fall, though
>>345441559
because he's a white cis nu male and does not represent vast universe of a diverse world of star Wars™
>>345442983
>spinning is a good trick
>>345443262
>>345443357
He was killed by darth sidius in clone wars
>>345443347
except they already have the rebels cartoon jedis
and fucking yoda
>>345443475
sheev just slapped his shit
>>345442983
Have to admit, the fight between him and the emperor is pretty good. Maul goes all out, the emperor toys with him, then just shocks his ass.
>>345441667
Eurofags blown out once again
>>345443449
you fucking got me
>>345442787
The fuck couldn't they have just swapped the roles of Kyle and Jan, and just kept them as the Death Star plan-stealers? Actually, I know the answer; it's because some fuckface suit wants to put "their" stamp on the series.
>>345441559
What I want to know is why Disney just doesn't make more EU shit and just slap a Legends sticker on it.
Do they not wholly own Kyle Katarn and his support cast? Would they be losing out on money if they made Dark Forces IV instead of rewriting him into the new canon?
>Badass "Too cool for Jedi" Katarn is now not a thing
>but Airy Bell is
End everything
>>345443553
Ayyy you nigger
Kylefags are the fucking worse.
>>345441559
Dont worry. He willbe when disney runs outta ways to milk the next line of star wars movies.
>make a movie surrounding the events where Kyle first came to light
>include a huge bunch of characters in some sort of band of brothers thing
>not one of them is Kyle
>he's replaced with a tough gurl who will have as much personality as a cardboard box
>>345443743
They already made a Thrawn with a different backstory canon
it's only a few more years till they copy shit from the old EU
>>345443679
>They could have been about him realizing the truth that no other jedi or sith wanted to know, that the force isn't inherently good or evil, it is what people do with it that makes it so
STOP THIS MADNESS
Force powers are not good or evil; the dark side is evil because it controls you when you tap into its power. You literally lose yourself when you go there.
Why did Filoni get pissed after Sam Witwer joked around saying Katarn pops out of the YT-2400 instead of Dash?
>>345443869
>NigNog vs YuVong
Make it happen.
>>345443679
God Rey was annoying. The entire movie would have been better without her.
>>345443995
I actually liked Finn more than her. She was just too powerful for a girl with no training. I mean, epIV Luke lost to that shitty training droid, shit his pants learning about the mind trick (..."we were about to get killed!"), but Rey is a master.
>>345443995
I didn't really mind Rey for most of the movie.
Then her Mary Sue powers of being able to snipe Stormtroopers after firing a gun 3 times and using force powers with probably negative training kicked in.
Then she was a terrible character.
>>345443983
Taking it back, the Vong variant will be made even nazier space nazis; this time they will have tattoos and be the neonazis; uncultured swines.
what did he mean by this?
>>345442787
>>345442787
you can literally see kyle on the cover with an AR
>>345444223
Lol does he hate the star wars movies that much?
>there will never be a force-sensitive character that doesn't give a shit about being a jedi or using a lightsaber, but uses their powers to be a lovable lazy dick
>>345443907
The dark side doesn't make you go crazy, being a raging inherently unstable faggot makes you go crazy.
Anyone that uses it with the thought process of needing a bigger gun to solve a problem is doomed to failure.
>>345443995
>I bypassed the character development!
Yes, yes, well done Rey, well done Rey
HOWEVER
>>345444323
Apparently he wanted them to kill off Han Solo in Empire Strikes Back. This was back when his career was starting to blow up, and he wanted to go off and do other movies, but couldn't pass up the star wars cash.
>>345444106
Finn's backstory didn't work for me, it contrasted with his character and took me out of the movie.
>>345441559
>How the fuck Kyle Katarn is still not canon?
because he's a white male.
>>345444378
Wonder if he showed the kid his Sheev Spin.
>>345444323
I think he counts his lucky stars that he was one of the only two actors who were able to continue high-profile careers after those movies.
did this guy show up in Rebels?
Sheev said he wanted it cloned
>>345444341
>The dark side doesn't make you go crazy
It does
>>345444272
>Dirty Sanches
>Milla Jonovitch
>unnamed nazi robot
>The Last Samurai
>Machete
>Abdul "bomb them to the tomb" Muhammed Ahmed
Where's Kyle?
>>345444378
>Good, good
>>345444323
It's a joke, but for the longest time he was snide about Star Wars, working on it again seems to have melted his frigid grumpiness.
>>345441559
What would you do if Kyle Katarn suddenly shows up in the next Star Wars film?
>>345444489
>Since they were paid low salaries for the first Star Wars, Mark Hamil signed an agreement with Lucas
>In exchange for a cut in pay, he'd get a piece of merchandising, and one of every product created
>Over the years, Mark has been given one of every piece of Star Wars merchandise ever made
>It is rumored that he owns a temperature controlled warehouse in california where he stores it all, in mint condition
>He has over $1,000,000 in collectibles that have never seen the light of day
>>345444559
>>345444559
>>unnamed nazi robot
Bitch it's the Iron Giant
>>345444608
If he makes jokes referencing old EU stuff and is the exact same character, I'd love it.
>>345444640
I was talking about James Earl Jones, but OK.
>>345444602
>it wasn't me
it's "it ain't me", you fupa having shit stain
>>345444529
Being crazy makes the dark side corrupt you, if you're not crazy it doesn't.
From any perspective it doesn't make sense for the dark side to even exist if it's inherently destructive to the user. The force exists in life, if the dark side corrupts and kills everything it touches it would eventually just destroy itself and everything else.
>>345444795
he was talking about the song by Shaggy.
>>345444689
I completely forget about him.
Also, Mark has gone on to say that he loves voice acting over regular acting, since the audience can't see you. When Batman the Animated Series was in development, he wanted to be the voice of Mr. Freeze, and was a bit bummed out when they wanted him to play Joker. Now, he is the Joker.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gBWpWwIBKw
>>345444795
>implying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2g5Hz17C4is
>>345444559
Right next to jan. Literally has the same clothes as kyle under the brown leather jacket, more apparent in the trailers where you can actually fucking see them though
>>345444846
>Being crazy makes the dark side corrupt you, if you're not crazy it doesn't.
Source: A whole bunch of not canon shit
>>345444924
Even in the new canon it's like that, with shit like the force personification family.
>>345444608
>"Ah, sith spit."
>>345444992
The core of Star Wars swapped from Christianity to Judaism between ep VI and VII.
>Christian / Legends canon have the dark side as a lucrative drug / sin
>Judaic / new canon have the light side as a lucrative drug to the evil people
>>345444992
>force personification family
What?
>>345444846
Death and destruction is a part of life. You know, chaos and all that. Change. A fire wipes out a forest but leaves fertile soil, enriched by ashes, behind.
Not that Lucas thought that far ahead. Light = good. Dark = bad. It was a lazy way to make quick magic villains.
NIGGERS
DARK SIDE IS LITERALLY A CORRUPTED SIDE OF THE FORCE
IT'S NOT THE COUNTERPART OF LIGHT SIDE TO BALANCE THE FORCE
LUCAS ALREADY SAID SO
AND "BRING BALANCE TO THE FORCE" PROPHECY MEANS REMOVING THE DARK SIDE CORRUPTION, NOT KILLING JEDI (PLURAL OF JEDI IS STILL JEDI) UNTIL SITH AND JEDI NUMBER 1:1
>>345445136
>>345445150
>Bring balance to the force
>By making it only light
Lucas is an idiot.
>>345443995
How do you think she feels about sand?
>>345445240
Like the guy said, the dark side isn't supposed to be part of the fucking force in the first place.
>>345445240
No, it simply means that the nature of evil is imbalance, chaotic and destructive.
Paletuna is in Star Wars yo
>>345445118
These guys.
The son clearly looks evil as fuck but he's still a natural part of the force, and the father is neutral and grey.
>>345445323
So, do they ever close the loop on Ms. "We want the girl audience" by having Darth Vader murder the shit out of her?
>>345445336
So a bunch of really powerful force users is meant to show what, exactly?
>>345445336
There's supposed to be a mother as well, though. She hopefully represents the 'living force' (despite being dead).
>>345445446
They're not force users, they're literally living personifications of the force itself.
>>345445435Yes. In the last season of rebels she gets her shit fucked up.
>>345442983
>the exile will never be in a movie
finally got around to playing Jedi Outcast, got the lightsaber so it's a lot more fun, at that asteroid base now
I don't get the jedi battles though, swear sometimes I can get through them without being hit once, other times I get my shit slapped in seconds
>>345444924
>canon
the star wars canon is bullshit because lucas is a fucking hack
>>345443679
I always thought that KOTOR2 and Jedi Outcast had way better story than the star wars movies had.
It's just sad that there's so much potential to tell deep and interesting stories with the star wars universe and the force, and yet we still get the same bland story since the 70's.
>>345441559
Because he's a white male. Gotta replace him with a strong independent woman who don't need no man.
>>345445592
Just beat Dark Forces 2 a little while back. Should I play Mysteries of the Sith or jump straight to Outcast?
>>345445556
>Gold face
>>345443123
>implying feminism is about diversity and not about maximizing white women privilage
>>345446052
Mysteries of the Sith first nigga
>>345444602
>This is the end
>my only friend, the end
Now I want a 'Nam themed game, where you kill guerrilla droids with your clone buddies.
If you think of it, it could be a fucking success.
>>345446071
it's a meme you dip
Because he's a shameless self insert
>>345443679
why did you save this when literally none of it is accurate?
If you were in charge of deciding what's canon and what isn't, what would you keep?
You don't have to stick to 'Legends' vs 'Disney' vs 'G-Canon' or whatever. You can pick and choose.
I would probably get rid of virtually everything after, and possibly including, New Jedi Order. Eliminate obvious dumb shit like the Sun Crusher and the Glove of Darth Vader series, etc. All prequels and Ep.7 are out, KotOR 1 and 2 can stay along with the space sim games (X-Wing/TIE Fighter) and Dark Forces.
>>345445941
Why didn't they stick with the original idea of Jar Jar being either a pawn of Darth Sidious, or a secret dark lord himself. Looking back at the movies, he was a catalyst for everything in Sheev's plan.
>>345445336
I really enjoyed this scene.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jPVUl693JU&ab_channel=HarleenQuinzel
>>345446191
Maybe it could be Republic Commando 2.
Maybe...
Maybe we could save Sev...
>>345446283
Because it was 3 fucking years ago.
>>345444608
>>345444681
>A character named Kyne Kattan is assigned to the mission along with Jyn Erso
>is extremely condescending to her, talking about his various accomplishments and how he has strong ties to the force
>tells her to play his support (cuz dat's wut gurls duu :^))
>gets killed quickly by a random stormtrooper
>>345446287
Eliminate everything that isn't the movies, the Clone Wars shorts, space games, the first Dark Forces, and Shadows of the Empire.
>>345446287
it's a good thing you aren't in chrge
>>345445336
Anyone else wonder why this nigga looks like the Inquisitor
>>345445941
That looks incredibly stupid.
>>345446293
Twi'lek best race.
>>345445336
>the girl is the 'good' one
>>345446321
Sev is alive because Delta is canon but RC isn't.
>>345446260
and even then he's still a more captivating and realistic character than Rey
>>345446595
Togrutas are better
>>345445941
anyone over the age of 10 who thinks this is cool or has a place in the canon should look into a different franchise.
>>345446293
>twilek women are the sexiest women in the galaxy
>twilek men are ugly as fuck
How does this work?
>>345446321
>You play as the og leader, now you lead an squad of Imperial commandos
>You're the only clone in the squad, your old buddies died to the rebel scum
>Shev send you to investigate a new general that is crushing the Empire troops
>In the end It's Sev, and like you, he's old and dying
>Everything is ala Apocalypse Now, showing the hell of the civil war, neither side is good
I'm literally wet right now, it could be fucking great.
>>345446932
Go to any eastern european country.
>>345445562
What I wouldn't give for the KOTOR series to become canon, or get a nice short animated series, or even get an acknowledgement that it fucking exists
>>345446321
Imperial Commando is already on the works
by EA
nice monkey paw wish
>>345447227
>Maul becomes Mandalore, leader of the Mandalorians
>Shev comes in and still wrecks his shit
>>345447284
>wanting both Revan and Exile to be strong independent women
>>345444272
He's Cassian Andor. Not Kyle
>>345446893
clones and calamaris were losing to quarrens and droids so senate decided to just dump gungans
>>345444223
Was this a joke? If not, Ford is a massive asshole
>>345444378
Wut
Wut
>>345447284
They already referenced alot from it
Korriban shows up and Yoda fights the ghost of Darth Bane
Malachor is used as a word for hell
Old Republic vs. Mandalorian war is canon
Selkaths and the kotor mandalorian helmet show up in TCW
an entire arc set in Onderon
Darth Maul recites the Sith Code from kotor's Sith Academy
There still hasn't been a Star Wars game to deliver what I want, I just want to make a Mandalorian character and not have to play Star Wars Galaxies.
>>345446893
>we have this warrior race that lives and breaths under water
>they're pretty much on our side
>better ship shit ton of expensive clones with probably expensive gear to let them fight underwater
I'm not defending the show but try using some basic logic, trust me it works.
>>345443679
That prediction was all entirely wrong, though.
>>345447706
I feel bad about 1313 as well.
How many bothans will die
>>345447997
All the bothans
>>345447547
everything on tv is staged anon
>>345445240
Correct me if I'm wrong because I'm not huge into EU shit, but I'm pretty sure that nowhere in the original movies is any reference made to the 'light side'. There is the force and then there is the dark side. Light side/dark side is something added in EU when in reality the force is simply the force and the dark side is what happens when it goes wrong. That's it. There's no light side.
>>345441823
>Just be happy Thrawns back
In Young Adult trash. No thanks.
>>345448119
>he honestly thinks the old Star Wars novels weren't YA trash
>>345442983
How can people complain about the EU when this shit is canon?
>>345448119
It's probably just best to let go. Take Legends as your personal canon and don't look back at what's happening now. Truth is, probably half the books we grew up with were 'YA' focused tripe too, we were just kids at the time too so we didn't care as much.
>>345448034
>>345448034
bothan spies in BF2 were annoying and useless as fuck
they're TF2 spy and pyro tier
>uncloaks behind you
>sprays fire
>nothing personnel kid
They should do new Force Unleashed game just with Luke as MC.
>>345448234
Because people eat up Disney shit all day long.
>>345443532
Thats a different show
>SW Rebels Q&A session after the showing of the newest trailer
>someone in the audience recognizes Dash Rendar's ship and asks if they'll be seeing him in the show
>Filoni outright says it's just a similar ship, and tells the guy to not be disappointed when it's not Dash who will show up it the ship's cockpit
>Sam Witwer goes "BUT KYLE KATARN WILL!"
I still hold hope
>>345443983
>The Empire
>Good
I love the delusion in these kinds of posts. The Vong series was also pure fucking garbage along with the vast majority of post original trilogy EU. The only good EU is Clone and pre Clone EU.
>>345448478
>Jen Orso
>the bearded faggot looks exactly the same as Kyle Katarn
>Katarn's first mission was to steal the plans of the Death Star as well
You have to be fucking blind to not notice the influences here.
>>345448182
I don't give a shit about UE, but the new movie was like the Hunger Games meets Twilight the next one will almost certainly be worse.
>>345445762
KOTOR II is so fucking good, I'm playing it again right now. I wish for a good KOTOR III with a smoother combat system and engine, it's a pain sometimes when you character gets bamboozled and doesn't do anything in a fight until you move him.
>>345448608
Why do her eyes take up nearly a third of her face?
>>345443347
As it should be. (except Yoda)
Rebels is shit in premise alone, ahsoka shoulda died with the rest of the Jedi goddammit
>>345446052
MoS if you can get that shit running
>>345446260
self insert of who?
>>345448984
cat race
>>345441559
Because Disney a shit
>>345441559
Kyle Katarn is dead.
They gave his design to Kanan.
They gave his backstory as a stormtrooper-turned-good to Finn.
They gave his role as one of the rebels who stole the Death Star plans to Rogue One (which is also turning Jan Ors into Jyn Erso.)
They have murdered Kyle, and dissected his corpse, taking almost everything out of it.
He isn't coming back. Make peace with it, as I have. Disney has brainwashed people to the point where they call him a Mary Sue. Let them shout at his grave.
>>345448216
>Those Sheev spins
>>345449250
I meant the Togruta.
>>345449471
loli togruta
>Rogue One protag is Jan
>One of the guys looks suspiciously like Kyle Katarn
He'll be in Rogue One as the surprise secondary protagonist. I bet he and Jan will be the only ones to survive the suicide mission.
>>345447384
Such is the power of the dark side
>cackling intensifies
>>345446893
You realize that this is Star Wars, right? All of the movies are made for children.
>>345446775
What's unrealistic about Rey?
Kyle was too based for the star wars world
>>345449556
>He'll be in Rogue One as the surprise secondary protagonist. I bet he and Jan will be the only ones to survive the suicide mission.
Already confirmed that they both die and the robot survives. The main character's name is Jyn and the man is not named Kyle. He's a disgusting spic because we can no longer have white male protagonists.
>>345449556
The other guy is Cassian Andor, not Katarn
>>345449593Except for ESBThat shit had fucking incest
>>345445818
>Lightsaber arrows
Okay this shit is getting out of hand....
>>345449754
They're plasma arrows you dingus. Basically a wookie bowcaster with a different design
>>345445818
>laser arrows
Disney really turn Star Wars into shit.
>>345449669
>Before we do this, who are you really?
>What are you talking about? You know-
>Drop it. I know "Cassian" is just a made up name you gave to the rebel leaders. I can't do this if you don't trust me. Who are you?
Music swells up
>My name is... Kyle. Kyle Katarn
Little kid in the theater: WHO THE FUCK IS THAT
>>345442983
>keep hearing muffled "It ain't me" in the distance whenever I see this .webm
>>345449754
>>345446292
source on it being the original idea?
>>345449754
So a crossbow is ok but a bow is not?
WTF?
>>345449843
it's before the disney buyout
you should see disney's space slingshot
>>345443679
I need an asian actress for Jan Ors.
>>345449727
Episode 3 had child murder but it still applies. Even when it gets dark and pretty violent, it's still primarily aimed at children. It's completely okay to like it as an adult, but still, people need to remember that.
>>345441559
Kyle is pretty much the biggest Mary Sue (or Gary Stu, as it were) in the EU. Not sure how they could make a movie or show about him and not have it be ridiculous. Don't get me wrong, I liked the games, but he's already had a good run so I'm fine if they don't bring him back.
>>345445515
Oh god...
TFA is going to have the emo jew be the dark side, the toothy andro brit as teh light side and luke as the grey jedi middle...right?
He's the new father grey jed...
Nah they don't have the balls to pull something like that.
>>345450113
No. Anything I liked as a child must now be for adults, as I am now an adult
>>345450076
>Karl Urban as Kyle
Fuck yes.
>>345449017
She's plenty dead now, Vader left her in a crumbling Sith temple last season.
>>345450019
>the bow string is laser
>the arrow is laser
How is the thing used? If the arrowhead had the laser, ok...
>>345450076
it's funny because the guy who played kyle in the game cutscenes later admitted that he hates star wars personally lol
>>345449958
it wasnt THE original idea. he meant it was an original idea, like something unique
darth jar jar has been a fan theory for a while now
>>345450062
Please be fake.
>>345450286
It's real, but he builds his own lightsaber that doubles as a blaster to make up for it.
>>345444414
I feel the same way. To me it made no sense that Finn a storm trooper who according to the new lore are basically taken from birth, trained in platoon sizes family units their entire life, fight and die together. Would suddenly betray his comrades, his fucking family. After a single battle in which he saw his fucking family die. If anything he would go further into hating rebel scum. They killed his brothers and sisters.
>>345450449
>>345450492
Do all the characters in the new series look as bad as >>345450062
>>345450449
THat's somehow worse.
>>345442983
What the fuck
>>345444689
What? James Earl Jones was in The Lion King.
>>345450563
My shit
just fuck it up
>>345450076
Here you go anon.
>>345450667
Shouldn't he be playing a guitar with Jack Black?
>>345450701
nice desu ne
>>345450570
It's just a stun gun built into to the hilt. He has to switch the blade off for it to work.
Season three he starts using a regular lightsaber and carries a blaster on the side like Kanan did.
>>345450563
Mostly, but the newest season is looking a bit better.
>>345450563
idk I thought it was a pretty novel idea
>>345450076
add paul walker as dash rendar and I'm all for it
>>345450701
Who is that? Some YouTuber?
>>345450770
meant for>>345450570
>>345450701
>>345450797
>add paul walker as dash rendar
Right because Dash and Kyle had so many adventures together
I'm just casting Dark Forces II
>>345450726
>PLAY FOR ME THE BEST SONG IN THE GALAXY, OR I'LL EAT YOUR FORCE GHOST!
>>345450667
>Mfw they send in the supers
>>345450756
>>345450770
Why not just attack a blaster to it while you're at it?
>saber lock
>fire blaster attached to hilt
>profit
I always thought the single-saber no-frills thing was more about honor than feasibility, but I guess we helicopter-double-saber-stun-gun-adjustable-length-whip-sabers now
>>345441559
But he is. He just moved 4000 years in the timeline, where he becomes the Exile.
>>345444795
Fuck off /tv/
>>345450797
but he ded
>>345450113
No, I read somewhere that Lucas said the og trilogy was always aimed to be a family movie, adventure with mid violence.
I don't know about the prequels though, fuck, I don't even know what the fuck Lucas wanted to do with them in the first place, they're fundamentally fucking broken.
>>345450891
BRUH way to miss an opportunity to get everyone talking about casting EU characters instead of JUST casting DFII.
>>345450948
do you have that image that says
"expression promises unlimited cum"
>>345444795
>not knowing Shaggy
18+ kid
>>345451048
i know ;_; I didn't even care for his movies, i just wanted to see him as dash rendar
>>345450770
>>345451119
Here you go
Hence forth you shall be known as Darth Gibesmedat
>>345450076
Asa Akira
>>345451294
too fat
>>345451162
His brother from Fast 7 could do it.
>>345451294
>>345447334
Is that a black LIGHTsaber?
