To the people looking forward to The Last Guardian, what are you hoping to see in the game that would never be?
I'm hoping to see more climbing and atmosphere building that SOTC had.
I hope it's going to be more than playing as the kid and using treats or whatever to have the beast weigh down pressure pads and shit.
But I'm pretty sure that's all it will be.
The not-downgraded visuals. The game seriously looks bad now.
>>345429112
I've lost all hope. This game has been in purgatory gor the past 10 years. It's pretty much Duke Nukem Forever 2.0
>>345429815
>This game has been in purgatory gor the past 10 years.
but at least it wasn't remade over and over again and switched to different companies to make it like Duke. it's the same game as it always was.
>>345429706
The Team Ico games were never about graphics. They were more about how it would look stylistically.
>>345431387
And the style and graphics were downgraded.
>>345431450
Except they weren't?
>>345431450
from the gameplay of the game I've seen of people playing it the style looks fantastic. before this all we had were prerendered cinematic trailers.
Who the fuck is even looking forward to this scripted garbage? It's like a neo-Naughty Dog game, but somehow with even less gameplay.
>>345429112
more qte but not pan retarded god of war qte.
>>345431515
They were.
>>345431567
There were never any pre-rendered trailers dude.
>>345431569
>Who the fuck is even looking forward to this scripted garbage?
Every game is scripted. a game can't work unless there is something telling it to do something.
>>345431594
team ico games never had quick time events.
>>345431782
>There were never any pre-rendered trailers dude.
they weren't running on the playstation hardware, the playstation hardware couldn't handle what was shown in E3. read up on this stuff.
>>345431902
Neither could SOTC but they released it. TLG would have been sub-HD like Dragons Dogma and other titles.
>>345431959
>Neither could SOTC but they released it.
it was even worse than SOTC. it ran at around 10 to 5 fps. what was shown at e3 was all glitter and not gold.
>>345432070
They gave no number and Ueda said that he was upset that they decided to port the game to PS4.
And for porting the game to PS4 they had to remake the game. Thus the downgrade since apparently the port has been rushed.
>>345432157
fair enough, but when was it announce that the game was completely remade from the ground up? We've never actually seen real gameplay of the game until now.
>>345432472
In the same article you read that it ran poorly on PS3 if I'm not mistaken.
I want one part where your dragon falls off a very high point. Like you're both seemingly miles in the sky on these weird raised castle things and your dragon is injured. Tries to hold on and slip off and, without tge game telling you to do so you leap off the edge after him and you try to catch up to his fall speed and grab onto him. Then you have to reach his face to wake him up and its like playing sotc with the stumbles and grip and shit.
>>345432816
and then he wakes up and glides to the ground.
oh my hart.
i personally will not engage in this qte to see them splat on the ground.
>>345432589
I read that article and it said nothing about it being remade.
>>345432816
if the new 2016 trailer is giving what it promises, it should be something like that.
>>345432920
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/the-last-guardian-for-ps3-would-have-been-compromi/1100-6428488/
>>345432886
when did a team ico game ever have a fucking qte? why are you even in this thread? You clearly know nothing about team ico games.
>>345433116
hello it's a joke
>>345432943
This really makes me wonder what did the actual game look like on software for 2013 TLG.
I have trouble seeing the downgrade after seeing the gameplay and the 2016 trailer, the game looks like it has a lot of life to it.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JG854AzOHqw&feature=youtu.be&t=97
>>345433568
>the game looks like it has a lot of life to it.
I....
>>345433621
the games till has bloom, you can see it in that link there, I'm done with cherrypicking images.
>>345433741
That's a 1:1 comparison that doesn't mention bloom. If anyone is cherry picking it's you!
>>345429112
i just want it to be ICO 2
>>345433741
>>345433868
Simplefied lighting, less detailed Trico, climbing isn't as SOTC like.
>>345433884
Should be just that.
>>345433621
both sides look fine. I'm just hoping the game handles the same kind of emotions that Ico did for me with the relationship of Yorda.
>>345433942
I have no doubt that Trico will be muuuuuch more important to us than Yorda. She was a blank slate with very little personality.
2deep4u boring chinashit
/v/ will love it
I bet it's just going to be a tube run with mostly scripted bird dog instead of actual AI manipulation.
This game killed team ico, it took so long good people left the studio. The result will probably be a mediocre game that once had some good ideas but are now long buried deep in there.
Did they even show anything new at E3? Only thing I saw was the recycled broken bridge bit.
>>345433868
Trico's feathers still seem very intricate from what I've seen.
>>345434186
But much less so as that webm shows. It seems like they dynamicall downgrade like some games and their resolutions. Or it's got a very aggressive LOD system in place? I don't know.
>>345434164
>it took so long good people left the studio
w-will they come back?
>>345434263
I don't think they toned down the LOD, Trico still has the same amount of feather models, it's just more placed down on his body than originally, it still flops around in the wind and shown to be the same look as in the early trailers. or maybe it isn't idfk I still like the new look, I just wish it didn't take so fucking long to release, like shit. I know it's just going to be a short Team Ico game that I'll remember fondly forever, but it didn't have to go through this shit hiatus.
>>345434604
It's definitely not the same broski. My main issue is the art style being boring as hell now.
https://youtu.be/0i0TV5r0CSc?t=101
>>345434712
the artystle doesn't look boring to me. you can point out the differences all day but it still looks like a fine game.
>>345435006
They removed the sexy fantasy colors though.
>>345429112
SOTC references. I know every game is a alternate universe under the same concept, but there are references in the other both games too. Dunno something like wander's end from a old painting something somewhere in game.
>>345435087
if the whole game actually looked like that during gameplay, it probably would be pretty distracting and wear out its welcome really fast. that's just one anon's opinion though. maybe there are some areas that look like that, we haven't played it yet.
>>345435258
I like this idea, I don't want it to be a story relating to the previous titles, but some lore responses to them would be really cool.
>>345435274
Watch all the trailers. The old ones had all kind of colors but the new one is standard or BLOOM.
>>345429112
>Guys, it's coming for Ps3 for sure
>Guys, they just pushed it to Ps4
>Guys, they are obviously saving it for Ps4.5
We just gotta be a little more patient guys, trust me
>>345435356
are you saying that the top one has no color? and that's weird to be talking about bloom that way since the bottom one is nothing but giant bloom, I can barely make out his facial features.
>>345435456
Yeah. The filter or whatever you would call it. This is giant bloom my man.
>I can barely make out his facial features.
Because it was cel-shaded before...
>>345435542
>Because it was cel-shaded before...
but I can't see the details of the cell shaded. like I can barely tell the whites of its eyes because of the bloom.
And to that image, the old trailer does that white fog thing too, when the boy walks up to the outside world and his eyes have to adjust, SOTC does this too. it could also be something story driven that is happening there.
>>345435664
>whites of its eyes
#1 Asian
#2 he's clearly facing the sun
>And to that image, the old trailer does that white fog thing too, when the boy walks up to the outside world and his eyes have to adjust, SOTC does this too. it could also be something story driven that is happening there.
wut
>>345435805
>the old trailer does that white fog thing too
pic related
>Asian
the thing is he has the same amount of white in his eyes but you could barely tell since the sun bloom just makes it look like 2 dots on a head, it's weird looking in my opinion. facing the sun is no excuse, I would not want to play a game that looks like that.
>>345436006
That's HDR from being in a dungeon going outside. The image I posted is just bloom fog since you're already outside in a valley. Like you said it's a story thing but it's just bloom, it's not caused by HDR.
>>345436154
Why does it always have to be HDR? I have no problem with bloom when used the right way. TLG still has HDR but it uses it in different ways. You've seen the gameplay of the dungeon beginning of the newly released footage, it still looks great.
>>345430827
It sort of did, but never had the original team completely replaced. However, Sony did bring in other teams to help Team Ico in the areas they were struggling with.
>>345432943
It was ported, not remade. Some assets had to be redone, but it wasn't entirely remade from scratch when they went to PS4.
>>345431569
It does look way worse than SoC.
>>345431827
>pedantic faggot Sonygger being willfully dense
>>345436819
>so everything had to be kind of redone for PS4
Meaning the engine, the optimizations, the graphics renderer, etc.
I wish we could stop worrying about how this game is going to be a huge failure and just be excited about it...
this was the one thing I was excited about this year and life doesn't want me to be.
>>345436919
If they remade everything from scratch, then none of the PS3 stuff would match up to the PS4 content, and we've seen it all looks the same with only minor changes in some of the environments shown. They ported it and remade whatever assets couldn't fully transition over. It happens, quite often, with games that switch consoles.
>>345436881
>>pedantic faggot Sonygger being willfully dense
explain
>>345436881
It doesn't look "worse" than Shadow of the Colossus. Don't even fucking kid yourself.
>>345437036
Have you seen what I've been posting? It barely does match up, the game looks pretty damn different. They didn't have to remake all of the environment assets but everything else had to be remade. That includes Trico and his feathers because it was probably coded by mad scientists to get it working on the PS3 and you can't just port things like that 1:1.
The article proved you wrong so I'm not sure where you're trying to go with this.
>Loved SoTC
>Hated ICO
>mfw
Should I worry?
>>345437227
>The article proved you wrong so I'm not sure where you're trying to go with this.
to be fair to the OP, the article said 'kind of redone', not completely redone.
This is a meme game. It's just gonna be boring puzzle shit. Why are people so excited for this?
>>345434263
It seems they made Trico more scraggly, not a downgrade, but a visual choice to show he's been suffering. Look at the left, he looks pretty healthy, whereas the right he seems almost emaciated, like a mangy adolescent cat. The feathers still look pretty detailed, but they now show a less beautiful and graceful creature, but a prisoner. Yea, being a bit wordy but that's my take on the look.
>>345437382
boring is subjective.
>>345437227
It didn't prove anything wrong. But please, keep doing this shit every mcfucking thread about the game. Every thread, you complain. Every thread, you bitch and moan about the same damn shit. And when people say the changes aren't that bad, or that they didn't change as much as you claim, you backhand people with shit like "drones!" and "Sonygger shills" because you can't seem to be satisfied unless you act like a dense shit to everyone. The game is coming out, people are happy, fucking deal with it already you melodramatic shit.
>>345437391
they might of stopped having the feathers out like that because it looked bad during bug testing for clipping through walls and such. it looks nice for a pre-animated trailer but for an actual game it hurts the visual appeal. maybe that's the thought process of the game devs, idunno. the feathers still have a lot of physics.
>>345437274
Yes.
>>345437391
You can't honestly look at the above webms and believe what you're saying.
>>345437548
>so everything had to be kind of redone for PS4
>so everything had to be kind of redone for PS4
Stop shitposting you bitter loser.
I have a feeling that people are excited for this game because they feel like they should be excited for it. SotC had style and atmosphere, but the gameplay wasn't that great. It was sorta annoying actually. And Ico wasn't that great either. Is it because MUH ART fags who say SotC is a masterpiece, thus anything else related to it must be as well? This must be some sort of joke.
>>345437597
>You can't honestly look at the above webms and believe what you're saying.
believe that because people have fucking opinions. there are more sides to the world than the way you see it.
>>345437687
I'm not talking about opinions now am I. There's objectively less polygons and the lighting is simplified. It's a downgrade.
>>345437597
Nigger, the only one shitposting is you with your selective reading bullshit. You fucking cherrypick anything you think gives you "credit" and then throw it in people's faces when they can easily prove you wrong.
For example, "Kind of redone" doesn't mean it was ENTIRELY remade, but certain assets. Seriously, grow the fuck up already and stop with this inane shit of yours. You're like that autist from the Turok threads who kept shitposting about the HD version having "Pink fart clouds"
>>345437752
yes you are. you hate that people like the way the game looks right now, even though people are perfectly fine with it. you hate that it doesn't look exactly like a pre-rendered trailer that runs like ass.
>>345437752
>There's objectively less polygons and the lighting is simplified. It's a downgrade.
That's an opinion, because the lighting looks just as good as before.
How about YOU look at the webms? >>345433941 literally has the same lighting. Trico's lower body is in shadow, but you can see the soft light pouring over parts of his head. That's not downgraded in the fucking least.
>>345437802
>someone who goes to Turok threads calling someone else an autist
Nobody said the engire game was remade so who has selective reading now? Why do you sperg out when you're wrong?
>>345437850
Prove your claims.
>>345437891
>literally has the same lighting.
Haha okay blind bro.
>>345437902
>Nobody said the engire game was remade
Except you did in >>345436919
Also
>calling people who like autistic
Nice shitposting, kiddo. Really mature of you.
>>345437902
>Prove your claims.
prove what? that you hate that people think that way? if you didn't hate it and not care you wouldn't be trying to prove that their viewpoints wrong for hours.
>>345437980
>lol, you blind
It's adorable how you have no other way to fight back other than call people blind. Or drones, which I know you're going to soon enough because nobody is buying your bullshit.
Still believe Sony held the game hostage for 3-4 or whatever?
>>345437902
>Nobody said the engire game was remade so who has selective reading now?
you're a fucking idiot.
>engire
you're clearly hate typing.
>>345438002
I didn't. I actually agreed with you and clarified what was remade.
Reading comprehension.
>>345438018
Yes, prove that. I'm just talking about the game lol no need to get so sensitive.
>>345438076
You're literally blind if you say something like that. And stop samefagging already.
>>345438091
>you're a fucking idiot.
And you're clearly mad with no argument..
>>345437902
>Prove your claims
How about you definitively prove the game was downgraded and isn't nearly at the level of what the team wanted?
Oh wait, you're not Ueda or his team. You don't know what it is they wanted to make, so stop acting like you know their vision better than they fucking do.
Official Trailers:
https://youtu.be/0i0TV5r0CSc
https://youtu.be/bbhwNI8LiWs
https://youtu.be/zXLZvsSmBIs
https://youtu.be/fL2zzgW6YOo
Downgraded:
Trico's feathers are more numbered now but smaller, I think it looks a lot worse.
Fog and color grading was changed drastically. Environments look fullbright now most of the time or just bad.
They added more bloom to the game and it's not the good kind.
Less particle effects(dust and dirt for example).
Here's smoke being downgraded and you can clearly see the lighting is completely downgraded as he climbs up the tail. Basically 10x less shadowing now.
https://youtu.be/0i0TV5r0CSc?t=193
https://youtu.be/zXLZvsSmBIs?t=310
Trico doesn't even cast shadows on his own body anymore and there shadows on the temple barely exist.
https://youtu.be/zXLZvsSmBIs?t=106
https://youtu.be/bbhwNI8LiWs?t=69
Unlit braziers so no smoke, shitty environment lighting again(look inside the building, HDR is fucking gone), and Trico still has no self-shadows.
https://youtu.be/zXLZvsSmBIs?t=374
https://youtu.be/bbhwNI8LiWs?t=94
As always, the lighting and shadows are less striking.
https://youtu.be/JG854AzOHqw?t=66
https://youtu.be/bbhwNI8LiWs?t=18
This is a disgrace, after nearly 10 years of Sony talking about this game it's finally a reality but it doesn't look any better than what we saw back then, it looks worse. The downgrading is real.
The game looks almost identical to how it was before but without fog and shadows mainly.
>>345438141
>And you're clearly mad with no argument..
the argument is >>345438002
>>345438174
>>345438201
>How about you definitively prove the game was downgraded
BTFO
T
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>>345438201
can you report copypasta? this is just taking up space that is unneeded. this fucking anon has already said exactly everything in this post in this thread numerous times.
>>345438141
>reading comprehension
Mine is just fine. Yours however clearly isn't you backpaddling sack of garbage.
And who is samfagging? I certainly am not.
>>345438218
>>345438283
Stop samefagging.
>>345438141
>Yes, prove that. I'm just talking about the game lol no need to get so sensitive.
I'd prove that by how in every single TLG thread, you shove all of this down our throat, even though people are perfectly fine with the way the game looks. you know that and yet you still keep making these post because you hate that people think this way. someone has a picture of all the fucking posts you've made which is unbelievably a sad amount.
>>345438257
>BTFO
And argument discarded. The fact that you resort to the meme equivalent of "I've won!" clearly shows one of two things; you either are a shitposter who really doesn't care about the game and have just been baiting people. Or you're a child who literally can't come up with competent arguments and maintain the moral high ground.
In any case, enjoy the ass pain, faggot.
>>345438314
>>345438314
I'm not >>345438218 you colossal buffoon. Are you really this desperate for validation that you have to resort to calling people who disagree with you samefag? God, you're pathetic.
>>345438379
That wasn't me but nice absolute dismissal of concrete evidence bro.
Who invited the lighting guy who jerks off to video game lighting?
>>345438461
>concrete evidence
More like cherry picking bullshit, but sure, whatever you claim downgradefag.
>guy proves the game was downgraded
>sonyniggers cry at him
They're getting their second game, leave them alone.
>>345438520
Think he's related to tile guy?
>>345438570
>>345438314
And you accuse others of samefagging.
>>345438201
>Trico doesn't even cast shadows on his own body anymore and there shadows on the temple barely exist.
Except you can literally see shadows of his ears being cast on his face. God, how can one person spew so much bullshit?
>>345438798
it's a copypasta lightguy posts in every thread. just report it.
>>345438728
The guy who masturbates to floor tiles.
>>345438728
lurk more.
>>345438798
He doesn't cast 'as many' shadows, sorry.
>>345438864
>>345438924
you going to explain more or?
>>345438940
Maybe because the area he's in isn't providing the kind of light that would cast as dense shadows? Honestly, do you know how light works? Because it's not the same all across the board. The amount of light, the intensity, color, and all sorts of shit can affect how it bounces off of things and thus create shadows on people and objects.
>>345438940
I'm sorry that it doesn't meet up to your quota. now go away.
>>345439026
Just look up "tile guy" on google, brohan. All the info you could want is there.
>>345439067
B-b-b-b-b-b-but if there aren't at least 12,000 variable shadows that are heavy and dense, he can't reach proper climax! His balls will swell and he'll die from the pent up semen!
>>345439030
It's the exactly same area.
>he thinks lighting in game engines is that good
>especially in Trico 2.0 which has simplified lighting
Grasping dude.
>>345439150
Except the time of day is clearly different.
>it's simplified lighting
There's that baseless claim again. And you say I'M grasping. Pot, meet kettle.
>>345439225
There isn't a time of day system.
Definitive proof has been posted multiple times this thread. http://i.4cdn.org/v/1468835708893.jpg
Are you honestly still going to repeat your bullshit? How don't you get sick of sperging out when you're wrong?
The lighting in the game looks good. everyone keeps posting the same copypasta but the 2016 trailer looks legit awesome.
>>345439296
I never said it had a time of day, I said the time of day was changed. Learn to read. The original side shows what is clearly a time closer to morning, whereas the newer one is clearly around noon or later. Those times of day have different amounts of light. But please, keep regurgitating the same bullshit you've been slinging since last year because your autistic obsession with lighting demands you be "right" about something that is neither as big a deal as you make it out to be, nor in any way true in the bullshit you spew every goddamn thread we have.
>>345439395
>but the 2016 trailer looks legit awesome.
>>345439427
It's the exact same time with a different renderer. You can tell by the angles of the shadows.
>he's still sperging because he is wrong
>>345439528
It's clearly a different time of day.
>you're wrong because I say so
Real cute, kiddo. Now how about you put a trip on already so we can all filter your shitposting lying ass?
>>345439528
yes, it does. that image is in the dark.
>>345439601
Don't bother. The guy will just find another image to cherrypick and then either call you a sperg, drone, or sonygger because he has no fucking argumentative skills whatsoever.
>>345439080
nothing came up because i'm not obsessed with him like you apparently are, googling him every day until google knows what you're talking about.
>>345439601
K.
>>345439739
who is that semen demon
Ico and SotC characters to appear.
To fly to the forbidden lands.
Not possible.
>>345429706
I once took this meme seriously then the shitposter who keeps shitting on TLG dropped his own webms.
Then I noticed that the devs just moved the light source up. Noticed it when Trico climbs up the ruins, to find a window. When Trico gets hit by actual sunlight he looks identical to the PS3 renders. Dust particles included.
>>345439676
Stop posting and lurk more
>>345439756
>those downgraded feathers
>>345439820
see>>345433868and>>345433941
>>345439676
look up 'tile guy 4chan'
>>345439903
I don't think it was downgraded, they just made the feathers smaller.
>>345439903
both of those webm's look beautiful in their own way. why do we have to fight?
>>345440076
And move less.
So they move less and they're smaller, that's exactly what a downgrade is.
>>345440170
I'm merely informing people the game was downgraded. If they argue with facts I'll correct them because I pity their ignorance.
>>345440287
well can you stop informing here? everyone has seen your posts a million fucking times and it's annoying. I'll see the game to be downgraded when a developer of genDesign or Team Ico comes out to say it's downgraded. until then. fuck off.
>>345440559
Stay mad, sperglord.
>>345440559
> everyone has seen your posts a million fucking times
All 19 people who have posted here saw it once you over-dramatic loser.
Did this guy fuck your dog?
>>345440626
I just hate that you always derail TLG threads into this garbage. I want to talk about something else. I want to talk about the stuff I do like in the trailers. can we talk about things we did like about this game coming out for a change?
>>345440708
he's posted way more than once and I'm sick of the derailing.
>>345440787
Keep crying then. Nobody even cares about this game that's why the threads are always dead.
I'll post about the downgrade even after it comes out, just for you.
>>345440904
these threads are always dead because the people who do care about the game don't care to sit through all these posts about you.
You just seem like such an unlikable person who keeps posting about a game he doesn't like.
>>345441002
I could say they're dead because of the assmad posts with ad hominem that you make but I would be acting like a bitter loser, acting like you.
The game is unpopular and got downgraded, deal with it. I'm personally looking forward to it and I'm sure it will be GOTY. But that changes no facts, I'm just not a drone like you.
>>345441103
how am I being bitter? I'm just upset that these threads always get derailed and always just talk about the one subject of the grade being down. I just want to talk about something different.
I think the real bitterness is calling someone a 'sperg' or any other kind of names like 'drone'. that is way more bitter than someone who just wants to talk about the other side of the coin. doesn't it?
>>345441207
>how am I being bitter?
>I'm upset
fuck off
>>345441103
And there you go again with the drone stuff, how typical.
>>345441247
not the same definition bro.
>>345441103
>downgraded
I just love how you keep saying this with no proof whatsoever.
>>345441273
everyone needs to learn to not reply to him. it's not worth it.
>>345440904
>>345441103
>>345441247
Wow you need to fuck off. 140 posts, most are from you.
Can't take any criticism, must reply to everyone every time.
Its like FF15 kun outside of FF15 threads. What are the chances? He already got banned for shitting up a KH thread.
>>345441420
Posted proof.
>>345441509
>most are from you.
Half the thread is (you)'s to me so that's wrong.
Doesn't FFXV kun defend the game?
If a game doesn't look like an n64 game, that it's not a downgrade in my book.
>>345441680
downgrade
reduce to a lower grade
>>345441806
You keep saying that, yet have zero proof that such is the case.
>>345441886
but the feathers anon!
THE FEATHERSS!!!!!
>>345441656
No, you did not. You've posted footage of a game that has clearly gone through change, but that simply means the team has made artistic decisions. So how about you to deal with it already, hmm?
>>345441656
He defends it so hard not even people who are hyped for the game can stand him.
sure is gameplay discussion in here
>>345443021
I fucking wish
