So I guess we'll never find out how Clover and Alice came back to the past from VLR.
Or Kyle.
Or Left.
Or the poisoned morphogenetic field.
Or any of the 287 dropped plot lines.
this game is fucking awful
Clover a shit.
>>345396624
Best girl thread
You're all shitters
>>345397371
alice > lotus > luna > diana > phi
prove me wrong
>>345397267
>this game is fucking awful
It's actually pretty fucking great if you go into it with the mindset that Uchi lost his fucking marbles and you want to see just how bonkers he's become over the years.
>>345397371
Did you just bump the competing thread?
>>345397453
i would, but (You) did it for me
>>345396679
I think they can just wake Clover from the cold sleep. At least I hope they do.
>>345397453
Alice is total trash and Lotus is mediocre. You're obviously just choosing by cup size.
>>345397396
You traveled into this thread using your shit abilities.
>>345397613
big tits = best tits
>>345397396
I'mBrother.LAWWWWWL.
>>345397673
modest tits are best tits
>>345397770
we've gone off topic
>>345397587
That's not the Clover stuck in the VLR moonbase who is wondering how to go back to the past.
>>345397891
She could always just SHIFT back to the present bod.
>>345398039
And Alice?
>>345397732
I'm sorry but now I have to destroy your ass with my axe, you traitorous son of a bitch.
>>345398106
The same thing. RESONANCE lol
>>345397837
I already told you, my motives are complex
>>345396679
Is it that hard to understand? They used the alien machine to clone them to the past it's pretty obvious.
999
>beautiful pixel art
>good writing
vlr
>decent 3d models with minimalistic animations
>decent writing
ztd
>shit 3d models american tier animations
>shit writing
>>345398039
And now there's a confused Clover stuck in a moonbase wondering what the fuck just happened.
but who was termites
>>345396679
>Zero Budget Dilemma
>Zero Camera Dilemma
>Zero Meme Dilemma
>Zero Times Three Dilemma
>Baby Zero Dilemma
>I'm Zero Dilemma
>I Never Asked for This Dilemma
>>345398239
>alien time fax machine
Did Uchi get super high when writing shit one day, and then just NEVER proofread anything?
>>345398285
>>beautiful pixel art
Only the backgrounds are good. Sprites are fucking shit even for DS standards.
>>345398454
>Zero Meme Dilemma
objectively false
>>345398390
It can't be a happy ending for all Clovers
Life is just unfair that way
>>345398454
>>345398436
Kyle.
>Zero Meme Dilemma
Man, these fantastic memes are the one good thing to come out of this game.
>>345396679
Clover is the best!
>>345398039
I remember when only a few people could shift, and you needed two people to utilize the morphogenetic field. Good times.
>>345398482
I feel like people didn't catch one of the sub themes of the game was what it means to travel through time. The shifting, cloning, quantum computing, and mind hacking were all different ways of accomplishing the same thing. I thought it was sort of a neat philosophy thing going on.
>2 worst characters from VLR
I can't believe anyone actually gives a shit but they obviously used the transporter, Akane is a shit as usual and made it seem like they would be going back themselves.
I really liked the game until I finished it and came here. Now I'm pissed off and want my money back.
>>345398526
>his mind hack ability is NEVER used outside of demonstration
What was the point?unless you're telling me he mindhacked every decision in the game to force all outcomes for his plan
>>345398285
>vlr
>decent 3d models with minimalistic animations
Oh I am laffin'. As shitty as ZTD animations were, it's still a step up from the shit VLR had.
>>345398656
>but they obviously used the transporter
are you retarded?
>>345398712
No, the animations worked better in VLR. The models were better in ZTD though.
>>345398285
>ZTD models
>worse than VLR models
The animations are also technically better but only because you have to compensate given how ZTD is fully animated, so it was stretched thin. Only the faces are significantly bad
>>345398482
he just watched the prestige
>>345398712
>I care about the graphics!
ZTD target audience everyone.
Guess reading is bad too, at least now you got fully shitty animated sequences you can turn into memes.
Kys
>>345398704
He(or the player) mind hacked Diana to choose to betray at 13:30 and the Acid shower because Diana would never do those things and she doesn't understand why she did it. Also that ending where he hacked Eric to kill everyone because fuck why not.
>>345398784
Are you?
>>345398704
>spoilerThat's exactly what happened. The Execution and Decontamination scenes where people say they "don't know why I voted/pressed X" was Delta MIND HACC-ing them to do something they didn't want to.
>>345398704
Not every decision, but some of them. Remember when Diana chose to ignore the Gabletter and execute Q team and didn't know why?
Mind hacc.
>>345398924
Why would Akane have the transporter in the first place?
Why would she conjure Sigma and Phi from the past to train their minds for mindjump when she could just fax old Sigma back to the past, or even better fax the fucking Axelavir to cure radical 6?
>>345398704
He mindhacked to force out of character decisions to create more timelines.
>>345398285
>999
>>good writing
wew
It's serviceable at best, nothing astounding.
at first i avoided these threads because i didn't want to get spoilered, but i knew this game was going to be shit when junpei was introduced as an edgy teenager and when he mentioned the morphogenetic field within the first 10 minutes of the game.
>>345399130
Bad writing.
>>345398649
They were, except they were all either grounded in some sort of real science or they were led up to.
>Shifting
Basically just the evolution of ESPer and the morphogenetic field, which were both elaborated on and alluded to in depth in their respective games.
>Cloning
A real life science application that has already been used in a previous game after having been alluded to with FTS's massive amounts of followers and Alice's kidnapped father.
>Quantum Computing
A real life studies and a theoretical occurrence, and a gradual extension of Shrodinger's Cat.
>Mind Hacking
A bit of a stretch, but Brother was already known to be able to read minds and touch the minds of others, since he was so in tune with the morphogenetic field
>Alien Time Fax Machine
No alluding to it, no foreshadowing, and the official explanation is literally "aliens lol".
Everything else, even Mind hacking, felt at least a little grounded in the game's reality. The Alien fax machine just comes across as a deus ex machina.
>>345399130
Because Akane's a liar and she's probably working with Delta
>>345398982
>>345398921
>>345399067
That suddenly makes a lot of sense.
>>345399130
Complex motives
Truth is that she was probably working with Brother since she even went to the meeting
>>345399130
In universe, no one fucking knows.
In our universe, it's cause Uchi's a hack.
are the puzzles at least fun? everyone is complaining about the plot, no one talks about the puzzles
>>345399404
>>345399497
Akane collaborating with Delta in the VLR timeline actually makes way more sense than the alternative.
>>345400097
I found them to be a lot easier in ZTD than the other games. I thought they were still fun though
>>345400097
Hit-and-miss.
I enjoyed most of them, but there's also the lowest amount of puzzle rooms in the series. 13 compared to 999/VLR's 16There's also not a single puzzle room on the True End timeline.
>>345400097
They're okay, not as good as VLR but better than 999's. Not enough of them though, and the game sorely lacks a final puzzle room. There's a lot more mini-game stuff which seems to be divisive.
>>345399756
Why is Airy so hot in that forme jfc
>>345396975
what poisoned morphogenetic field?
>>345400097
Not really.
They're all really easy. The transporter room one, supposedly the hardest one in the game, is the only one that requires non-linear thinking, and even then it's still pretty easy.
Honestly, the hardest part in the puzzle rooms is occasionally having to play "find the pixel", which gets REALLY bad on the 3ds version and kinda bad on every other version.
>>345400097
The puzzles were easy-Professor-Layton grade. Figuring out what to click on in rooms was the harder part
I just finished and I have some questions
>Why does Q get his name retconned to Sean? I understand that's his real name but how does everyone retroactively know that?
>Why the fuck did Delta never appear until the very end if he was supposedly there the whole time? Was he just not a participant? Which team was he with? Why did nobody acknowledge his existence at all?
>Why doesn't anyone care that Mira is a confirmed serial killer? Why doesn't Eric care that Mira killed his mom?
Daily reminder that people only like 999 because they had to replay it 5 or more times to get the trtue ending.
Literal brainwashing
>>345396679
I'd think it would be funny if Sigma and Akane forgot about them like they forgot about Kyle. Just All Ice for an eternity.
>>345400390
From the Wiki (which is paraphrasing Dio's and Akane's explanation of Brother in VLR)
"Brother has a mysterious special power, described as being able to "touch the thoughts of other people and see into them".
Unfortunately, it left him constantly exposed to the negative and corrupt side of humanity and all of humanity's worst aspects. This fueled Brother's misanthropy and disgust of humanity.
Brother realized humanity was being severely brainwashed and these contagious toxic thoughts were poisoning the morphogenetic field, like a cancerous consciousness. He realized this led to all kinds of negative emotions (impure thoughts lead to impure manifestations in reality, and impure manifestations in reality lead to impure thoughts, like a vicious cycle). He also realized this brainwashing dated back a long, long time - more than hundreds and thousands of years - since time immemorial. This explained the poor current state of humanity in his lifetime - all of the genocide and wars.
Of course, Brother could also read the hearts and minds of children and saw their purity and innocence in comparison to adults. Unfortunately, Brother saw the same toxic poisoning of children's consciousnesses as they grew into partially corrupt teens and then into corrupt adults."
Basically, in VLR Brother was being set up to be a well-intentioned extremist who wanted to save the Morphogenetic field via whatever means necessary. In ZTD, he got Zig-Zagged into "always the good guy", and the poisoning of the morphogenetic field was brushed aside and never mentioned.
>>345400727
Delta is Q, not Sean
I just finished the game, but I didn't understand anything. What should I play next, VLR or 999?
>>345400727
Q was always used to refer to Delta, never Sean, Sean was only ever called Sean.
>>345400753
I thought being able to memorize and abuse puzzle solutions to get through rooms faster on subsequent playthroughs was a cute meta touch. Still obnoxious even with fast-forward on an emulator though
>>345400972
>played ZTD without playing any of the others first
Go full retard and play them all backwards
ZTD > VLR > 999
>>345400965
Okay, so why up until that point was everyone calling the kidbot Q?
>>345400474
>Transporter Room
>Ok, Base-13 converted to Base-10, easy enough... now what?
>Have to click on the middle of the nucleus
>No indication given whatsoever
>Robot Room
>Have to click on the specific button that resets the timer
>Have to click on the single fucking pixel that detects as "having pressed button"
If the puzzles were better, I could have maybe forgiven that shit, but that was fucking awful.
>>345397486
ZTD is fun. I don't think people will argue that. What people argue is that it was a shitty way to end the series since it left so many plot holes.
>>345401105
They weren't
>>345401105
They didn't
>>345401105
Nobody was.
>>345400727
Not sure what exactly your first question is asking, but Sean never gets referred to as Q.
Delta is participating with Q team, but bad writing makes it difficult to figure that out. There is actually a tonne of hints that there is a 4th participant in Q team, but there is just way too many contradictions.
Bad writing, who the fuck knows. Delta makes he participate, kills her in one timeline, and lets her go free in the ending.
>>345400727
Like the files say, Sean is never actually called Q by any of the characters. The player is just being tricked by stuff like the artbook calling him Q.
Delta is mentioned by the characters, but he's never onscreen because you, the player, are seeing through his eyes.
Cause Eric's a loser
>>345396679
any other good games like this? 999 started to go full retard with nonmelting ice, but the premise and the rest of it was cool, overall
I really like this genre. radical dreamers is still one of my fave games
>>345400972
I guess start with 999 then VLR but at this point whatever
>>345400727
They never called him Q, they knew he was Sean from the start (well, at some point between the coin flip and the voting). Delta was in Q team and everyone knew him as Q the deaf old man in the weelchair.
>Why doesn't anyone care that Mira is a confirmed serial killer? Why doesn't Eric care that Mira killed his mom?
Her tits were too great.
>>345401105
Because it was a misleading Narrative.
No one called the kid Q ever. Anytime they said anything about Q they were talking about the Blind/Deaf man in the wheelchair that was ALWAYS JUST OUT OF THE CAMERA'S REACH.
Yes, it's a completely bullshit twist. Even worse, there was no reason for him to be there, since his mindhacking works from a distance, and there was no interaction he had with the teams since he was fucking blind and deaf.
No, there's no real way to defend this. Uchi probably stroked out.
>>345401174
>>345401017
>>345400965
So Q team had 4 participants in every timeline? Or was Sean not part of the decision game?
>>345401105
They didn't. You just thought they were.
>>345401265
You're seeing it through his eyes, which see it through his glasses, which see it through the computer, which see the world from a third person perspective. That just makes it all the more retarded that Delta doesn't appear in front of the camera.
The stupidest thing about the Delta always being Q is that delta had no reason to call himself Q in the game. The name Delta is just as valid to be used, but he changed it to Q so that it'd fit the twist. It's literally only so the amnesiac gets a one letter name (at least from the players point of view). Like, even if we just assumed Sean was called Delta, nothing would change and it would keep the twist the same in for the player, actually making it more mindscrewy. But it's because they wanted to think the amnesiac didn't know his name that they Delta is called Q
>>345401289
Infinity Series (Ever17/Remember11)
Danganronpa
Higurashi/Umineko
Steins;Gate
Ghost Trick
Root Double
I've played almost none of these just been collecting the answers from whenever people ask this question in this thread, check them out I guess
i'm beyond mad
>>345401289
Google ice 9, snail. Fits the themes of the game like the other science/philosophy/etc. discussions in the game
And what do you like: the puzzles, being trapped in a blah, death games, science gone wrong, time travel, all of the above?
>>345401435
Eric was super suspicious of Sean specifically because he shouldn't be there, his name wasn't connected to the x-passes. I think they accepted him as a stand-in for Q who they thought was too handicapped to properly participate.
>>345401658
I've heard Root Double is extremely mediocre
>>345401435
Yes, sort of, he had a watch but only Mira, Eric and Q gave X passes
>>345401435
Killing Sean does not give an X-pass.
>>345401289
Like this? As in space-time science fictiony? Not realllly.
About the closest I can think of that's good is Ghost Trick, and it's a pretty far departure from the Zero Escape series.
If you're looking for better VN's, try:
Ghost Trick
Hotel Dusk
Last Window: The Secret of Cape West
Steins; Gate
Danganrompa is mentioned a lot, but it's pretty hit and miss too. It knows it's silly and it runs with it, so if you're down for a not too serious game then it's ok.
Can someone remind me why Phi thought Diana voted one way and Sigma thought she voted the other? I didn't think anyone had changed timelines at that point.
>>345401387
He is the supreme hacker.
>>345401926MIND HACK
>>345401118
>Robot Room
>Have to click on the specific button that resets the timer
>Have to click on the single fucking pixel that detects as "having pressed button"
This one had me stuck for awhile. Had to watch a youtube video and even then I wasn't clicking on the right pixel. Fuck that.
>>345396679
How can 999 Clover be so objectively superior?
>>345401627It would be an issue with Diana, when she named the baby. She probably wouldn't pick a name that matched an old man she met, or she might have reasoned out who was behind it all.
>>345401118
>Base-13 converted to Base-10
It wasn't even that, was it? I spent 20 minutes on that retarded puzzle and ending up with 6 digit numbers
>>345401826
Let's not pretend suspecting Sean even makes sense.
>>345401627
There's actually no reason for Delta to even be a participant in the game.
It doesn't help him at all. It doesn't further his plans. He doesn't interact with anyone or do anything in a way that he couldn't have done via observing instead and just occasionally coming out of the woodworks to laugh in their faces.
But then, the other twist (that all the wards are the same and everyone's awake at the different times) is the same thing. So everyone's been in the same areas the whole time. So what? The ONLY difference it made is that C-Team gets a slightly unfair advantage when it comes to pressing the Yellow button. And that's it. That's the only thing that it changes, and that doesn't even ultimately matter.
>>345401926
Morphogenetic field memory shenanigans.
>>345401627
Maybe Q was used to throw you off and make you think of Quark. At least it made me wonder if Sean was Quark somehow
>>345401926
I think that either Phi or Sigma jumped from the execution timeline, but couldn't remember that, either because of shifting memory loss ala VLR, or the drugs erasing that. Mainly because in that timeline they mention to jump but it's never explained, just like the voting you mentioned. It's probably wrong, but I connected those two dropped plots to get one completed one
>>345402194
Clover is a cutie.
>>345402451
Throwing "you" off is no motivation for in-universe characters.
>>345401836
It starts pretty great - like a longer 999 first playthrough on a bad end - but drops the ball in the end since the writer(s) insisted on ano one's bad, everyone becomes BFFs, and friendship is magicTrue End
>>345401658
ty
>>345401787
I like the immersion, being forced into a role where your choices could get you killed and you can't fight your way out, and where you are trying to figure out another character's motivations, etc.
it feels more like roel playing than the rpg genre. also, puzzles are fun.
>>345401893
ty I'll check them out
>>345402267
It was that or the reverse, but I'm not turning on the game again, let alone to find that out.
The machine did it for you anyways. The horizontal one was Base 13 (or 10), and when you cranked the lever the vertical one would display the base 10 (or 13) conversion.
But yeah, that part was easy. The complete lack of any indication that you A. Got the right answer and B. HAD TO CLICK ON THE FUCKING NUCLEUS was bullshit.
>>345402487
>Holy shit we gonna die
>Let's shift into a timeline where we're still stuck in this game
>>345402328
I assume he is just autistic.
>Life isn't fair! But I am fair so I will put myself into the game like those other people!
>>345402575
Was her hypnosis ability ever explained?inb4 MIND HACC
>>345402606
Does it have to be?
>>345402267
The spinny wheel thing was just a way to convert from one base to another.
>>345402328
Yeah. I agree, but the fact that he is there, and also his name is changed is the icing on the bullshit cake. And the ward twist was important in bringing the teams together, which was required for bot the Q-2 end and the True end. Not to mention it allowed Mira to function as the piranha in the Koi pond
>>345396679
Akane literally users the alien transporter on alice and clover. Not hard to understand.
>>345402619
>I like the immersion, being forced into a role where your choices could get you killed and you can't fight your way out, and where you are trying to figure out another character's motivations, etc.
>it feels more like roel playing than the rpg genre. also, puzzles are fun.
You should play Ghost Trick certainly. In fact, I would recommend that next, as it's a great game that will wash away the awfulness of ZTD.
After that, any of the lists you linked to are good.
>>345402606
Actually Kyle was in the quantum computer and we were playing as him
>>345396679
>Clover coming back to the past from VLR
Who stated that this was going to happen? I actually dont remember this, I thought they were shit out of luck
>>345402606
Still, it was the entire motivation for the Q-Team twist
>>345402328
His motives are so complex he doesn't understand them sometimes
>>345402730
She didn't hypnotize anyone.
Junpei just broke after hearing that Akane was dead.
Junpei just breaks in a different way than Akane. She goes full berserker, while he just BSOD's.
>>345402730
>hypnosis ability
What are you talking about? She was anesper who could read/send info from/to the morphogenetic field. Be more specific.
>>345402965
>After playing all the zero escapes, I went and bought AJ and Ghost Trick
inb4 AJ sucks, I liked the first 2 cases, Wright games have a nice atmosphere
>>345402912
>Alien Fax Machine
Get it right.
Also, that doesn't explain anything about the Shrodinger's Cat they were referring to.
>Zero makes a big deal over a snail fucking everything up
>A file suggests that this snail was actually controlled by a parasite (leucochloridium)
>If this is true, then the parasite is at fault here, not the snail
>Zero never mentions this
...What are we even supposed to get from this? I know that Carlos is called a snail by Zero and Akane brings up the leucochloridium to explain his behavior when he makes an uncharacteristic decision, but I know that this is meaningless.
Is it just some sort of retarded parallel to how Zero mindhacked everyone to make horrible decisions?
>>345402303
It kind of does if you don't know the details behind who he is. His identity being obscured alone is suspicious enough, there's no guarantee he's telling the truth about his amnesia and remembering the amount of specific things he recites makes that claim seem dubious. His name isn't on the x-pass board and he wasn't part of the Mars experiment so the only person who could have put him there is the mastermind, meaning he probably serves some goal of the mastermind or is the mastermind himself. Yes, it is a little doubtful a child could be a threat but the amount of unknown surrounding his character overshadows that a bit.
If they wanted to stop the spread of Radical-6, wasn't enough to just -not- send Sigma into his past self so he keeps living a normal life and never goes to Rhizome, never fucks Diana and Delta is never born?
>"Who killed Junpei?"
>btw it couldn't have been anyone on Q team
I just want Mira to be called out on her shit and it never fucking happens, even after everyone knows the truth. Fuck this gay morphogenetic field.
>>345403320
It's exactly that
>>345403213
They were both sent back into the past, and not sent back into the past. The copy is the same them in the past, while also them never having been returned to the past.
Schrodingers cat
>>345403104
The way it was described made it seem like much more than that. Another abandoned idea maybe.
>>345403109
The 999 bad ends.
>>345403398
No because he already did that
>>345403213
Right, the epilogue brought up two Clovers and two Alices existing at the same time from going back being a paradox that had to be resolved through "Schrodinger's cat" somehow. Zero Time Dilemma completely ignores the idea of that being a problem and goes nuts with Sigma and Diana running into their dead selves and the two Carloses.
Why didn't Delta make copies of himself? He had the fax machine long enough to make 23 copies of himself, surely they would have been helpful to have around. And that's not even counting if he sent himself into the past to acquire the machine even earlier, and kept doing so all the way until the German acquisition of the machine. He could have had like 200 Deltas
>>345396679
But anon, they explained that.SCHRODINGER'SCAT
>>345403320
Mindhacking is the same as a parasite controlling the brain.
A parasite caused a snail to be in the pathway, which led to the death of six billion/death of mankind.
Mindhacking caused it to be saved.
>>345402730
I kind of dismissed it but I wouldn't be surprised if she had some kind of hypnosis considering the variety in esper powers that keep popping up, we've already got transmitters, receivers, shifters, and mind hackers, and people who can do three out of four of those things.
>>345400320
>spoiler
Seriously, what the fuck was up with that? No sense of finality when reaching the endgame. No sudoku tearjerker, no annoying as fuck, but still cool Q roomdicepuzzle. I think the only thing that could really be considered "endgame" was getting the information necessary to open the Force Quit Box, but that doesn't count for shit.
This is the timeline where Akane cuts the couch in half.
So Delta just had a spare couch around?
the ending shot with Mira and Eric standing with all the other "heroes" was just pathetic
>>345403697
>Q roomdicepuzzle
I had to get my mom to help solve that
>>345403724
Behold, the power of the moving truck.
>>345403724
>he can have a size 34 blue button and two huge bombs but two couches break your immersion
>>345403724
Obviously. He had to make sure nobody knew the wards were the same.
This is a fireman
>>345403724
Yes.
>>345403380
That should say Heart Ripper's murders
>>345403724
>even the screen monitor is white
why?
also shouldn't the system stop working when it got cut with a chainsaw?
>>345400320
But anon, that was the point. The true end only occurred by refusing to play the game.
Why was Gab killed in that timeline?Because he killed Junpei/Mira and is Zero?
>>345403807
Lol seriously? That's both embarrassing and awesome. Did she help you with any other puzzles?
>>345403963
Also when PENALTY slammed his head against the wall and made a fucking hole
>>345404003
because kyle is gab and delta mindhacked his memories and found his true identity
he killed him so he couldn't shift to happy end because delta is uchi and uchi can't let good things happen to kyle
>>345403520
>The 999 bad ends.
I honestly don't know what you are talking about. I don't remember her saying that at all.
>>345402730
I like to believe she does have latent mind hacks, if only to make mind hacks in general less silly. There's her 999 ends and her seducing Sigma as proof, and I plan to comb the 999 and VLR remakes to form some sort of cohesive theory.
>>345404003
>>345403963
>>even the screen monitor is white
same reason projector screens are white
I still don't understand Sleeping Beauty paradox but apparently it's been disproved?
Was there even a point to Monty Hall besides the gas mask? I felt like a lot of these had no thematic relevance like the previous games did.
>>345404193
C'mon anon. It's obvious that it's just she's sexy and they're horny. Don't overthink it. It's hardly cohesive
>>345403906
...and?
>>345404045
Just the stuff in Q room.
Honestly if I knew she would be into the puzzles I would have got her in on it earlier.
>>345404401
>that filename
Carlos 2 is k confirmed
>>345404202
I tried typing in Gab during the Mexican standoff.
>>345403675
>Mindhacking saved humanity
You sure about that, anon?
>>345403697
>Q roomdicepuzzle
Fuck the dice puzzle. I just gave up and looked up the solution after spending 20 minutes on it
>>345404252
The sleeping beauty one was just a metaphor for the whole game. It's supposed to click when Sean says "What if they asked them a thousand times?"
The thousand times is the whole game resulting from guessing the coin face wrong while guessing right just ended it
>>345404252
The idea behind sleeping beauty is that basically, if there are three options
Monday Heads
Monday Tails
Tuesday Tails
Is there a two in three chance that the coin was tails?
There might have been some level of thematic relevance to Sleeping Beauty, but Uchi probably just thought a monty hall game would be cool.
>>345404548
...Oh shit, I just noticed that the one I replied to is "Carlos 2." Dammit. I fell right into that one.
>>345404627
Only if you think humanity isn't worth saving.
>>345404346
What? Uchikoshi gets to make an entire dumb game about mind hacking, but I can't make a single dumb theory about it? That'ssimply unfair.
>>345404480
Cute. Let her play 999 and see if she likes it. ZTD, eeeeh not enough high quality puzzles probably.
>>345404982
You can make it, but it will never be valid. Delta states mind hacking is a result of his very specific epigenetics.
Still, I wont stop you believing it. I just don't understand why you would want to when it jus complicates maters even more, and raises more plotholes than one would llke
>>345404480
>>345405184
How bout Professor Layton? Then anon can discuss even more ridiculous plot tweests
Post best girls of their respective games
we've gone off topic
>>345403807
Was she your first option to get help from or did she bail you out after seeing you struggle?
>>345405530
This is a zero escape thread
>>345405642
This anon gets it
>>345405642
Was the topic worth sticking to?
>>345405642
Time for Gabposting
>>345405725
this is an uchikoshi thread make no mistake
Is it possible to win the gas mask segment by sticking with your choice?
>>345405716
She bailed me out.
>>345405184
>>345405470
I'll look into these. Thanks for bringing this back up for me, anons.
>>345406090
It's always in 5
>>345406083
>Uchi thread
>Title is ZTD
No it isn't. Nobody wants to talk about the infinity series any way
>>345406090
Yeah, it's random, not rigged. Though you only have a 10 percent chance to win that way.
>>345404003
You know too much.
>>345406203
you should be well aware that the same 50 people are here as they have been for a while
don't be a dummy, anon
>>345405903
You're just there so people can say "old man" and Uchikoshi can say "Ho ho ho, they were actually talking to Delta!"
>>345406384
Clearly the answer is Zero. Duh.
>thought I had the All-American Carlos image saved
>turns out every time I saw it I thought I already had it
Life is simply unfair
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfOsjVT8mlU
>>345406090
I failed that part 3 fucking times. First by switching, second by staying and third by switching again.
Why does Uchi love firefighters and the letter Q?
>>345407092
>Q door
>Q room
>Q himself
>QCD, Quantum Computer Dome; alsoTeams QCD
Any other Q's?
>>345401289
>999 started to go full retard with nonmelting ice
Does anybody know if Ice-9 was explicitly said to be real or just a red herring?
>>345406932
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zAU7tZnCcQ
>>345407092
999 in japanese is kyu kyu kyu
>>345406932
ZTD is the best meme game I've played
>>345407370
Alice wasn't actually Allice so I guess there's nothing to suggest it's real.
>>345407353
> Kid Q in Ever17
>>345407394
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUneNc_dnm4
>>345406846
p-please?
>>345407394
I didn't get this ending. Why was Carlos the reason six billion died? I thought it was because Diana refused to kill Phi when she was infected when they escaped.
>>345406846
this one?
>>345407792
>Diana's voice
wew
Glad I stuck with the filthy weeb option desu.
>>345407891
I guess because he didn't stop Zero. I don't know, it was all Diana's fault. Carlos did nothing wrong.
>>345407891
Why are you here if you haven't finished the game?
> 999 references the Necronomicon
> ayyyy lmao machine was discovered in Antarctica
Shiiiiii-
>>345407918
Thaat works but I was thinking of the in-game screenshot one
>>345407982
That's like playing Metal Gear in Japanese
>>345408030
I did. Carlos was the snail or some shit. I really don't get it, hence why I'm asking a question.
>>345407792
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfmeOqq9Ffw
>>345408126
>>345407918
>only 40 stars
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>345408126
Non-text version
Why was Clover only a punspouter in one or two rooms
Being happy and making shitty jokes would have been a much better character than Alice Lite
>>345407891
I think Akane and Junpei were just angry that Carlos couldn't just prematurely stop Zero even though it might cause a time paradox.
>>345404401
god he's so perfect
he looks like a stripper
is there a man like this in real life?
>>345408309
Awesome, thanks
>>345406932
>>345407394
>>345407792
>using the shitty English dub
>>345408442
I think we can make this exploitable somehow.
>>345408519
I don't think it's possible for someone to have such a blocky head in real life.
>>345407918
>blue eyes
THEY ARE FUCKING GREEN
>>345408216
Whoops. I misread what you said. You didn't *understand* why it was Carlos' fault.I don't either and think Akane's and Junpei's blaming of Carlos is stupid. Akane and Junpei were already in the fucked timeline. They could have transfered to the timeline where Sigma and Diana were fucking instead but didn't.
>>345408552
You aren't going to be memeing with Japanese VA.
>>345408552
MEME dub for a MEME game. Like Metal Gear
>>345396679
Not to mention we'll never learn anything more about All-ice. Total dogshit that this plotline was dropped. Why would Uchi tease it for two games and then drop entirely in Zero Turd Dilemma?
>>345408216
Some people just really hate how seemingly dumb he comes off at that part and mistakenly think that Delta hasn't been tracking the 2nd/"10 Months" Carlos.
So, they blame him for the entire problem. It helps a lot that Junpei and Akane do the same to an extent.
The reality is that there's probably a timeline does exist where he did try to stop Zero.
>Zero constantly talks at a volume lower than the music
Who was on sound for this game?
>>345409086
Professional ice cream salesmen.
>>345409086
Yeah, that shit was annoying. I remember reading the reviews and thinking that they were probably overexaggerating the audio/pixel issues for the 3DS version, but man there is a lot of technical shit wrong with this game. I thought I would have been able to look past it, but it made a mediocre game at best even worse.
>>345408926
He used an amnesia drug and forgot most of the previous games
>>345408926
All-ice was all-ways a red herring.
>>345409283
Rest assured that it's in the PC version too.
>>345398454
Zero Kyle Dilemma is by far the best.
do NOT bully zero time dilemma
>>345409086
It's foreshadowing that he's deaf and doesn't realize how weirdly he talks/FLAWLESS LOGIC
>>345409329
At least you can make out Sigma's emblem on his shirt. Shit was a blur on the 3DS, the textures were absolutely abysmal.
>>345408926
All-ice was only teased in 999 and VLR answered it (it wasn't real).
Fuck, Kill, Marry,Transport To Ten Months Ago
>>345409489
Zero Time Dilemma had the largest number of staff of the three games. And before the release, Uchikoshi was bragging about how much better the graphics and puzzles were than the previous games.
>>345399130
>Why would Akane have the transporter in the first place?
>https://twitter.com/Uchikoshi_Eng/status/751346867972083713
Honestly, it's cause Uchi's a fucking hack.
>>345409582
But what about__Delta__?
>>345409548
I meant the the audio mixing and Zero's quiet voice. Even after I went into settings to make sure the music wasn't louder than every character, I could still only barely hear Zero. The visuals for the game were alright.
>>345409489
And don't forget, you people who played 999 and VLR are NOT the audience
>>345409645
lmao, dodged the question like a champ
>>345408678
>Carlos being green-eyed
Before ZTD came out I said the same to people who were arguing that he was a Left clone and they blamed it on the art style+insisted that he was blue-eyed. I gave up after a while.
