>no good MMOs out now
>none coming in the foreseeable future
Life for NEETs is pretty rough these days.
What are your nolife time sinks at the moment, /v/?
>>345348949
Legion looks pretty good mate.
>>345351420
>>345348949
All the good ones are dead.
there's an SMT imagine private server being worked on
>>345351420
>Legion looks pretty good mate.
>>345348949
>What are your nolife time sinks at the moment, /v/?
depends on what you are looking for. I'm currently NEETing on ESO and had tons of fun with it.
>>345348949
Started playing Wildstar today. The Mechari are pretty cool, but I can't seem to really get into the game. Something about it just seems to be lacking. World is pretty empty of players and it takes 2 hours to get into a dungeon. Quests are pretty meh. I like the path system though, thought that was pretty cool.
>>345352563
>no City of Heroes
get your shit together;_;
is LOTRO any good
be honest with me
>>345353558
Turbine's been making it more and more like WoW over time, but I'm told it still has great RP community and well, you can play in Middle-earth. Problem is Turbine recently transitioned into a mobile studio and players are shitting bricks thinking whether they'll even renew the LotR license in 2017.
>>345353558
it was at launch
it sucks now because they turned it into a WoW clone
>>345351420
it's always been interesting to watch and compare how everquest 2 couldn't keep up with the times like wow did. it did not age well because of the art style.
>>345352563
>Lineage 2
I feel bad that I didn't get to really enjoy this game. There was a lot of shit going on in L2 but as a retarded 12 year old there was only so much I could really wrap my mind around.
I made all of my money by running monster trains on bots and stealing their gear before a patch stopped items in your inventory from dropping on death.
I started playing FFXI again a couple months back.
>>345352563
Is Aion still alive?
>>345348949
I had a decent playthrough of new vegas for around 30 hours /without dlcs. Try something with more story and decent gameplay. currently playing gw2 but life is hard if you a f2p. Your can only play the warrior if you want to do some high level fractals or raids and thats it, all other classes need the addon and fuck anet I wont give them a single dime
>>345352563
>Wildstar didn't even make the cut
>>345351420
If professions.
>>345354049
Nice, but the WoW screenshot seems on lowest.
>>345348949
F F X I V
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>>345352563
EVE would be fun if there was more to do than grind and sit on beacons/gates waiting for fun.
>>345356328
that's just wow being wow. everquest 2 was age of conan of its own time visually.
>>345353317
Gameplay depth.
>>345353317
The people working on Wildstar were shockingly amateur. Bad decision after bad decision.
>>345352563
>he didn't like maplestory
kys
>>345356732
I heard that most of Wildstars problems weren't from the game design developers but the poor management lead of the dev team. The team was poorly led which led to rushed decisions and last minute changes which ultimately impacted the game.
>>345352563
Swtor nowadays is good. Lot of content, good story and the leveling is 100% story mode and don't require a single fetch quest. PVP is fun, starship pvp is madness and the PVE is also ok with a lot of raids and hard content.
>>345356941
I've heard the same. But you can see stuff in-game too. They completely replaced the tutorials that take place on the Arkship in exchange for a super bland VR thing. And then once you hit the planet, these characters reference stuff that happened on the Arkship that you never saw.
>>345348949
I've been trying to find a solid one and it's been cutting my life to pieces.
>ArcheAge
Started out promising, very comfy boat rides. Then you find the PvE stays shit forever, the PvP is kind of a fucking mess with an even worse flag system, and to make any sort of progress you need one of the extremely limited spots of land that can be taken by bots on the other side of the world. Trion decided to respond to the many problems by delaying promised content and fucking it further in the ass with the cash shop. Didn't last more than a month.
>FFXIV
All the same problems I had with retail WoW: it's pretty much a singleplayer game with a dungeon matchmaker. There is very little that drives players together until maybe at the absolute endgame when you want to do hard mode versions of raids. It has many cool comfort features, well designed boss fights and dungeons but ultimately it felt like just another linear singleplayer RPG, especially with the fucking mandatory main story quest.
>Nostalrius
Actually sunk four months into it and then RIP
>Tree of Savior
Just fuck my shit up and don't stop. Tries to sell itself as a RO successor, but it is anything but. Literally 240 levels of solo theme park questing (at which point you only form grind parties because the areas at this point are simply unfinished zones filled with placeholder enemies), the shittiest loot system ever conceived by an allegedly thinking team of humans, and countless performance problems. Since release nothing has been added but restrictions on real players in a misguided attempt to stop gold farming bots, except these restrictions are more like horrible inconveniences that bots don't care about because, you know, THEY'RE BOTS.
Guess I'll try TERA now?
>>345357273
it's still a WoW clone with a retarded story
>>345348949
FFXIV:HW dude.
>>345357291
There was this NPC after the new tutorial that said "Heard what you did on the Destiny. Pretty impressive,.."
I'm just like "What?" I never did anything. Total disconnect.
>>345357310
TERA mostly suffers from awful balance in both PvE and PvP. There's little reason to ever leave the main cities when you hit max level because the world doesn't have anything worth while in it, so you will wind up using the match making for dungeons a lot.
But the combat is still neat and it's not P2W so you might have some fun
>>345348949
I've been playing FFXIV, it's pretty good if you aren't a jaded MMO person. I don't even like the Final Fantasy series but I was able to get into it.
>>345357310
>Literally 240 levels of solo theme park questing
I don't understand why MMOs still do this. It's such an established and almost stale genre at this point, you really don't need to handhold people through so much of the game.
>>345357552
On the paper it may be a wow clone but when you play it doesn't feel like wow.
I love watching the lightsabers clashing and deflecting blasters. WoW is so static in comparison, there's no reaction for your actions.
Don't bother with XIV, it's shit. The players there now spend more time looking for threads like these to shill the game than actually play the game.
What I want is a game where you can still explore.
Sure make it a theme park, but for god's sake make it have no LFG tool. Make it so people have to TALK to each other. Make huge, empty but atmospheric zones you can waste ages traversing, make players lose themselves figuratively and literally into the game.
Something where wikis and external sites don't exist, and you have to go by hearsay and word of mouth.
Something where you can do other shit than fighting and be the hero all the time.
Anything like that?
>>345357552
Gameplay.
>>345358343
sounds like WoW players
What do you guys think of Champions Online and DC Universe Online?
>>345358381
What you described is impossible in a modern MMO due to how differrent the audience is today compared to 10 years ago.
You will never get a word of mouth exploration MMO because datamining and day one wikis will always exist.
>>345358642
pale imitations
What is Maplestory like these days anyway? Last time I played was 2008.
>>345358332
>tfw not having to manually block lasers and guide movements
>MMO combat
>>345358381
Impossible. The internet made MMOs possible, but also killed them
>>345358642
idk about CO, but DCUO had that crazy not quite fighting game-esque combo system that incidently also had animation cancelling that I believe they ended up intentionally incorporating into gameplay.
F2P was kinda cool since the biggest and main restriction was credits, but there were crafting mats that basically acted as a secondary currency in that case.
World PVP was also kinda cool, different players having different movement styles meant that each had a method of escape that differed from the other. Acrobats could zipline, Speedsters could run away, and flying players could attempt to fly away from fights. 2 man dungeons were also pretty cool,
>>345358870
I'd kill for Outcast combat in an MMORPG, but that ain't happening.
>>345358381
DayShit.
>>345358381
It would be a week before somebody had a detailed map of the entire game on a wiki.
The internet won't allow games like that to exist unless you go No Man's Sky levels of huge and then it's just the same shit repeated a billion times with different colors
>>345358381
Just play FFXIV and never use duty finder, party finder everything or recruit friends you made on your journey. RP servers are excellent for this.
There's a well known guy on my server who is a traveling merchant that is a master crafter in all crafting trades. He can overmeld your high-end gear, craft gear for you to use to help you on your journey, give you advice on which markets are good for what specific items right now, and is more like a interactive NPC than another run of the mill "le epic raid slayer" player that WoW and other MMOs try to make every other player be.
>>345358385
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kkTk4myOAk
Some Jedi Guardian PVP. 1st vid I found on youtube.
>>345348949
PoE
>>345359132
The dcuo devs had a ptr 1v1 dueling bg added and i got a chance to fight them, so that was the highlight of my dcuo experience.
>>345358716
>>345358914
>>345359140
>>345359225
Okay then forget the exploration and the hearsay, just give me something which has large zones, no LFG and a sandboxy nature.Please?
>>345359391
I tried FFXIV, it's far too fast paced and wow-like for my tastes.
>>345359225
>>345358914
>>345358716
Poor guy >>345358381 got BTFO
>>345359614
>it's far too fast paced
most people here say it's too SLOW
>>345359562
Problem with TOR is its engine is utter shit.
>have a planet made for open pvp
>never gets realized because engine starts shitting itself when you have more than 20 players fighting
>>345358381
LFG tool is (almost) unavoidable unless content doesn't require structured groups with limitations, if its like "you can solo or duo all content or have more people" then maybe.
But even when gw2 didnt have a looking for group system, there were websites that substituted it.
>>345359614
I'm sorry anon, that's all I want in an MMO too, but nothing like that exists
>>345359132
>DCUO had that crazy not quite fighting game-esque combo system that incidently also had animation cancelling that I believe they ended up intentionally incorporating into gameplay
Last played, DCUO had MOBA-level ability counts.
There will never be a good MMO again. MMO combat sucks, MMO questing sucks, all MMOs are the same copy and paste shit, there is no variety only endless variations of WoW and everything that was fun once.
MMOs lack creativity and I fear I will never play an MMO again.
>>345356650
>age of conan
Game that sadly got shat on because of rightly shitty launch. What is it with Funcom and MMO launches?
>>345359672
>>345359956
Not on a social interaction level it wasn't.
People here complain about le 2.5gcd meme when saying FFXIV is slow.
It was wow-like in questing, in the way classes work, in how dungeons work, in how groups work, in how zones work... I only got to 15 or so, but all I saw just looked like modern wow to me.
>>345359745
I just have these strange, mixed memories of looking for group during TBC while levelling and it triggers my nostalgia so much.
>>345359808
RIP us.
>>345359614
>FFXIV
>it's far too fast paced
I'm a FFXIV player and that's the first time In my life I've seen somebody saying that.
Also...what does it have that makes it so "wow-like" for you? Not even the gameplay is similar.
>>345359706
That's true. I had much hope in the open world pvp till I reached lvl 50 and experienced how the engine couldn't bear 40 ppl on the same spot fighting.
>>345359987
MMOs lack creativity because there's a huge risk and investment behind developing them.
Many unique MMOs came out before WoW and even after WoW but plenty have gone bankrupt and failed because "it's not WoW" or it deviated too much for the typical MMO formula.
>>345359745
That's wholly conjecture.
>>345360210
>>345348949
MMOs are a dying genre. If people want to play a game with friends online, they just play stuff like LoL or Overwatch now. And those who do still want MMOs just stick to the current big ones now: WoW, FFXIV, TERA, etc. There's no room for new MMOs to succeed now so there's barely any to play or look forward to anymore.
It makes me really sad too, I'm in the same boat as you. Bored NEET that wants a comfy MMO to settle into. But I don't like any of the current ones out right now.
>>345360117
level 15 is hardly an indicator of how the game works, especially if you played on the trial.
class system works nothing like wow, dungeons aren't as faceroll as wow, zones aren't ignored like wow, the only thing similar you can compare to it and WoW are the hotbar combat system but that changes drastically once oGCDs start dumping on you.
>tfw no good PvP-focused MMO on the market
Feels bad man. Most comfy MMO experiences are getting a warband together and just beating face in on the field or in a battleground.
>>345360117
>It was wow-like in questing,
Every MMO has quests. Even non MMO games have quests. That's not being "wow-like"
>in the way classes work
No. There's not a single job in FFXIV that's played remotely like any of WoW's classes. On the paper it's true, "tanks gonna tank, heals gonna heal, dd gonna deal damage" but at the moment of doing it both games are so diferent they can't even be compared.
>in how dungeons work
Lot of MMO's have dungeons. WoW wasn't the first one.
>in how groups work
Every MMO has party/group content. Destiny has also groups. That's not a WoW feature.
>in how zones work...
Every Open world game has zones. Having zones is not a wow feature.
>I only got to 15 or so...
So you don't know fucking nothing. You had 3 skills and spammed one of them at every mob.
>but all I saw just ooked like modern wow to me.
Because both are mmo's and share basic features and that's it.
You are just crying because both share MMO features. That's stupid. Of course they share MMO features...they are both MMOs.
Now see pic related and tell me both games are similar
>>345360840
>Warhammer Online ded
God I miss it, fuck man
>>345358642
>What do you guys think of DC Universe Online?
Worst MMO experience of my fucking life.
>>345357273
The stories are pretty good, KOTFE is actually fun but the current state of the game is anything but good
>Animation bugs from release are still in the game
>No new raids in ages
>Many servers are completely dead AGAIN with no merge in the foreseeable future, this makes many game modes like Starfighter and world boss hunting impossible.
>PvP is still an unplayable joke just like in WoW.
>Crafting hasn't been updated properly for the new 65 level cap
>Barely any cross server functionality
I really want to like SWTOR but it's just so bad.
>>345354049
It got less coverage than wow.
>>345356228
I'm sure it an old image
>>345352704
wut? really? link, pls
>>345348949
Champions Online. It has a top tier building system (if you're Gold member) and the character creation allows me to play all my anthro characters.
FFXIV satisfies all my needs for a MMO
>New major patch content every 3 months
>Top 10 servers are more busy than other MMO besides WoW
>Novice Network chat channel has hundreds of people talking in it whether it's forming groups for dungeons, hunting monsters in the open world, or asking advice from other veteran players
>Can play every class on a single character eliminating the need for alts
>Crafting and Gathering have their own progression system and gameplay involved with high level crafts instead of hit 1 button = guaranteed success
>Can build your own house and have neighbors visit your house or you visit theirs
>Game client doesn't run like unoptimized shit (100+ FPS on a R9 290 with maxed out settings)
>Graphics look really nice in DX11 mode
>Loads of options to customize (UI size or hide features, kb+m or controller keybinds, text settings, spell effect intensity, etc)
The only real criticism I have with FFXIV is the lack of midcore content but that seems to be changing with Deep Dungeons coming in 2 days.
>>345361095
There's a private server going strong. Shit, even got DDoSed recently.
https://www.returnofreckoning.com/
>dat feel when I saw a server go from 150 cap to 1400 cap
>>345358642
Do you want to be a super hero or do you want to be a sidekick/henchmen?
>>345348949
MMOs died with City of Heroes
>Matrix Online emulator NEVER EVER
I just wanna hang out by the MaraC hardline again
>>345361785
>no /vg/ thread for it
That's a bad sign.
>>345348949
How the fuck is Skyforge?
>>345361039
You are incredibly butthurt when someone says they don't like your favorite flavor of shit and DARES to compare it to a different one.
Zones are small and packed, following a theme more than any real world logic. Like WoW's. Exactly the opposite of what I want went asking for in my original post.
Dungeons are get in, spank shit, get out. Through an LFG tool. Exactly the opposite of what I asked for, again.
Classes are the standard holy trinity shit, you are not in a sandbox able to be a merchant or a dancer or a basket weaver for a living and instead have to be a tank/healer/dps. Thus yes, classes are similar to wow no matter how much the rotation differs (bullshit pic btw, I raided during wod as a brewmaster and constantly used at least 20 different skills with 20 more on hand just to react to shit without a fixed rotation).
WoW and FFXIV are INCREDIBLY similar. They are made from the same cloth and follow the same design concepts. Only difference is the implementation. They are not both MMOs, they are both the same KIND of MMOs.
FFXIV is not the kind of game I'm looking for.
>>345361785
>Player Count: 32/1400
Uh
>>345361935
Not him but why? /vg/ threads are cancers and even when the game dies, some how the thread isn't because it becomes a place full of circlejerking and drama.
>>345361785
>ddosed for almost a week now
Why would somebody DDOS a private server
>>345361785
But there's only 32 people online :/
my gym is a great mmo
you guy need to embrace it
>>345361994
it's ok
>>345361935
Not really, WAR wasn't that big with your mainstream when WoW was still king and then it died.
>>345353258
>playing ESO
>>345362189
As I recall, WAR's biggest problem was that it had very little endgame content. Which was actually a big problem for most MMOs coming out trying to cash in on WoW's success.
>>345362075
>>345362126
You know, trick is to keep reading.
>>345362282
>Not playing ESO
>>345362318
there was also the idea that you had "flip zones" to actually access end game proper or you couldn't raid capital cities. not a bad thing on paper, but player base fluctuates and shit so you can't rely on everyone contributing in order to open end game access for a limited number of high-end players.
Eh I'm enjoying Black Desert Online for now, 30 bucks isn't too bad for the amount of content and how much I like the combat
>>345361683
CoX was better.
>>345362282
>>345362394
TESO is actually pretty fucking solid and they've been adding a LOT of meaningful content since the game went B2P. Problem is still a piss poor TES game and average MMORPG at its core.
>>345352563
>SMT Imagine
http://megaten.sesshou.com/wiki/index.php/Thanks_for_All_DBs
>>345362318
I mean, it's just PVP. There was some cool shit like city sieges but at the end of the day its either you're thing or it isn't.
FFXIV is pretty comfy because it lets me be a crafter/gatherer exclusively. I don't like the combat so I don't bother with it. People always want me to craft or gather stuff they need so it's been a nice way to make money in-game and friends.
>>345362667
Yes I know but it gone now because NCsoft was a fucking dick by killing it, and the only private server out there is a RPing Chat room. At the very least, Champions Online cover the character creation, the low level cap, and the building aspect to keep me interested for a long, long time. It helps that it's getting all the updates that it truly need after the update drought of the last couple of years.
>>345362063
If you keep replying to them, these xiv scumbags are just gonna keep arguing and keep doing mental gymnastics to twist their game into something more than shit.
>>345363202
>and the only private server out there is a RPing Chat room
Isn't that a disguise for the real development?
>>345362063
>you are not in a sandbox able to be a merchant or a dancer or a basket weaver for a living and instead have to be a tank/healer/dps
see
>>345363172
no one is forcing you to tank/heal/dps
>>345352563
>guild wars 2
>smiling
take it back NOW
DO IT
>>345360840
>tfw the physical discs and box is still sitting on my desk
>>345363432
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/329294076/#q329318916
Long story short, the dev for that server could make one, but is being stupid about it.
So, why havent there been another Shin Megami online game?
>>345352563
A Realm Reborn is doing pretty well though, every other MMO has shut down/merge servers or gone F2P within a year.
>>345363797
I don't think IMAGINE did very well.
>>345363614
>>no one is forcing you to tank/heal/dps
Nice try scumbag, the game forces you go to through the story as a special snowflake hero for you to be able to do crafting and gathering in HW.
gonna try both these out hopefully one of these are good
>>345355343
Yes and no.
Mostly full of BR tho.
Final Fantasy XI on the Nasomi Private Server
Absolutely love it. Loving the slower paced old school exp.
>>345348949
>no good MMOs out now
what is FFXIV
>>345363432
>>345363790
And here is the reddit thread about it
https://www.reddit.com/r/Cityofheroes/comments/45h1cq/revival/
>>345348949
Albion Online. Amazing for nolife.
>MMO thread
>no TSW
it's like you fucks don't want the hidden gems.
Is Neopets any good?
Heard it went to shit after it got bought up by some other company
>>345364186
If you wanna advertise it, might as well post the full name. I would be glad to try it out.
>>345363979
The story isn't mandatory to do Heavensward crafts. Gathering yes because of the zones but you can easily circumvent that by having someone else gather for you (here's where MMO socialization comes into play!) or just buy it from the marketboard.
>>345364126
A mediocre MMO with poor end game.
>>345352563
>DC Universe but no City of Heroes
>>345363202
If I enjoy fast paced levelling would it be worth getting myself to the equivalent of sub to that game if I was itching to play a super hero mmo?
I recently tried to get into AO again and it's the exact opposite, in terms of just being able to pick up and play if you are not acquainted, leveling is a chore in that sense.
I just want something I can get on and play for a few hours.
>>345363797
Imagine was a pretty niche and complex but grindy game. If a Persona or easier SMT MMO was made I'm pretty sure it won't bring back those who liked Imagine and it wouldn't last that long.
>You will never make a low-level demon like Harpy as strong as Samael in other SMT games
>>345364186
>huge difficulty spike in Transylvania if you haven't built the right kind of character
>second, bigger difficulty spike in Tokyo
I love it but Tokyo killed the game for me
>>345364454
Just stop trying so hard to shill your garbage to people who are clearly not for it, trash. If your game really is that good, you dont need to grovel for new subs so damn much.
>>345364736
I'm just merely correcting your fallacy, no need to have an autism attack anon.
>>345364464
well memed anon, you know it's still better than most of the current MMOs out there, oh wait, you must be probably subed to WoW right now, never mind then, you just have terrible taste
>>345364896
>>345364981
You xiv shills must have some real bad insecurities.
>>345363979
Not really, you can make good money just by selling fieldcrafts and mats pre-HW
>>345364981
>b-but WoW
It doesn't have the worst, but it's far from the best.
>>345365143
t. jaded mmo cuck
>>345365143
>mention one game
>s-stop shillin wahhhhhhhh!!
>you guys are sick of the over saturated market of singleplayer theme park MMOs? You should try FFXIV!
>insult anyone who disagrees
Every thread
>>345348949
>none coming in the foreseeable future
What if the age of MMOs is dead?
>>345365348
more like
>Mention FFXIV in a thread
>wowfags get triggered and start calling everyone a shill
>>345364454
Why is that everytime people say MMOs are antisocial these days and you don't need to group up anymore...people just ignore FFXIVs needs to be social and group up when it comes to crafting anything relevant or progressing past any extreme/savage content?
>>345365462
Like what ?
>>345363172
I have to admit, crafting and gathering is really comfy in this game, and I say that as someone who always fucking hated crafting in most mmos because they were either purely luck based or literally useless and outclassed by dungeon gears.
By the way, do you have any advice on how to level up the other crafting classes I have to 50 without levequests?
Having to wait several weeks for leves for 1 DoH class is seriously annoying.
>>345365543
everquest next
Das Tal will save the genre. It's nothing but ganking and looting in Bloodline Champions form.
>>345365528
You're both insufferable faggots.
>>345365516
Nah, we're entering the age of kickstarted MMORPGs. For good and bad.
You have the option to go back in time and remove one thing, or concept, from all MMOs.
What is it?
The ThemePark, the Holy Trinity, LFG, the death of Galaxies? What do you choose?
>>345365604
no more than you anon
Lineage 2 private Interlude low rate servers. Best MMO that ever was and most likely will be
>>345365575
JUST
>>345365531
because the trial didn't force me to talk or group up so I assume everything about the game is antisocial and soulless.
>>345365648
Remove yoship from existence.
>>345365659
I'm far more bearable than a bunch of ERPing lard asses arguing over whose mediocre themepark is better than the other.
>>345348949
This game cuts all ties with nexon in a few months
y-you'll play it with me then, right /v/?
>>345362920
fuck me
>it will not be long before we meet again
what did they mean by this?
>>345360210
>>345361039
I like how XIV has to constantly shit on WoW to make itself look good. That being said, actually playing the game is braindead as fuck because although you may know your rotation, it doesn't matter because the retards who I guarantee play on console act like they never touched a fucking video game in their life.
I fucking hate XIV's community. I really do.
>>345365565
>how to level up the other crafting classes I have to 50 without levequests?
you can either
-Unlock the Ixal quest in north shroud
-Do your crafting challenges
-Craft things you haven't crafted before for the bonus
>>345364610
Champions Online cover someone a hybrid of action and tab targeting, so if you're not into that, then the game might not be for you. As a f2p players, you are given classes call Archetype that generally just give you a build and you follow it. Compare to Freeform, which can be bought in game or you get tons of it if you sub/pay for the life time sub, you can pick and choose your power to fit however you like about that hero. Leveling wise, you can just hit the GRAB alert (think of them as short dungeons you queue with random players) and do them all day to get to level 40. You could also level up the old fashion way and do the overworld quest.
The only other super hero mmo that is worth trying is Marvel Heroes and you are giving to play as one of the marvel heroes instead of creating your own. The catch is that the playing style is diablo like and if you're into that, I would recommend Marvel Heroes just for this alone and over CO.
DCUO is just a DC fanboy jerking game that you're not a hero or a villain at all.
>>345365531
Because any extreme and savage content is useless? There's really no point in trying to clear it as it released because that's usually all there is for that kind of content and they're gonna get nerfed to the ground by that point. FFXIV thrives on making everything cakewalk for their average player.
>>345365531
Because every MMO but the one I have fond memories of is shit
>>345365720
what
lotro used to be SUCH a good game honestly
;(
>>345365979
Oh fuck I always forgot the ixal tribe quest, thank you for remind me!
>>345365978
no more than wowfags hating themselves, it is really fucking pathetic just to read some of the wow threads on /v/
all MMOs are shit and will always be shit from this point on because everyone will just read a guide on how to make the best cookie cutter character for most efficient damage output or whatever and at that point it just becomes endless grinding and quick dungeons with faceless players you paired up with using a LFG tool
MMOs are only fun when you have no idea what you're doing and are forced to interact with other players in game to get an idea of what to do, or when you want a party
basically this >>345358381 and this >>345358914
unless the developers find a way to somehow stop organized discussion of the game outside of the game (which is obviously ridiculous), a good MMO will never happen.
>you'll never have as much fun as your first MMO
Rest in peace Maplestory.
>>345365991
Nigga Thordan EX has been out since last year and people still beat him in duty finder and party finder with over leveled gear and echo buffs.
Same deal any savage coil.
>>345365986
>cover someone
cover something of*
>>345348949
I ONLY PLAY THE BEST
REMEMBER TO LOVE YOUR DELIAS
>>345366083
Surely you know its been canceled right ?
>>345365986
If you look at the content Cryptic is making for Star Trek Online and Neverwinter Online it's clear they can make good content, problem is original owners of Champions license don't really care what Cryptic is doing in their property. As a result CO is dead in a ditch somewhere.
>>345366136
I've seen WoW threads on /pol/ that were more productive. This board fucking blows.
>>345366209
I miss vindictus, I really do, I wish there was a private server just to raid
>>345366201
Still can't*
>>345365857
>Service transfer
With that game's community and the huge fuckup in Europe I was pretty sure it would've closed down.
>You will never play the best Habbo Hotel clone to ever grace the earth again
>Playing FFXIV
>Start the anima quest line
>It's pretty easy
>Suddenly I need to do around 600 runs of Alexander to get to the next stage
NOPE.
Fucking NOPE.
Fuck this, fuck you, fuck everything.
>>345354504
Yeah, I feel you. When I was younger, I'd mostly create new characters and level them up until level 30 or so, I never truly committed as much I'd like to now.
There are still some servers though I suppose.
>>345362114
by being a salty russian
>>345366390
>Start the anima quest line
I love FFXIV but I have never been able to do a single quest of those, it is extremely boring and pointless to me, unless you are a massive neet, I do not see the point on even trying
>>345354049
It was also bad.
There's that
>>345366136
It's pathetic that you XIV shills instantly equate any XIV hate to wow players. People who have played XIV and hated how it stagnated trying to cater to chucklefucks like you can't exist. Nope.
>>345365978
I bet you're a yuropoor
>>345366165
Which is so weird when you consider that once upon a time guilds jealously guarded secrets. Database sites always existed, but they had very general information because datamining wasn't a thing and everyone stuck to their clique,
>>345366218
what
>>345348949
PSO2 looks neat, but it requires a VPN and translation, so fuck that noise.
>>345366508
Well, if you are a tryhard min-maxer, it's pretty great since you can decide all the stats by yourself making it the perfect weapon.
>>345366508
I never did them besides the Coil unlock because I didn't have the time to do them and I was pretty sure if I did do them, then I would lag behind a stage.
>>345366390
it's 800 if that's your only source of unidentified stuff
>>345366526
sorry for liking a game anon, unlike you that hates everything
>>345352563
>Log onto Dofus a year or so back after a couple years
>Used to play it with friends from school
>All global chats are dead
>Like 3 players in tutorial area
>Not many more in main area
Anyone recommend any MMOs, preferably ones that deviate a little from just warrior, rogue, mage?
>>345366390
It's 600 runs of Alex if you only do that exclusively. You can make it a lot shorter by trading in esoterics, poetics, doing beast tribes, etc.
Took me 3 weeks to get my anima weapon just playing casually a few hours.
>>345352563
>tabula rasa and warhammer bad
Shit taste anon
>>345348949
>What are your nolife time sinks at the moment, /v/?
single player games (everfall and factorio) and lol
downloading tree of life atm
>>345366586
PSO2 doesn't require a VPN, and PSO2 tweaker basically does everything for you, from patching the game to applying the english patches.
All you have to do yourself if make an account, which they have a guide for on their site.
>have a friend you use to play MMORPGs all day with
>knew him since grade schoo
>he decided to grow up
>stuck here trying to play these games alone
i hate being alive, it's so hard to make friends in games, i feel like a total bother
Why does Crowfall have to look like fucking shit? I'm sick of every western mmo looking like fucking dreamworks characters
>>345366526
Dude you must be really fun at parties. What do your friends think of you as a person?
>>345366648
I guess that's true, but I do feel that's a good way to burn yourself out of the game really quick
>>345366742
Warhammer was a literal WoW clone and Tabula Rasa was dead on arrival
>>345366774
>PSO2 doesn't require a VPN
They lifted the block from SEA?
>>345366745
>downloading tree of life atm
Just don't expect RO2. Proper RO2, not that 3D shit they made.
>>345359614
Ultima Online
>>345366907
>I didn't play the game
I think ESO is fun. Please don't kill me.
>>345366890
Yes, that's why I'm really scared of going for it since I have the habits of going full no-life breaindead farm on hard things and it burn me out like crazy.
>>345365543
Uh I don't know, LEGION?!
>>345366774
nah, I tried PSO2 for a while, it is pretty good and graphics are nice, but some of the text on some items and subquests details are still unstranslated
>>345367014
>>345366920
>Wanting to play SEA
Why?
It's the inferior version, is several months (or years now?) late of patches and has less players.
>>345366889
>>345366682
My friend thinks I'm alright. They all quit at the same time as me.
I like how you faggots resorted to passive aggresively attack me instead of putting forth an actual defense though.
>>345366242
Co is pretty much the MMO that help supply Cryptic with money just so they can make STO and NWO, although granted, they fuck both of the mmo up by increasing the level cap. Nonetheless, CO is getting some update to cover some "hardcore" content so those player can do something beside attending the Costume Contest or Rampage all day.
Did Dungeon Fighter die again or is it still alive and kickin?
>>345367007
Eh, it's mainly ruined by animation canceling/weaving and not being a true ES game.
>>345365694
Agreed.
Expansions became so bad after Interlude
>>345367007
I enjoyed ESO.But i cant afford all those DLCs with it.
Star Trek Online
FFXIV
The only fun ones left.
>>345366907
Why?
Warhammer was good if you only cared about PvP and still had ok pve.
Tabula rasa was fun but didn't seem to have any fundamental flawsthough may be biased cause my bro was hype as shit for it and after that game bombed he only plays fucking fifa
>>345366976
I played both, and I liked both
but WAR was still a WoW clone and Tabula Rasa still faceplanted immediately
>>345367175
>My friends thinks I'm alright
That's codename for "my friends are acquaintances "
>>345366873
probably ´coz is a kickstarter game
but i will overlook the shitty graphics if it is fun
How do you NEETs afford subscriptions and/or a PC capable of running games made in the last six years? I'm afraid to even run a game like Oblivion for extended periods of time, for fear that the graphics on my laptop will crap out (it's happened before).
>>345367308
>played it
>wow clone
>>345360210
>Not even the gameplay is similar.
Have you played WoW? Or any MMO in the last 5 years?
If you care about story in MMORPGs at all and appreciate good puzzles you really have no choice but go with The Secret World.
>>345367308
If WAR was a WoW clone then every fucking MMO post wow except for EVE is a WoW clone. They have their own flavor
Who here feels nostalgic about Mortal Online beta? When stealing was viable, anyone could build houses and it was a proper sandbox mmorpg. I miss those times, I wish there was something not as clunky, not p2w like that these days.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlTlSeNcDqo
>>345367482
Tell me more about it anon.
>>345367372
Getting a part time job helps. On top of that, don't even consider buying snacks like chips or soda, since those add up.
Is Black Desert Online dead too?
IIRC it was released around the same time as Blade & Souls but BS is overun by bots so I stopped playing it.
>>345367174
I meant does the JP version still block players from SEA. I would never touch the SEA version, are you insane? They just got MB3 but I'm pretty sure they won't be able to clear it there.
>>345367132
>not being excited for the revival of WOW
>>345348949
I honestly don't understand why people shit on FFXIV so much. Sure it doesn't innovate or break the mold entirely but it sure as hell does a lot of things right that modern MMOs fail at (lack of consistent content, game runs like shit on most computers, P2W/F2P BR trash, etc).
Can anyone even name me a MMO released in the last 3 years that have more than 300k active players?
>>345367609
BDO was never alive.
>>345367007
sell me on ESO, I never really cared about Elder Scrolls lore but I keep hearing it's a decent game now
>>345348949
>No good MMOs.
Isn't there an MMO coming out right now after the death of EQN which is supposed to be a successor and a copy of original EQ?
>>345367372
On the chance that this isn't bait, a medium tier PC that can run pretty much anything is like 600 dollarydoos, anon. Stop buying over priced laptops, and get a Desktop PC instead.
>>345352563
>Ultima Online
I wish all of you guys were there when it was released and the custom shards were alive and doing well (especially RP heavy ones).
>>345362617
Same here, tons of content despite the community bitching about microtransactions constantly. I find the game pretty fun with lots to do and keep coming back to it.
>>345367609
Normalfags came, realized it wasn't WoW, and left. Only people left playing are either A. newbies or B. KMMO elites
>>345367482
You know, The Templars never really came across as overly harsh. The Loominaty did much worse stuff that you get to see throughout the game but that also did some greater good stuff. Templars are just kind of there.
>>345367007
>Storage: 85 GB available space
>>345367609
It only sold 300k copies which for an MMO is a fucking disaster.
>>345367560
Mortal Online makes me sad because it's the kind of game that could've been modern Ultima Online, but it was made and ran by complete who still don't know what they're doing. Darkfall devs at least somewhat straightened up.
Anybody know if Albion Online is any good? Can I grind/farm my life away with other neets? Or is it shit?
>>345367903
not the same guy but its because templars basically made every mistake in the book over their centuries of existence. they learned from that.
>>345352563
What are you talking about Runescape isn't dead yet
>>345348949
World of Warcraft is my no-life time waster, coincidentally.
>inb4 kys
After you, anon.
>>345348949
What is the ultimate NEET MMO /v/?
A game where you can sink thousands of hours into and never get bored
>>345364432
The Secret World
>>345364684
They recently revamped parts of the combat system to make elites and a bunch of passives more viable. Coupled with the Tokyo nerf a while back it is substantially easier.
>>345368221
Runescape Maplestory WoW
>>345368221
You want Evercrack/P1999 or Runescape
>>345368221
Life.
