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Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain was a great game.
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Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain was a great game.
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I liked it a lot, tho i can understand why some people don't like it.
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>>345340912
I can't.
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>>345341091
Let me try to explain it to you.
People wanted another game, not what they got.
Even if TPP is great, it has its own flaws. And it only work as fuel for those who wanted another game.
For me, even tho it's a good experience, it wasn't a good way for the series to part.
Anyway, it's good but it's not what the general fan wanted. Like MGS2.
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>>345340802
It was.

Just as a Metal Gear title it lacked it's own personality, the OST was dead, there was too much quiet time between the action and there was a severe lack of story/exposition/experiences to really discuss to keep the game alive.

It was a massive disappointment, but still a good game on the fundamental level.

I'd still play Solid2 and Solid3 over it any day.
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>>345340802
mfw restarted playing this with a new save file
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>>345340802
I haven't played MGS since 3 and know fuck all about this game, about 5 hours in. Pretty overwhelming t b h
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>>345340802
I totally agree
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>>345341575
>start a new save file
>forget that FOBs wouldn't transfer
>spent $20 on nothing
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>>345340802
>Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain was a great game

By great you mean for the only noteworthy thing about it?
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>>345341091
Is this the most empty open world in gaming?
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>>345341427
>Anyway, it's good but it's not what the general fan wanted. Like MGS2.

>listening to fans
>EVER
lol, thank god, if kojima lsitened to the fans we would get another mgs4
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That it was op. Sucks that Konami is shit now though. There definitely was a lot cut but even with what was left kojima did great.

Its really shit that the only metal gear games we will get in the future will be pachinko
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>>345342042
Mad Max is just as empty.
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>>345342042
Weirdly enough its not because of the side ops but they are repetitive. It might have worked better if a lot more side ops appeared at once depending on the area you were in.
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>>345342781
>game set in australia
>post-apoc australia to boot

what did you expect mate
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>>345343137
I think side ops should have been dynamic.
Like
>Hey Snake, we got info that theres this convoy going throughout this area, you might wanna check out, one of the trucks has some highly skilled prisoners / lots of resources.
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>>345343386
That would have been a good way to do it as well.

The game is pretty much a Metal Gear Solid buffet with how much there is to do but not a lot of it has a ton of substance to it.
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>Never see Big Boss turn into a villian (Rescues kids for fucks sake)
>Characters feel like hollow versions of themselves
>Venom barely talks
>Shitty twist at the end that felt like it was hamfisted in for the sake of having a twist
>Parasites
>Skullface is a laughable villain, barely does anything in the game
>Barely ever get any locations to actually utilize stealth, most of the game is small outposts with some tents and a building or two
>Repeating missions
>Game just ends, final mission is complete repeat of the first mission but with a different ending
>Barely any non-lethal unlocks (which is how a large majority of the fanbase plays)
>3/4 the maps are completely empty
The gameplay is phenomenal, the best in the series. But it's a shame because it's never used to it's full potential. The game just shouldn't have been open world, it was a horrible idea.
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>>345345001
>Barely ever get any locations to actually utilize stealth
That just sounds like you're bad at the game.
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>>345345001
>Never see Big Boss turn into a villian
This is the thing that makes me laugh the most.
The fact that people complain that MGSV isn't deep, but at the same ask for a ''NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO'' Darth Vader scene for Big Boss.

I think that's why Kojima just dropped all the subtlety in MGSV out the window, and made it all obvious as fuck, because he reads all this, and he thinks everyone is stupid, so he writes story for these kind of people.

I didn't like MGSV's story, but I think the fact that he had no issues with going along with the plan of pretty much taking away one of his best soldier's life just so he could escape, or the fact that, contrary to Solid Snake, who was heavily anti-Metal Gear, actually builds Metal Gears, just shows that he isn't that much of a good guy.

Thing is, we saw things through his perspective, so he doesn't seem that bad.
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>>345340802

Very bad game and her ending with her being abandoned and nothing left to live for.

Kojima won't come out and say it obviously that all the facts this truthposter has said will never come to light.
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>>345345385
Venom didn't even show her mercy, he just let her go to her sick fate and die alone and untouched and unloved, just as he wanted her to be, to die alone knowing no one cared and she dies of a broken heart.
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>>345345001
The game should have been open world, I mean, people had no problem with it before it came out.
As you said, it didn't live up to it's potential, but if it did, the open world wouldn't be an issue.
It just has to be done well.
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>>345345385
>>345345697
And now this thread is going to get bumped to post limit for over 10 hours with the same fat virgin replying to himself about shit regarding Quiet and Venom that nobody cares about.
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>>345340802

Haven't played it but lol at manface mcgee
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>>345341859
What?
They do transfer.
What doesn't transfer is soldiers, but FOBs, online resources and online developed items do transfer.
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>>345346115
Was it a glitch? Should I contact Konami?
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>>345341575
Why? You can redo any mission you want with any weapons you want?
There is literally no point to starting a new game.
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>>345346286
No idea, what platform did you play on?

I played on PC, and I still had all that.
Besides motherbase of course since it's offline, but I still had the built FOBs and the transferred GZ items.
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>>345346321
It's not the same feeling replaying missions than replaying the game.
New Game+ will always be better.
Besides, there's certain events and even side ops that you can only play once.
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>>345345710
It should have been tons of smaller locations, about the size of ground zeroes. Each one with an objective or two, while keeping it diverse. We could have had more then desert and jungle shit, we could have DD operate on a world basis. Winter areas, forest areas, ect. The locations just big enough to allow for multiple different play styles and ways to tackle the objective.
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>>345345357
My problem wasn't that there wasn't a Darth Vader transition, but there has to be some reason more to Kaz hating Big Boss in Metal Gear than "lel Fuck you Kaz here's a body double"

Of all the things for Kojima to explain from Metal Gear, there being two Big Bosses was the thing that no one even cared about. Him surviving Metal Gear 1 was all just summed up to 80s villain logic.
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>>345346559
The only thing they should have done was focus more on the Jungle side of Africa, and make a third map in Russia, full of snow, and a gigantic base, like half the map being that base.
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>>345343386
This. Like the side-objectives, but randomized events.
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>>345340802
It was, until chapter 2 started, then the plot literally went full VOCAL CORD PARASITES and then nothing, the gameplay its the only thing that holds up the second chapter.

also, chapter three never ever, thanks konami
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>>345346593
>My problem wasn't that there wasn't a Darth Vader transition, but there has to be some reason more to Kaz hating Big Boss in Metal Gear than "lel Fuck you Kaz here's a body double"

The fact that Big Boss just dumped Kaz and let some guy that nobody was sure could pull off anything to save him?
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>>345341091
Can't tell if the image is trying to imply in favor of the graphical fidelity, or against the void open world.
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>tfw multiplayer is already approaching death

I just wanted to enjoy MGO with full matches, but damn it's so desolate.
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>>345340802
With women it's casual sex or friendship,

Quiet had neither of those privileges endowed upon her by Snake. He only hated her and wanted her to suffer and forgot about her.

Where as Quiet never forgot about Snake.
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>>345347031
That's what happens when
>Host can end the game because they're losing/asshurt
>No custom games (vampire, zombies, ect. gone)
>customization is ass compared
>3 fucking game modes
The game is boring as shit after a couple hours. It was a complete downgrade from MGO2
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>>345345831
Well just like Snake doesn't care about Quiet lmao, he wasn't even her friend.

just admit you know I'm right.
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>>345341458
>Massive disappointment

woah there
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>>345347260
I just want them to port some maps from the older versions of MGO, or hell even make it a standalone f2p thing. It has microtransactions regardless so why not?
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>>345347361
Yes anon, I totally care about your obsession with this shitty game, neckbeard.
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>>345346374
I played on PC as well.
Well, I'll get in contact with them at the least.
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>>345345697
>>345347185
Code Talker never appreciated Miller as a comrade, he was just using him for his burgers. Miller just wanted to prove himself as a culinary genius and scientist - a facade the Dine put on to get some easy dinner.

No matter how many times I tell the truth, it will always fall on deaf ears. Typical.
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>>345347185
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>>345347260
What I don't understand is why the customization in the singleplayer isn't as deep as the one in MGO.
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>>345347535
Kaz looked at Code Talker like a father and a mentor, and all of that was thrown away. He treated Miller like another parasite, cooperating with him for the burgers and the burgers alone. Were it not for Nature's Blessings, he would have done away with Kaz a long time ago. He wanted to punish him.
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>>345340802
As someone who only bought it because I wanted to get a new stealth game, I was pretty satisfied.

That being said, I can definitely agree with the criticism that TPP didn't need to be Open World. Personally, I would have prefered it if they essentially just made it a bigger Ground Zeroes. As in, multiple Camp Omega-sized maps with similar versatility, and side ops structured more in line with what we saw in GZ.
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GZ > MGSV

Fight me
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>>345347753
Miller LOVED him. And it was all for NOTHING. The burgers he made... the buns he made... You feel it too don't you?

Oh that's right, you don't, because you're all too busy lying to yourself. Miller was N O T H I N G to Code Talker.
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>>345347438
Nor an obsession.

It's fact and you know I'm correct.

>>345347537
What's so hard to understand?

friends care about each other. Snake certainly cared about his diamond dogs, of which Quiet was not apart of.
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>>345348184
>It's fact and you know I'm correct.

Let it be, nobody cares about anything regarding the story of MGSV, only you.
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>>345348064
GZ IS MGSV
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>>345348184
But did Kazuhira McDonnel "Master" "Kaz" Benedict Miller get any love for his masterful cuisine and flavorful manipulations? Certainly not from Code Talker. Everyone else probably loved him for his genius burgers. It's canon and you all know I'm telling the truth, just keep lying to yourselves~
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>>345346906
I thought it was a cool screenshot.
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>>345348184
>friends care about each other. Snake certainly cared about his diamond dogs, of which Quiet was not apart of.
Being this much of a neckbeard
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The way that quiet boss fight started was fucking awesome, man. MGSV is pretty underrated on /v/ imo.
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>>345347031
>start playing multiplayer two days ago on PC
>every mode still has full matches
what world are you people in
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it had so many great moments, but the experience was completely destroyed by how much it disappointed in terms of general game design and story
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>>345347535
>>345347753
>>345348092
>>345348590
Miller had a VISION and a PURPOSE, to make the greatest hamburger the world had ever known. He looked up to Code Talker, but the Navajo, like the parasites in him, was just another parasite, feeding off the perfect burgers that the Master provided. He didn't care, nothing more, nothing less.
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I greatly enjoyed it. laugh at the people who try to claim that it is an objectively bad game. You can dislike it for essentially not being a metal gear game, but you can't deny that the game by itself is solid.
I almost feel like as time passes, people are going to come to love mgsv more and more. It is the mgs2 of this decade.
The main thing i was dissapointed about was that gray fox wasn't in this game, but i realize that that disappointment is on me for assuming something that wasn't confirmed.
All in all was probably my Goty for 2015
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>>345349252
>leave MGSV disappointed
>every day it grows fonder in my heart
>go to replay it
>love every second
It is a hell of a game.
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>>345348457
Keep deluding yourself from the facts, it'll only make you more of a sad person.

>>345348590
Of coursh! Everyone loved Kaz and his hamburgers, even Quiet.

>>345348627
How so then? (You) know I'm right, there was no bond for Snake.
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Konami is going to try to make an mgs6 by thereselves, and I don't mean a pachinko game.
how do you think it will turn out?
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>>345349890
Filled to the brink with microtransactions and other jewery
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It was less of a disappointment than Zero Time Dilemma
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>>345340802
too bad ground zeroes was objectively better in every way
>better mission variety
>better level design
>better story
>tfw chico's tapes
>better replayability
>muh "here's to you"
Just TRY and prove me wrong
I wish you could ;_;
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Glad I managed to send kojima off from his last metal gear with a collectors edition purchase
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>>345349890
The Phantom Pain 2, with more microtransactions.
Also, MGO4 will be free to play.
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>>345340802
It was a great game, but a somewhat mediocre/ disappointing MGS game, especially for long time fans of the series who wanted closure on the series for what they thought was going to be the last MGS game made. I personally enjoyed the hell out of it though.
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>>345349890
Since the story has been over since 4, any new game will be just another prequel.
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>>345350249
>better story
>''Hey Snake, go get this kid- OH SHIT''

GZ didn't have a story, it's like saying a single mission of TPP is a story, or that one scene from a movie is a story.
They are not.
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>>345342532
mgs4 and castlevanias are fucking unplayable coz of having to skip 15 cutscenes to play for a minute
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>>345350249
>Just TRY and prove me wrong.
Okay!
>more customization options
>fun multiplayer
>more content
>more in-depth story
>more ways to approach every mission
>comfy helicopter rides
>Mother Base
>staring at Quiet's ass
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>>345340802
It was a great game but a bad metal gear game and not what was advertised.
It was unfinished and it shows, because the ending is sort of flaccid and unsatisfying
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>>345350249
>better mission variety
Not really, each mission in GZ has an example of the same kind in TPP.

>better level design
There was nothing special about Camp Omega, it was a generic, boring and uninspired level, just like OKB Zero, Mfinda Oilfield and the Soviet Base Camp.

>better story
It didn't have, just like TPP.

>tfw chico's tapes
What about them?

>better replayability
Objectively wrong since you can't even customize your loadout.

>muh "here's to you"
Second time the song is used for absolutely no reason.
At least it's not the completely cringeworthy version of MGS4.

>Just TRY and prove me wrong
I wish you could ;_;

You are going to tell ''nu uh'' to everything because you are one of those melodramatic Kojimadrones who unironically thinks a paid demo no one but /v/eddit remembers is better than the main game.
Just /v/ pushing to be as contrarian as possible.
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>>345348092
>miller had vision
>ends up blind
I R O N I C
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>>345350529
>not what was advertised.
Not regarding story, but then again, MGS2 did the same thing.

Regarding gameplay, they showed exactly what the game was.
Not to mention that MGS never managed to make a satisfying ending, just melodramatic garbage that went on for far too long.
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>>345349252
>Poorly designed locations consisting of 90% mud huts and checkpoints
>Repetitive missions out the ass in the main mission mode
Remember that each Peacewalker main mission had at least SOMETHING to do with the story, none of that "one step closer to cipher bullshit"
>Boring protagonist
>Boring Ocelot, the biggest offender
>Chapter 3 never, game is literally unfinished
>Tried to pull a MGS2 at the end but did it such a forced and meaningless way that you saw it coming from a mile away
>WHOOOO goes from a massive threat to MSF to a Saturday morning cartoon villain
>Chapter 2 is just more missions from chapter 1 with extra difficulty
>OSP isn't allowed except for these missions
>Points benefit running and gunning your way to the end as fast as possible more than stealth, unless you get the perfect bonus.
>Battle Gear was literally useless. You don't even get to see it in action with a cutscene or anything
>Outer Ops was just a gear check with RNG, no strategy in deciding what equipment to give them or anything
>Microtransactions and Freemium wait time bullshit in a $60 dollar game

You'll love it guys. Just you wait!
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>>345350698
He wasn't blind, his eyes were photosensitive.

But Code Talker was blind to his inspiration and true love for burgers... it's canon, denying it will only make you more of a sad person.
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>>345349857

all of this is true and then the stuff that wasn't included.

Snake hated her. She loves snake.
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>>345350249
>>better mission variety
lol wut
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>>345351183
just post more quiet
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>>345350827
>muh cutscenes.

The missions and gameplay are great thanks to the high degree of freedom you have to fuck around with them
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>>345351183
>gender reversed friendzone
why´s snake so based?
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>Snake hated her.

Snake played, flirted, laughed, and embraced quiet while romantic music played during the rain scene.

Then when Venom heard Quiet was captured by Soviets he saved her from torture, rape, and execution and then fought 14 tanks to save her again. Then when she ran away he followed her footprints until reaching a dead end.
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>>345350827
>Chapter 3 never
Because it didn't exist.
The only thing we have is one card, nothing more.
No files, no lines, not a single command suggests that Chapter 3, or any other mission besides Episode 51 existed in the first place.

>Boring Ocelot, the biggest offender
Tell me, what is there to Ocelot besides being ''le ebin rusemaster''?
Nothing.
And here is the first time he isn't a villain, so it just shows how Ocelot really is, a boring, cardboard cutout character who wears cowboy stuff for no reason.

>>Boring protagonist
This franchise has lived on with a generic rough soldier and a feminized faggot.
Now he just talks less.

>WHOOOO goes from a massive threat to MSF to a Saturday morning cartoon villain
He goes from being a massive threat to MSF to being a massive threat to the entire world, but trivialized becuase of a forced /v/eddit meme.

>Tried to pull a MGS2 at the end but did it such a forced and meaningless way that you saw it coming from a mile away
Probably because the Kojima audience are people who wanted to see Big Boss kill children.
You don't like subtletly, so he made a stupid, unsubtle story that appeals to all of you.
The only thing is that the plot went in a different way, and the final level was cut.
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>>345351183
But Snake didn't hate her more than Code Talker hated Miller. Just like Snake put up with Quiet for her sniping abilities, Code Talker put up with Kaz for his burger abilities. Try and argue with me. You know I'm right.
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>>345351183
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/image/1ez5Zg5aVgL8iWO9oYl2tw/

Exactly how much of a fat virgin are you?
18 results, posting the same autismal shit, in only a week.
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>>345351325
>>345350671
>implying MGS V has anything like Deja/Vamais Vu
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>Release day
>Anxious as fuck, waiting for my copy to arrive in the mail.
>OHSHITITSHERE
>sign it off, go inside and slowly unbox it
>Beautiful
>Have technical difficulties trying to get it started
>Had to replay the hospital like 3 times because of a bug. I didn't really mind though.
>Finally in Afghanistan
>Rescuing Miller at Night
>Wearing NVGs
>Get spotted
>Ducking behind buildings, taking potshots at the soviet guards.
start hearing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6gPvzbqdiI 1:12
>Finally hits me that I'm playing METAL FUCKING GEAR SOLID V AAAAAAHHHHHH
I love this game and that will be one of my fondest moments.
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>>345340802
shit game
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>>345351973
You mean le epic ''lolsorandumbxDD'' levels that only existed for you to preorder a paid demo?
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Stupid sexy Quiet
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>>345351656

Snake didn't play or flirt it was autism.

he went to kill her because revenge.

>>345351806
:^)
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>>345340802
Overall it was a pretty weak and shallow game. It had no depth whatsoever.
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>>345352281
Only Kojimadrones think MGS has ever had any depth.
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>>345347031
You find some full games once in a while.
Doesn't mean you'll have a good time, but if you're playing MGO to win you aren't gonna be playing it like metal gear.
Also they sorta fixed it since launch, I haven't seen this webm happen in a long time.
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>>345352163
Snake was clearly watching and waiting to see if Quiet was dead and when she wasn't he was going to stab her in the back
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>>345351881
The day that I realized I would never get to meet Joosten, enjoy the sights of Japan with her, or marry her in a small, private ceremony was the day I realized there was no god.
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>>345350782
>Regarding gameplay, they showed exactly what the game was.
yeah, thats the good game part. I mean people complain about alot of the missions and side ops blending together, but i just love sneaking into places and doing things so much that i found them all fun.
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>>345352119
Nice shitpost fagtron.
No, I mean levels that had you isolate and remove several targets, setup specific encounters and "scenes", or otherwise creative gameplay objectives as a fun bonus, in addition to the mission specific trials.
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>>345351881
Muh *click*
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>>345352281
There are a lot of complaints to level against MGSV, but a lack of depth isn't one of them.
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>>345352882
MUH CHEMICAL BURGERS
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>>345352882
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/image/JdiN6-wkTMF46bLVmxkj3A/
You can smell the rancid, dried cum and sweat coming from this guy's posts.
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>>345352035

Your favorite moment of the game was just realizing you were playing the game?

So in other words you're retarded?
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Yeah, it wasn't the GOAT 10/10 PERFECTION that /v/ said it was going to be. It is flawed.
But games just aren't complete without some sort of flaw, don't you think?
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Do you guys think that Kojima is in to orgasm control?
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>>345353346

Stay mad at the truth, friend.
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>>345352882

My favorite part of your posting is knowing exactly when you're posting because you use that same image alongside some sort of rant against Quiet

I don't really give a fuck about the MGS characters but apparently you really, really, really do
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>>345353848
why are you posting a picture of a horse?
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>>345353515
nah, just a delayed reaction that was triggered by something cool
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>>345353848
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>>345353848
>female goofy
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>>345353958
Stay upset at the truth, guy.

Snake hates Quiet.
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>>345353958
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I think it was made worse and worse by how overhyped it was. So big a buildup for so long and so many trailers and shit...its going to be a guaranteed disappointment.
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>>345353905
>>345354835

But will YOU accept the truth that Code Talker never cared about Miller, and was using him for his burgers? Wake up. See the REAL truth.
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>>345355275

I saw the truth since I saw code talker and how obsessed HE was with burgers and he mainpulated Kaz and stole the recipe and started his own burger joint.
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>>345356017
Exactly. Snake hating Quiet will never hold a candle to the way Code Talker played Miller like a darned cello
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>>345357548
Snake played Quiet since she actually thought she was someone special.
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>>345358593
But the real tragedy here is that the man who inspired Miller didn't think of him as anything other than a way to get a quick burger. It's canon, you might as well accept it.
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>>345358912
I do accept everything you say as canon because this is 4 chan, the truth telling capital of the internet.

I already see you've accepted that Snake made Quiet feel safe and then left her for dead and others to use.
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So i can just add silencers to non silenced weapons when i get the gunsmith right?
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>>345359306
If you REALLY accepted it, you would be preaching the superior issue along with me that Kaz lived the rest of his life for burgers but Code Talker dashed his dreams into the dirt.

Stay in denial, just like everyone else.
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I mean, it was like all Miller cared about were the burgers, no matter how many times code talker tried to reach out to him, his love of burgers drowned out the love of code talker. He was NOTHING to him but a taste tester who died lonely and full of meat.
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>>345359640
Yep. Be aware that you have to do roughly 3 trillion missions to get him, though.
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WAKE UP PEOPLE. MILLER ONLY LOVED THE BURGERS AND NOT CODE TALKER. IT'S THE TRUTH AND YOU KNOW IT
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>>345340802
open world ruined it, if it was hitman-like like GZ it would have been 10/10
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>>345359640
>>345360221
>I played through the entire game without even being aware that you can unlock weapon customization
fuck
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>>345360123
>>345360339

Code Talker truly pervaded the art of making burgers that Kaz was trying to perfect - making an all natural serving of nature's blessings, without chemicals and preservatives. A mark of true hatred.
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>>345359727
>>345360123
>>345360339
>>345360602

I've accepted everything, but the real issue in this very board is How Snake manipulated Quiet until the last moments and told her to kill herself
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It was so simple. Meat. Grain. Vegetable.

Yet kazuhira couldn't be bothered to see the love coming from code talker. That's why he didn't listen to his perfect burger recipe, and he knew that he could never accept the love of another while still trying to perfect the beefy treat. Code talkers love fell on deaf ears in the diamond dogs kitchen. He did NOT love code talker, only the sandwich.
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>>345359640
Not every single gun if i remember right.
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>>345361021
DELETE THIS

Code Talker DISDAINED Miller's natural burgers, and set him down a path he couldn't stray from! He filled him with a lust for burgers, embedding him with his parasitic ideas!

>>345360986
Like those were the main characters of the game. Open your eyes and see what the real conflict was.
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>>345359640
You can customize? Which menu?
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>>345361415
After you do all of the Legendary Gunsmith side-ops you just go into the customize menu in your ACC and you can customize your weapons.
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>>345361402
Kaz only cared about the burger. Time after time again code taker tried to get Kaz to see past the buns and patties, but he did not care. He left him hungry and alone.
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>>345361402
Kaz was the real hero, But How bad Snake played Quiet is worse than most can think of.
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>>345361758
Quiet fell into a deep dark hole when Snake abandoned her.
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>>345345357
>Thing is, we saw things through his perspective, so he doesn't seem that bad.

Fucking this. Even Anders Brevik thought he was the hero.
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>>345361758
How can you ignore the canon of this sub plot? The burgers drove kaz to madness and it would not let him accept the love of the navajo man. It was purely autism on kazs side. There was NO love in those cloudy japanese-american eyes.
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Paz...
Did Snake love her? I'm talking about real one. Did anyone actually love this angel? She died just for nothing
Paz...
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>>345361758
>>345361929
Snake and Quiet were nothing more than pawns in a chessgame. Kaz had the opportunity to change the world with PAX HAMBURGANA - A WORLD UNITED UNDER THE LOVE OF HAMBURGERS - but the evil and treacherous Code Talker filled him with the seeds of evil, much like the seeds of a hamburger bun.

>>345361652
>>345362037
You can stop posting anytime, Diné
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>>345362370
I'll stop posting when people accept the truth of the chemical free beef.
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>>345362175

Yes Snake clearly loved her.

Quiet was a no one and wasn't remembered.
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>>345362567
Nobody cares about that non canon bologna anymore. The real truth lies in the hamburgers.
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>>345362370
I'll stop posting when people accept the truth of Snake's unmatched hate for Quiet.

Paz and EVA and The Boss were the only women Snake needed in his life permanently.
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It seems the quiet autist is getting a taste of his own medicine. It's about time.
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>>345362916
if ONLY Kaz could have gotten a taste of his own burgers... before he horribly changed it due to Code Talker's obsession with influencing him to make a true Frankenburger.
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>>345362708
Nobody cares how much Snake played Quiet into thinking he cared about her like a friend, not 'friend' but a bro, no one cared about Quiet and she was left on her own knowing no one cared.
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>>345362916
I have no medicine, it doesn't affect me that people accept my truth and I accept theirs.

it makes me agree even more. It makes me post the truth even more.
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>>345362843
It's so sad to see that the burgers drove Kaz to push away the ones that loved him. Diamond dogs didn't need the burgers but the evil code talker drove him to spend his time trying to create a perfect burger. It wasn't love. It was 85/15% usda grade a hate.
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>>345346593
I disagree. I thought that twist was fucking inspired at the end.
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>>345363221
Yeah I agree Kaz was Loved by every single person on Motherbase for his burgers, if only the truth were to be accepted that Snake only hated Quiet and only wanted revenge on her and how he feels no remorse or sorrow or guilt at letting Quiet die.
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If you completely ignore the story and pretend it's a vr mission for Raiden or some other inconsequential shit like that, yeah it's pretty great.
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>>345347185
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>>345363221
Why won't you wake up and see that Code Talker had unrequited love for Kaz, and wanted to see him succeed by helping him make the greatest burger possible? Kaz pushed the boundaries too far, ignoring the fatherly love Code Talker had for him in favor of making an abomination of science! Can't you see?!
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Ocelot hated Eli, he couldn't stand the fact that big boss cared more about Eli than him. That's why ocelot felt no love for him and left him alone to die. It was not love it was hate.
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>>345362175
he fucked her in the box
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>>345341640

You sound extremely underage.

Your opinion belongs in the diarrhea pile of /v/ opinions :)
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>>345363714
oh boy here we go, the shitposting is getting real now
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>>345363714
Ocelot loved Eli! It was obvious when they brought him to motherbase! Can't you just wake up and see the truth already!
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>>345363642
what did he mean by this?

have you accepted the truth and canon of unrequited love Quiet had for Snake?

The symbolism is right there of how she was drowned without dying and raped also.
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>>345363876

how Quiet wasn't even a FRIEND in Snakes eyes, much less a Diamond dog because he didn't care about her.
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So in the msx games big boss makes a metal gear and declares hes going to blow up the US right?
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Huey hated DD. He saw how ocelot and Kaz treated the animal and grew insane with jealousy, even when DD helped save him with big boss he didn't see the animal as a friend, that's why he felt nothing when he left motherbase and rid himself of the canine for good. It was pure hate.
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>>345364389

Yeah, but you really need to realize the absolute tragedy here - RAY loved REX, she just wanted to love him and exchange biomechanical fluids, but REX was cold and heartless like a machine, and ruthlessly dominated and destroyed her. You'll see things the way I do one day, anon.
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>>345364728

Agreed with everything that Quiet was totally jealous that Snakes love belonged to Kaz And all of Motherbase.
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>>345362843
>Paz and EVA and The Boss were the only women Snake needed in his life permanently.
>implying Venom and Big Boss were the same person
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>>345364986
No the real truth lies in the hatred Huey had for DD. Nobody cares about the nonessential subplot you are trying to push. Get with it.
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>>345364912

you're agreeing with me and you just don't know it.

Kojima won't ever confirm all of what I have said as canon.
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Did Skull Face love Sally?
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>>345365149
Clearly Snake hated Quiet because she was in need and yet Snake didnt want to help her.
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>>345365362
Yes, but Sally felt no love for skull face. He cared only for tretij rebenok. That's why he felt no love as he died in that battlefield.
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>>345365213
Wait, what did you say is canon again? Were you the guy talking about Code Talker hating Kaz, Kaz hating Code Talker, Ocelot hating Eli, Ocelot loving Eli, Huey hating DD, or RAY loving REX?
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>>345365038
As far as he knows, the way he keeps the pod on mb shows his love for The Boss.
The peace painted is his love for Paz
The EVA costume shows his dick belongs to whoever wears it, or maybe EVA did return and spend time with Venom.
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>>345365491
>he

Sahelanthropus was a girl! A GIRL!

And by that I mean girl(male) :3
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>>345365639
The canon of Everything about Quiet meant nothing to Snake no matter how much the player seemed to care.

Snake canonly didn't care
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>>345366050
Which Snake was it again? It was Liquid right? That sounds about right, yeah I believe you, I don't think Quiet really meant anything to Liquid either.
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Quiet is as much of a girl as a girl can get. Snake didn't care if she loves him and she died alone and in pain just as Snake wanted it.
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>>345366278
Nah, The guy who thought he was Naked Snake didn't care a penny for Quiet.
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Diamond Dog loved D-Horse but D-Horse hated DDog. That's why D-Horse betrayed D-Dog and left D-Dog alone to die in the Pound.
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>>345340802

i miss the fun i had with the game .... wish i could lose my memory and replay it .
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Canonicalay, kojima hated David hayter. That's why kojima left hayter to die in that sound booth. Hayter loved kojima but it was pure autism on his end. Kojima left hayter to die alone because he never cared about him.
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Im 13 hours in and having fun so far.
When can i start invading other players bases?
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>>345366437
Everyone loved DDOG
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>>345367031
IIRC, you get a singleplayer mission 1/3rd through the game that introduces you to FOB invasions.
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>>345366845

Autism
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MGSV would have been much better if it had a third chapter, that is alot of people's main gripe with the game. However, for me personally I found just everything to be so underwhelming, and the twist just felt like a stab in the back. I loved MGS2 back in the day and didnt care about playing as Raiden because his involvement with the storyline, key word being involvement. Venom snake, aka random doctor man has essentially no backstory, no real character to him, no past life, no nothing. I wanted to hear big boss go crazy and badass, Venom snake is virtually silent the whole time. We expected future members of foxhound to make an appearance, big boss to have some actual snake-ness to him, (or better yet, to be the actual big boss), and a plotline to wrap up all the loose ends. Instead we had to listen to a tonne of audio tapes, endure this character who is totally unique to the series in the fact he has no character, likewise with vocal parasite dude who i didnt give a FUCK about, Quiet who adds nothing to the story other than a pair of tits, the unexplainable and unnecessary return of volgin, baby liquid snake and psycho mantis stealing and piloting a metal gear (yet alone knowing eachother), a metal gear which is more advanced than practically any other mg in the series, holy shit - what a mess. The gameplay is solid, the best the series has ever seen. But the open world is too vast and the new mechanics beg for indoor exploration. Don't get me started on the multiplayer..

The biggest disapointment of all however, was just that. The disappointment of this game. It could have been so so much more, it promised so much more, and the trailers were leading us to believe we were due for a masterpiece!

What we receieved was memorable, but for all the wrong reasons. Made this old man cry, what a crappy end to the series. :(
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>>345341969
Quiet was a mistake, Kojima shouldn't have listened to his dick.
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>>345367353
It's true! Why can't you accept the truth! Hayter is gone and kojima feels nothing because he never did!
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>>345366429
That guy who thought he was Naked Snake? You mean Solidus since he was the perfect clone of Big Boss? I thought Naked Snake disappeared at the end of MGS3 when he got the title Big Boss?
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>>345367480
Autism autism you have autism
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>>345367582
Venom Snake thought he was Naked Snake for a time.

He didn't care about Quiet and only hated her.
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>>345367645
Just like hayter did for kojima, which is why it was so hard for him to let go.
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>>345367424
Because Venom is supposed to be an avatar for the player.

I don't know how people don't see that the entire game is about what you want to do.
You give Venom his real name and face.
You choose your buddies, you choose your PMC's emblem and name, you build your army, you build your equipment, and you go on the missions you choose, with the way you prefer to attack.

The entire game was about making you part of the story, even though it ended up badly due to being unfinished.
It's the complete opposite of MGS2.
MGS2 was about making you think Raiden was your avatar, but slowly you just discover that he is his own person, that he has his own past, which was pretty fucked up, even Snake tells him to choose for himself, and throws away the dogtags where you are supposed to write your name.
This one was about making you the central part of the story.
You could interpret that as a ''Thank you'' letter from Kojima, by making you Big Boss.
If you didn't like it, however, that's a different matter.
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>>345349760
I'm replaying it on PC after playing it on PS3
It's much prettier, and the MODS, my god the MODS
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>>345367791
But Venom Snake died on that tanker two years ago.
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>>345351656
Uh huh.
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>>345367791
>Venom Snake thought he was Raiden for a time.

He didn't HF-blade Quiet and only indifferent to her.
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>>345367796

No, Quiet loved Venom, she didnt have autism.

Venoms true love is Paz
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>>345368265
No kojima hated hayter. Play the game again and accept the truth of mgsv. It was hate alone. Not love.
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>>345368128
Nope.

>>345368236
Snake did shoot her in the hert though, closd enough.
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>>345340802
FACT

the trailers for MGSV are better than MGSV

prove me wrong you can't
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>>345368560
Silly anon, you can't play a trailer like a video game
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>>345368560
Its just edgy contrarians on the chan that do
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>>345368515
Yep, Venom hated Quiet, she will always love him, Venom will always love paz Venom will always hate Quiet
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question about quiet:

if she has to breathe through her skin, what's the point of wearing stockings? that's just choking her by restricting diffusion through the skin of her legs
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>>345368549
Heart*
Close*
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>>345368776
I think you're confused about the truth. Kojima never liked hayter. His true love was Kiefer all along. That's why he left him to die alone.
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>>345368776
Who's Venom Snake? I thought there was only Naked Snake, Punished Snake, Solid Snake, Liquid Snake, and Solidus Snake.

And Raiden was THE Snake... for five minutes
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>>345369053
You forgot the clones Plasma Snake and Bose–Einstein Condensate Snake
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>>345368921
Stop repeating the same things with different names.

Quiet loves Venom
Venom hates Quiet
Venom loves Paz
Paz loves Venom.
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>>345368921
In turn, Kiefer didn't care about Kojima's love. He just loved the alcohol, the only thing in this world he could trust.
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>>345369053
Punished==Venom
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>>345351656
(not) Big Boss' a manlet.
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>>345340802
It was postmodern masterpiece.

MGS3 though was post-postmodern and is therefore better
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>>345369221
But Paz loved Kaz! Their names rhymed and everything. But Kaz didn't care... all he cared about was the BURGERS. Wake up and see the truth for yourself, I mean, it is canon after all.
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>>345369221
No it was kojima. He was the love interest. Hayters love interest, but kojima didn't love him back. He did not love him. He left him alone in l.a. to make terrible movies. Kojimas only true love is Kiefer.
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>>345369221
Stop repeating the same things with different names.
Raiden loves Vamp
Vamp hates Raiden
Vamp loves Fatman
Fatman loves Raiden.
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>>345369427
I accept every single canon. Paz loved Kaz
Paz loved Venom
Venom loved Paz
Quiet loved Venom
Venom and everyone hated Quiet
Venom loved Kaz
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what the fuck is even going on in this thread? Is someone just replying to themselves over and over and over? It sounds like how a single person would try and mimic a 2nd voice
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If anything significant happened story wise, I missed it. Venom's "reveal" wasn't even important and didn't impact a fucking thing.

Quiet was pointless. She could've been replaced by a DD Combat Unit person with more varied usefulness and a deeper connection to your recruits. With DD tech even the invis and super speed could've been explained away somehow. Maybe Huey built an exo or something, who knows.

Paz's arc was the only notable and most interesting/impactful thing through the whole game in terms of story. Tends to happen when you take established characters and, I don't know, USE THEM (see Ocelot).

Gameplay was fine, but plagued by movement issues and/or what I like to call "new age animation syndrome", where your character will be climbing, standing, doing things in general and your controls will feel unresponsive for even just a moment or two, which is very annoying. But when it works, it works well. Except D-Horse, he handles like a bathtub.

Freemium research design and FOB system was garbage, the latter being forced especially. It would've worked great as a separate mode or an opt-in system or something but instead you get the privilege of waking up the nest morning, let alone returning a week later, to find several thousand resources missing.

I called this one of the worst things I'd ever bought back in October after it was over. Playing through it again now after the anger has subsided shows it to be a pretty good game with some awful fucking story and equally bad main mission structure. The whole thing feels like it has no flow, just walking and shooting your way to new objectives, with the occassional MB visit in between. This game has convinced me that there is such a thing as "too much freedom", or maybe it's just all directionless. Maybe they go hand in hand. Either way, I'd call it a solid game but close to the bottom for MGS games.
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>>345369440
Yeah and Quiets interest goes unreturned.

Venom only hates her.

>>345369696
Again with this. >>345369221
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>>345369696
Do you accept the canon that I loved you all along, but you were too cold and uncaring with your posting about Quiet that you hated me and wanted me to die alone?
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>>345369440
I thought so.
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>>345369696
Why can't you accept the truth already?

Kojima loved Kiefer
Kiefer loved kojima
Kojima hated hayter
Hayter loved kojima
Everyone hates reedus
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>>345369889
Meant for>>345369587

>>345369723
Everyone is in agreement that Venom duped Quiet into thinking he cared about her when he never did.
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>>345370064
>everyone hates reedus

But not the Funky Fetus!
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>>345370064

Not even the mildest care or love for Quiet
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Everyone is in agreement that D-Walker duped Huey into thinking he cared about her when he never did.
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>>345370232
Everyone reedus Quiet
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Quiet and venom are in love and are married with 3 kids. 2 boys and 1 girl.
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>>345370381
Stop
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>>345341091
Wow anon look at all that desert, with absolutely nothing in it.
One of the biggest problems with this game is that if it isnt a outpost its a fucking wasteland void of content
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>>345370536
Did you know that Gray Fox hated Vulcan Raven but Vulcan Raven hated Gray Fox. Vulcan Raven left Gray Fox to die.
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Venom never touched Quiet and she died alone after having her virginity taken through rape.
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>>345370540
>desert
>nothing on it

Okay anon
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>>345369878
>a horse handles like something heavy
That's the point nigga
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>>345370767
No that's not true. The real truth is that no matter how much love hayter showed kojima, kojima did not love him back. He left him alone to live in l.a., keeping him far from metal gear. He did not love him. He only loved Kiefer.
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>>345371064
>>345370690

Okay mr autismo, Quiet wasn't loved only hated, she was raped and hated and died alone just as planned
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>>345370381
Huey just cared about his sweet, sexy robolegs. D-Walker was antiquated technology to him, but the robot just wanted to feel human love.
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I really do like the tragic love story in the game. Venom loved Quiet but she never loved him back. She left for Afganistan to leave Venom to die in Outer Heaven.
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I think you mean David hayter. He was the voice of snake before Kiefer, he loved kojima but kojima didn't love him back. Kojima loved Kiefer.
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What's this gif from?
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>>345340802
Peace Walker was better

I'm not event trolling
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