Complex Puzzles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ-VnkqATaU
>>345337830
I finally just beat this shit. That ending was such a letdown. Really? Cheaping out on the epilogue? Couldn't have them standing around talking a bit? Had to read online to know I have to go back in to read the epilogue files. No D team epilogue withhappy family snuggly fun time.
Threadly reminder thatDiana is used goods and Phi is the daughter or a whore.
>>345338619
Why would anyone want event more badly written romance? Junpei and Akane getting married is bad enough.
Diana is a bad drunk and a whore, end of story.
>>345338619
I'm extremely disappointed that familial relation was barely addressed by the characters. You'd think we'd get more than a hug and then have it just ignored entirely afterwards
>>345338854
>sigma got cucked before Junpei
The real plot twist of ZTD
>>345338619
Fuck that, where is my Carlos 2 epilogue?
>tfw she wants thehorizontal tango
So we're all more disappointed than anything else right?
>>345339381
We can fill the empty void in our hearts with memes
>>345339381
That was my immediate response to it, as time passes I'm becoming more fond of it though. There's a lot of bad things about it but there's also a unique charm to its dumbness compared to the others and the characters are growing on me.
>>345339381
I'm content. I wanted to see what caused VLR to occur, how Diana and Sigma fell in love, wanted to see Junpei and Akane sort their shit, and wanted to finally see the leader of free the soul. I think everyone can agree that turning the game into cutscenes was a silly choice, but it wasn't a bad game. Maybe not as good as 999 or VLR but still on that same bracket.
>>345339651
This. When I first beat it, I was incredibly disappointed and wondered what the hell happened. But now I embrace the ridiculousness of it.
I mean, VLR was may more ridiculous than 999. So ZTD just takes it even further.
Did Zero Escape get the idea for the "virus that kills off most of humanity so people have to travel back in time to stop it" plot from 12 Monkeys?
>>345339381
>old laptop died right after finishing the game
>game sucked
I wish ZE 3 was never made.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s29frJFlMpo
>>345339381
Yeah.Kyle is my favorite character so this was probably an even bigger disappointment for me than most.
>tfw you can post about remember11 again and nobody gets upset
incidentally couldn't someone just go fix all the shitty english in ever17 by editing and distributing the script file since that's how the "typo fix" worked
So who'sthe terrorist that radical 6 was released to kill?Seriously they couldn't just find the guy with the magic powers instead of killing 6 billion people?
>>345341963
That will be answered in the fourth game, please look forward to it!
>>345341963
He's got to have some kind of new morphogenetic power that makes it impossible for Delta to find him
>>345342142
But Delta has an army of Seanbots with shifting capabilities. It makes no fucking sense.
>>345342142MINDPROXY
>>345340675
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9QQjrKs4nM
>>345342292
I thought only his main seanbot could shift, the others seemed just like janitors.
>>345341213
https://mega.nz/#!c5g0zLQD!FyOa4Pm9_nzPla2KU9HO5fY-sV2757BCKWS2fc8fXJQ
this comes with 360 voices, OST and SFX, and the script fix
>>345342512
What's stopping him from making more? He could've copy pasted the AI, use the ayylien machine, or build another from scratch, the guy is filthy rich.
You're all shitters
Why isLotusso perfect
>>345343015
We've gone off-topic.
>>345343120
I already told you.
Is zetsubou a concurring element in this series?
>>345339651
Seriously, what's with Maria always being this random female in games? SA2, Gears of War 2, and now ZTD. I'm sure there's a few others out there.
>>345342128
Correct! Who's excited for ZE4?
>>345342403
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GveSKpeanh8
>>345342840
He needed to recreate the conditions of his birth first and foremost. Maybe he thought he could kill multiple birds with one stone by using radical-6 as a stopgap measure while training up the Shifters.
>>345342672
That's not what I'm saying
a "typo fix" exists for ever17, and it removes one glaring spoiler from way before you should be told about it, but despite that ever17's script quality is overall very low and could use further editing
what I'm asking is if that's possible to do simply by editing the text directly or if there are call signs in the script that need to be handled
>>345343347
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzNS8Ah139Y
>>345343328
ZE4
pls no.
I love Diana even with her imperfections. Stranded ending was best ending.
>>345343606
I'm all for seeing how far this series can fall.
>>345343808
It was definitely my favorite timeline in the game.
ZTD was much shorter than VLR. But I liked the cutscenes aspect. Prefer it over reading text. And japanese voice cast was great.
>>345344072
>>345343808
Jesus that shit was heartbreaking.
>That was the last one, Gab...Thanks for everything.
So I just finished the time line that leads to VLR, and used the password zero said to open the force quit box, but I'm stuck, I don't know where to go from here
Help
>>345343383
He only needed to have Diana and Sigma fuck in a similar situation. And even then, why go through all the trouble of training the shifters when you can build your own? It makes no fucking sense.
Fine, be anal about it, make R6 and create VLR timeline, tho I'm sure future Sigma is not needed, organize ZTD, have them fuck, and call it a day.
Akane and company are not even looking for the fanatic at the ending . Crash keys couldn't even find FtS headquarters or Delta's identity, but now I'm supposed to believe they'll succeed in finding the fanatic whereabouts? Fuck that.
>>345344438
You should have an unlocked Q fragment. Did you finish everything after opening the door of truth?
Snake is the terrorist. He probably decides to kill the world when Clover dies. (Just remember how he reacted in 999).
In VLR clover says everyone says he's in a cult, and this is never brought up again.
I'm going to marry Carlos!
>>345344438
When you look at your timeline do you have all the executions unlocked?
>>345344663
The only thing I might have not done yet is the force quit box section of Q, and I don't know if I missed the code or not
Everything else is done
>>345342403
>>345343606
I made that picture as a joke. Will it become reality?
Background is from the wiki: Q&A section
>>345345132
Just Q teams, I tried more than once to get the other executions, is that another one of the random elements in this game?
>>345342403
oh look, it's Diana's theme
>>345345137
You should have gotten the passcode in Q-end 2 then.
>>345345283
>>345344005I just want to complain, but I actually want more ZE.
>>345345324
I wouldn't say it's random, the game acknowledges the choices you have made beforehand on a timeline. So just go through the voting phase in the beginning of the game again, even if you already went through both choices for each.
>>345345324
The game remembers what everyone voted, so you have to have at least 2 teams set to vote for whichever team you want to execute.
>>345343443
the script fix is the typo fix
and yes, I think the script is easy as fuck to edit
>>345337830
>the art progressively gets worse from left to right
Did D.C. Douglas have fun voicing the most memeworthy character in the game?
>>345339381
ZTD was ok but I'd be lying if I said it wasn't somewhat disappointing.
/r/ the pic with june looking at seven when he says "zero might be watching us right now"
>>345344778
It would make sense.
Or maybe we're hearing nothing about kyle because he's the terrorist. There's no fucking way they'd forget about Kyle like this if there wasn't going to be a 4th.
>sigma calls junpei "Tenmyouji" in the beginning of the game
>he calls him junpei when they're reunited at the end
They dropped the ball.
>>345346501
>>345346490
NTR doujins when!? I'll settle for some suggestive fan art.
>>345346292
Switching out the artist for ZTD was a big mistake.
I wonder if shit like this has ever happened in real life, people being kidnapped and force to make decisions that can kill other people just to escape themselves
Shit would be prettyfunto watch
>>345346408
He must've loved calling people shitters.
>>345338619
>spoiler
I gotchu Phamily
>>345346762
Thanks a lot.
"My motives are complex" is japanese for "The writers just decided that everything that happened somehow obliquely serves my goals."
>>345346618
The beginning also had most of the fun banter between characters that's completely missing later in the game.
>>345346836
Death game setting seems to be a popular genre. You can check out the SAW movies. Or Danganronpa. Or Euphoria.
>>345347234
>SAW movies
First movie was okay I guess
>Danganronpa
It's shit.
>Euphoria
Pretty good.
>Sean's helmet reveal is that he's a robot and has a plug instead of a head
>not that he's a Left clone , takes his helmet off in front of Sigma and Phi and says "It was me, Dio!"
life is simply unfair
my robo-son can't possibly be this cute!
>>345345137
Let the clock run out when Eric asks who killed Mira.
>>345346996
>no Delta
>>345347806
Delta can't jump, retard.
>>345347806
he's just outside the field of view the whole time :^)
>>345347551
WasDeltaa pedophile that diddliedSean'sfiddly?
>>345347806
Delta was in Q-team
IT'S ALL AN ALLEGORY FOR CHRISTIANITY
THE FATHER, THE SEAN, AND THE ROLLY GHOST
>>345348048
This will be revealed in the fourth game. Please look forward to it!
>>345348178
finally, someone has begun to grasp the inner complexities of my motives...
>>345347462
Eh, Dangans is better than 999/ZTD
>>345347964
underrated
>>345348513
As long as you pretend Ultra Despair Girls doesn't exist.
>>345348513
this bait is... too complex for me...
>>345348513
As long as you pretend Junko doesn't exist.
>>345348513
>>345348513
if anything, Zero Jr., the post-apoc setting twist and Clover 2.0 make VLR the closest to Dangitronpaul
>>345347964
>>345348547
Oh fuck, clever
Should I make a video review of ZTD? Game has a shitton of problems that I hope Uchi fixes in his next game, but all the game reviewers gave ZTD 10/10s and 9/10s, which is fucking baffling to me and probably gave him the impression that ZTD is on par with the rest of the series. Hope a video rightfully critical of the game would reach Uchi's ears and influence his future games.
>>345349070
There is no way Uchi doesn't know exactly what's wrong with the game. He's not stupid. But budget wasn't enough to make it good.
>>345349070
if you have good video editing skills and a tolerable voice, then go right ahead
>>345349228
Because he blew it on shitty animations and weeb bait aka seiyuus.
>>345349413
The animations were cheaper than doing it 2D. And less narration meant less writing, which was also cheaper.
>>345348643
I will pretend DR2 and Shootanronpa don't exist to make that statement.
>>345348513
>comparing apples to oranges
One is about the near biblical scale war between Hope and Despair, while the other is about a massive bootstrap paradox and pseudoscience. The only thing they have in common are closed environments the characters need to escape from in order to survive.
>>345339381
Yes
Idiots on Steam just gobble it up
Q&A never ever.I'm surprised you guys are still shitposting about this game
>>345349228
I'm worried he has his head up his own ass desu
>ZTD? No idea what that is, but I liked Danganronpa. Guess I'll give it a pirate
>They're referring to a lot of things ouside of the game. Is this a sequel?
>Oh, it is. And the other games are on handheld. Whatever, this pulp fiction timey wimey shit is probably more fun without knowing what the fuck's going on. I'll keep playing
>Yeah, I'm digging it. You have to glean information from multiple timelines in order to get the happy end.
>Aw shit, you have to enter your own children's birthday from a timeline you split from but never knew. Are there more bittersweet twists to look forward to?
>Oh... the mastermind was a guy that was always hanging around and just always out of frame?
>Oh, everything he's saying is stupid and/or plays into a blatant causal loop
>Oh...
Are the first two games worth playing at all? The room escape puzzles were pretty fun, but in retrospect, I would have liked if they were more than 1/10 the game's 'playtime.'
>>345342512
I'm pretty sure Sean is capable of controlling any of the Seanbots since his mind isn't actually in the robot. The robot doesn't shift, and what he does isn't exactly shifting anyway.
>>345351315
>playing a story based series out of order
>being this much of a casual faggot
Are you fucking retarded?
>>345351524
>VN's
>anything but casual
Story made sense anyway, and I enjoyed it up to the final act.
>>345351315
congrats you just spoiled two fantastic and beloved games because you played them out-of-order like a casual.
>>345351760
I really don't care about doing them in order.
>>345351315
>>345351315
The other two are better yeah. The room escape segments in the second game take up less of the total playtime though. There's still more of them than in ZTD though, I think. The first game probably has the highest escape:story ratio, but mostly because you can't skip ones you've already done on different routes
>>345351713
>even newcomers are disappointed by the finale
Thanks Uchikoshi.
Anyway, go play the other two games too. 999 has great atmosphere and VLR the best puzzles in the series.
>>345351945
You will when you play the first two games and realized how much you fucked yourself.
>>345351945
wew lad here i thought i couldn't get angry anymore
>>345351315
You kind of fucked up. ZTD is the worst in the series, the other two games are miles better but not sure how it will be for you, because you've been spoiled by this game.
As for puzzles... the pacing in the other games is different, they are visual novels, so there is a lot of reading (the second game is around 28 hours, but has almost the same amount of puzzles, although they are much harder), but it's mostly escape room->visual novel part->escape room, there isn't a part like in ZTD when the last 5 hours of the game are cutscenes only.
>>345351315
What >>345351760 said. You're an idiot along with whatever high-up said that ZTD had to be marketed towards new players.
>>345351945
this is why putting ZTD on PC was a mistake
>>345351315
>>Oh, everything he's saying is stupid and/or plays into a blatant causal loop
It doesn't, the transporter sends someone to a root timeline, not a specific branch
>>345352249
So with the giant button, the reactor, and the Force Quit Box, the shelter had three separate self destruct mechanisms
>>345351760
He also spoiled 999 and VLR, which are not fantastic at all.
>>345353063
>having shit tastes
>>345353063
You're right, they're even better than that. I'm not sure what adjective ranks higher than fantastic though
>>345353063
This bait is...complex
>>345352821
Yes, which is why it's a causal loop. Delta facilitates his own existence. Pretty textbook example.
>>345353351
so what?
>>345353441
>calling this a general
>when these threads are gonna be dead in a week or so
>>345353696
you faggots said that two weeks ago
>>>/vg/
no topic = general
>>345353492
It's a logical paradox.
>>345354137
a paradox doesn't mean it's wrong
google bootstrap paradox
our neurons can't compute backwards in time, so stuff seems illogical to us that isn't
>>345353441
Go back to your hourly New Vegas thread
>>345352978
I don't think the reactor was ever meant to go off. It's just Akane lol let's just shift because rules are for fags. Which was a pretty great moment imo 'cause she basically broke the game.
>>345353441
Why do you care, you bloody autist
>>345353351
>>345353492
>>345354137
>>345354242
Delta facilitating his own birth is a basic bootstrap paradox, but it's internally consistent, so there's no really issue with it.
Phi's brooch coming from Diana DOES present an issue, as it is essentially the same object when it trades hands everytime, and as such there's no way it should be able to last without deteriorating. The transporter copies things exactly, including their physical condition, meaning the brooch will end up going through literally countless timelines, and eventually it would crumble to dust.
>>345348904
Will Sigma still make Luna even though he doesn't have to anymore? Will Diana be okay with him making a sex bot in her image that doesn't age or get fat?
Is Phi basically Lucina 2.0?
>>345339381
no, the ride was too wild for that.
>>345354990
Nah we only saw the first time it got sent back
:^)
>>345354990
>Phi's brooch coming from Diana DOES present an issue
2008 Phi could have gotten a replica from 1904 Phi.
>>345355051
>Is Phi basically Lucina 2.0?
I could get behind that.
>>345354990
It survived being incinerated without so much as a scratch, maybe it's just legitimately impervious by it's very nature of being something not made by man.
>>345354417
Akane saying "Screw the rules, I have shifting" was pretty fun. The way it was handled opened up so many problems though.
Firstly, she apparantly neglects to do this under any other circumstance, despite being apparantly able to at any point in the game. She even explained that she's used to shifting so much, so she doesn't just forget stuff - so we know she wouldn't have forgotten having shifted.
Secondly, she explains that the other self essentially swaps places with you, despite us seeing very differently that the conciousness didn't swap places directly but instead were all shifted around different points in time with Sigma in VLR.
Thirdly, when she brings it up she explains that it could be seen as a form of murder, killing the self that swaps places with you. She then forces them to jump, essentially saying the ends justify the means. Junpei then has NO problem with immediately fucking over 2 of his other selves and one of Carlos's and Akane's, and then Carlos has no problem fucking over two of his other selves afterwards as well. And then all of a sudden, the final decision is supposed to be about whether or not it's to shift everyone's other selves into the current certain death situation, despite every Shifter but Diana having consciously done it with absolutely no problem several to millions of times throughout the series.
This isn't even counting the issues it created with the other characters, such as how Junpei magically became a shifting expert when he hadn't been able to access to morphogenic field since 999, or how he even knew the dice rolling decision (which is on a separate timeline branch) even existed when he, again, hadn't been able to even access to morphogenic field until just before he shifted the first time.
So yeah, it was a fun character moment, but not a good story one. But then, I guess a lot of ZTD can be summed up as that.
>>345355228
That doesn't change the fact that the brooch is continuing to age and should eventually turn to dust - no matter where it gets replicated, it's age doesn't decrease.
>>345356974
"Aliens did it" is probably the only valid explanation for that.
It's also by far and away the worst, but we already have an alien time traveling fax machine, so why stop our suspension of disbelief there, I guess?
>>345357538
I didn't mean replicated with the transporter. I meant replicated by a jeweler.
>>345347551
Sean was too sweet. I thought he would be annoying but I wound up wanting to protect him from all the bad shit going on. I have to wonder if going through horrible murder games and dying in a bunch of timelines was part of whatever deal he made with the original Sean and why the fuck it would be but I'm sure the answer is complicated.
>>345357857
With the exact same insignia and scratch marks?
>>345357857
I'd buy that theory more than "alien's did it".
Even though the alien's theory actually has more weight to it, however retarded it is.
>>345357538
I wasn't thinking aliens when I said "not made by man", just that it has no origins and is more of a concept sprung from the universe that defies explanation, so expecting its physical properties to match a normal brooch might be mistaken.
>>345359348
The insignia sure. Scratch marks will come naturally over time, the whole thing being in a causal loop.
Or do you prefer alien material that doesn't deteriorate over time but somehow has scratch marks?
I know that a lot of people usually dislike filters and added effects, but I don't know...I kind of wish the game looked more like it did in the opening. It's kind of gaudy looking otherwise.
Time to decipress the button.
>>345360252
>>345360752
>>345360890
>>345361049
>>345359895
No, I like your idea a lot better now.
I mean, the fact that the situation exists is Uchi's fault for being bullshit, but at least we can have plausible explanations for some shit.
>>345361192
>this image ended up being true after all
kek
>>345361327
I thought it was confirmed in VLR
Did Jumpy ended up fucking Kanny in ZTD?
Wow I can't wait for the 4th game
There are few things in gaming that will make me as mad as Kyle getting completely fucking dropped.
Brother being adopted is one of them. There is NOTHING to even hint towards this, or even it's relevance, in the entirety of VLR. We also don't get any sort of hint about this until Zero name drops himself as Brother and Delta one after the other to Akane, at which point it's not even hinted at but is just randomly thrown in and is literally the only explanation.I'm almost positive that Brother and Delta were combined into one person when Uchi realized he didn't have the budget for one more model. At least Brother wasn't cut, like Kyle
>>345362435
He got her an ugly ring that looks like it came out of a cracker jack box. Thought it would have some sentimental value since he kept holding onto it. But nope it's just a ring that he brought into dcom intending to propose to her the moment he saw her I guess. Putting it on the wrong hand was cute.Too bad that ending was fucked.
Gotdang, Sigma has some nice tits.
>>345363010
>Eric ogling Diana's ass
>>345362435
Jumpy fucked Kanny's cunny post ZTD.
Sigma fucking plowed Diana in an alien fax machine after pimp slapping her.
Eric does the horizontal tango with Mira vertically through iron bars.
>>345362802
There are a lot of hints before Zero says it outright. Besides, it makes sense as soon as Delta is first introduced.
>>345360252
That's a long fucking minute.
>>345353441
>filter ztd and dilemma
>the one and second thread to transition to are gone
Complain about overmeme and pokemon faggot
>>345363209
>There's a lot of hints about Brother being adopted
Like fucking what? And why there a fucking inkling about this in VLR, despite Akane knowing about it?There's tons of hints about Delta being Zero, but not so much about Brother being Delta. Aside from the reveal about Brother being Delta, which isn't a hint since adoption must be a fact at that point, where's the hints that point towards adoption?
>>345363182
>alien fax machine
Wonder what would happen to a human going through the fax if the power was disconnected halfway through.
>>345360252
On the one where Diana pushes the acid shower button, why did she freak out and act possessed and run back inside after sig and phi got on the elevator? Was it Zero's mind hax? The one with carlos staying behind was heneeded a body to jump into.Seanjust didn't want to leave Gab. But I don't think they mentioned Diana's reason. And then Zero's berating her for faking insanity.
>>345363873
Funny thing is when Akane and Junpei use the fax machine, Carlos accidentallly kills them when he throws the robot causing the big explosion. I guess he didn't realize their bodies are still in the pods and only copies got sent over.
>>345364243
Now that I think about it, yeah, you're right. They would have fried.
You win some and you lose some I guess.
>>345364015
>Diana staying behind
We're supposed to believe it's his mind hacking, though like you said, all that does is make Zero a fucking asshole.
>Carlos staying behind because reasons
You got this right.
>Seanstays behind cause Gab
Actually, that's not quite right. He stays behind because of Q. Pic related.And yes, that ENTIRE Q TWIST was very poorly handled and completely unnecessary, as we learned from C-Team's force-quit box fragment that he definitely doesn't need to be that close to anyone to mind hack them, merely being in the shelter was plenty.
>>345363010
I prefer Carlos's. He's at least showing them off.
>>345364943
>off screen
Erryfuckingtiem
>>345364243
>>345364694
For every 10 things the game gets wrong or does poorly, it does 1 thing right.
It just so happens that nearly all of the things done right revolve around Team-C, and usually specifically Carlos.
He is easily the best character of the game.
>>345365621
I don't know!
I. don't. know!
What are the names i can put in the Mexican standoff on the Q team?
I've doneEric, Mira, Deltabut I don't have any idea what to put for the 4th ending
>>345366057
Nobody
>>345366057
No one
>>345366057
Kyle
>>345366057
"Nobody" will do it.
It's a pretty bullshit ending though. Not worth it really.
>>345366057
No one.
And then you all die anyways.
>>345366490
No.Sean dies and then Eric does because Mira rips his heart out. I'm guessing Delta lives. Who knows. That grenade launcher should have killed all 4 of them.
>>345366831Delta dies, otherwise Mira and Eric wouldn'tget HIS X-Pass.
>>345366831
Yes.Q dies since you get the X-Pass
>Who killed Junpei?
>try putting in Inubushi and Keiko
Why the fuck do these people use zinger ringers? Fucking obnoxious
>>345367048
>>345367254
My bad.
>>345366831
Yeah no kidding. It either should have killed them all or shouldn't have armed at all because of the close range. What were you thinking Eric.
>>345347067
>Carlos and Siggy ruining Junpei
Yes. Absolutely perfect and beyond.
>>345368452
>>345366831
That was the most complex grenade I've seen in a video game. It launches, and then just plops to the floor instead of dinking into sean's face, and then has ample time left for eric and mira to climb the stairs.
I guess Uchi needed eric to fire a weapon that would wipe out Q at the same time, but this really wasn't a way to do it.
>>345347067
So which stage of grief are you?
I finally reached acceptance and accepted the fact that the ending was botched and will forever stay that way, so all I can do now is move on.
>>345368941
Look at the bright side.
It isn't as botched as ZE4 will be.
>>345368941
I am glad ZTD happened because it pushed me into playing other VN and games which are much much better.
ZE truly is babby's first VN series
>>345368941
I literally just finished this game, and within the span of 10 minutes I went through denial, anger, and bargaining, and am at depression right now
Should be a few minutes before I reach acceptance
Is Junpei knowing about the alternate dice rolling history a plot hole?
How the flying fuck does Carlos know how to work the machine perfectly when Sigma said he had no idea how to read any of it?
Why the hell does Zero mindhack Diana back into the complex other than to taunt the fuck out of her?
How does Zero mindhack Diana into not drinking the antidote when he's fucking dead in that timeline?
Why the balls would Diana bring Phi out into the world with Radical-6 when a rescue AND quarantine party could easily have been sent back not even a day later, therefore not killing 6 fucking billion people for absolutely no good reason?
Why does Zero try and say "I didn't ask Mira to kill anyone, so I'm not responsible for this" when he created a puzzle that required Mira to chop Junpei up into bits and pieces?
Why is shifting suddenly a huge moral dilemma at the end of the game when everyone's been doing it willy nilly throughout the whole game without a second thought?Not that it fucking matters, since you instantly get a game over if you don't fuck over the other selves.Does Eric have a shotgun magnet in his fucking hands or something?
>>345369554M I N D H A C K
>>345369123
>google image search
>no uncropped picture
wow
>>345369554
One or combination of these:>too complex for you>Mind Hack>Ayy Lmao>meme field
>>345369554
>Puzzle that required Mira to chop up Junpei into bits and pieces
I don't remember this, did I miss something?
>>345368941
I've realized I've shifted to the wrong timeline and am looking for a way out.
>>345369513
>Should be a few minutes before I reach acceptance
Allow me to draw that out for a few more minutes.
>Kyle never ever
>New Left never ever
>Phi being important never ever
>Real moral dilemmas never ever
>Radical-6 mattering never ever
>Aliens
>Adoption
>10th player
>Mindhacks
>2 complex motives
>>345369881
>wow
Sorry about that. Here.
>>345369887
yes
>>345364015
I interpreted it that she really did get mind hacked to press the button but upon realizing the consequences she would have to face if she went outside, she faked it also controlling her to stay behind, basically drumming it up as much as possible.
>>345369887
Remember the puzzle with the body parts? The one where Junpei was missing and you were just controlling Carlos and Akane, and then you find his head in the freezer, and then Akane loses her fucking mind?
Those were ACTUALLY Junpei's body parts. His arms were needed for the codes - you even needed to heat up one of his hands in a microwave to open it up and read the code on it.
>>345369554
>Why does Zero try and say "I didn't ask Mira to kill anyone, so I'm not responsible for this" when he created a puzzle that required Mira to chop Junpei up into bits and pieces?
There was no puzzle about this was there? I don't really get how she did it. Did she have full reign to walk around when everyone else slept? That how she killed D team in that one history? Figured she chopped Junpei up in the pod.
>How does Zero mindhack Diana into not drinking the antidote when he's fucking dead in that timeline?
I think that's just attributed to Diana stupidity. I think we can safely say the 13:30 vote and acid shower vote were mind hacks though since she said she dindu nuffin.
>>345370279
We know about that puzzle. The way the other anon said it, thought he meant Mira had to solve a puzzle by cutting up Junpei.
>>345369554
he can mind hack through cameras and quantum computers
![latest[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/8HTTSKt.png "latest[1].png")
>>345370056
>>345370279
I know about that puzzle, but I thought there was a puzzle that was needed to be solved and required killing/cutting up Junpei and I didn't see it
I know Zero mentioned thathe let her walk around while others where asleepand that's when he died
>>345370330
Seriously though, what was the point of the poison? Nothing even happens as a result of it, no actual new branches are created or anything. Why did he bother?
>>345369993
on the plus side, we got carlos and a reaction image goldmine
This picture is from the zero escape wiki.
Is that some kind of joke?
>>345370464
>>345370330
I don't think anon's asking about how Mira killed Junpei. Rather, that it's disingenuous of Zero to say he never intended to kill anyone when there was a puzzle room designed around collecting the body parts of a deceased party member.
>>345370759
Anyone have the "Keep Bullshitting?" Decision Game edit of this screen?
>>345369123
>>345370873
Still my favorite scene
>>345370947
Have you seen their page on The Snail?
>>345369498
I can't think of any non-Uchi VNs or games that are of a similar nature that I might get turned on to from this.
>>345370330
>>345370464
>>345370770
You guys are right, it was worded wrong, but it's still a solid point. Zero tells Akane and Carlos that he's not responsible for Junpei getting cut up, even though Zero needed Mira to cut Junpei up so that he could set up Akane's and Carlos's puzzle.
>345370527
He can't mindhack through quantum computers, he very explicitly says that he can only mind hack people who are present in the timeline he's in.
I mean, there's the possibility that the entire game was viewed threw the eyes of Delta at the Final End, but that just seems like a cop out.
>>345370759
>>345371061
You aren't missing much. It's just a picture of Alice scissoring Clover while Luna and Phi watch.
>>345371117
kek that picture
>>345371117
I have now.It is great
>>345339291
Any porn of eric yet?
>>345371291
>but that just seems like a cop out
And that's everyone's reaction to the whole of ZTD.
>>345371291
he laso says he is interested in human decisions and then mind hacks people to force them to decide
so what he says doesn't actually matter
>>345371703
I actually didn't catch that.
Jesus fuck Uchi.
>>345371438
>Phi's face
Must've done a lot of drugs to get a face like that.
>>345370947
>zero escape wiki
I want to like the ZE wiki but fuck the main admin. He micromanages every little detail.
So how many complex motives areDelta'seyes behind?
>>345371817
She did raise herself.
999 REMAKE WHEN
>>345372153
Coming Winter 2016
>>345371941
>I want to like the ZE Wiki
Why on earth?
Clover's page had 4 fucking pages of information on a potential mental illness some fans thought she could have, all because she broke during the axe ending after her only brother died. It got cut down to 4 paragraphs because everyone bitched at the main admin that it belongs in the "non-canon" section, and he still didn't fucking move it.
The wiki is awful, and now it's worse since every fucking page has major spoilers for all the future games as well.
>>3453719802
That's literally it.
AND WE'VE SEEN BOTH OF THEM FUCKING BEFORE.>I need to make sure I become me
>999 did this with Akane first
>I need to train shifting powers
>VLR did this with Sigma and Phi
>That is all of my motives
THE FUCK
>>345370975
damn young child of typically bad behavior
Whatever happened to Junpei running off after hearing the anagram "Together with me, we are ten" and LEATD being left over
I mean, it's obvious what it means now, but nothing ever came of it
>>345372572
I'm sure none of them had purple and black eyes though
>>345372839
Dropped plot point #41.
>>345372984
This is correct.
Delta took the motives more purpled,
And that has made all the difference.
>>345372572
He also wanted to make a timeline where Rad-6 kills the fanatic and to give a dead kid a second chance at (virtual) life. Still not great though.
>>345372360
>Why on earth?
Well I want to like the idea of the ZE wiki. I do. You bring up other major problems why it gets held back. You aren't wrong at all.
>Garbage main admin
>Main admin that micromanages
>Really unchecked spoilers
>Long drawn out pages when stuff could be simplified and cut down
>Blatantly incorrect info that won't change due to a certain admin
>It's a fucking Wikia. Horrible choice to put a wiki on. The site should really be on something similar Wikipedia which is Media Wiki.
Like I said, it would be fun to have a wiki like that but the Wikia is really just garbage.
>>345371510
>>345371518
>>345372360
>finished 999 without knowing it has a sequel
>check the wiki
>see junpei tenmyouji and VLR, but at the time thought VLR was a anime spin off or something I did'nt care
>fast forward two months
>999 got a sequel ????
>playing it on 3DS
>see Tenmyouji
>see the part when clover says she cannot betray him
>Then I understood but was still in total blindness since it was supposed to be only one year after 999
>guessing the 2074 twist and got it ruined thanks to a wiki
Life is simply
I played all 3 of the Zero Escape games in 1 week, and man was ZTD shit. I was so excited to start it after beating VLR, and only ended up disappointed. I really don't understand the point of the true ending if there won't be a 4th game. The "true" ending should have just been the one that led onto VLR and ended the series with a loop.
Instead we got stupid mind hack shit.
>>345372585
But there's no option to stop bullshitting.
Anyone else feel like True End got cut short?
I mean, we had the terrorist AND Brother's identity revealed in C, Delta's identity revealed in D, and Q and Sean's bullshit revealed in Q.
True End revealed nothing. It really feels like the big threat was supposed to be revealed in True End, but they had to rush it and just came up with "terrorist nuclear blah 8 billion blah" and shoved it into two lines in C team.
>>345370947
