So does this game eventually get good or did I fall for a meme?
>>345325308
it gets good when he says "I never asked for this" at the beginning, and the rest of it is shit
>>345325308
If you want to enjoy the game, play on hard and never use melee takedowns or the cover system.
It's alright. Atmosphere and works design it's very nice. Gameplay is okay on the hardest difficulty. Hopefully Mankind Divided will fix the issues that HR had.
Remember to avoid Mankind Divided.
Do not buy Mankind Divided under any circumstance.
The first level is really good though. Not the opening before you get your augments, the one in the typhoon lab.
What's so bad about it?
>>345326214
why
>>345326214
But what if i get it for 5$?
also, why not?
I managed to get all the way through the game without killing anyone and got my achievement
But i didn't get Sneakiest of the Hounds, and now i don't know which alarm i tripped
Wat do?
>>345327084
replay
Was the Missing Link good?
>>345326214
Why?
It looks like it'll be pretty good.
Sure it still has the takedown animation things but if that's a dealbreaker you have autism
>>345326989
>>345326924
>>345327201
It uses Denuvo.
>>345327227
So? How does that affect the game?
>>345327227
And?
>>345327158
It was OK.
>>345327227
Oh no, you're that autist that thinks that Denuvo damages computers.
>>345327294
>>345327297
i don't have money to buy the game because im too lazy to get a job
>>345327158
Enjoyable having it integrated into the story in the DC breaks the pacing though
>>345327297
>>345327294
>>345327389
Denuvo is anti-ethical and anti-consumer.
You have no idea how much you're hurting PC gaming by supporting games using it.
>>345327227
Are PirateFags really this scared?
>>345327516
So?
It's my money I'll spend it how I want.
>>345325308
It's an okay game. The first one and even the second one were better. It's not terrible, but it's been casualized quite a bit.
>>345327516
How is it unethical and anti-consumer when it affects the consumer in no one shape or form. It only affects pirates.
>>345325308
>So does this game eventually get good or did I fall for a meme?
Unless you want to do all stealth, all the time, no, it doesn't get any better. It's even worse than DX:IW.
>>345327516
>using Totalbiscuit buzzwords
Wew
>>345325473
>speed running with the tranq dart crossbow or shock baton
>>345327516
Explain further
Will California finally sink in Mankind Divided, or do I have to way for the next after that?
>>345327785
possibly, almost fits into the time frame
Play on easy, go lethal, and look up all the keycodes/passwords. If it still isn't fun for you, stop playing games.
>>345327516
Denuvo is better than the likes of Securom or Starforce.
You didn't actually buy any Ubisoft games from the past 10 years, did you anon?
>>345327883
>quick save
>kill everyone and read the passwords from pocket secretaries
>load and continue playing
>>345327227
PIRATEFAGS BTFO AGAIN
Illuminati will shift blame to Jensen for the terrorist attacks if he steps out of line. Calling it. That's why they had him at the Prague station during the train bombing and in Dubai during the arms trade going wrong thanks to a bunch of masked augs.
>>345327583
>>345327617
>>345327654
>>345327735
>>345327987
Hogs a considerable amount of resources from your PC
Makes mods impossible
Requires on-line activation and constant on-line authentication. Many people reported how their DOOM copies failed to authenticate, locking them out from the game they paid money for and they had to wait 24 hours.
All the money and resources wasted licensing Denuvo and implementing it could be used to improve the game
Dramatically shortens SSD's lifespan
And that's without going in detail about how piracy is essential for a healthy videogame industry.
>>345327987
Has Ubisoft made any games worth buying in the past 10 years?
Shouldn't this one be about the downfall, or the beginning of the end, of the Illuminatiand the rise of MJ12?
>>345328129
>i'm poor
It's good right from the start (except the unskippable walking scenes that veteran players have to sit through again).
>>345328129
Denuvo is a literal chastity belt for games.
People will actually defend this.
>>345328129
>Hogs a considerable amount of resources from your PC
I have a good pc so this is fin
>Makes mods impossible
no it doesn't
>Requires on-line activation and constant on-line authentication. Many people reported how their DOOM copies failed to authenticate, locking them out from the game they paid money for and they had to wait 24 hours.
Okay that's a fair point.
>All the money and resources wasted licensing Denuvo and implementing it could be used to improve the game
Not necessarily
>Dramatically shortens SSD's lifespan
My SSD is for my OS only so it's fine.
>>345328129
Hot sources
I've played many games that use denuvo and haven't seen any performance issues or resource hogging that wouldn't be done by the game itself
>>345325308
I loved it and enjoyed it from the beginning, if you've played more than an hour or two then drop it, it's not for you.
>>345328443
>muh sources
Just google them, fucking retard.
No wonder you buy Denuvo-protected games
>>345328639
>make an argument with no proof
>tell other people it's their responsibility to find it
no anon, you are the retard
>>345328639
I did Google it, people agree that there is no proof denuvo affects performance.
>>345328795
>constantly on bloatware
>doesn't effect performance
Why defend it?
It doesn't get good. Possibly one of the most boring games I have ever played.
>have to gimp yourself (no takedowns or cover) and play on the hardest difficulty to make the game even remotely challenging
>bosses (even in the directors cut) are badly designed and pretty much require you to exploit the environment
>literally every area can be snuck into via an airduct that is normally within breathing distance of the main entrance
>conversation 'mini-game' is literally just guessing what you need to say if you haven't levelled up your charisma or whatever
>zero depth with weapon modifications and augs, you can quite easily max essentially everything and become an unstoppable machine
>hubs are very small and badly designed, not fun at all to explore
I'm sure I'm forgetting something. A lot of these criticisms can be applied to the original, but that game excels in plenty of other areas, HR is mediocre or bad in all departments.
>>345325308
It was good for its time. Not recommended that you try to play it now though.
>>345329583
>for its time
the distant year of 2011
>>345329583
It wasn't even good for its time. It was generally pretty shit
>>345329583
>>345329451
>>345329785
now you're just being contrarians
>>345330119
do you expect anything else from this board
people will praise HR and talk about how shit MD is once it's out
>>345326214
already per-ordered, faggot
>>345330119
No, it was mediocre at best. The dialogue is trash, the gameplay is meh and it was full of hardcore shilling around here at the time.
>>345325308
The game is basically Fallout for babies.
>>345328129
>piracy is essential for a healthy videogame industry.
>>345329672
>for it's time
Welcome to 4chan, where all things in the past (3 days ago) are dead.
>>345328129
>hogs resources from your pc
wat?
I can run MGSV just fine with stable 60 frames while also having some background programs running while I'm playing.
>>345326214
I pre-ordered the $100 deluxe version. Stay poor piratefag.
>>345330289
>The dialogue is trash
This desu. I dropped the game about 2 hours in because all of the urban youths and niggerspeak.
>>345330759
MGSV isn't a true eight-gen game.
>>345327227
>denuvo
Welp, that will be another one for the bargain bin on some russian steam key site.
>>345326214
I pre-ordered the collectors edition and have pre-ordered Dishonored 2's collectors edition and will also get one of Prey if announced.
>>345330587
>rampant piracy
>muh potential buyers' money
>Denuvo was born
I bet you think programmers don't pay hackers to bypass their antivirus programs.
>>345327227
And who do we blame for that?
Pirates.
If we didn't have pirates constantly pirating games, developers wouldn't put DRM in them.
Pirates are to blame here.
>>345326214
Nope, actually looking forward to it.
>>345331109
>prey
Why is this franchise pushed so hard? It's been out since xbox. The only real space indian game I'm interested in is Turok.
>>345328129
Source: my ass
>>345330587
>Pirates buy far more media (software, games, music, movies, etcetera) compared to non-pirates
>Pirates generate positive word of mouth in a way not even regular marketing can achieve
>Piracy forces developers to create games good enough that people feel compelled to pay for them
You can even argue that pirates are more important (and profitable) that legit buyers.
Man, the new Deus Ex uses Denuvo. And they don't have a demo. Fucking hell, I'll have to wait for a sale to play it.
>>345332059
Surely you could just look at reviews, video footage, user reviews and discussions on the internet?
>>345332046
>Pirates buy far more media (software, games, music, movies, etcetera) compared to non-pirates
what mental gymnastics are you pulling here?
>>345326214
Motherfucking Sarif is back. I'm pre-ordering.
>>345332359
There are dozens of studios demonstrating that.
A quick google search will show them.
>>345326214
Already pre-ordered you faggot.
>>345332538
Did they change the voice actor? I thought they got super pissed about that drunk VO he did
>>345332538
>that haircut
JUST
>>345332730
He's an idiot who thinks Augmentation is wrong and is also a conspiracy nut.
I reckon he has a minor and undiagnosed mental health problem that makes him hard to work with.
>>345325308
>tfw trying to play at 4k
what the fuck were they thinking
>>345332730
Yeah, he wasn't called back to reprise.
He blamed it on the Edit of the Fruit Fly video and not what he fucking said in the video.
>>345332730
stephen shellen said eidos paid him jack shit and for some reason he got pissed off because of that fruit fly video. he's a bit weird, so half of what he states is pretty much incomprehensible.
>>345328129
>Hogs a considerable amount of resources from your PC
sounds plausible, would have to confirm this
>Dramatically shortens SSD's lifespan
highly unlikely, seems like bullshit
>And that's without going in detail about how piracy is essential for a healthy videogame industry.
highly subjective
your other reasons are good though
They put more effort into lighting fixtures than in the gameplay.
>>345325308
Don't know man. I dropped it near chinatown. The characters are boring as fuck and the missions are pretty meh too. It doesn't help that the game looks like total dogshit either. And I really liked the original Deus Ex too. What a shame.
>>345332730
>drunk VO
sauce?
>>345332046
>Pirates generate positive word of mouth in a way not even regular marketing can achieve
>Titan Quest
>game gets leaked a few days early
>crack is complete shit and crashes regularly and at certain points in the game
>people think the game is buggy as fuck, lots of negative PR
>>345328434
>>Makes mods impossible
>no it doesn't
that depends on the type of mod, some modifications will indeed be impossible and if the game has no official mod support it can prevent most modding
The game is good from the very beginning, you just have shit taste
>>345333657
>piracy is bad
>rushed, overblown greedy marketing is good
The Post.
>>345332538
How did Sarif lose his other arm?
>>345333037
Not even remotely.
>>345333651
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO2WIFTm7n4
Dude, you seriously haven't seen this?
>>345332538
why does he look like a fag now? His hair and his face have been pussified
>>345334216
this seems like its supposed to funny
>>345333823
well go sign a petition or something, they might listen
>>345333980
??? what?
i just showed you a counterexample where the opposite of what you/that anon claimed did happen
>>345334586
it is, but if you go on his facebook (type in Stephen Shellen and it should be a page with ~500 likes or so), you'll find that he's a bit mad
>>345334364
The question is why is Adam video-skyping with his former boss half naked?
>>345332730
He's a paranoid schizophrenic
Piracy is a necessary evil. There are plenty of games I've pirated first and ended up buying. Get rid of it and I'm not going to suddenly start buying every single game that looks interesting to me with money I had hidden up my ass. If anything I'd end up buying and playing fewer games in general because I'd be less willing to try anything new.
>>345335113
Though I should probably stop calling him that.
>>345335320
>>345335113
This guy actually seems to capture the feeling of Deus Ex better than Mankind Divided ever will.
>these conspiracy theories
>>345327516
once again consoles are superior
>>345335704
consoles are even more anti-ethical and anti-consumer
>>345332046
citations needed
After beating HR three times (and getting various things like Foxiest of the Hounds) I finally decided to do a pacifist run and invested into hacking while completely disregarding every weapon aside from the revolver and non-lethal ones.
HR is easy but hacking every terminal for XP and money bonuses while selling shit you don't need absolutely breaks the fucking game. I have like 25k in cash and I just reached Hengsha.
>>345332046
>the people who don't pay for your games are more important than the people that do
the lengths that people will cognitively venture to avoid admitting that they're cheap fucks is astonishing
>>345333995
removed it for another arm
>>345336093
Why would you hack everything? It's such a goddamn boring minigame.
>>345334595
? i'm not the anon that started this argument about denuvo, i don't care that much about modding scenes for games like these desu, i was just clarifying that denuvo(marketed as anti-tampering technology, heh) can indeed make mod development impossible/very limited
>>345336651
Boredom and min-maxing. It's absolutely not necessary, granted.
>>345325308
Does your life get better OP did your parents fall for a meme?
>>345326214
PREORDERED
Not even joking
>>345326214
you can't stop me
>>345336651
so you can read what's on all of the terminals obviously. it's a very short game so you need to think of ways to extend it.
How likely is it that we will see a baby JC denton in this game? He was born in 2029.
>>345334856
Can you've played through the game without that scene ever coming up because I'm pretty sure that's what happend on my playthrough. Other than that the game is mediocre in every regard, barely good enough to be seen as OK and not offending too many consumers.
>>345338115
yes.
There'll be a scene where Jensen goes to a hospital in America and a young Paul Denton will say hello to him and want to show him his little baby brother. Then Jensen gets to shake hands with baby JC Denton.
After that Jensen will tell their parents to drive safe.
>>345338453
kek
Considering JC is a clone, he might be a clone of adam jensen and not paul denton. JC may stand for jensen clone
>>345338157
That scene is from Mankind Divided.
>>345338157
in english please?
It claims you can approach things at different angles and your choices matter but it wants you to stealth the entire thing by following the obvious vent to linear wall to wall cover stealth approach with conveniently placed conversations and computers to hack and the ending is press one of 4 buttons and none of it mattered.
It's shitter than IW.
>>345339961
>It's shitter than IW.
"no"
>>345326214
Already got it pre-ordered. I don't often pre-order, but I have faith in them.
>>345327227
Irrelevant for me.
Got 2~3 Denuvo games and didn't have any problems with the copy protection.
>>345328129
>Dramatically shortens SSD's lifespan
This has been debunked two years ago.
>>345328129
>And that's without going in detail about how piracy is essential for a healthy videogame industry.
Piracy is not important for AAA productions, only for smaller and medium projects.
>>345325308
It's only perceived as good by newfags who never played the original. This is like the original except dumbed down.
Literally no reason to like it.
>>345339961
>but it wants you to stealth the entire thing by following the obvious vent to linear wall to wall cover stealth approach
No, that's not the issue with stealth in HR. The issue was that stealth/non-lethal/hacking all gave you a lot of extra XP, meaning extra praxis points, meaning more augs and an easier game. Shooting your way through is a valid way to play, but you won't have as many cool toys.
>>345335498
He's seriously perfect for the role of someone in a world full of conspiracies.
>>345330759
It's true. MGSV and mad max run fine because they don't require a powerful pc to begin with but games like ROTR have terrible performance. Even Nixxes couldn't fix it and they generally make toptier pc ports.
>>345336093
I figured out that hacking was pretty rewarding right off the bat and maxed it out. I never had any kind of money troubles, always had 20k and the entire game was easy because I could open every passage.
>>345337836
>game purchased 1/10/15
>>345341561
>and a season pass
>>345341561
that's october last year, anon
>>345342225
>britcucks
no that's january tenth
I do like how they're stealing the weapon mod system from Crysis for this.
>>345339961
hacking is better for a shooter build, though. you can clear out an area and then loot/hack everything in sight. if you play as a stealth character hacking is a lot harder to pull off because when you interact with a computer you automatically stand up.
>>345342225
>>345342339
>>345342339
Order of importance, americunt. Day is more important to know than month.
>>345325308
Or you have shit taste
>>345335498
Deus Ex Souffle:
10kg of conspiracies,
1kg cold, hard reasoning,
9kg suspicion.
If I recall the recipe correctly:
Make into flat discs and bake.
Serves 1 billion people.
>>345342345
At first I was annoyed, but it seems like it'll be fun and more tactical than the old system.
Is The Fall even worth playing? I read part of the book and thought it was shit and the game looks buggy and unoptimized as fuck
This game seriously looks more like a retread. I'm only buying this because I've been waiting 5 years for it and I trust that it'll be at least good. I still do not expect it to be an improvement going off of the fact they still have cinematic takedowns and made the HUD even more casual.
>>345325308
I wanted to love this shit really, I even bought it but damn...
what kind of shit game is this....melee attacks are using BATTERY and you a cyborg ultra mecha soldier can't use your fists because you have NO FUCKING battery
>>345344343
I bought it, I regretted it. You would not believe how unresponsive the controls are.
>>345325308
I wasn't able to whistand the voice acting. The main protagonist's voice is so brutal like a voice of a dying pig.
>>345344923
how is the HUD casual?
you mean the quick access wheel instead of the number bar?
>>345346708
pc still has the bar, i think. We have only seen console gameplay and pc gameplay with a controller so far.
>get the plasma rifle for the first time after beating the hebrew hammer
>oh boy oh boy oh boy
>find out it's absolute shit compared to the laser, revolver, grenade launcher, and assault rifle
>>345348594
you sure? i always use the plasma rifle to tear through the last level and the final boss fight. it's definitely better than any conventional weapon like the revolver or combat rifle.
>>345348020
>pc still has the bar
I'd like some source on that, chief.
>>345348928
>pc still has the bar, i think
>I think
I'm only guessing. If you play HR on console you get the wheel but on PC it has the bar. I think it's safe to assume it will be the same with MD
>>345345112
>what kind of shit game is this....melee attacks are using BATTERY and you a cyborg ultra mecha soldier can't use your fists because you have NO FUCKING battery
This is probably the only real problem I have with the game. That and it expected me to care a little too much about Jensen.
It pisses me off so much that they removed that sweet telescopic baton and proper melee and it pisses me off even more that what they replaced it with is a time freezing, no skill required instant kill attack that is so OP they made it use batteries even thought that makes no fucking sense at all.
And there is no denying it, it's because of the fucking thumbsticks on the console controllers. Those things are the bane of first person games.
>>345348885
It shoots slow (even with cooling system upgrade) and the rounds still do less damage than a fully upgraded revolver.
Laser wrecks everything. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwenpJiZXIY
>>345327297
Denuvo is garbage and will make the games unplayable in a few years, just like secuROM
>>345349884
they can always patch it out
>>345350383
But they wont.
>>345351478
you don't know that
>>345349712
Laser is a really clever way to do that fight, but that also made it kind of OP.
