If Capcom announced DmC2, but said that it was developed internally, would /v/ buy it?
Hell no, DMC5 or bust
>>345311025
Yes
DmC was quite enjoyable, most people don't give a shit about the """"story"""" of DMC anyway, and DmC had enjoyable gameplay
I didn't even buy DmC, fuck no.
The only thing I'd look forward to is the 'hype' train for it like DmC.
>>345311470
Ninja Theory wouldn't be involved though.
It would simply pick up were DmC left off.
>>345311025
No.
>>345311192
This pretty much, game was fun.
>>345311025
>not DMC5
>>345311025
Nope
I wonder what would be people's reaction to DmC2 if it was to be developed by Platinum games and they were to keep the characters personalities untouched.
>>345313223
Platinum is an overrated company
Most of their games are mediocre at best
>>345311025
Are styles back?
Are color coded enemies gone?
I might consider it then.
>>345313223
I wonder why people come up with these retarded "what if" questions.
DmC was a failure, Capcom realized it was a failure. If they ever do another DMC game they'll try to steer as far away as possible from it.
I mean why would they even be attached to that retarded story made in a single installment by a different company who had to resort to making mobile games, as opposed to the story the fans already like made over several games which even has a couple of adaptations(novels, manga, anime).
I mean the pachinko shit game even uses DMC4 scenes despite being much older than DmC, what more proof would you need that Capcom wants to bury DmC like they did with DMC2?
>>345313327
Not all their games are bad, but ever since they jumped in popularity everybody seems to want them to make anything. Almost nobody gave a shit about NieR and drakengard before they started making Automata, then threads started poping up more often, that's why I wonder if people would start liking DmC of all of sudden.
Even shit is developed internally.
>>345313223
DmC was better than half of the crap Platinum shit out. The Bayonetta games are the only above average beat'em'ups
Yeah I'de buy it.
>>345311192
>>345311945
Except for the lack of difficulty and any good boss fights. Oh, and how the demon weapons were OP and the angel weapons did fuck all damage but combod enemies to death after half an hour.
>>345313223
The idea of DmC2 is gone with the wind. Also Itsuno or bust.
>>345313327
Overrated definitely but they're still overall very good and competent devs for action games.
>>345314191
>Lack of difficulty
Then increase it? Much like the other DMC games
>Good boos fights
Subjective, I liked the Barbaras fight or whatever his name was, and the baby/lillith fights
>>345314191
Angel weapons can combo into demon weapons and vice verse, they're not "useless" against the "wrong" type of enemy
Only if it had real Dante and the edgy retardation was removed. That, and somewhere in the game Dante states that some skinny punk bitch with black hair was running around somewhere in the world pretending to be him while on some campaign to stop Fox News only to end up getting raped to death.
Probably yes
DmC:DE was actually fun, most of my time playing DMC4 has been a combination of utter disdain and cringe
I find it hilarious how the LE DEEP COMBAT XDDD meme has became so popular just because DMC4 is the only decent HnS on PC- it must be "deep" because you can do so many different moves! ( that still gets curbstomped by your average console game like ninja gaiden or bayonetta in terms of depth and skill)
DMC1 is the best DMC game because it actually feels like fighting enemies- "styling" means actually raping and taunting instead of le im floating in the air by mashing jumpcancels XDD
DmC was a step in the right direction for the franchise- a few enemy types that were actually interesting to fight, pretty cool visuals, better music and a few fun bosses (bob barbas etc)
>>345314094
I love how /v/'s opinion changes over time as soon as something they like gets popular, I might have to agree on it being "better than half of the crap Platinum shits out" as this would apply to all those licensed games they have worked on over the last years.
>inb4 >/v/ is one person
>>345314585
>this entire post
Holy shit dude.
Could be OK if they improve on DmC Definitive Edition. I'd rather have DMC5 though.
>>345314702
>post anime
>entire reply is a condescending sentence hehe look how right I am
let me guess, DMC4 was your first DMC game and you shit on DmC because youve never had a single original thought in your head?
>>345314585
Pretty much this
>>345314410
>Increase it
a) DMD difficulty is a joke and b) there's no penalty for using items so S-rank runs are just item spams. Sure I can not use items, but that's poor design.
Except him as a boss was easily the easiest boss, since his attacks were piss easy to dodge, he literally just is combo food, and half the fight is forced timed fights with basic grunts. Lilith was probably one of the better ones, but the stationary boss coupled with the weird camera angles makes it shitty
Did you mean to reply to someone else? The demon weapons kill everything way to easy (for fucks sake, the demon fist combos into itself until most enemies die) and the angel weapons, while hilariously weak, can stunlock enemies to death with ease, just you gotta wait a year for them to die.
>>345314585
>>345314898
Shit posts like that get my dick super hard tbh_fam_smh
>>345315519
>waah everything that doesnt fit into my hugbox is a SHIT post
I hope you actually think DMC4 is hard
exactly half of the series has been difficult so far and those would be DMC1 and 3 on higher difficulties
>>345313729
DmC has sold >1 million and got a definitive edition
>>345316392
DmC sold 1.7 million as of March 2016, numbers for the DE edition is unknown.
Of course the game has been in tons of sales and it is the lowest selling DMC; but it's hardly the hot dumpster fire /v/ makes it out to be. Every DMC has sold around 2 million more or less, the exception being DMC4 which lies at 3 mil. Probably at like 3.5 now thanks to DMC4SE.
>>345316195
did he died?
>>345314585
>DmC was a step in the right direction for the franchise- a few enemy types that were actually interesting to fight, pretty cool visuals, better music and a few fun bosses
I remember when people used to try.
I was not a fan of DmC. I have other hastily slapped together screencaps if I can find them.
>>345316923
as opposed to DMC4 that
>dumbs down DMC's namesake gothic visuals into pastel colored anime shit to make it more child friendly
>enemies are the biggest punching bags in the entire series, least original enemies too (tries to bring back neutered versions of DMC1 enemies like the frosts and assaults)
>completely annoying non-enemies like blitzes, chimeras and vaults
>game has only a few bosses, look and play in a completely uninspiring way (le fire boss, le nature boss, le ice boss)
combat wise the game basically goes for quantity over quality but ends up having less of either than the predecessor- Nero is obviously unfinished dogshit with only one weapon and gun, Dante on the other hand is a clusterfuck which is annoying as fuck to control because of how bloated his character is with 3 weapons each mapped to one shoulder button at a time etc
each style is a downgrade from 3 but LE NOW U CAN USE THEM ALL AT THE SAME TIME!1111 completely killing any variety or experimentation with different playstyles
I dont think I even need to mention that 99.9% of people who have put over 100 hours into the game just sit on bloody palace mashing "cool" combos against enemies that stand no chance because this game was made for literal autists
>>345317229
>Nitpicking the story/lore in DmC
Gee, it's almost like you could do the exact same thing with any DMC game
>>345316923
>Le simpsons reaction image
>Talking about "trying"
>>345317278
While I agree with alot of what you said, though I do disagree with a few things, DMC hasn't really had a "gothic" atmosphere since the first game. Nothing about DMC2 / 3 / 4 hit me as gothic. Which is kinda sad actually because I really loved the atmosphere and style of DMC1.
>>345311025
DmC > dmc 3 > dmc 1 > dmc 4 > dmc2
>>345317314
DmC story was marketed as Shakespearean. They also put a lot of thought into it. With its shitty combat you don't get to discard the other half of the game.
>>345317608
>Shakespearean
>Doesn't understand irony
>>345317767
>Implying it was supposed to be ironic
Hi Taneem
>>345317727
Pro-tip: item usage doesn't rank you down, add that to it
>>345317767
Nobody will forget your fedora shame Tam Tam.
>>345317819
Hi, enjoy that SE edition of DMC4 where it's still a 50% done game?
>>345317843
I save too many screencaps and don't name them, so I gotta sift though this fuckoff folder and find my hate for this game.
Anyone have the screencap of """professional""" reviewers saying shit like 'DmC fans kill franchise out of spite because this Dante dared to reinvent the formula and doesn't have white hair' ?
>>345317608
>DmC story was marketed as Shakespearean
No it wasn't.
Some chick who acted in the game blurted out that the themes were almost Shakespearean in an interview. Which while a very silly thing to say, isn't untrue.
>>345318017
>I'm gonna go through my folder to post negative images just to bump a thread of a game I don't like
Childish
>>345318017
Sounds like IGN or Gamespot.
>>345311025
NO REAL DMC
NO BUY
>>345311025
FUCK YOU
>>345318159
Nice clipping there Capcom
>>345318159
>No real dmc
>posts dmc4
thanks for ruining the series
>>345314585
>This fucking post
PLEB N PROUD
>>345318360
Thanks for your shitpost.
>>345318379
Are you retarded? DMC4 is literally the pleb/ normie DMC out of them all
DMC1 and 3 are the actual patricians options followed by the mindless mashing that DmC is
>>345318260
It's an 8 year old game dude.
It's like one of the handful things that actually feel dated about that game.
>>345318379
Nice argument/10
Oh wait, I forgot, my post doesn't agree with the hivemind, oh no
No
DMC5 or fuck off
>>345318473
DMC4 is mechanically deeper than DMC3. And combat is really all that matters.
>>345314585
>just because DMC4 is the only decent HnS on PC- it must be "deep" because you can do so many different moves! ( that still gets curbstomped by your average console game
Advanced peasantry at work
>>345318572
youre a fucking retarded child who obviously thinks "mechanically deeper" means= amount of moves I can perform
each style is neutered dogshit and DMC4 loses to every hack and slash of its time in terms of depth (bayonetta, ninja gaiden)
the only thing the DMC series ever had was its stylistic identity (music, how the combat looks and the bosses/ visuals)
the only DMC that loses in these things to DMC4 is DMC2- and the only reason kids praise DMC4 so much is because
>its seventh gen
>its on PC
>the artstyle doesnt offend faggots
>>345318686
what "peasantry"? Thanks for confirming you never played the competition though retarded normie
>>345318572
>And combat is really all that matters.
What an asinine thing to say.
A game's features don't exist in a vaccum. Some features may be more important than others, but almost all features affect each other.
Graphics, sound, level design and enemies all have an effect on the enjoyment of the combat.
>>345318127
I'm sorry to disappoint you anon. I didn't like the new DmC, and I haven't played the SE so maybe they went ahead and fixed all my problems with the game. The combat felt like a chore because having to stop and focus down one demon with a specific angel or demon weapon bothered me. I liked having to use everything under the sun to pull up decent style ranking, but with DmC I could just spam the Ax air throw over and over and get SSS every fight, it was effortless.
Virgil's special campaign mission was poorly written, and it felt like they were making him the bad guy because he's Virgil so he just kind of has to be. I never grasped a clear motivation over why he felt so utterly betrayed to drag up a demon army and try to take over the world in the never to happen sequel. He and Dante are friends for the entire game, have one boss fight, "oh shit guess I'm evil now. I'm off to hell." Hollow Virgil was stupid as fuck too.
>>345319083
Ough, not that I care much about the fucking lore of any DMC game but, Vergil was a asshole from the start, and saw Kat only as a disposable tool from the start, Dante is the one who changes and becomes mature by the end of the game instead of the brat we see at the start, and he thinks much more highly of Kat because he valed their friendship
The more I play DmC the more I want to go back to DMC3/4. Gameplay itself feels incredibly repetitive and the animations look cartoonish as well compared to those of the previous series. Lack of combat variety and super cool styles. Just stinger/uppercut/aerial rave/orios, Erxy slam and there you go SSS every time. Taunts which have been the series staple are completely absent. Devil Trigger has been nerfed to death and pretty much lost its appeal due to a lack of on-the-go quick transformation that doesn't interrupt your combo and can be utilized against bosses as well. But personally the thing that irritates me to no end and made me drop the game for good are the COLOR CODED ENEMIES. Forcing the player to use specific weapons against specific demons in order to add some artificial difficulty is NOT what DMC is about. They break the overall flow and 'dance' of the combat as well. Whoever came up with this retarded idea at Ninja Theory needs to be fired asap.
>>345318846
While I agree that DMC3 is objectively superior to DMC4 due to a number of factors. Such as the Dante/Vergil rivalry story, being an overall finished and cohesive product along with complete style implementation without any nerfing. There is however no need to get your panties in a twist. Many players may find DMC4 to be the better game for their own reasons and it's easy to see why.
>>345314645
There's always been critics of mediocre trash like Mad World, Anarchy Reigns and Metal Gear Rising
>>345320109
>Many players may find DMC4 to be the better game =//= many neckbeards (wrongly) spout it as the best hack and slash of all time/ deepest combat system of all time because they lack basic knowledge about game design let alone a triple digit IQ
but muh colors flashing fast
>>345311025
No because it's connected to the shtstain known as DmC.
>>345320553
meme opinions, so original
>>345320553
>DMC2 in optional
>DmC:DE in avoid
C'mon now.
>>345320553
Why the fuck would you even put DMC4 and DMC3 vanilla in optional?
They are completely irrelevant. Only reason to play DMC4 is if you have a completely utter fucking toaster.
>>345318017
>Anyone have the screencap of """professional""" reviewers saying shit like 'DmC fans kill franchise out of spite because this Dante dared to reinvent the formula and doesn't have white hair' ?
this?
>>345320867
Neat. Thanks friend.
>>345311025
I buy anything related to devil may cry as long as Nero is not the main character
>>345318020
>No it wasn't.
>Some chick who acted in the game blurted out that the themes were almost Shakespearean in an interview.
except she was representing the company during that interview. So her words were the words of the company in context of the interview.
Why do you think people working for companies gets fired all the time for saying stupid shit on facebook? Because they represent the company
>>345320837
>They are completely irrelevant.
but still good games and thus optional.
Avoid is for shit like DmC and it's HD port.
>>345320553
The definitive edition of DmC is better than the first two games
>>345321339
You're fucking retarded. It's the same game, but with less content.
>HD port
literally fucking kill yourself.
>>345311025
MORE THAN 2 DYNAMIC HUMAN SIZED BOSSES WHEN
>>345321376
>The definitive edition of DmC is better than the first two games
I call bullshit since it's still DmC at it's core.
>>345321480
>>HD port
>literally fucking kill yourself.
I call it as I see it.
>>345320867
What an imbecile. He's obviously just a parrot who's most likely never touched devil may cry. Even though pretty much everyone agrees that the story/aesthetics in DmC were hot garbage there are countless gameplay reasons due to which the series took a turn for the worst in DmC. Everything just feels unnecessarily streamlined just so that casuals don't feel left out and can do "COOL COMBOS". The used one whole button just for uppercuts. REALLY?
>>345321339
>but still good games and thus optional.
What completely retarded reasoning.
You're baiting people into playing inferior versions of two games that offer nothing over their special edition counter parts.
>>345321583
Yeah, at it's core it's a mechanically sound modern beat'em'up with as much, if not more depth than those two games.
The problem with DmC was that it had a horrible fucking story (like 1 and 2) and was replacing the main series, while clearly not living up to the legacy of the previous two games. Were it released as a new IP it would have been generally accepted as a decent enough game.
>inb4 hurr you like DmC lmao
I probably shitposted it more aggressively than anyone else in this thread right now. I hated the game when it was announced and I hate it now for what it represented for the series. That doesn't change anything about the game itself as a standalone product.
>>345321752
>You're baiting people into playing inferior versions of two games that offer nothing over their special edition counter parts.
There's a reason why they are in optional. They can play DMC3 and 4 if they want to but there is no need thanks to the special editions.
>>345321870
>Yeah, at it's core it's a mechanically sound modern beat'em'up
Bitch please, God of War is better than the tripe known as DmC
>>345321583
Well then you're blind, since DmC was already HD. You're obviously a teenager who hadn't heard of rereleases until the HD remaster trend started a few years ago
>>345314585
Why are you in every thread and why do you continue to post your opinion so autistically as if you actually believe any of the garbage you post so high as if it were fact actually isn't.
>I find it hilarious how the LE DEEP COMBAT XDDD meme has became so popular just because DMC4 is the only decent HnS on PC- it must be "deep" because you can do so many different moves! ( that still gets curbstomped by your average console game like ninja gaiden or bayonetta in terms of depth and skill)
Only a retard would tell you that depth comes from the amount of moves and not the way they synergize collectively. The thing about both DMC3 and 4 Dante is that they capitalize on this absurdly well, while allowing for the enemy property and variety to show. DMC is the only action series where you can vary playstyle so absurdly because they get combat depth principles done better than most if not all other entries in the genre. It's why you can vary from the likes of Ramada to Brea to 0er to incneet to Huang to Tensazangetsx and so on. Even if you wanted to say "b-but muh Ninja Gaiden is better!" that's still entirely a non argument that you love jacking off to for some reason when in terms of options and depth it has never been true, strictly due to the fact Ninja Gaiden is a reactionary game whereas DMC was always more on the freestyle side of the spectrum.
Also what in the hell does platform have to do with this. A majority of the reason the series' popularity with combat depth even grew was because of the DMC3 community, and nobody was using that garbage PC port back then. Half of said community continued off that legacy to work on DMC4. Not to mention DmC vanilla's most definitive version is on PC, so where does that game get off free?
>DmC was a step in the right direction
DmC takes literally every complaint you just listed for DMC4 and amplifies them immensely.
>>345321032
Nothing about what she said was wrong though.
DmC has Shakespeare themes, just like pretty much everything else written in the last hundreds of years. It was never said DmC had Shakespeare level quality writing, which is what it was spun into.
>>345321970
It literally isn't. DmC DE is better than any western beat'em'up and better than every Japanese one that isn't DMC 3 and 4, Bayonetta 1 and 2 or Ninja Gaiden 1 and 2
>>345321975
I am aware of re-releases.
DmC:DE basically tightened up the graphics remove a fedora and did nothing else.
>>345322086
It also changed the gameplay, which you would know if you actually paid attention to it beyond what you saw on one thread on /v/.
Regardless, it wasn't a HD remaster like you claimed
>>345322035
>DmC has Shakespeare themes,
point to me in Shakespeare works where a pregnant woman was shot in the stomach with a crossbow.
Yeah I had fun replaying DmC lately.
>>345321997
>why do you continue to post your opinion so autistically as if you actually believe any of the garbage you post so high as if it were fact actually isn't.
I wonder why you do this...
>>345322059
>DmC DE is better than any western beat'em'up
you can stop baiting
>>345322175
saw some videos, they did fuck all to the gameplay unless you count tweaking the "style" meter.
>>345321748
The controls were pretty fucking obviously Bayonetta-derived; a dedicated dodge button, a gap-closing whip, all attacks accessible without the use of lock-on (such as double-tap stingers), a bonus for last-second dodging, etc.
Silly NT for thinking that emulating one of the best action games ever made would be good enough for DMC fans, most of whom genuinely believe Bayonetta is worthless casual trash and are genuinely disappointed that you don't have to press lock-on+back+attack just to do a simple launcher.
On the other hand, DmC WAS poorly constructed in other ways; making Style a function of damage dealt rather than a second counter-balancing stat (to encourage long combos) was a pants-on-head retarded decision that completely negates the whole POINT of the style system, and while slightly changing some mobility options with angel/demon equipped was smart, not making angel/demon modes a more drastic set of core gameplay changes derived from the style-switching system was a huge missed opportunity.
Also, friendly reminder that people who bitch about colored enemies are scrubs.
>>345322193
>Nitpicking
this is the most autistic DMC thread since pre E3
>>345322193
not him but are you underage/ retarded?
>>345322441
NinjaGaidenfag is always in these threads
It's like that one kid nobody invites to the party because they all know he's an annoying irrelevant retard but he keeps pushing himself in to act better and more well informed than everyone else
>>345322193
She was obviously referring to stuff like brotherly betrayal.
I'm not arguing it wasn't a silly thing to say, but it was taken out of context by most.
How does it feel that DmC has worse gameplay than an unfinished game?
>>345322381
Bayonetta is a casual beat'em'up. It's well designed compared to the average shit that comes out, but dial a combo combat is never good.
>>345322597
>but dial a combo combat is never good.
Bayonetta does well enough to make sure that's not an issue though
>>345322371
They also removed the colored enemies, which was a mistake to begin with. It's nice that an improvement over DmC is removing its shitty 'new' features.
>>345322524
is it that icycalm fag? if he's still at it he needs fucking medicated
>>345322371
>>345322671
No, it's a fundamental issue that can't be balanced out by any amount of good design choices (which I admit Bayonetta has plenty of)
>>345322526
>She was obviously referring to stuff like brotherly betrayal.
nice damage control. She said nothing about the themes, she said it was Shakespearean.
>>345322707
I wouldn't know but I also wouldn't be surprised
He always talks as if there's one standard for what makes a good action game when the genre's evolved extremely for that to even be remotely sane
>>345322817
>it's a fundamental issue that can't be balanced out
And what's wrong with the way Bayonetta does it? Why don't her tools fix what would otherwise be a bad design choice on paper?
I'm not asking what's wrong with dial combos. I'm asking how Bayonetta in particular still cannot make them right the way they are.
>>345322597
First of all, you're wrong. Dial-a-combo combat is very frequently good, especially when the game makes use of a system like dodge offset to build a micro-game into the simple act of sustaining a combo to the end for the desired finisher.
Second, Bayo's utility specials are all excellent, afterburner kick + umbran spear alone can do as much with spatial positioning as anything Vergil manages with Trick, so fuck off suggesting that the existence of a diverse dial-a-combo system somehow negates the presence of a strong core-move command-based system.
Third, you can't just throw the word "casual" around because you don't like a game, you know that, right? It's one thing to say you don't like the game, or that you think it's poorly-constructed, but suggesting that the game is meant to appeal to low-skill or unengaged players is objectively nonsense.
>>345322972
Because it's a fundamental issue with the way the game plays. Are you thick?
I liked the first one and I would totally buy the sequel, it was really fun and fuck what this board thinks
>>345322986
I never said it was bad, but dial a combo shit is inherently casual by definition.
I like Bayonetta, but I won't hold it up as a hallmark of the genre because the way it controls inherently limits it as a game.
>>345322820
>nice damage control. She said nothing about the themes, she said it was Shakespearean.
Go back and watch the video again then, because you clearly don't have a very good memory.
>>345323015
>Because it's a fundamental issue with the way the game plays.
One sentence replies never have cut it and never will. I could easily say "no it's not" and revert the whole argument back to neutral.
Difference being you'd still be wrong with that much anyway because there's nothing fundamentally unworkable about dial combos and the game's demands. You could say they're still unfavorable choices for whatever reason. But calling a gameplay mechanism wrong when they do nothing in design to deter you from any in-game goal is just erroneous on your part.
>>345321016
Are you for real? Nero was a great addition to the series.
>>345323154
>Go back and watch the video again then
No thanks
>>345323436
>Are you for real? Nero was a great addition to the series.
better than Donte
>>345323410
Point out where I said it's unworkable. I just said it was bad and nothing else the game does can cover it up.
>>345323141
You don't know what you're talking about.
Even DMC has dial combos.
People who bitch about dial combos in Bayo are just shit at dodge-offset, the game is built around the challenge of sustaining combos to the end and how you can reposition yourself mid-combo to make this feasible.
Meanwhile the utility attacks available to the player (shots, Umbran Spear, Crow feathers, Afterburner Kick, Umbran Portal Kick and Witch Twist, MMK parry, etc) all provide an extremely diverse set of moves for positioning Bayo and instantly triggering a certain hitstun state in an enemy (launched, downed, staggered).
The only difference is instead of smashing Triangle over and over between command attacks, you have to spend some time thinking about what combos you want to dial between command attacks, because which filler-slashes you choose can have an impact on subsequent set-ups.
>>345323536
My bad then.
>I just said it was bad and nothing else the game does can cover it up.
Why is it bad then? Bayonetta isn't in any real way an execution intensive game, and the addition of dials or the fact you need to mash them out is completely irrelevant to that. Aside from that, learning your dials is important as you need to learn which ones carry which properties. Finally, Bayonetta plays defensive, so any thoughtless mashing you do is already by default of the game's design, balanced out; especially when you're putting thought into what it is you do.
So where is it that Bayonetta's attempts at the dial system fail?
>>345323436
>Nero's Devil Bringer and rev mechanic was a great addition to the series.
Fixed that for you.
Nero as a character brought nothing interesting to the series, at best he was an edgier Dante, at worst he was melodramatic Shonen MC.
>>345323870
It doesn't. He just has a rule in his head where "dial = casual" that he probably picked up lurking /cgg/ and he doesn't really know why he feels that way, even though dialing combos is something integral to all great action games and a shitload of great fighting games as well.
>/v/ is now unironically defending DmC and shitting on DMC4
I guess it's really Time to Leave them all Behind™
>>345324023
>that he probably picked up lurking /cgg/
I don't like /cgg/ either but why is it that every time someone on /v/ makes fun of them they're making fun of an aspect of the group that never existed
>>345324069
it's just a shitposter
>>345322086
>did nothing else
it stole mods from the PC version, and added mod/patch tier changes, also 60FPS for console fags
>>345324069
DmC was more enjoyable than DMC4 imoimho 3bqh senpai
>>345324069
Nice job outing yourself as an MGR shitter.
You can join the "I shittalk DmC but simultaneously enjoy just as casual shit" group on the left.
>>345311025
If it's combat is as good as DMC4, sure. But if not, no thanks.
>>345311025
>DmC2
god this got a laugh out of me
I miss him so bad bros.... its been 8 FUCKING YEARS. Anyone else?
>>345324249
I disagree
>>345324256
>You can join the "I shittalk DmC but simultaneously enjoy just as casual shit" group on the left.
you mean the people with tastes?
I'd like literally ANY new hack and slash game for the PC
PC is not getting any of those and every company falls for the muh console exclusive meme and it's so fucking annoying
>>345314517
Ow the edge
>>345324454
There's good a bunch of good ones if you're willing to go for games that aren't just /v/ memes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVrX0MHBZ_I
>>345324318
>>345324256
>>345324449
Let's not derail the thread with this retarded DMC vs MGR shit.
Both are Curazyyy in their own right. Lets leave it at that.
>>345324624
>Both are Curazyyy in their own right. Lets leave it at that.
except DmC is shit. MGR is decent.
>>345324624
MGR is shit, made from Kojima's sloppy leftovers.
Sam is toptier though
>>345324256
fucking this
MGRR secondary weapons have 1-4 moves each and the normal sword has maybe 10 fucking "combos"
and thats not even mentioning how the game is an extremely ugly piece of QTE filled dogshit with music for 14 year old black veil brides kids
>>345324995
>music for 14 year old black veil brides kids
aww, here is some thing that fits for your age grandpa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CevzIXAtX2g
>>345324318
>Megaman got yearly games for a long time
>Resident Evil has about 20 games in the course of 20 years
>Monster Hunter is around 10 years old and has at least 10 or so games to it's name
>DMC is a decade and a half and only has 4 games and a shitty reboot
>cryingwojak.jpg
IT'S NOT FAIR! IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR!
>>345324714
>except DmC is shit. MGR is decent.
MGR's combat is more barebones and shallow than DmC, the ZanDatsu mechanic is horribly implemented, has no real-time weapon switching and the game is severely lacking in difficulties.
It's a rush job made in like a year and it shows.
>>345325147
>4 games and a shitty reboot
You don't like Pachinko and IOS games anon?
Of course you do!
>>345325147
>>345324318
altogether now
thank you con man
>>345325147
>cryingwojak.jpg
>>345324995
What made MGR bad was just that the parry mechanic was piss-easy and trivialized every encounter since it would be input queued behind your attack inputs and only register a parry IF the timing was right for a parry, otherwise the combat system would continue to work, so you could just mash toward + X and nothing bad would ever happen.
And if that wasn't enough, items carried no penalty and you could QTExecute any enemy for instant health refills.
So it was like, who cares.
Jetstream Sam's DLC was pretty alright, though.
>>345325267
Are you seriously suggesting that MGR is inferior to DmC? Good lord.... how low you have fallen /v/.
>>345325353
What does this meme have to do with DMC?
this contarian meme is going too far
>>345325686
it's a shitposter defending DmC, ignore him
>>345325353
THANK YOU CON MAN
>>345314585
>Cringe
Stop cringing at everything, seriously whats wrong with you kids? Why can't you fucks go 30 seconds without having a panic attack? Who the fuck you trying to impress? You aint cool, you're not hard.
>>345311025
I'd play a DmC 2 by Team Ninja
they'd make the best DMC game
>have enemies that are a threat
>have some real combos instead of the simplistic shit for retards that was DmC
>make the game not look like muddy ass, IE not use the fucking unreal engine
>>345325686
They're both shit. Sam DLC was fun, so Rising is slightly better, but the main game was lame. OST was nice, but so was DmC's so that doesn't mean much.
>>345325778
Outsourcing DmC to a western dev was his idea.
>>345314827
>Let me guess
And don't fucking start sentences like that either. It doesn't make you look smart or clever, you're not in the right here, you haven't figured anyone out you got damn sponge.
I oughta take off my belt and spank your ass you fucking invalid. I will kill you with concentrated autism.
>>345325686
>Are you seriously suggesting that MGR is inferior to DmC
Mechanically it is in a lot of ways.
Easily abusable parry
Lack of weapons
Lack of moves
Bad lock on
Bad ranking system
Limited air combos
Blade Mode and Zan Datsu feel hamfisted.
Etc etc
I would say MGR's saving grace is its memorable bosses and dynamic music.
>>345311025
>buy it
hey...ho...stop right there.
>buying games
only if you're a cuck.
music from DmC was fantastic
dont like the older games desu
>>345326173
Lynch the bastard. Doesn't he have any ounce of integrity towards his work? Bet he would pimp his wife if the opportunity presented itself.
>>345325778
Inafune thought DMC4 didn't sell because it was too weebishDMC4 didn't sell that well because it's painfully unfinished and for a niche series it still sold about 4 mil
Inafune told Ninja Theory/Tamtam to make a reboot that appeals to westerners
when Ninja Theory presented a combat system with lock-on and directional inputs, Inafune told them to ditch it because GoW didn't have those
whenever Team Ninja made something, whether it's combat or design, that resembles DMC in DmC, Inafune told them to ditch it and make a DMC game that isn't like DMCall of this came from a neofag,or it was gamefaqs forgotq&a from a dude that supposedly worked on DmC DMC
>>345326687
>it was too weebish
it was
the characters/ artstyle of DMC4 is insufferable and nothing like DMC1/2/3
>>345311192
>>345314137
>>345314585
>>345317278
>>345321016
>>345324256
>>345326129
>>345326239
>>345326426
Poo poo pee pee neo /v/ get the fuck away from me
>>345327016
>le neo /v/
I hope you also turn around and then vehemently defend DMC4
>>345316923
At least the music while a fair amount of it is dubstep actually has some variety as opposed to that one speed metal song that plays in EVERY encounter in 4. Also why do people deny that 4 is an incredibly lazily made game? The second half of the game is just backtracking as Dante. Dropped it pretty much right there.
The first game is the best one, anyway.
>>345326973
Say what you will. But DMC2's dante design is Devil-tier.
>>345326687
Right... do you have any link to that q&a session?
>>345311192
Yeah it was a really solid game with some great visuals and music. The entire Barbas section and Lilith's club were great.
>>345326687
>NT were the good guys all along
I mean TimTam's twitter tirades were asinine, but they clearly wanted to make a good game. I wonder what things would've been like without conman there.
>>345327197
The final boss of DMC2 was good, too. If the whole game was like that fight it'd be great
>>345311025
no the reboot is shit. its got the same generic demons vs angels bullshit story
the original story line was better. a demon turning on other demons and some mutts carrying on the legacy
>>345327016
>if you didn't like ever aspect of DMC4 you're neo /v/
You are the reason the DMC fanbase on this site is so garbage. I remember when DMC threads were chill as fuck just discussing the games without fucking constant meme-spoutting.
>>345314517
>New Dante
>Edgy
>Not more swole than original Dante
>>345326426
you like Wubstep
>>345325778
>>345326604
>>345326687
Inafune is a massive fucking westaboo, this isn't really news. There's a nice pic floating around basically summarizing what he has done over the years.
He outsourced DMC to a western team because he hates Japanese "style". He thought that capitalizing on the western market will be the most profitable choice. This however proved false seeing how nobody in Japan bought it and it sold like shit in the west as well.
Outsourcing Bionic Commando reboot to a Swedish studio was also his idea. Game was shit, it sold like shit and the Swedish studio Grin died after it.
Outsourcing Lost Planet 3 to the west was also his idea. He was shitting on Lost Planet 2 because they made it too "Japanesy" or whatever the fuck. LP2 was great though and it felt like a Monster Hunter with campaign in some ways. It's also rumored that he's the reason they won't localize Lost Planet Troopers. A game so dedicated to Japan it can't even change the logo.
When he was in charge of a Ninja Gaiden spin-off he outsourced it to a western team that made that shit known as Yaiba.
I'm probably missing something but all in all this is the guy that wears USA military servicemen jackets on the interviews and it shows.
>>345327641
>I remember when DMC threads were chill as fuck just discussing the games without fucking constant meme-spoutting.
and then the reboot came along an ruined everything
>>345327650
>Donte
>More swole than DMC4 Dante
He's fit, sure, but not swole
>>345326973
Have to agree with this.
Much like MGS, DMC was a cool mix between eastern and western styles, but by DMC4 it had started tilting way too much towards the former.
Way more flamboyantly colored
Almost no horror elements
Cluttered costume designs
Very generic new MC
Devil Trigger stand
Johnny fucking Bosch
Melodrama
Most of the above didn't even bother me since they were present in earlier games, but it had started losing the elements that made DMC's style original in the first place
>>345327904
Well yeah but DMC4 Dante was if DMC3 Dante decided to go to /fit/
>>345328003
>Well yeah but DMC4 Dante was if DMC3 Dante decided to go to /fit/
spot on, DMC3 Dante was still somewhat hetero
>>345319083
>but with DmC I could just spam the Ax air throw over and over and get SSS every fight, it was effortless.
So don't do that? If you're stylish normally instead of intentionally trying to inflate your rank with cheap exploits like that you'll find that it's pretty good.
And I never understood the gripe about that anyways: Is the style rating really so important to the game? I always thought of it as a neat gimmick.
>>345328003
Well, considering he's the same guy but older I don't really see what's wrong with that
>>345327908
>Devil Trigger stand
Too Japanesey or not I really liked this one
No. They burned any chance when they started complaining about "entitled fans" and reducing all legitimate complaints of the game to the fact that they changed his hair.
Maybe if Itsuno and his team are behind it.
Otherwise it can fuck off.
>>345322371
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMD17gXBjeU
>>345321032
Your image is cherrypicking the level-headed comments. It ignores the blatant shitposting and complete inane bitchfits in comment sections that 99% of the fanbase pulled. Actively attacking, campaigning, petitioning against NT and sending death threats even. It genuinely reminded me of Smash autism.
I mean, my god: to this day more than half of this board's DMC fanbase hasn't even played the game but turns their nose up at it anyways and parrot things they've heard other faggots say that are completely wrong or taken so out of context it's irrelevant.
>>345330724
>Your image is cherrypicking the level-headed comments.
Damage control
>>345327381
I'm glad I'm not the only one who actually enjoyed DmC
Music and art direction were spot on
>>345332225
art direction was okay but the wubstep was horrible
>>345314585
>>345333226
Homura did nothing wrong.
>>345332863
It also had some nice Aggrotech though
>>345333964
>Aggrotech
stop making shit up
>>345327016
You know /v/ only started liking DMC 4 when Dmc DMC was revealed
>>345332863
There was maybe 2 wubstep tracks in the whole OST, and those were by Noisia and not Combichrist. Some non-wubstep songs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LymDcCpcn3U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NTUMuMRzSc&index=9
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qmo_duYs-yQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAOjPsvE8mc&index=8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdXbeHVdtkY
>>345311025
Yes.
In fact, I enjoyed DmC so much that even though I originally got itfor freeon PS+ for my PS3, I went ahead and bought it anyway on my PS4. It's a fun game.
>>345334335
Combichrist is in it so technically yeah
>>345334335
It's Electric Industrial, been around for a long time. Aggrotech is just a modern offshoot that Combichrist makes heavy use of
>>345314645
Yeah, Platinum has always been subpar in my eyes. The only game they made that I enjoyed after they stopped working as Clover was W101. Couldn't be asked to finish any other Plat game.
Stopped playing MGR after fighting Sundowner, stopped playing Bayo after the Giant Head Snake Lord boss, and stopped playing Vanquish after the 1st mission.
>>345311025
DmC was a good game honestly, even if it was a shitty entry in the DMC series.
The thing is, I don't think that it being developed internally will help it. DmC had a totally different style of gameplay from other games in the series.
All we need to do is get this guy to say DmC was fine and then /v/ will stop bitching.
>>345335851
He seems to be like Kamiya.
Stopped caring about the series after the first game.
>>345335851
/v/ already thinks that DmC is good though, even if it is just for the sake of baiting others.
>>345311025
I thought DmC was really fun good. I think NT could address the problems they had in DmC and put out a solid sequel more in-line with the original series while retaining the style change and unique elements it introduced. DE proves they are willing to fix things.
The whole thing was an origins story, really:
Dante starts out as a trashy, arrogant punk living in a world that literally wants to undermine and kill him at every opportunity, so naturally he's completely wild and has a harsh personality.
As he meets Vergil (who he starts looking up to) and Kat (who he falls in love with) he opens up a lot more and relaxes. When Vergil shows that he's fucking crazy, Dante changes even more. By the end of the game he's in the middle of a full transition to DMC3 Dante, hair nearly completely white and everything.
If there's a sequel it would probably be much more laid back, at least in my opinion.
>>345335851
>implying
monsieur memetosis can fuck right off, by the time a dmc:dmc video happens dmc6 is already out
>>345337120
>really fun good
kek
really good*
>>345337120
Now this is actually a good contribution to the thread.
And I could agree to this route, but they really should improve their character designs.
Donte himself is fine, but everyone else looked fairly generic; at least compared to the characters of the main series.
I'm curious about where they wanted it to go with Virgil. But I'm sure it would have been disappointing just like how all the pre-release spoilers were all much more creative Ideas than what actually happened dispite how stupid we all thought they were.
>>345337729
>And I could agree to this route, but they really should improve their character designs.
Donte himself is fine, but everyone else looked fairly generic; at least compared to the characters of the main series.
I thought Donte easily had the best design out of all the characters in the reboot.
Making a fucking "realistic Dante" is a nigh impossible task to begin with. But making him punkish made the combat boots and fingerless gloves work, making the inside of his coat red was also a neat touch.
Vergil however felt like a fucking mess which they had no idea what to do with. Those tacky pants, surgeon gloves, embroidered skull, butt cape, fedora, holy fuck he looks dumb.
It feels like they had no idea how to reimagine Vergil for their new take.
>>345337120
>>The whole thing was an origins story, really:
no it wasnt
it was just DMC3 and 1's story smashed together with a half assed political messaged shoved into it
>>345338770
You dont think the demons being exposed at the end sets up Dante's shop? Who is going to hunt them?
>>345337120
>I thought DmC was really fun
Stopped reading there shitter :^)
>>345339906
a demon shop is too cheesy and anime
it wouldnt happen
>people unironically liked DMC4
What the fuck? Why did you guys leave reddit and start posting here with your shit opinions.
>hurrduurrr we also hate CoD abloobloo
grow the fuck up cunts
>>345340067
It could, and would.
DMC has always been cheese and anime
>>345340212
(You)
>>345340446
not DmC
>>345311025
I would never buy a game that stars Donte and Virgin even if it was developed by Jesus Christ. The characters are such absolute unlikable edgelord shit that it doesn't even matter what the gameplay is like.
>>345335851
Hopefully he does, so we can get back to game discussion instead of this pathetic underage "I HATE IT BECAUSE ITS POPULAR >:(" shit that goes on from the likes of >>345340552
>>345314585
>LE DEEP COMBAT XDDD
>mashing jumpcancels XDD
this is /v/ now
>>345340831
>implying the alternative is better
Why don't you actually just fucking leave /v/? You've been wanting to for some time now, so just fucking do it and spare us all the melodramatic shit fucking cunt.
>>345340952
christ I struck a nerve in ya didnt I
>>345311025
if it amped up the edge to 11 and played it straight with everyone over acting yeah I would play it, at least then it would have decent gameplay
>>345338750
>realistic Dante" is a nigh impossible task to begin with
>you know the sword holster in DMC3? The thing that looks less ridiculous compared to the sword just sticking to his back in all games? Yeah, let's remove that
>let's also give him a wife beater, can't make people think he is a fag, right?Fuck you Ninja Theory, where is my topless Donte costume
>>345340605
Agreed. My face the first time I saw my favorite character turned into a cringy le hacker fedora wearing edgelord. All it took was one cutscene to turn him from a bro into a moustache twirling villain. Calling his evilness shoehorned in would be an understatement.
"I've got a bigger dick" - Vergil (DmC)
would this DmC 2 have Vorgilsaurus?
>>345311192
>most people don't give a shit about the """"story"""" of DMC anyway
Ironically DMC3 has one of better stories in video games
