to this day I don't understand why people sucked sony's dick for that horrible polygon shit
Not even the 3D games were good. Best platforms or either on N64 or Sega Saturn
Because ps1 had games
I actually prefer the style of PS1 games generally over PS2/3.
>>345258345
Tell me 3 PS1 exclusives worth playing
I had a PS1 and 99% of the time I used for cd audio playback
>>345258281
>hated PS1
>"liked" Sega "can't do 3D or alpha" Saturn
literal double-standard shit taste.
>>345258574
>Tell me 3 PS1 exclusives worth playing
Silent Hill
Metal Gear Solid
Final Fantasy 7-9
Parasite Eve
Spyro 1-3
>>345258694
saturn had decent 2D 32-bit games
>>345258574
Ace Combat 1, 2, & 3
Adventures of Little Ralph
Alundra 1 & 2
Arc the Lad Collection
Armored Core & Project Phantasma
Assault Retribution
Azure Dreams
Brave Fencer Musashi
Breath of Fire III & IV
Brigandine: The Legend of Forsena
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
Colin McRae Rally
Crash Bandicoot 1, 2, & 3
Crash Team Racing
Dragon Valor
Einhänder
Elemental Gearbolt
Eternal Eyes
Final Fantasy VII, VIII, IX
Frogger
Front Mission 3
G-Darius
Galerians
Ghost in the Shell
Gradius Gaiden
Grandia
Gungage
Harmful Park
Heart of Darkness
I.Q.: Intelligent Qube
Jumping Flash! 1 & 2
Kartia: The Words of Fate
King's Field 1, 2, 3
Kingsley's Adventure
Klonoa
Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver
Legend of Dragoon
Legend of Legaia
Legend of Mana
Looney Tunes Racing
MediEvil 1 & 2
Metal Gear Solid
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee and Abe's Exodus
Panzer Bandit
PaRappa the Rapper
Parasite Eve I & II
Persona 2: Innocent Sin
Pu Li Ru La
Rapid Reload
Relevations: Persona
Rhapsody: A Musical Adventure
Ridge Racer
Rising Zan: The Samurai Gunman
Rollcage Stage II
SaGa Frontier I & II
Shadow Tower
Silent Hill
Skullmonkeys
Spriggan
Spryo the Dragon I, II, & III
Star Ocean: The Second Story
Strider 2
Suikoden I & II
Summon Night
Super Robot Wars Alpha Gaiden
Syphon Filter
Tales of Destiny
Tales of Eternia
Wild Arms 2
Tekken 3
Tenchu: Stealth Assassins
Threads of Fate
Thunder Force V
Tomba! 1 & 2
Twisted Metal 1 & 2
Vagrant Story
Valkyrie Profile
Vib-Ribbon
Wild Arms
wipEout 3
Xenogears
>>345259658
D-DELETE THIS
NINTENDO 64 WAS THE BEST CONSOLE OF THAT GEN
>>345258281
I was a Saturn dude too despite having both. I will say that at the time MGS 1 was pretty mindblowing though for a console game.
>>345260019
The novelty of a cinematic game wore off real fast though.
>>345260105
Not in my playthrough of it and even in recent playthroughs the game is still damn impressive on that hardware
>>345260019
>being a saturn dude
>with all those no games
top
lel
>>345260317
>Being an EOP
>>345260354
Only worthwhile Saturn exclusives:
- Guardian Heroes
- Princess Crown
- ....
PS1 had some quirks that made its games look worse than other games at the time but if you look at other games from the same time period, even on PC, they looked similar. The thing that killed PS1 games was the no floating points vertexes or whatever it was that caused the warping. Not sure if PC games at the time could do texture filtering either but the texture squares also looked bad.
If games that were on the PS1 got PC ports they often looked quite a bit better just because of getting around these quirks, like MGS1 or Driver.
But I mean low polygon amounts and shitty textures were par for the course in the late 90s.
>>345260440
NiGHTS
Iron Storm
Panzer Dragoon 1+2
Dragon Force
get out of here kiddo
>>345260836
you forgot Die Hard Arcade and House of the Dead
>>345259658
>Tenchu: Stealth Assassins
Good game but Tenchu 2 was so much better. Should always be mentioned in the "best sequels ever" discussion.
>>345260813
There's a whole bunch of problems with the PS1 hardware that make everything look like shit.
No float support means vertices jitter like crazy.
Affine texture mapping means textures warp.
No Z-buffer means problems with Z-fighting were common and profound.
PS1 hardware was designed for nothing but pushing polygons with impressive on-paper specs but it looked like shit in the hands of the developers, just like every playstation console.
>>345258281
Am I the only one who thought Meryl and SS hair looks like a meatball?
>>345259658
>twisted metal 1 and 2
>not including 4
Why leave out the best in the series?
>>345260974
>Die Hard Arcade
Only played a demo, looked awful.
Anyone ever played Robotica? Loved that game.
>>345260836
Not that guy but nice 4 games, PlayStation had about 40 worth playing then at least
>>345260813
PGXP, a pcsxr fork fixes a lot of the issues. Texture perspective correction, and anti-jitter. ONLY PGXP has texture perspective correction.
>>345261193
The PS1 was developed before you even had any standardized consumer solutions for 3d graphics. The were literally guessing in which way 3d will develop for gaming. And seeing how it all turned out I think they made the right choices.
>>345261462
Awww sheeit brother, I loved Robotica.
>>345261475
I didn't want to bore someone underage with all my shmups or as you call them: stupid old people quarter muncher arcade spaceship pacman like games
>>345261914
What other ways are you even thinking they might have expected? The PS1 was still missing a lot of stuff that even the N64 had and they just had to live with it until the PS2 came out.
>>345261914
I suppose they made the best choices that they could at the time. They certainly made better choices than Sega did. But let me tell you, the N64 really did benefit from that extra year or so in the works.
>>345260019
>Azure Dreams
because it had cinematics and voice acting
other than that it was horrible
I only played metal gear to the end when the remake was released
>>345261948
>with all my shmups
Unless you imported from japan you didn't have many shmups to chose from on the saturn in the US.
Honestly, it depends.
The best looking Sony games in my opinion were the ones that had either stylized graphics (Crash, Spyro, Ape Escape, etc), pre-rendered backgrounds (Resident Evil, Final Fantasy games, etc), or did 2D Graphics with 3D touches.
Coming from the Genesis, the Playstation was pretty damn great. Admittedly I thought the N64 had better visuals at the time (I still remember wanting to play SM64 so badly), but Nintendo did their normal dick move and did not produce enough shit for the holidays, so I did not get a N64 until a good 3 years after.
>>345262212
Of course I imported them, my favorites are Souky and Kingdom Grandprix. I have an ST Key to play imports on and now I rock Pseudo Saturn despite owning about every game for the system short of Battle Garegga due to price
>>345262097
>The PS1 was still missing a lot of stuff that even the N64 had
Maybe you should look up when was the PSX finalized and when it was in the case of the N64. They are literally years apart.
>>345259658
that amount of shovelware
Just like the PS2
>>345262260
Crash is such a masterpiece of technology. Every glaring hardware problem with the PS1 (no floats, affine textures, no Z-buffer) was creatively and efficiently sidestepped.
A shame that meant the game was forced to take place in a corridor.
>>345262426
Kill yourself.
>>345262512
a good console is remembered because the amazing games you still play after 10-20 years
There is no PS1 game worth playing in 2016 save for Strider 2 (all other games have better PC/PS2 ports)
>>345262368
I know they weren't released at the same time but I'm not sure why you say they foresaw how 3D graphics would go if they were missing tons of shit that became common even a couple years after it came out.
>>345262426
Name 1 single game on that list and defend your position on it being shovelware.
>>345261948
The shmups are just inferior ports of the arcade games. There's 0 reason to touch most of them them nowadays
>>345258281
>to this day I don't understand why people sucked sony's dick for that horrible polygon shit
I dunno, I guess you had to be alive back then to appreciate it.
>>345262426
I've never seen denial/bait so obvious,thanks for the chuckle m80
>>345262724
>no reason to own a PS1 kid, you can emulate them all on higher quality computer hardware and make the games look and run way better
Lets stick to arguing about the systems in their respective generations if you don't mind, I think it'll cut down on your silly arguments
3d sucked until the ps2/xbox/dreamcast. ps1, 64, saturn, all looked like tragic accidents in real time. if you havent noticed, during the ps1 era is when 2d and 2.5 shit flourished because it had all that extra power to use.
>>345262620
I don't know if you only pretend to be stupid or really don't realize that 3 years is enough for 3d graphical processing to make a huge jump both in chip design and implementation.
>>345262610
Not him but I literally just replayed Legend of Legaia on Thursday and I'm replayed at least five of those games in the last six months or so.
>>345262610
Well, I still play MGS, Spyro and Crash from time to time. Your point is invalid
>>345262959
So you're saying Sony wasn't successful at foreseeing how 3D graphics would go even only a couple years down the line.
>>345262260
>Coming from the Genesis, the Playstation was pretty damn great. Admittedly I thought the N64 had better visuals at the time (I still remember wanting to play SM64 so badly), but Nintendo did their normal dick move and did not produce enough shit for the holidays, so I did not get a N64 until a good 3 years after.
AW DAMN, I think I had blocked out this trauma from my childhood after I finally got an N64 like two years later (with the best game ever, BK). Growing up in Miami, I remember just how hard it was to find N64's. They were sold out everywhere.
Then again, so was the PS1 I think. America sure had deep pockets back in the Clinton years.
>>345262610
I just played and beat Suikoden 1 and 2 a few weeks ago, fuck off m8
N64 would have been GOAT if:
It used a disk based system to begin with
and it didn't have the shit built-in anti aliasing.
>>345262904
The discussion was about exclusives, not inferior arcade ports though. Funnily enough PS1 actually has exclusive, top-quality shmups in addition to ports of the best arcade games.
>>345263040
No I'm saying that Sony had enough foresight to make a chip that didn't become obsolete in three years and continued to successfully for another three to fight and beat nintendo.
>>345262620
PS1 will always be remembered as the console who made shit polygon graphics the standard
>>345262997
If you prefer MGS on Ps1 over the gamecube version you are simply a joker and must your opinion is irrelevant by the time you type anything.
>>345263193
I think N64 was a joke as well. most games 8-12mb.
Hardware was shit by late 1997 (1 year after its release) and the controller was the cheapest thing I've ever seen
>>345263193
And if it had actual games worth playing that wasn't the usual Nintendo shit.
>>345263193
And if it had fucking games.
>>345263275
You're really going to argue that PS1 did arcade ports better than the Saturn? Even in regards to shmups? I think you need to buy a Saturn before saying anything so silly.
>>345263193
>It used a disk based system to begin with
no
>and it didn't have the shit built-in anti aliasing.
yes
>>345263410
anybody who says that arcade ports on PS1 was anything above mediocre must be banned from /v/
>>345263283
Sony always banks off other tech than just video games for their consoles to be successful. The PS1 was a CD player, the PS2 was a DVD player, and the PS3 was a bluray player. That and the PS1 had a huge advantage with discs in general allowing for a lot more storage space for better textures, prerendered cutscenes and backgrounds, and better audio.
They weren't competitive solely because of their "foresight" in regards to 3D graphics.
>>345263487
I agree completely, hopefully you could tell that's what I meant, I wrote it a bit confusing but >>345263275 here is trying to tell me that Saturn did shit shmup ports and the PS1 did it better. Considering reporting him desu because there is no way he's serious
>>345263410
Saturn only did good ports of titles that ran on sega hardware anyway. And they weren't even that good ports ex. Daytona - wasn't even close to looking like the arcade.
>>345263410
>>345263487
Fuck off back to /vr/, Saturnbabby.
>>345263316
>over the gamecube version
Why not play MGS2 instead, the game actually intended for that engine?
>>345263410
Never argued that, dummy. I argued that the PS1 has actual top quality exclusive shmups for some of the biggest names like Gradius and R-Type so there's a reason to boot it up unlike the Saturn which was made obsolete by the existence of MAME when it comes to shmups.
>>345263316
>Hardware was shit
Lol, you have be 10 degrees of stupid or delusional to believe this. 3DFX cards that could compete with the Reality chip didn't arrive for PC until the year 2000.
Can you show me a PC game that could do this before 2000? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPkDoR06X7Y
Hell, Majora's Mask and Bad Fur Day are nearly PS2 quality.
>>345263539
PS1 always paid journalists to shill
In mid 90s was "3D graphics", in early 2000s was "DVD Cinema Quality" and in mid 2000s was "Reality Synthesizer"
Memes, memes..
>>345263316
I prefer that metal gear because the cutscene direction, voice acting, and music are all better in the ps1 version. Every dumbass knows that the gameplay and graphics are better in the gcn version, but that's about it. Everyone's voice acting sounds off and not as good even though it's the same fucking people. Wasn't really a fan of the "bullet cutting" cutscene shit but that doesn't trigger me as bad as most on here.
>>345263735
Too bad Gradius and R-Type are shit and Raizing's catalog on the Saturn alone annihilates the totality of Konami and Irems shmup catalog.
>>345263780
>Hell, Majora's Mask and Bad Fur Day are nearly PS2 quality.
I agreed with everything else in this post but seriously, calm down.
>>345263853
Yeah, also too bad nobody in their right mind would play Raizing's games on the fucking Saturn
>>345263539
Nintendo didn't have a chance to win even if it had a cd player not after a decade of treating devs like slaves.
>>345263732
I said if you are really going to play metal gear 1, play the gamecube version
Is it too hard to understand that?
By the way the best version of Metal Gear Solid 2 was on Xbox before the remasters.
>>345263780
I know N64 had good graphics so what? 12mb, mono audio and smooth 18fps for almost every game even with 4mb expansion pak added.
>>345263839
Watch the cutscenes on youtube then you idiot
>>345263883
I don't know about Majora's Mask but Conker did resemble a PS2 game at times. Not all the time but it was pretty damn cool they were able to pull off a lot of that stuff on the N64.
>>345263853
>raizing
>good
Bloody Roar is the only thing of note that they made that's worth a shit.
Sony had the sense not to have texture filtering on their console. It may look dated but is way more aesthetically pleasing that the literal vomit-looking graphics N64 ended up with.
Honestly, filtering should have been laid off on until the 7th gen. Grainy pixellation > blurred ass soup.
>>345263824
Yeah and nintendo had a dedicated magazine to just shill in their name. Nintendo fanboys are the biggest meme ever. Literally indoctrinated through TV magazines and movies to defend nintendo since the late 80s
>>345260105
Tell that to the dozens of millions of people who still buy Neo Naughty Dog games.
>>345264130
compare the early Shenmue on Saturn to MGS1
Saturn was way better than Playstation
>>345264124
shmups are too hard for me: the post
>>345264293
What does that have to do with my post?
>>345259658
>all that shit and shovelware
>>345258524
with you on that, the main reason being it's often a half measure for ps2/ps3 games
low poly has a special place in my heart
>>345264130
>>345264336
t. saturnbabby
nigga could only play shmups on his dead console
>>345264401
Low poly can look good but I hate low res textures. Even flat shading and simple colours looks better.
>>345259852
It was. I could probably match that list without having to pad it with garbage like Looney Tunes Racing and wip3out
>>345264178
Nintendo audience is basically the same as Sony today
I don't even who were worse in the 90s
>>345264178
>Literally indoctrinated through TV magazines and movies to defend nintendo since the late 80s
You could be unto something here. When I was a kid, I had a Nintendo Power issue that had an article discussing how to argue against fans of Nintendo's competitors.
>>345262456
How did Spyro shatter that expectation though, as it's not a corridor?
>>345263780
Could you point out exactly how this is impressive so I can more easily reply? I mean it looks fine and pretty good for an N64 game but it doesn't look that different from some higher end PC games in the 1999-2000 area. I'm just thinking maybe I don't understand some of the tech stuff going on. I think SWAT 3 looks pretty good and it's from 1999.
>>345264498
Then do it, you faggot.
>>345264498
>Garbage like wipeout
lol
>>345264451
t. playstationbabby
Dark Souls is just the hardest game ever made huehue! Shmups are designed to take your quarters and munch them like cheetohs! They're literuhly impossible!
>>345264471
>but I hate low res textures
i get that, it didn't bother me too much at the time
>>345264293
Saturn shenmue was made by a first party that had access to everything concerning the technical side of the system MGS was just a third party made on normal dev kits. If you don't believe me another example of first party devs having better dev kits and tech to develop is Rare. They even had access to bigger carts something that nintendo only gave to one other dev beside them.
>>345264419
you know this picture makes me think.
Were the PS1 and N64 logos made using only green, red, blue and yellow on purpose?
Like to test the colors or something?
>>345264524
I was a nintendo fan boy for a brief period in the wii era
I was really brainwashed and refused to play any PS3/360 game
>>345264603
Post you're scores or shut up
>>345264529
I have no fucking clue, Insomniac are just wizards.
>>345264603
The best shmup ever was on Playstation.
>>345262636
Not him, but Looney Tunes racing was a shit attempt at what CTR did well.
>>345264685
I don't want to turn on my dead console, it's just stupid, why would I turn it on to play inferior non-exclusive shmups when I could play them on my home arcade gameroom cabinets
>>345264652
>I was really brainwashed and refused to play any PS3/360 game
Why? I understand shilling for someone on /v/ but outright refusal to play something based on platform is a bit drastic.
>>345264613
So which company had access to everything concerning the technical side of PS1? and which game they made?
>>345264761
that game was fucking good m8
>>345263353
Underaged.
>>345264734
Oh god, you're going to say it's that square euroshmup aren't you. If that's the case you have no idea how wrong you are.
>>345264808
I used to frequent NeoGAF and talked with people from nintendolife
I was just brainwashed
It's like "us against the world"
>>345259658
Oh come on the first 3 Air Combats were not good enough to be put on this list
>>345264871
Gradius V on PS2 (or Gaiden on PS1).
>>345264792
Good question. What are you, some kinda casual who drops games after barely getting a shit clear?
>>345264952
Ace Combat 3 JP was glorious.
>>345264037
And my point was that the gamecube version as a whole doesn't really give me anything more MGS2 couldn't do. So, going by presentation I'd choose the PS1 game.
>By the way the best version of Metal Gear Solid 2 was on Xbox before the remasters.
>no skateboarding minigame
>random framerate drops
The game was built to work on the PS2 by the team's engineers which had proper experience with the hardware, Xbox and PC may run at a higher resolution and even look better, but they received no comparable optimization and ran on brute force alone which has its limits.
I never owned a ps1 growing up but some of the most fun I've ever had was going back and playing mgs1, silent hill 1, and the RE games for the first time.
>>345264952
Fuck you, Ace Combat 2 and 3 were god tier.
3 had a shit localization but the original was great.
>>345264982
sure kid, nice strawman
>>345264968
god no, Gradius is trash and always has been
>>345264816
Sony was very liberal with their documentation but the devs closest to them that made some impressive games were Naughty Dog and Insomiac.
>>345265017
>So, going by presentation I'd choose the PS1 game.
Choosing PS1 because cinematics instead of watching on youtube
>no skateboarding minigame
> they received no comparable optimization and ran on brute force alone which has its limits.
you are simply retarded.
>>345263052
I actually was not too far from you back in the day (was living in St. Petersburg at the time). I remember N64 was sold out for a good year or so where I was at in a way similar to the Wii, and the Playstation was absolutely everywhere. I remember the Sega Saturn being uncommon though, I don't remember Walmart or many of the major chains at the time carrying it. First time I ever saw one in the 90s was at a electronic store at a mall in Tampa.
>>345265017
Not him but the PS2 version of MGS2 wasn't a solid 60 fps either. I have read about people on PC when it came out there talking about poor performance but I doubt it was affecting everyone. And the higher resolution is a reason a game might run poorly.
>>345265143
Crash looks like vomit compared to Shenmue on Saturn
>>345265105
>gradius is trash
sup underage
what was the name of that emulator that "fixed" the PS1?
somebody had a webm of vagrant story that looked great in motion, no vertex jitter or texture warping at all
>>345259658
>no jade cocoon
>>345265272
We don't even know if the saturn shenmue run on a stock saturn or a dev station(there is a big difference).
>>345264543
Well my point is that the N64's hardware wasn't "shit" for its time. As for my webm, I was more accurately referring to the way the game can render facial animations using the in-game engine. The webm you posted for example doesn't have any that I can see. More importantly, he makes a kneecap shot which were introduced in Goldeney two years before. But anyways, I don't care enough to continue.
>>345265282
I grew up with Gradius on NES kid. As a series it is trash
>>345265282
He's right r-type where it's at. Once you tried r-type gradius is just trash.
>>345265609
R-Type is Gradius for casuals
>>345265495
SWAT 3 does have facial animation on hostages and stuff. And shooting things in the game leaves bullet holes, like on characters or objects, and you can shoot through pretty much anything with varying penetration values depending on gun and ammo.
Also you posted a cutscene.
>>345265174
Presentation includes texture work, color palette, music, voice acting in codec calls (actually game relevant).
Why don't you give me a compelling argument on why should I play the gamecube version instead?
>you are simply retarded.
Those versions run on like 3 times the specs (in case of the PC version they recommend 1800mhz and SSE, there's a special executable just for that set of inctructions, which I suppose is some kind of optimization) and yet they don't seem to go beyond the PS2 looks or performance.
Look I prefer Nintendo to Sony for a LOT of reasons, but saying the N64 > Playstation is just shitposting.
>>345265495
In fact N64 was a mistake.
In 1996 everyone was already able to work with hundreds of mega bytes of data while you had to compress everything into 12mb on N64 plus the hardware while not bad was already very outdated 1,5 years later after its release
>>345265804
PC version is bad, the xbox version is great
>>345265270
>Not him but the PS2 version of MGS2 wasn't a solid 60 fps either
Did people make videos about MGS2's framerate? I'm not talking about stress conditions such as with smoke effects and others, but the game running at nominal speed. I supposed that since the game engine is bound to the framerate, if it ever dropped from 60 you would notice. Unless they did the "let's skip half the frames when the drawcalling gets intense" switcharoo.
>>345265289
PGXP.
>>345266290
MGS 3 had smooth 14fps on PS2 and MGS2 was sub 30fps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQh0i-WPC-E
>>345266230
And N64 barely had anything past platformers.
>>345265804
Consoles in the past could be more optimized because they were purely for playing games. But I would think the standard PC resolution was higher than the PS2 resolution. And the PC version does have a setting for a 32 bit z buffer. Not sure if that's better than what the PS2 could do.
>>345266290
The framerate would often drop outside and the cutscenes were all 30 fps while on PC most of them can do 60 fps, but there's an engine limitation that drops the framerate to 30 fps when particle effects get heavy which is still on the PC version.
>>345266125
>PC version is bad
I own the PC version and glad I also have a supported video card so that I don't get glitches on any setting. It gets its job done if you have the beefy enough hardware. I don't see how the Xbox version can be better than PS2 if not for the slightly higher resolution.
>>345265924
Yeah, and I'm Moot in the flesh.
I never personally owned a PS1, and I do have fond memories or MGS, but I've never been in a situation where I had to play any PS1 game, like N64 games. I remember the first time I ever saw RE2, when the guy gets killed at the beginning, thinking "THIS console came out after N64? Looks worse than the worst part of any N64 games I've ever seen." because I was a little kid.
Today I can see that they're not as ugly as I thought, but PS1 games are like junk food, while N64 was the Golden Corral. Show me something as ambient as the Spirit Temple on PS1 and PROVE ME FREAKING WRONG.
>>345266290
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGV_kBNaRl0
>>345266574
>MGS 3 had smooth 14fps on PS2
I thought we were talking about MGS2?
>MGS2 was sub 30fps
No it wasn't? I asked for a video which measured frame updates.
>>345266745
>I never personally owned a PS1, and I do have fond memories or MGS, but I've never been in a situation where I had to play any PS1 game
are you fucking serious
please tell me this is just shitposting
>>345266125
You already said this, and you were already proven wrong.
>>345266619
>PS2 if not for the slightly higher resolution
It has better effects, better sound, better frame rate
>>345266745
>Today I can see that they're not as ugly as I thought, but PS1 games are like junk food, while N64 was the Golden Corral.
WOW A FUCKING FOOD ANALOGY WHY AM I NOT SURPRISED.Also Golden Corral is shit.
>>345267153
>It has better effects
I'm watching that video, I'm not 100% sure but judging by the colors it seems the guy is recording PS2 off composite or s-video instead of component or RGB. That has an impact on the whole color output and on the general blurring so it may not be an entirely fair comparison
About the resolution, PS2 runs at 512x448 so of course effects are going to look better on the better consoles, they have more pixels to show them, and with a high-quality signal (you can't catch 480p from composite/s-video).
>better sound
The sound is exactly the same, and music was likely recorded from a PS2-like mixer.
>better frame rate
Let me continue with that video.
Low poly thread?
>>345266930
N64 would have been great in 1994, not in late 1996
>>345263193
The N64 was like some jetfighter with more of the impresives skills of it time, but with not compatible gas. Nintendo did a pretty dumb move making the developers packs closed and very hard to understand. All caused the need to fit a 64mb game in a 2-4mb memory.
>>345264652
>>345264901
Hey, me too. I think it was because I was a teenager and could only afford a single console. Image some kind of hyper nationalism for a console brand. Or maybe because I came to 4chan from Newgrounds like all the old cancer back them.
>>345266602
It's true, N64 did only have 380 games or so, to the PS1's 2000. But it did have a variety of other genres to compensate for this, including:
>assortment of original racing games (Extreme-G 1 & 2, Snowboaring 1080, Snowboard Kids, Diddy Kong, Mario, Lego Racers, Hot Wheels, Road Rash 64, Vigilante 8; I don't think there was any setting of racer or automobile game N64 didn't have.)
>horror games better than RE (Castlevanias, Nightmare Creatures, Hybrid Heaven)
>futuristic shooter games ahead of their time (WinBack, Sin & Punishment)
>Killer RPGs (Paper Mario, Ogre Battle 64, Flying Dragon)
>Super Smash Bros. need I say more?
>and my favorite, seasonal stealings of PS1 and PC's best games (MML, RE2, Starcraft, Doom, Quake, Quake 2, HeXen)
>>345267742
>component or RGB.
PS2 can do component but the game is only 480i anyway.
>>345267989
Oh shoot, how could I forget the best racing GOAT.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWd0NikBw-I
If EA made a decent sequel today I would forgive all their sins thus far.
>>345267989
>Killer RPGs (Paper Mario, Ogre Battle 64, Flying Dragon)
Killer indeed. Killed RPG on Nintendo that since SNES not a single great RPG was released for any nintendo system
>>345267989
>>horror games better than RE (Castlevanias, Nightmare Creatures, Hybrid Heaven)
I desperately hope you're just fucking with me.
>>345267742
Guy says in one of the comments that he used component for all of them.
>>345268124
That's why I was specific and said both (PS2 outputs RGB in non-American regions), the guy just doesn't happen to be using any those to record the PS2 footage. And there was no mention of the framerate differences. I'm really interested if someone could provide them.
>>345268271
Hey Paper Mario and Ogre Battle 64 were pretty damn good, don't talk shit. The problem is that these are the only two N64 RPGs worth playing.
>>345264584
1080 Snowboarding
Banjo Kazooie
Banjo Tooie
BattleTanx
Bomberman Hero
Castlevania Legacy of Darkness
Cruis'n USA
Conker's Bad Fur Day
Diddy Kong Racing
Donkey Kong 64
Doom 64
Excitebike 64
F-Zero X
Goldeneye 007
Harvest Moon 64
Jet Force Gemini
Killer Instinct Gold
Kirby 64 - The Crystal Shards
Majora's Mask
Mario Kart 64
Mario Party
Mario Party 2
Mario Tennis
Mischief Makers
Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon
Neon Genesis Evangelion
Ocarina of Time
Paper Mario
Perfect Dark
Pokemon Snap
Pokemon Stadium 2
Road Rash 64
Sin & Punishment
Star Fox 64
Star Wars Rogue Squadron
Super Mario 64
Super Smash Bros
Turok
Wave Race 64
Yoshi's Story
>>345268315
Castlevania 64 was legit a better horror game than RE.
Ps1 had the tomb raider series too.
>>345268561
>>345268486
While good at the time, today those games received better ports on xbox and 3ds.
>>345268561
>>345268729
And most of the PS1's library is on PSP and PC.
The reason Saturn was not in every store was because the retarded sega CEO released for a few days in only 2 stores and everyone was mad and then refused to sell saturns
he basically killed Sega
>>345268561
You're right, it was a pretty horrific game.
>>345268561
YES LOOK HOW TERRIFYING THIS GAME I'M LITERALLY SHITTING MYSELF IN FEAR. Seriously just fuck off.
>>345268827
>PSP
L
O
L
name one game that was better on psp than ps1
>>345264529
Remember the fisheye lens efect when Spyro start to move? That was because all the process was used in the front graphics and not in the side ones. It was a elegant solution.
>>345269102
Final Fantasy Tactics: War of the Lions. Just get the slowdown fix patch and it's easily the definitive version of FFT. Also Tactics Ogre is a pretty great port though some prefer the original game.
>>345269102
Tactics Ogre
Parappa the Rapper
Final Fantasy Tactics
Star Ocean 2
>>345268694
>he fell for the "It's bad" meme!
The only reason it didn't get higher reviews is because the ability to choose a different avatar that actually plays uniquely made it too similar to a certain Zelda game that also came out that year, and because of the brand "Castlevania."
Magazines run on advertisement and there are only 12 issues a year. Edge, EGM, or whatever other dead mags from back then couldn't give Castlevania the property room that Nintendo's biggest game of the entire year needed, and surely Sony had already bought the other months. So they had to dock it points. You can't have two GOTY's and from the underdog console, while the "popular" one has shit games.
This is the sad truth. I'm sorry you had to learn it from me.
>>345269096
Not that guy and never played Cv64, but I really like this kind light-hearted exaggerated horror humor, is this the game for me?
>>345269274
>>345269373
Star Ocean 2 is NOT better on PSP.
>>345259658
GOAT system
Genesis/SNES come in a very close second
>>345258281
Underage detected. Go back to cod on your Xbone, son.
>>345269530
SNES kicks the shit out of the genesis and the PS1
>>345269608
>SNES
lol
>>345267746
Low poly is underrated, you can get some serious style out of it with the right textures.
>>345260836
The Saturn was the only way at the time to play SEGA arcade games at home.
Playing Daytona at home and getting gud at the tracks then BTFO of my friends at the arcade was amazing.
Of course, summerfags would know nothing about how amazing that gen was.
>>345269784
I don't even understand what the implication of this post is
are you upset because I didn't call it "super nintendo" or what
>>345269863
Considering that the Saturn got next to no games, I would say summerfags are right.
>>345262917
>Play Sypro
>Blown away by CD quality music and amazing graphics that still look great today
>Tragic accident
Fuck off. The below 18 faggots on this board really need to fuck off
>>345269978
The SNES is the most overrated console of all time. Nothing from it is actually worth a damn today.
>>345270327
>>345267989
>assortment of original racing games (Extreme-G 1 & 2, Snowboaring 1080, Snowboard Kids, Diddy Kong, Mario, Lego Racers, Hot Wheels, Road Rash 64, Vigilante 8; I don't think there was any setting of racer or automobile game N64 didn't have.)
fucking wipeout, ridge racer type 4 and gran motherfucking turismo, also road rash that didn't suck, driver and twisted metal
>horror games better than RE (Castlevanias, Nightmare Creatures, Hybrid Heaven)
silent fucking hill, parasite eve, dino crisis and resident evil, BY THE WAY, NIGGER Nightmare Nreatures was multiplat
>futuristic shooter games ahead of their time (WinBack, Sin & Punishment)
you don't even know what's good on N64, should've said goldeneye and perfect dark but you're a dumb bitch
>Killer RPGs (Paper Mario, Ogre Battle 64, Flying Dragon)
FF VII and a shitload of the best RPGs that gen which I am too lazy to list because there are so many
>Super Smash Bros. need I say more?
Tekken 3, you need to shut up. bitch
>and my favorite, seasonal stealings of PS1 and PC's best games (MML, RE2, Starcraft, Doom, Quake, Quake 2, HeXen)
blah, blah, blah
literally fuck you, you fucking fuck
To this day I think Shenmue 2 had better graphics than any PS2 game.
And the quality of dreamcast games were better but unfortunately it didn't have many.
>>345269608
Fuck you
All three are amazing consoles.
That being said there's no way in hell the SNES has any edge over the PS1 when most of it's best games were ported on the PS1
>>345270716
SNES absolutely is better than the PS1
all the PS1 ports of square games are terrible and have ridiculous load times
>>345269987
It had a lot of games, mostly arcade ports.
It was a great console to have for genres that didn't get many PS1 and N64 releases.
Also Daytona USA
>>345270702
Shenmue 2 looks like dogshit compared to Mizzurna Falls.
>>345270631
>Tekken 3
also Soul Edge
>>345270327
you're just a buffoon mate
>>345270815
Stop yourself
Load times are a perfectly good trade off for getting 3 amazing games on one disk and having better music.
>>345270850
if you are not a troll you should be banned
>>345270983
>Load times are a perfectly good trade off
nope
>>345270815
We got the definitive version of Tales of Phantasia though.
>square
>competent
They didn't even port it.
>If the Vita wasn't such a shit console we can play every single gen up to dreamcast on one comfy device.
Fuck Sony for gimping that thing so much. We could have had a PSP with better hardware
Good to see the console wars haven't gotten any childish since elementary school.
early 3D was a necessary part of game evolution, I admit most gen V games look shit now
>>345258574
Crash 1,2,3
>>345271072
They are.
I'm sorry your modern 2 second attention span can't handle hardware limitations
>>345271172
crash games are repetitive and boring
it was good in 1999 but today it has no use
>>345271414
>crash games are repetitive and boring
Literally kill yourself
>>345271228
nah
load times turn the most basic activities in a game into a chore, you find yourself dodging battles and not wanting to ever backtrack or change rooms because you just want to fucking play, not wait 15 seconds for the next area to load in
>>345271143
Just wait until it gets hacked bruv
Some on the scene are already saying that the Vita can run some PS2 games
>>345259658
>Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
on the saturn too
>Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver
also on the pc and dreamcast
>Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee and Abe's Exodus
on pc, on fucking GOG
>>345271454
I have never seen anyone who didn't play Crash as a kid play one and be impressed. Myself included. It's nostalgia.
>>345271454
Banjo > Crash
Mystical Ninja > Crash
Bad Fur Day > Crash
Yoshi Island 2 > Crash
DK 64> Crash
Jet Force Gemini> Crash
I can spend all day talking about better platformers than crash shitcoot
>>345270873
for sure
PSX just has too many good games
Bloody Roar
Rival Schools
Battle Arena Toshinden
Ehrgeiz
Tobal No1
Bushido Blade
DOA
and all the 2D Marvel and Capcom games that never appeared on N64
>>345271525
>3 games that got ported to other systems
>One of them is inferior to the PS1 version
>Somehow invalidates whole list
This is just getting pathetic now.
>>345271478
Nowadays sure, but everyone tolerated loading times back then as a necessary evil.
You're revealing how underage you are.
>>345271489
There's been 0 progress
Meanwhile the 3DS has been blown wide open but it's too weak for PS1
>>345271787
>but everyone tolerated loading times back then as a necessary evil
Sorry, I had a Nintendo 64 because my parents liked me and I had friends.
>>345271787
>This is just getting pathetic now.
i let him off on 90% of the list, holy fuck
ps1 is actually my favourite console OAT
Nice RPG game player anon!
>>345271897
>still mad to this day sony won
>>345258281
the n64 couldnt make 3 sided polys. the graphics of n64 games was worse than ps1 games. the only game that was good graphically speaking for its time on the n64 was the mario game
while you may be in shock to hear this when 3d games first came out they didnt have antialiasing, it wasnt even common on ps2,xbox,gamecube and dreamcast games though it was more common on xbox and game cube
>>345271741
Yes, lets compare different types of platformers
Of course, you wouldn't do the same with Spyro because you know that even the first one would BTFO any platformer on the N64
>>345259658
>Skullmonkeys
come on now
As a kid it was great visiting friends and bringing along memory cards.
>>345271897
Are you fucking kidding me?
Everyone had a PS1. There was always one weird ass kid that with divorced parents that had an N64 and we bullied the fuck out of him when he brought up his OOT and SM64 game (the only N64 games he had. They were 70+$ back then)
At the time I was happy, plahing PSX with friends, watching crappy 90's TV show, reading sci-fi, fapping to magazines!!
Now I'm just old and bitter and all alone and video games are awful and anyway I dont care.
>>345272013
it was not worse it was the same shit as on ps1
>everyone having a great time playing Pokemon Stadium, Smash Bros, Mario Kart, Goldeneye
>mfw THAT KID wants us to come to his house and play Crash Bandicoot Racing with his multitap
>>345272303
Spotted the west coast nigger.
East Coast had actual good taste in games
>>345272221
as a poor kid I could only afford one console but I had access to almost all PS1 games because my PS1 was modded
10 years later I bought a N64 and a Saturn and N64 and saturn are better than Ps1 in my opinion
>>345271525
But never on nintendo
N64 had no multiplats
if you only had that console that gen and it was the N64, you were fucked out of so many great games it's not even funny
>>345272221
>tfw sony won that generation despite all of us having massive amounts of pirated games
How did they do it?
>>345269847
Good low poly is all about good art direction.
It's the reason some PS1 games still hold up decently like MML2 or Silent Hill.
>>345272391
I'm from the east coast. Everybody had an N64. Only ghetto kids and really weird kids had a PS1.
>>345272406
Turok was on PC.
>>345272239
Same here
perhaps it's not bad we could live in africa and had no access to electricity
>>345272474
And yet sony still won.
You can make up garbage as much as you like, but retrospective knowledge speaks for itself.
Sony won.
>>345272013
>3 sided polys
What exactly do you mean by this?
And the N64 had some shitty blur aa that did a good, if blurry, job. Aliasing at the low resolutions those consoles used were unbearable.
>>345272474
What?
We had to hunt for people that had N64s to play the new zelda 64 that had just come out.
We lost interest in the system after that because it literally only had one game worth playing.
ITT: People that werent around to experience something try and 'get it' through the eyes of a modern consumer.
>>345272653
I'm sorry you lived in the ghetto, anon.
>>345272506
Glover was on PC and PS1. That Shadowman game was on both too as well as Dreamcast.
>nintendrones are so cucked by the only good game being released for them in years being a 3rd party phone game
>have to resort to WE WAZ KANGZ level nostalgic revision
Is there any fanbase more fucked in the ass yet asking for more?
>>345272474
No one had the n64 where I lived. Literal trash.
>>345272746
if your parents actually had money and loved you, you would've had all three consoles, and not just the shittiest one in the N64
>>345272983
If your parents bought you a Sega Saturn, they didn't love you.
>tfw PC, PS1 and gameboy kid.
Anyone else?
>>345272840
Nintendo fans are super hostile, insecure, and bash everything else because that's all they have even as Nintendo let's them down continually.
There is no worst off fanbase, and Iwould never trust one with gaming advice because they often have awful taste
>>345273130
>_______ fans are super hostile, insecure, and bash everything else because that's all they have even as _______ let's them down continually.
>There is no worst off fanbase, and Iwould never trust one with gaming advice because they often have awful taste
>>345273114
I had an N64 but I played PS1 games at various places. I vaguely remember my uncle or someone having a few PC games I'd play a bit too like Redneck Rampage or another Doom-like game, might have been Hexen. Also You Don't Know Jack and some hunting game. Never really got into PC much until the later 00s when I started playing TF2 and didn't get my own PC for games until around 2010.
>>345273130
KOJIMA fans are super hostile, insecure, and bash everything else because that's all they have even as Kojima let's them down continually.
There is no worst off fanbase, and Iwould never trust one with gaming advice because they often have awful taste
>>345272840
As an actual Egyptian the WE WAZ KANGZ is fucking hilarious
>>345273114
Same as, the PC was my parents and the Playstation was my elder brothers but they let me play it if I was careful.
Fuck I had nightmares till I was 12 because I watched them playing the first three resident evils, they started playing the first one when I was 3.
>>345273114
Same, but our PC was only good enough to run DOS until 2001.
Missed out on a lot of cool windows 9x games but at least I got Doom
>>345273540
>actual egyptian
Are you positive? Most of egypts current pop descend from Arabic invaders/migrants.
>>345273746
Yep. My Phenotype checks out all the facial feature, feet, nose, ears etc.
Egyptians suck though and I never asked for this
