http://sonicthehedgehog.tumblr.com/post/147454432288/sonic-irl
>#Would totally play it #One week to go #You've mostly all been super patient #but the day is soon upon us #then... ALL WILL BE REVEALED #we hope you read that with thunderbolts and organs playing #but seriously--we're so excited to share with you what's to come #next week alone is going to be a fun one #we'll be announcing where you can watch the livestream of the party #and a few other treats and goodies
>twitter memes are ok only when I say so!
I hate this faggot.
sonic! he can really meme!!
>>345240571
That's the only thing he can do.
>>345240565
this meme will be irrelevant when sonic adventure 3 comes out and is really good
>b-but muh replies
>>345241870
>sonic adventure 3
Yeah, look how Sonic 06 turned out good by following the Adventures formula.
>anniversary game will (at best) likely be another boost2win run-forward casualfest with Shadow/full cast shoved in but only Sanic playable, but now with another gimmick thrown on
>somehow I still care to know what it'll be
Just how.
>>345241870
I would love it to be a fully-fledged new Adventure title that's actually good, but I have a feeling it can only really be one or the other.
>>345242173
Well the boost 2 win games have been the only consistent quality Sonic games in the last decade and are highly replayable. I'd favorite over another Adventure game since those aged like milk.
I'd like to point out two of the things Wentos The Traveling Salesman and Brenda from World Treasure Magazine have come true:
1. The game wont be launching until 2017
2. There would be some kind of Sonic v Eggman event during the anniversary (last month's twitter shenanigans)
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/336833958/
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/337725671/
These threads have the rest of their leaks if you think they're legit. The main things they reveal is;
1. Sonic and Eggman are the playable characters
2. Gameplay for Sonic is a hybrid between Adventure and the parkour of Lost World
3. Eggman's is similar to SA2 but refined
4. Wisps are back and even Eggman can use them (they upgrade his Walker ammo)
5. The game was actually scheduled for 2015 but has been delayed multiple times for polish
>>345242756
>4. Wisps are back
fuck please god no
>>345242651
I'll at least agree with that. And Generations has its mods to fuck around with (I beat most of Gens as Blaze).
Just still saddened that, after Sonic 4, they'll forever miss the opportunity of old Sanic's pinball-physics/momentum realized in 3D.
>>345242148
Sonic 06 failed because they spent practically the entire development budget on the opening cutscene. Which is why it is the only polished thing in the game. You can practically count the stitches in the seams where they spliced together what few assets and shit they had finished
>>345241870
>when sonic adventure 3 comes out
It did come out Anon. It's called Sonic 06
>>345242989
Oh shut the fuck up. Wisps are cute and clever power ups.
>>345243464
t. Wisps
I see through your disguise
>>345240450
It better be an actually good AAA game
and not some mobile crap
>>345242756
>Wisps are back
fucking trash, they cant listen or learn from their past mistakes
>>345243680
Very funny meme. Wisps brought a new bunch of fresh mechanics in the series and let's not forget we are an important and fundamental part of the lore now.
>>345243935
>Sonic lore
They would be best off ignoring everything from the past 10 years
and you dont need faggot wisp characters to have wisp mechanics
Wisps can suck my dick. We used to get different shields and cool shit in the actual levels (like the spinning tops in Marble Garden or pulleys in Mushroom Hill) to mix up the gameplay. The wisps just aren't fun to use
>>345244332
They're fun as fuck, nigger. You don't even have to use them if you don't want to usually.
>>345244412
Shields are better.
>>345244124
>>345244332
Delet this
>>345243464
No, they're not. They're hamfisted, unfitting of the main themes of Sonic along with alternate dimension shit, etc.
>>345244332
Most of the wisps in Colors really added to the game, with some of them adding to traversal in ways shields cannot.
The wisps in Lost World all suck though. If they bring them back for the next Sonic, I hope they think long and hard enough what is fun and what isn't. No stupid music note wisps.
>>345244683
Alternate dimensions have always existed in the series though (Special stages, bonus stages and even the Flickies come from an alternate dimension through the giant rings in Sonic 3D.
>>345240450
Since Sonic Team has a really hard time making a game with just one character, they should make the token second playable character Shadow.
Sonic's levels have wisps and all that, while Shadow's levels play more like Unleashed Daytime stages but with an occasional vehicle section that doesn't overstay its welcome.
Dont have any hope
You will just be setting yourself up for disappointment
>>345243935
>we
>>345244975
>Wisps
>vehicle section in sonic
I'm really glad you are not a game designer because you are retarded
>i'm about as old as sonic
Fuck. I'm probably the oldest one in this thread right now seeing as how many children browse /v/.
>>345245106
I don't mean driving tanks and shit. I consider the snowboard in City Escape a vehicle section. Stuff like that.
>>345244930
Not confirmed. In fact, that's unlikely, considering the access method in Sonic Advance 3.
Anyway, if that was the extent of alternate dimensions in Sonic, that would have been fine. Instead we get storybook bunk, '06, Rush, just awful trash that overcomplicated the series and added needless drama.
They should just make a full version of that game they released on April 1st and have that be the end of it. That or just make Sonic bad on purpose. IF you can't make a good game, then just make the appeal of the games how bad/meme-filled they are. Kind of like Goat Simulator
>>345245440
But if they want to make a serious game for some reason, then the only (ONLY) characters should be Sonic and Eggman. Everyone else is unecessary
>>345242756
>Adventure and the parkour of Lost World
oh god why
>>345244930
>>345245310
Miracle Planet also disappears into another dimension each month.
Magical/trippy/weird shit like this has been in the series since the beginning.
They should make a mobile game where you have to catch sonic characters
![latest[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/sDXCm7t.jpg "latest[1].jpg")
>>345245440
Id like a sonic game based around the adventures cartoon and youtube poops
Or at least a joke level in a new game
Calling it now. It's gonna be a 2.5d home console sonic game. It will release for xbone, ps4, pc, and nx, with a portable version by dimps for 3ds.
>>345245561
tails knuckles and classic amy are fine
>>345245686
>Or at least a joke level in a new game
Fuck that, make the whole game a joke. Take the idea that Sonic's a joke and run with it. MAke it terrible and then turn around and say it's "ironic". It's the only thing to do with Sonic now since they can't make an actual good game
>>345245845
Fine, I guess they can be background cameos or something.
>>345245616
The parkour was the one good part of Lost World, faggot. LW's problem was that the levels were shit and gimmicky and never utilized it properly.
>>345245616
Nigger, the parkour was pretty much the only good thing of Lost Worlds, ignoring the music.
What ruined it was the retarded level design. In fact, in an open world setting (the Zelda DLC), Lost Worlds played very good.
>>345240565
>BTFO
kek, at least Sanic doesn't beg for shekels to fund their trash
I want the REAL sequel to S3&K. 4 is a disgrace to be called a continuation. I would love for it to have the art style to that new comic series that I believe is called "Mega Drive"
>>345246158
SEGA is so focused on Pachinkos they don't need to beg for money. And they are burning and wasting it pretty efficently.
>>345246503
If Sega makes most of its money on Pachinko, then they should stop making Sonic games. Stop beating the skeleton of the horse that died 20 years ago
>>345245561
Nah, minimalism is as boring as overstuffed shoehorns are annoying.
Give us Sanic, Tails, Knux, Blaze, Eggman and a maybe a couple new faces, good or evil. Each with a gameplay difference that matters, but keeps the fast platforming a focus.
Also on the topic of gameplay, relegate Boost to just a hard-to-find powerup whilst lesser ones (elemental shields, shoes, etc) and stage-based objects and obstacles play a bigger role. Under-power homing attacks so they aren't easy instant-kills either.
>>345246608
I'm glad you don't work for Sega because your ideas are awful. Just get Taxman to make a new 2D game in the style of 2 or 3&K and you're set. None of this boost2win bullshit
>>345246608
>Blaze
>Over way more important characters
T. Blazefag
>>345240450
they've dropped so many goddamn hints, i just want them to come out and fucking say it already.
>>345246738
>because your ideas are awful
Care to elaborate?
>None of this boost2win bullshit
I agree it's ruined Sanic. That's why, if it returns, it should be a rare hard-to-find powerup and not a major focus.
>>345246768
Of all the Sanic girls, she's just the least dumb IMO. I'd take her over Amy or an awkward-to-look-at Rouge.
>>345246608
Why do you want all those stupid fucking characters and even more stupid fucking characters
People like you sicken me
>>345247080
>Care to elaborate?
Sure
>Other playable characters
>Boost2win
>New characters ever
>Homing attack
>3D
You're the cancer that killed the franchise. Take Sonic back to its roots and do it RIGHT this time. No shitty friends, no 3D, no voice acting, no story. Just Sonic running through levels and bouncing on robots. What's so hard about that?
>>345247080
>awkward-to-look-at Rouge
I'm glad I'll never be a faggot like you.
>>345242173
Honestly I get the feeling it's gonna be a new 2D classic Sonic game, with visuals similar to generations. Generations Classic Sonic was clearly intended to be a one off deal, but he got a very positive reception. probably more than Sega anticipated. People have been clammoring for a Classic sonic game similar to Generations Classic sonic ever since that came out. And so far, for the anniversary, theyve been focusing pretty heavily on Classic Sonic. He's the 25th anniversary logo, and there's that Archie Mega Drive Comic too.
>tfw the game is actually Sonic Mega Drive, and follows the comic
I mean they clearly have the chops to come up with some nice stage themes and names.
All they need to do is brush up the physics on Classic Sonic's generation gameplay and it could be GOAT
>>345247415
Good. They should abandon Modern Sonic and everything about it and stick to Sonic and Robotnik only. Maybe Tails, Knuckles, and Amy show up once in a while and have Metal for a boss fight, but that's it. No story outside of "Eggman is doing something, go stop him", no voice acting, none of that shit. Simple, effective, and just like the classics
>>345247415
I want to see them finally do a good 3D sonic
>>345247884
They can't. Ever. They've tried for over 10 years and haven't succeeded. Just stick to 2d
>>345247094
If I wanted stupid characters too, I'd ask for Shadow, Silver, Cream, Omochao, Chip, Werehog Sanic, etc. I just want a small variety that is neither boring nor Heroes/06-tier scattered.
>>345247249
>boost2win
>homing
Again, I'd prefer to have actual pinball momentum as the focus, boost/homing shit doesn't have to return at all. But if it does, then to just meet that criteria I said. I agree making them the primary focus killed the series' challenge more than Adventure did.
>new character ever
If they aren't cringe, constantly shoved into every ensuing game or a brake on gameplay, then yeah, what's exactly wrong with that?
>3D
If previous gameplay statements can be met, then yes, I'll take it over a 2D screen's limitation on visibility that made 2D Genesis Sonic gameplay more fun. 3D doesn't always mean Adventure/Boost2Win
>>345247303
She's good for a fap, but barely fits Sonic's style.
>>345247415
That is some sweet looking art
>>345244697
They add to the game in the same way going into a Wario Ware minigame every ten seconds would add to Tetris. They replace the core gameplay with some irrelevant shit that plays completely different. The shields in Sonic 3 enhanced your core moves and did not interfere with anything else. The wisps replace your core moves and change the gameplay to something limited, janky and gimmicky for a brief time.
>>345248051
*on the visibility of everything
>>345247415
>All they need to do is brush up the physics on Classic Sonic's generation gameplay and it could be GOAT
They need good level design too. Good physics didn't save Sonic Adventure. If you don't have the right combination of slopes, the right enemy placements, etc. then the good physics are wasted.
>>345248051
>If they aren't cringe, constantly shoved into every ensuing game or a brake on gameplay, then yeah, what's exactly wrong with that?
They're unneeded. You don't need anyone outside of the classic cast. Period.
>Again, I'd prefer to have actual pinball momentum as the focus, boost/homing shit doesn't have to return at all. But if it does, then to just meet that criteria I said. I agree making them the primary focus killed the series' challenge more than Adventure did.
Then keep the pinball physics and remove boost entirely. Shouldn't even be in there as a powerup, nor should the homing attack. Also they can't make it work in 3D, they've tried and failed. Stick to 2D, it's the only place Sonic can be good
>>345247973
Its possible, they just keep being stupid
>>345247580
If it works for Mickey, I dont see why going back to the roots couldn't work for Sonic.
>>345244460
>Shields
>Worth a shit in a 3D Sonic game
>>345248295
Exactly.
>>345248276
Sega is inherently retarded. I barely trust them to make a 2D game, but it can't be as fucked as a 3D game would be
>>345248268
>They're unneeded. You don't need anyone outside of the classic cast. Period.
Mario doesn't need anything but the Koopalings as bosses constantly. Doesn't mean it doesn't get old.
>>345247415
I don't know if it'd be possible in a 2D game, but I want the comfy hub worlds from the 360/PS3 version of Sonic Unleashed to return.
>>345248450
I kind of want them to limit it to the classic cast for just a game or three more, if only so characters like Knuckles can get some focus.
>>345247580
>Simple, effective, and just like the classics
You can have simple and effective with more characters and a bigger story.
3K had no voice acting, and all of the plot points were able to be conveyed silently, through character interaction. The variety of characters all played so similarly that they were simply variations of the same core gameplay, that added replay value to each level.
I think the modern boost stuff is worth holding onto, at least for something like Special Stages, where cheap deaths and linear level design are more welcome.
>>345248295
I want to fuck Minnie
>>345240450
the sonic franchise was never good
>>345248450
>Mario doesn't need anything but the Koopalings as bosses constantly. Doesn't mean it doesn't get old.
Mario also doesn't have 20,000 shitty friends added every game like Sonic
>>345248629
>You can have simple and effective with more characters and a bigger story.
No you can't. Not with Sonic. Keep it simple. Simple is good for Sonic. If the games want to get ambituous, a 3&K esque story should be the upper limit as to how much story there should be. Boost should be abandoned, as should everything about Modern Sonic
>>345248268
>You don't need anyone outside of the classic cast. Period.
Sounds awfully boring.
>Also they can't make it work in 3D, they've tried and failed.
I don't ever recall that. Adventure's focus (in Sonic's campaign) shifted away from that and focused mostly on just running and some barely-working setpieces because it was easier. Everything after that followed in some manner.
Doesn't mean it can't be done, SEGA just doesn't care to when lesser-effort sells just as good.
>>345248827
>Sounds awfully boring.
>He likes all the shitty donutsteels from Modern Sonic
To the trash you go
>>345248740
Neogaf, pls, kill yourself
>>345248791
>Mario also doesn't have 20,00 shitty friends
>What is TTYD
>>345247249
So you want more Sonic Advance 1. That's literally all you had to say.
>>345248586
That'd be fine for the next game or so. After that, at least keep them the primary characters but with some new additions to liven things up, but don't reuse them as primaries every damn game.
>>345248924
Only a few, most like Shadow and co. were shit. I'd prefer a few new faces done right and subtly.
>>345242756
>Eggman's is similar to SA2 but refined
Mechs suck in general, so it's probably gonna be another werehog situation.
>>345249017
That's an RPG, not a platformer, and TTYD was actually a good fucking game
>>345249104
Yes, that's actually perfect. I don't know why they didn't just keep the rest of the games like that
>>345248791
>No you can't. Not with Sonic.
Nigga you can't say "you can't do X" and then agree with my example of how to do X.
I agree that simple is good for Sonic, and 3K was simple. Simple enough, at least. A reasonably deep story and multiple playable characters with unique abilities, but it didn't go overboard at all.
But I agree, 3K's pretty much as ambitious as story should be. More of that would be perfect.
I'm not seeing why modern Sonic's gameplay in't salvageable for Special Stage stuff.
>>345249017
thats not a mainline game and its an rpg so of course it has more focus on story and characters
A platforming game doesn't need a bunch of fags
>>345244332
This.
Wisps suck.
>>345249104
I wouldn't mind that either. I liked Advance a lot.
>>345240565
>Hasn't had a good game in five years
Try fucking twenty dude.
>>345249813
>twenty
Nice meme opinion, faggot.
>>345249813
>>345245561
Cancerous shit opinion by someone who has never played a sonic game in their life.
Hey haven't had any other playable characters than Sonic in almost ten years. TEN. YEARS.
>>345249930
>>345250051
Sorry I don't like the markedly shit 3D Sonic the Hedgehog offerings that Sega's made in the past two decades. Rush and Generation's classic levels were okay, and that's about it. Adventure, Heroes, Shadow, Unleashed, they're all fucking shit that take control away from you at every opportunity/boost dash through enemies to win
>>345249813
There's at least Advance.
Otherwise yep.
>>345246738
>muh Genesis
They've been making Genesis throwback games for years. The vast majority of fans nowadays grew up with the Adventure series.
>>345250180
>Hey haven't had any other playable characters than Sonic in almost ten years. TEN. YEARS.
That's a good thing you dipshit. It allows them to focus on nailing Sonic. If only they knew what the fuck to actually DO
>>345250354
They should keep making throwbacks to when Sonic was good then. Maybe after doing it enough they'll make something a bit more like the good ones
>>345249813
Epin meme, Nintencuck.
>>345247415
>implying sega remembers shit about their own games' physics
I have no faith. There's a fucking guide that spells out sonic's physics on sonic retro and sega hasn't been able to pull it off since...uh....honestly the first Sonic Advance was the last game to remotely resemble what made the genesis games.
I have 0 faith
>>345250227
>Adventure
>Heroes
>take control away from you at every opportunity/boost dash through enemies to win
So you're just one of those faggots who spouts /v/'s opinions without actually playing the games so that you'll fit in.
Fuck off.
>>345250481
Do you realize there have been more Sonic games available on Nintendo consoles than on SEGA ones, right
>>345250602
>/v/'s opinions
>Not "everybody but Sonic fan's" opinions
ftfy. Bet you think loser on the Sonic Twitter memeing is funny too.
>>345250479
No, it isn't. You faggots don't even buy Sonic games yet you constantly parrot the same uneducated opinions you have for over a decade.
>>345250735
>ftfy
You really didn't, you dumb nigger.
Maybe you should try actually playing the games instead of slapping parroting complaints you've heard on /v/ that don't even apply to 80% of the games you're bitching about.
>>345250684
And Nintendrones are still salty about the Genesis era
>>345250827
>everyone who insists that sega should re-learn how to do Sonic adequately before moving on to include all these other faggots are simply parroting /v/ memes
Wow your smart
>>345250827
I've played all the fucking garbage games Sonic's made since hte jump to 3D
Get Sega's cock out of your ass and stop liking the shitty friends Sonic's had since then. All you need is the Classic cast AT MOST and even then they should be background cameos and nothing more. The only way to save Sonic is to make something exactly like the classics, and don't give me that bullshit about Sonic 4. They didn't even fucking TRY. Get someone who actually knows how the Genesis games played and get them on it
>>345240565
>sonic "congratulates" mighty n°9's launch for being better than nothing at all, subtly poking fun at himself
>NAH SANIK U NO GUD GAME (completely missing the joke)
>100 replies
>>345250354
>throwbacks
Only in-name. They never got the actual correct physics or stage-design after Advance 1, instead just showing "hey rook, 2D and Green Hill, you rike it?".
>>345250962
>Maybe you should try actually playing the games
No. Not until they don't suck. Not until Sega learns its lesson.
And don't think for a second that stance prohibits us from evaluating those titles anyway. We know shit when we see it.
>>345251051
The Sonic twitter guy thinks he's funny but he isn't. He is just an unironic memespouter.
As long as Rouge is in it
>yfw they will never make a fullblown datesim of the sonic girls
>>345250735
Oh look, it's one more faggot riding on youtuber dick by parroting their epin maymays
>>345251210
To be fair, what else is the Social media for Sonci the fucking Hedgehog supposed to do? Talk about the new game that doesn't exist? Sonic's only good for memes nowadays, so might as well make sure of that
>>345251041
>everyone who spouts shit memes without taking reality into account is parroting /v/ memes
yes I agree
>>345251367
>implying 3D sonic games are good
This is the true meme.
>>345251046
>I've played all the fucking garbage games Sonic's made since hte jump to 3D
No you haven't.
>All you need is the Classic cast AT MOST and even then they should be background cameos and nothing more.
>The only way to save Sonic is to make something exactly like the classics
They've been doing that for ten years you clueless fuckboi faggot
>>345251246
You can just play a fangame for that.
There is literally nothing wrong with Generations or Colours.
>>345250227
>they take control away from you
How is this a problem? Like, have you actually played Adventure? The game where you can run into a big loop-de-loop holding forwards and Sonic can fucking run over the edge and fall out because of the camera transition? Go back and play those Classic levels again, the game is even less controllable than Unleashed.
>>345250509
>muh 3D physics
2D Sonic physics with their focus on momentum don't work anywhere near as well in 3D. For how much people repeat this meme they don't seem to notice how most good 3D platformers do nothing like it. Shit, just look at the difference between the 2D and 3D Mario games and tell me he moves the same in both.
>>345251210
Sonic was always meant to be the "cool" western figure you can always look up to. Nowadays, memes are cool, so it's kinda IC. At least he's done his homework.
>>345251194
>And don't think for a second that stance prohibits us from evaluating those titles anyway.
You're a fucking joke.
>>345250962
I have played them. Played Sonic Adventure at a friend's house, played and looked like shit, even when it was originally released. Played Sonic Adventure 2, cool first level, shit throughout (and don't even fucking TRY to tell me that looking for randomly placed emeralds, shitty mech auto aim, and awful feeling platforming makes SA2 good in any way), Heroes was the platforming that was slightly less shit, Shadow the Hedgehog crashed my Gamecube multiple times, Unleashed was okay up until Werehog where I dropped it, Rush was good mostly because of the soundtrack but also because it was a mix of 2D and 3D boss stages that didn't control like dogshit. Generations was fun mostly because they realized that what everybody wanted this whole time was classic 2D Sonic with no 3D garbage platforming, so you can platform as Classic Sonic and hold X as dumpster fire Sonic.
>>345251194
>Not until Sega learns its lesson
There's nothing TO learn
>>345251523
>No you haven't.
Nice projection
>They've been doing that for ten years you clueless fuckboi faggot
They sure as fuck haven't been making games that play like the classic for the past 10 years. Generations's Classic physics were complete fucking ass, Sonic 4 is an abomination, and everything else ranges from mediocre at best to absolute fucking dogshit. They actually need to understand how to make Sonic himself work, and they haven't done that yet. So until they get that down, no shitty friends
>>345251246
If you're the standard for who wants Rouge back, I'm glad she's out.
Just stick to her porn, it's better than what SEGA would ever allow.
>>345251535
>nothing wrong with Generations or Colors
>ignoring that you still have to play as a million fluorescent furries
>ignoring that they aren't 2d
>ignoring that they have cutscenes
>ignoring that they have shitty stories shoehorned in
Fuck you
>>345251663
Now tell me how Adventure, Heroes and Shadow are "boost dash to win"
>>345251808
>blatant lying
>there are a number of 2D segments
>hi ACfag
>hi ACfag
>>345251808
>>ignoring that you still have to play as a million fluorescent furries
To be fair you only had to play as Sonic, but I agree that the other characters shouldn't be there at all. It's SONIC Generations, not OCDonutsteel Generations
>>345251663
>muh classic sonic
I genuinely hate you nostalgiafags
>>345251861
S-S-Spindash to win...?
>>345251808
Fucking retard, all you're doing is explaining how you haven't played them.
>>345251535
I don't know about anyone else in this thread but I didn't say anything about and honestly can't care anymore about getting Sonic right in 3D. I'm not sure how it would work, but nothing they've done so far is it.
Adventure was close, obvious broken shit aside. If Emerald Coast and Lost World and Speed Highway didn't have a shit camera and weirdly floaty physics, it would probably have been fine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxXycBv3Rlk
Sonic Generations was supposed to be this except they somehow managed to fuck up the only thing they needed to focus on.
Also fuck the trend that sonic can't keep the speed a jump dash gives him, what a fucking tease.
>>345251808
>you still have to play as a million fluorescent furries
>Sonic is the only playable character in both of those games
>This somehow equates to "a million fluorescent furries"
Go fuck yourself.
>i am in a thread with people who actually played Unleashed
mfw
>>345251643
Oh? I can still recall the very first moment I read the word, "werehog." That was the same moment I abandoned all hope for Unleashed.
This is an extreme example proving my point because in this particular case I just so happened to correctly determine the game would be shit before I knew virtually anything else about it other than werewolf faggotry. Typically though it is very easy to watch gameplay footage and form an accurate opinion, at least for me it is.
In the end though, I didn't play Unleashed yet I know that it sucks. Prove me wrong.
>>345251773
>never going to play a sonic game
>knows nothing about sonic games
>still willing to smear shut everywhere because muh Genesis gaems
>>345240450
Please OP, use this image. My daddy who works for Sonic Team told me this, but don't tell him I did or he will be contributing to the Japanese suicide rate.
>>345251921
>Sonic GENERATIONS
>shouldn't have anything to do with the generations of Sonic
>>345252130
I played Unleashed. It's garbage. Shitty beat em up gameplay for 1 half, shitty "Press X to Win" gameplay for the other
>>345252172
>He disagrees with me so that means he's never played a Sonic game
Modern Sonicfag please, your games are absolute trash. I bought Sonic 4 on release day hoping it'd be at least decent, and holy fuck it was a steaming pile of shit.
>>345252280
It should only have Sonic and Robotnik, maybe Tails. But the other characters didn't need to be there. Fuck, in all honesty it should've only had Classic levels because the modern games aren't worth celebrating
>>345251808
>typical "muh Genesis games" faggot
Further proof that the fags that whine about Sonic don't even play the games.
>>345252250
>run around XCX as Sonic in a freeroam
If the world was shaped like sonic levels and sonic himself didn't handle like shit, I'd probably find a way to enjoy it. Fuck all that other noise though.
>>345252384
Nah.
>>345251861
Nah, those are the games created before Sega realized that 3D Sonic platforming was garbage. Instead they went with "Platforming for ten seconds, then grinding on rails/going through loops and unskippable animations for half the level"
>>345252384
Don't forget the framedrops and random 8-button QTEs
>>345252690
Then don't describe them as that, you backpedaling retard.
>>345252719
Exactly. Honestly, Sega should just give up on Sonic at this point. I've been pushing for a Classic game this thread, but I've realized that they'll likely fuck that up, so let it die instead and focus on the long dead franchises from the Genesis. At least some of those haven't squandered all their potential
>>345252042
Oh, in that case there's not really much to say. At least classic mode wasn't as bad as Sonic 4. Generations at least has the excuse of being built on top of the modern framework and Havok, which probably stops them from just putting in the same raw values.
Sonic Adventure HD collection that are seamlessly melded together into one game with every character playable from both as well as the addition of other characters from later games.
>>345252690
>makes shit up
>gets called out
>has to backpedal and find something else to whine about
>>345253106
That would rule. I'd buy a modern console for that (though it'd probably be on PC too)
>>345252851
You know what really breaks my heart: all the halfway decent sonic romhacks and fangames that do manage to somewhat get the physics right seem to know absolutely fuckall about level design. That really popular one that I can't remember the name of was a mess.
All I've got is Sonic 3 Complete.
>>345252808
Take control away at every opportunity/boost dash through enemies to win don't both have to be true, and they're not mutually exclusive either. Sonic games can have one or the other (SA2 takes control away through rails, cutscenes and other bullshit, Unleashed's regular level's platforming revolves entirely around holding down the X button)
Some basic reading comprehension would be great my dude.
>>345253295
Was it Megamix? Also Sonic Robo Blast 2 is pretty comfy and fun.
>>345252719
oh I remembered the third thing I was gonna say
fucking making Boost and Homing Attack the same fucking button.
What even
>>345253347
>Some basic reading comprehension would be great my dude.
More like you should stop acting like a complete retard.
>>345253114
>Making up opinions about generally mediocre/horribly reviewed video games
Whatever you say bro. Enjoy Sonic Boom Fire and Ice!
>>345253457
Yep that was it.
Isn't robo blast an arena shooter? I think I tried it once.
>>345253605
>These games are bad for a variety of reasons
>WELL THESE GAMES ARE BAD BUT THEY'RE NOT BAD FOR BOTH REASONS YOU LISTED SO FUCK YOU
>Games can have different mechanics and still be bad
>YEAH WHATEVER YOU BACKPEDALING FAGGOT
>>345252130
Unleashed has the dubious honor of having some real shit in it, but not being completely shit.
>>345253295
It's not like it's hard for a 2D fangame to have the right physics when anything designed for Sonic will follow the guide or the games to the letter.
>>345253609
No it's like if you took a classic Sonic game, left the graphics entirely the same, but made it 3D. Sounds like shit on paper, but I enjoyed it (aside from the bosses)
>>345253787
yet somehow SEGA themselves haven't managed in over 15 years. Watching Dimps release sonic games after advance was like watching someone slowly develop dementia
>>345253773
>he has to greentext in all caps to make himself seem smarter than the person he's arguing with over sonic the hedgehog
>>345253935
I gotta retry it, it's been a long while.
>>345254085
>he didn't play Rush or Rush Adventure
>>345253773
>Resorting to this
Really? I guess I shouldn't have expected an actual argument out of someone like you.
>>345254230
>Boost2win shit
>Good
>>345253773
oh look, another muh Genesis faggot
>>345253773
>this guy
>>345254230
I played both. I meant that comparing Dimps games to the Genesis games, the first Advance was great, and then it just turned more and more into a right-to-win fest, with rush literally inventing boost-to-win.
That said, I didn't dislike them them for not being clones of the genesis games.
>>345254297
>>345254519
>hold boost
>run into a wall/spike/enemy/death pit
>waahh this is supposed to be boost2win why isn't it letting me boost2win
You're no different from the "classic Sonic was never good" shitters who think distilling a game down to its most recognizable feature is enough to dismiss it.
>>345254247
>This guy's making me look like a fool for not understanding that multiple games in a series can be bad for different reasons
>Instead of giving my own opinions on the games, I'll just argue semantics poorly and bow out like a non-confrontational pencil-neck
>>345254730
Boost goes against what Sonic was about: being good enough at the game to gain speed. Having a button that gives you speed automatically that also kills enemies is disgusting, and unlike the Spindash, you can just spam boost. At least with Spindash you have to stop first and then start another one.
>>345254730
I mean, obviously you got gud and jumped -over- spikes/death pits, but enemies you just blasted through.
And my entire thought chain this whole thread is "SEGA can't figure out something they themselves did 20 years ago. Look, a third party dev got really close once, but everything they made after that just got further and further away"
I'm not saying it's bad, just that SEGA can't ever into physics, and even getting it by practically dumb luck they lose it again.
Therefore 0 faith in new announcement. Fangames can get the physics but suck otherwise because amateurs can't into level design.
>>345254898
This still isn't an argument, you dumb nigger.
You tried claiming that they were bad the same reasons, got called out for it and now you're just trying to push it all onto somebody else.
Just fuck off.
>>345254927
You still need to be good enough to keep your speed instead of hitting a wall or something else, especially in Rush and Colors where it's actually very easily to simply run out of boost if you're not paying attention.
>Been replaying SA2B this week
>Still the best Sonic game by far
>>345254974
Hell the 3D games are the same shit. Adventure was on a right track (too many characters asid) yet instead of each game polishing the idea, each game got worse. Adventure 2 was loaded with literal rails and automatic setpieces, Heroes was worse, Shadow was worse, come to Colors and you can't jump dash anymore without just dropping, come to Lost World and you can't even homing attack without it being stupid shit.
Sonic Team's like the champ of 'This is cool? You're never seeing it again."
>>345255097
I never claimed that all modern Sonic games were bad for both reasons listed; if I wanted to say that I would have used a comma instead of a slash, which connotates an either/or/both scenario. Please stop going for the semantics angle, you're totally wrong and it makes you look like a moron.
>>345255254
It's still a shit gameplay style though.
>>345255265
Nice nostalgia goggles
>>345243419
Everything that happened regarding sonic 06's messy development is available online and can be found with a simple search yet somehow you spout this and are completely wrong. Even if you were making it up the truth (change in CEO, splitting the team, not realizing the Ps3 was so different, etc) is an easier conclusion to come to and sounds better.
It just really stood out how stupid that was
Why can't Sonic fans just get along. We just wanna see a blue hedgehog go fast, man. Can't we all agree on that
Post yfw
>They announce Sonic CD 2
>>345252250
>spin dash
will they ever learn
>>345255662
Sonics eyelids are supposed to be blue.
The fuck is this shit?
Sega really lets this shit pass?
>>345255812
>Implying Sega really cares about Sonic
They know that no matter what, retards will keep buying these games. No game since 3&K has had any effort put into it
>>345255812
BLUE EYELIDS!?
DONT
>>345254927
>what Sonic was about: being good enough at the game to gain speed
Modern Sonic games are about being good enough at the game to keep your speed. In Unleashed you'd get absolutely ruined if you boosted into a new section and didn't react lightning fast, and in Colours boost was something you didn't have all the time and could easily run out of.
Meanwhile in the MD titles spindashing was instant and if you jumped right after doing one you could fly around with impunity. Might as well say everything that isn't Sonic 1 and CD is shit.
>Deviantart
>Tons of new fanart for you to see
Dear lordie the Sonic Twitter/Tumblr? dude is fucking great.
>>345256048
>Modern Sonic games are about being good enough at the game to keep your speed
So they're antithetical to what Sonic's supposed to be and aren't even consistent in that design policy since you can just keep mashing boost? And that's why they're shit?
Good to know
>>345255683
>>345256201
So you ARE saying everything after Sonic 1 and CD is shit.
>>345255662
This thread/these autists are moving/arguing 2fast for me. I step away for 10 minutes to do something else and 70 posts go by.
>>345256432
No. Like I said before, at least the spindash forced you to stop before using it again.
>>345255683
It wouldn't be called Sonic CD 2. I will be called Sonic download. There's also anti piracy measures to the game, which also renames the game to Sonic Crack.
The fact that they need to use a logo and stance akin to the original games speaks volumes. I wonder what Sonic and his diverse cast of furry friends will get in trouble over this time in their slow paced adventure as you're forced to play as not-Sonic for 90% of the game!
Sonic was never good and anyone who thinks otherwise is objectively wrong
>>345256609
For a fraction of a second.
>>345256995
Still more than Boost2win shit
>>345256876
>Sonic was never good and anyone who thinks otherwise is objectively wrong
The games up until Sonic 3/Knuckles were fucking great.
Never been able to get into the others though.
Sonic CD is on my GOAT platformers though, seriously.
The people that don't play the games and are just here for the contrarian opinion meme spouting like Egoraptor is their idol are the worst parts of not just this thread, but all of /v/.
the one anon was right back in the day. If the whole board acts like idiots, it would just attract more idiots that feel welcome.
>>345252457
Hey, opposite side of the same coin: your post proves that there are fags who do still play Sonic and don't see any reason to complain about it.
Except your side is much worse. Thanks for killing, and ensuring the continued and ongoing death of, a once great franchise. Call it shit taste, fanboyism, just plain ignorance -- whatever the reason, it's the fault of people like this, not even so much Sega's, that things still have not improved. You people buy the bad 3D games, you're complicit in shitty video games in general, you are, in short, cancer. The cancer. That killed Sanic.
>>345257143
>>345257158
Shit taste desu
>>345257143
I recommend you play the ROM hack games if you enjoy the classics.
If its another collection iamma fucking flip.
Sick of collections, give me new, good games
>>345253773
to be fair, you are a faggot
>>345257509
>Sick of collections, give me new, good games
>New good games
>Sonic
>>345243935
could mozart still be alive?
>>345240450
its gonna be a new series, and its gonna be based on the biggest anime hit much like dbz and adventurd, itll be attack on titan this time
>>345253773
Kill yourself, you fucking parrot.
>>345257036
How the fuck does that matter? Would you suddenly enjoy boost2win games if they made you freeze for half a second before you flew off?
>>345257229
>"how dare these people have fun, don't they realise these new games taint the sacred core of the Sonic series"
Listen to yourself.
>>345256109
>click this link to secure your twitter
This could either be before the shenanigans that happened and is how Eggman got control in the first place, or afterwards and Eggman's just being a dick.
>>345258202
>How the fuck does that matter? Would you suddenly enjoy boost2win games if they made you freeze for half a second before you flew off?
They'd be better if they didn't have the boost and played like the Genesis games
>>345258202
>Listen to yourself.
Take your own advice. You're greatly exaggerating what I said and you know it. Or maybe you don't, and you legitimately can't comprehend the possibility that your position is wrong, that the original fanbase which was here first and has been playing video games, and Sonic specifically, longer than you have just might know what the fuck they're talking about.
>>345258202
>How the fuck does that matter?
How the fuck does it not? In order to spin dash you have to come to a full stop in a game which according to idiots anyway is all about going fast. That's huge. That's literally game changing, proof: Look how it changed Sonic 2 compared to Sonic 1. I'm going to have to conclude you are one of the aforementioned idiots that you did not already understand this in the first place.
>tfw you are working on a classic sonic style 3d platformer
is it ogre for my game?
>>345256109
>Ray the Flying Squirrel: Remember me?
>>345259527
I may be exaggerating your position, but I still fail to see how boost is objectively, specifically a bad platforming mechanic and not just bad for your idea of Sonic.
>>345260107
It practically takes a single second to skid to a stop and spindash. You're saying it's still a bigger deal in Sonic 2 to gain momentum than to keep it?
>>345263003
I'm just saying the spin dash changed everything. Or at least a lot. Even if it only takes a second. Therefore it is a big deal.
