Thoughts on Vault-Tec Workshop?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb6edgIP7y8
I'm extremely excited for it.
Yet another mistake.
>>345238430
it's okay if you like building vaults i guess
>>345238430
wow i cant wait to buy it!
>>345238430
I want to fuck that vault girl in the artwork.
>>345238430
Who are these fags
where is based todd
>>345238430
I torrented it. it's decent, and there are a few quests. There is a shit ton of space to build in, so no complaints there. Honestly it's great if you like workshop mode, but some of the building aspects are frustrating. It's decent over all.
>>345238430
paid mods
>>345241405
What vault stuff goes on? Is it like all the other settlements where you build things for shits and giggles, or does anything actually happen?
>>345238430
it won't be as good as fallout shelter
>>345238430
I remember them specifically pointing out that when they showed off the barbershop item people were excited that they could customize their dwellers, but then they had to make it clear that isn't the case at all and it's just letting you bring showlooksmenu to your settlements as opposed to having to see the asian guy.
Like, what the fuck? Fallout Shelter has more RPG elements and features in general compared to the actual Fallout.
>>345241901
Basically there are 4 shitty experiments that you can do on some settlers. For example you can build a soda machine that either acts like a normal machine and provides food, or you can inject the soda machine with different chemicals to make the settlers sort of loopy. It's pretty autistic. There are a shit ton of pieces to build with, but figuring out which ones go where can be a HUGE pain in the ass. However, with the shit they provide you could probably do a lot.
>>345242567
Bummer, probably something I'll mostly ignore then. The settlement crap is a good baseline but they really need to tie some gameplay to it.
Finally a convenience for all those wondrous ideas I've been having. For years, I've been saying the mods need to be packaged by Bethesda, and now, I can enjoy them the way developers intended. Is there anything I can't thank this team for?
>>345242567
>Basically there are 4 shitty experiments that you can do on some settlers.
Welp, that's a crushing disappointment. More or less the only thing I was looking forward to was running crazy experiments on settlers.
>>345240096
Hey Todd nice game
The only dlc worth buying is Automatron and Far Harbor yet. I have played all of them, the other 3 workshop dlcs are paid mods, minecraft content.
>>345242567
Gold mine for porn mod tho.
Drugged soda and orgy fucking soon.
>>345243039
Yeah it was a let down. The quest line and experiments were way shorter than they should have been. The way the experiments worked were that you had to build something like a stationary bike (the one that was in the trailer for the DLC), and then you hook it up to a computer, and power said computer. From there you select the effect that the bike has. There are usually 3 options that consists of a normal "moral choice" as the main protagonist calls it (such as the bike simply providing a temporary endurance boost to you or any NPC that uses it), or something along the lines of getting the dweller addicted to riding the bike via injected chemicals, and said bike converting the bike usage into raw power. After you make your selection you wait an hour and then listen to some dialogue, and then the experiment is done. Honestly you can complete the entire quest line in 10 minutes.
Bethesda rapes everything! EVERYTHING!
>>345243859
That's the laziest, stupidest thing I've ever heard. I swear to God the porn mods better be worth it.
>>345243743
I can't wait to use the workshop build my own brothel/strip club as soon as porn mods come out
Literally the only thing that will convince me topirateFallout 4
Supposedly Nukaworld is the last dlc. I thought there would be more.
>>345244901
Honestly this. I wish they made Fallout 4 a bit darker in theme. There are no whores, rapists, or anything of the sort. I want to feel like I'm actually in a sick and twisted world.
>STRIPPERS AND HOOKERS NOW
>>345245112
So did I. I was really hoping for more story DLC. I'm at least lucky that I got the season pass for $30. The workshop DLC's are lame as fuck. Some of the concepts are cool, but they should have been included in the base game.
Is there some bullshit explanation as to how this is all possible or does the DLC not have any connection to the story at all?
>>345245323
How's the contraptions DLC? Do the conveyor belts, crafting machines and shit like allow you to make cool stuff? Or is it just glorified crafting?
>>345245520
The quest literally consists of you listening to a radio broadcast, killing raiders, then talking to some ghoul bitch who was trapped in this cave for 200 years. The entire quest is short, and the dialogue seems really stupid and unrealistic even for Fallout 4. There is no tie to the story aside from the few dialogue options where the player can talk about how they don't like Vaults.
>>345245685
It's kind of cool if you play survival, but other than that you have an easier time finding ammo off dead bodies and in chests/containers. It is one of the better workshop DLC's, but again it should have been included in the base game. In terms of things you can make, it's pretty much specific ammo types, military armor that is already littered throughout the game, and random pieces of power armor. You can make food and shit too but it's really not all that exciting. Some of the decorations are cool though.
>>345238430
I really want to know what the "SARCASTIC" option makes the player say at 13:10 in the video
What did you guys expect from a workshop DLC? At least you get a 10 minute questline, unlike the other two workshops.
>>345246121
Something other than things that should have been in the game in the first place.
Fallout 4's DLC has been shit so far. 4 glorified mods, and a shittier Point Lookout.
>>345246085
even contraptions is fairly bare bones as a DLC and is really saved by manufacturing extended
vault tec dlc is looking to be the best of the three, just because of the size of the build area and other quality of life features
>>345245112
I thought that too. I mean, with F3 and New Vegas they brought DLCs for a year after the release of the base game. I thought there would be DLCs for September, October, November.
Fallout 4 was a mistake.
>A Ghoul in a sealed vault
Thats not how it works is it? I thought people were turned into ghouls via high exposure of radiation?
>>345250695
There's lots of uranium in the vault.
Plus bethesda don't care about the fallout lore.
>>345250864
>Kid ghoul stuck in fridge for 200 years
Still mad.
>>345245112
Who is that Sith?
>>345251086Literally over a million hours.
It's no Old World Blues
>>345245112
I thought the "we're planning a lot of DLC, so we're increasing the price" thing meant all of these DLC would be the first set they release with more being planned.
It's actually hard to believe they did worse DLC wise than Fallout 3. I knew this shitty workshop system would tear away at content people play the actual game for.
Have mods finally arrived on console?
>>345241405
Important question can you have an entrance up above or do you have to start from the bottom
>Another mod-tier DLC
I've been playing it off a friend's steam share account and I STILL feel ripped off. F4 has been hot fucking garbage. At least the graphics are relatively nice
>>345238430
More superficial settlement filler that has no actual use nor does the AI even interact with meaningfully.
No matter how much crap you build the npcs will always just jerk off on plants for 16 hours a day then go to sleep.
>>345238430
They're so fucking bad at the game. Why is this allowed?
>>345251458
on xbone.
dont count on porn.
>>345238430
On top of it being another Fallout 4 related mistake, I wantthe cute nerd on the right to.let me swallow his kids
>>345251402
>I thought the "we're planning a lot of DLC, so we're increasing the price" thing meant all of these DLC would be the first set they release with more being planned.
The first three DLC were wave one. Contraptions, Vault-Tec, and Nuka World were the reason for the price increase, according to them.
This is why you shouldn't support the season pass model
>>345251530
Excuse me?
>>345238430
Cool, but Fo4 seems to be more about what Bethesda can do with their engine, it is not really a good RPG, but it is a fun sandbox.
Too bad they cannot get Obsidian on the phone anymore, given Fo3 Van Buren plot was around developing settlements, it could be built into the plot, and have a bigger impact than what Obsidian had planned originally.
>Hey Prisoner, remember those 8 settlements you spent 100 each building...You got to nuke one
>Witcher 3 Season Pass
>$25 and comes with 2 DLC's that have a combined playtime of around 35+ hours
>Fallout 4 season pass
>Originally $30 now $50, comes with a few small settlement/workshop addons and possibly only 2 large DLC's who's hours I'm not sure of, but probably not incredibly long
Can't help but feel Bethesda dropped the ball, assuming the Nuka DLC is the last one.
>>345238430
>only the PC can clear debris with his mind
>in 200+ years she couldn't dig her own way out
That nuke in the beginning of the game must have endowed the PC with PK
>>345252303
>Can't help but feel Bethesda dropped the ball
OH JUST RECENTLY?
>>345252134
You heard me, you manlet fucboi. Your game is dog-turd-on-hot-asphalt bad and I got buyers remorse from pirating it.
>>345252578
Gets me every time.
>>345252614
thanks for downloading my bitcoin miner
>>345252578
Well they've been dropping the ball for a bit now, parts of Skyrim at least for me, Fallout 4. I'd really like to see more developers do the kind of DLC CDPR did with Witcher 3.
>>345252614
Open up New folder and post screenshot faggot. Without modifying anything in it.
>>345252578
Embarrassing.
>>345252303
Bethesda dropped the ball after Morrowind.
After one hour I'm already done with it. The area you have to work with is enormous, but there's only seven or eight rooms to build and fuck all to put in them and there's no actual added functionality so ultimately it's still just a worthless settlement filled with worthless settlers. Only true autists could find this even slightly worth spending real earth dollars on. Questline is uninteresting and only adds four items that don't do anything, plus a worthless vault suit when you finish them all. Even though the map is big some of the transitions from sector to sector are so poorly-done that you can't build hallways through them so you have to go outside the vault shit to get to them. Plus the reactors are too big to fit in any room that isn't an atrium because Bethesda in all their infinite wisdom made every other room have a maximum of one story unless you add floor above it which you can't do thanks to the fucking reactor existing in that space already.
It's pretty shit, even by Fallout 4 standards. I don't even know why I torrented the game for the fourth time just to try this garbage out.
>>345252915
I hope it's everything you wanted
>>345252945
no, they dropped the ball after daggerfall.
>>345252945
I'm inclined to agree, but Oblivion wasn't terrible, just flawed in some aspects such as the levelling system, Fallout 4 was really mediocre in almost every aspect.
>>345253051
>no gay bug gifting porn
Faggot, you're a disappointment.
>>345243743
Have the boys at LL figured out a way to do custom animations without using that professional grade program that you're forced to use now?
If not then don't expect any real porn mods anytime soon.
>>345253294
I keep all that under "cat gifs"
>>345251402
What the hell is that "lunch"?
>>345254059
Underdog indie devs like Todd have to subsist on meager rations like that in order to survive. Most of the money from game sales goes directly into improving the product for the consumer, and the devs themselves rarely make enough to even make ends meet, and often have to hold down one or more actual jobs just to be able to enjoy their hobby; making video games to share with the world.
It looks like he has part of a potato in there, f4 must have really done well.
>>345241405
YOU WHAT
>>345254771
That's right. I P I R A T E D it.
P. I. R. A. T. E. D.
why is all the fo4 dlc so shitty? fo3 and new vegas had proper expansions.
>>345255023
you have exactly three seconds to
buy
my
game
>>345255329
NOPE. NOT BUYING TODD'S GAME. AHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHA. NEVER BUYING TODD'S GAME. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. NEVER!
>>345255238
they realized they don't have to try. release some crafting instead of making new towns/dungeons and people will still buy and defend you.
>>345255520
Didn't I see Fallout 4 on your "recently played" list?
Fallout 4 was a mistake.
>>345256132
Hey. Settle down, man.
I just don't care anymore.
>>345238430
hate vault tec
>>345256132
Or what, you manlet bitch.>>345256132
>another raider focused dlc
Pitt 2.0 because bethesda
Are Fallout 4 DLC plugins like Skyrim, or does it actually have DRM now?
>>345245112
Seeing as how they bumped up the season pass to $50 there should have been a hell of a lot more.
>>345256308
Hello?
>>345240893
These dlc have good vault girls I don't give a fuck about the game.
>Vaults in Fallout lore cost trillions of dollars to make
>Now any douche can get some scrap metal and plastic and make their own!
Far Harbor was pretty fucking mediocre. How lazy can Bethesda get despite being bigger and richer than ever?
It's sad that Fallout 3 had much better DLC. That's how far we've fallen.
>>345238430
It's fine. I'll build a based vault with big walls and make the Raiders pay for it.
It's $5. Not a big deal to get pissed off about even if you don't like it. Literally the price of a subway sandwich.
I like building. If you don't that's fine. The DLC isn't for you, I get it. But it is a big part of the game and appeals to a large amount of the players.
>>345241405
How'd you torrent it when it doesn't even get releases until Tuesday?
>>345259515
Vaults cost money to make because you have to pay laborers. If you're doing it all yourself, you massive faggo, who would you pay? Yourself? Why would it cost money? Do you even know how currency and economy works? It's based on belief that it works, faith it has value. It's just fucking paper and metal, you douche. It only has value if we all agree it does and it only has a specific value if we agree it does.
>>345259515
To be honest the Sole Survivor is basically McGuyver of the Fallout universe.
>New Vegas
>can craft a lot of shit, but it's mostly explosives/medicine/bullets/some improvised weapons
>Fallout 4
>can make water purifier in every settlement with some scrap like Tony Stark while in first Fallout you had to travel and go through a lot of pain and trouble to get a used water purification chip
>can make almost every weapon mod on a workbench, even an advanced scope that tracks enemies
>>345260489
A single person making a structure of that scope would take decades. Just admit Bethesda doesn't give a shit and wants shekels.
>>345259884
it's sad to see everyone outside of /v/ praising Far Harbor when it's just a big empty map with raider dungeons of no note, all but 2 sidequests are lazy fetch quests and one of the legitimate quests was ripped from a NV mod
>>345260395
All Fallout DLCs get leaked. Today I saw one guy posting footage of Vault-Tec Workshop on Youtube. Automatron leaked like a week before official release.
>>345260724
>All Fallout DLCs get leaked.
Bullshit, I don't see it anywhere.
>>345260489
The Sole Survivor was hit with a blast of empowering psychokinetic energy thats manifested in fantastic construction abilities.
>>345260795
I'm not tricking you dude. They all get leaked before release. You know the DLCs have beta testers, right? Also IIRC there is no DRM, so when beta testers get DLC it's bound to get leaked.
>>345260949
Still not seeing it. You're LYING on the INTERNET.
This settlement shit is an actual cancer on Fallout.
It takes up half of the main game, which already feels fucking empty as it is. It's also mind numbingly boring minecraft/Fallout shelter bullcrap that only appeals to actually autistic people or le wacky memers who make giant neon penises or something. It's literally a scaled up version of their terrible mobile game.
The worst part is that all the Normies/Redditors eat it up, and you can tell that it will have heavier involvement in future games. Welcome to the future of Fallout. No longer a shooter but some lame trend catering cawadooty meets Rust/Ark/Zombie Survivalcraft Z.
Fuck.
>>345260949
SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT
OUR SECURITY JUST WORKS
>>345261017
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQ1sKGNA7wpuLSmbiOr_01g/videos
This guy has 5 videos already.
>>345261171
And to think /v/ was celebrating when Bethesda bought the Fallout IP.
>>345261171
*no longer an RPG.
Shitballs,
>>345261171
It was interesting at first until I realized it has zero actual point. You can generate a really shitty stream of caps, as if caps weren't completely worthless in this game anyway. Or you can build a stupid artillery cannon that needs at least 10 years to lock on and fire so you may as well just shoot whatever is bothering you yourself.
>>345261319
I call bullshit. Screenshot please. Everyone knew Bethesda was lazy after Oblivion.
>>345261318
*spits venom at you*
THIS IS NOT A TORRENT
>>345261398
You also come to realize that it's covering for the fact that Fallout 4 literally only has two towns.
TWO FUCKING TOWNS.
The first Fallout game had more towns than that, and with much better content too. I think Junktown alone had more worthwhile quests than Diamond City.
>>345261496
I am going to just call you a baby.
BABY BABY BABY
>>345261631
There are like 30 settlements retard
>>345261719
Not that guy, but settlement=/= town.
>>345261821
trolled hard
>>345261719
>settlement
wow, a shack with three NPCs that wander around and give endless quests. Amazing.
I'm talking about towns, retard. Of which there are only two: Goodneighbour and Diamond City.
He means towns with actual npcs that dont just give radiant quests bro...
>>345261989
Even Fallout 3 did better than that, much better.
It makes me sad.
>>345261631
There is also the Covenant and Bunker Hill. Have you discovered these places?
>>345262524
Bunker Hill is barely a town. What even is there to do.
Similarly, Covenant exists for that one quest alone.
>>345262524
He said towns
>>345262524
Those are settlements
>>345245112
why supposedly?
>>345262658
>What even is there to do.
Oh easy. In that """"""town"""""" you fight a story related battle and complete some faction specific missions.
You can also buy a generic supply of equipment and medical services.
>>345245112
There was, I'm going to make this a legal thing after gathering some evidence; I don't care about any of you though, I'll be satisfied with getting a full refund for the season pass as hush money.
>>345243712
Don't buy Far Horbor, it's stolen property and the money doesn't go to the actual creators.
http://www.moddb.com/mods/autumn-leaves/news/big-publishers-and-a-small-mod
>>345262524
Even if you managed to argue that those two are actually considerable as fully fledged towns, that's still only four towns, two of which are barebones as fuck. That's still less than the original Fallout.
>>345263032
Absolutely fucking shameful, how has Bethesda gotten away with this?
fallout 4 isn't a bad game
>>345260491
Why. He's just a soilder. There's no reason for him to know this.
Goodneighbour, Diamond City, Vault 81, Prydwen, Institute, Covenant can all be considered towns.
All these locations have traders, people living and various quests.
>>345263249
It's a decent open world shooter with survival craft aspects, on the lines of something like Far Cry.
It's fucking disgusting as a Fallout game though.
>>345242531
Like a week after release I had a mod that added that functionality, wtf, how lazy is Todd?
>>345263249
Yes it is
>>345263295
How many of these locations have atleast 20 people in them?
>>345263295
>Covenant
>town
lmao
and I totally forgot Vault 81 even existed. Shows how good Fallout 4's world building is I suppose.Even fucking Adytum was more memorable than that.
>>345263184
Bethdrones will defend anything.
>>345238430
Makes Hearthfire look like a masterpiece
>>345263628
All of them definitely have at least 20 people in them
>>345260491
4 is set over 100 years after 1, did it not occur that technology advances over time?
>>345263628
All right you dandy fuck, name one village/town from Morrowwind, Oblivion, or Skyrim that had 20 people.
>>345263761
Five towns isn't very impressive for a big budget game like this.
>>345263886
Never played them. Why the fuck does it matter?
>>345263793
Fallout 3, ten years prior to Fallout 3, also had a plot that hinged on getting a fuckhueg science project working to purify water. It looks James and the Brotherhood of Steel decades to do something that the Sole Survivor can do in minutes.
Entire industries and merchant empires have been founded on the West Coast based on the claim to pure water, but in the Commonwealth it's utterly trivialized by a bloke in a Vault suit that can make pure water out of scrap metal.
>>345263886
Meant to say Bunker Hill, not Covenant. Covenant only has 1 quest tied to it.
>>345263971
>expecting a nuclear shithole to be a bustling center of commerce
>>345263971
>>345264093
What an awful excuse.
Fallout 2 and New Vegas had more towns than that.
>>345264065
delete this
>>345264093
>200 years
>Only five towns
>>345264115
It's fucking lazy.
>>345264093
The time it has been since the nuclear war in Fallout 4 for us is equivalent to the time it has been since the Napoleonic wars were going on. If Bethesda wants to have such terrible shitholes of a game world, they need to start setting the games not long after the nuclear war happened.
>>345253051
>windows xp background
>internet explorer
>dat candy crush
>folder titled cat pictures
literally what
>>345264646
Fallout 3 was actually supposed to be just after the war, but they changed the date for some reason. It would make much more sense.
>>345264646
they really need to do a spinoff series with games set up to maybe 50 years after the war. a game set in the near immediate aftermath would be fucking hot. i mean it wouldn't really be a fallout game at that point but neither are what we're getting now anyway, so why not make use of some unexplored territory rather than making the same game over and over
>>345264796
Maybe his parents' PC?
>>345263184
>They own it xD
And descendants of Gutenberg can steal any book in existence and publish it as their own according to that logic.
>>345264953
fuck i really want a game set as the war is happening and immediately after
>>345263184
The gaming public at large sucks Bethesda's cock, along with the gaming press which is why they're not covering it.
>>345263263
>implying being in the army automatically means being a field soldier
>>345264162
Except fallout 2 and new vegas take place in the Mojave Wasteland e.g the Mojave Desert
Fallout 4 takes place around the Boston commonwealth, a MUCH smaller area
>>345265491
The player is trained to use power armor.
>>345264796
That's for when normies visit. When he's alone, he switches over to linux.
>>345265780
*bethesda retconned the training requirment
>>345265780
He could have been trained as a field soldier and then got promoted and/or assigned a different unit based on his skills in a scientific field; it happens all the time
You know, the best part about the shitty season pass for Fallout is that Far Harbour wasn't really planned for it. They upped the price just now recently to facilitate Far Harbour and the Nuka Cola Theme Park both being in it.
Essentially, they only really planned to add a few shitty worskhop items and pass that off as the season pass.
>>345265925
BETHESDA CAN SUCK MY FUCKING DICK.
>>345266015
>>345265950
wrong
originally announced were automatron, wasteland workshop and far harbor. then price was upped to accomodate contraptions, vault tec, nuka world
If Bethesda allowed you to create a Fallout game of your own plot and setting, what would it be?
Hard mode: Todd is making you include some of East Coast lore in
Dante must die mode:Have to keep the settlement system in
>>345263032
You sound like you want paid mods to come back by complaining about that.
>>345264945
>Okay so what are we going to put on the front cover?
>how about power armor?
>Wouldn't that be too confusing? I meant the brotherhood of steel aren't even in the game
>nah, we'll add them to the game, just delay it a few months
>but the game takes place on the east coast, that pisses on the lore entirely
>i'm sure you'll figure it out
>Me? what are you going to do
>i'm too busy with Oblivion 2, and don't forget we need content for DLC too, so don't go too crazy
>>345259515
>Bethesda
>Caring about lore
Pick one.
>first time in my entire life I bought a season pass
>since I enjoyed all the DLC/expacs from Morrowind through Skyrim, I figured I'd enjoy it
>incredibly disappointed with FO4, barely managed to force myself through it
>all the DLCs have looked like complete shit on par with mods, save Far Harbour
>can't muster up the will to launch it again
Thanks for teaching me to never buy season passes, I guess. Lesson definitely learned.
>>345266280
Thanks for correcting me
holy shit still not worth it though
>>345266879
Bethesda games are extremely easy to pirate. Just don't give Todd your money from now on.
>>345266607
Midwest, probably Illinois/Chicago Just so I can clear up the lore there and also not step on the toes of Bethesda or Obsidian/Black Isle
Plot wise I'd probably recycle leftover content from Van Buren not already taken by New Vegas. I'd probably have a plot related to the New Plague, Bloomfield Space Center (Now moved to Rockford) and BOMB 001. In terms of lore I'd place emphasis on how parts of the USA were coming apart before the war. In Chicago you'd see the remains of a pre-war riot, quarantine and those Insta-Pen anti-riot cages from Van Buren. The Chicago Enclave outpost would probably play a role. Of course I'd have new Midwestern factions to play with.
The Midwestern Brotherhood would be massively scaled back from Tactics. I'd still have them bigger and outward than the Mojave chapter, but they're not a state-spanning army.
In terms of East Coast lore, I'd probably involve the Slave trade from the Pitt in some fashion.
In terms of East Coast
>>345238430
cancer hurry up and release the complete edition you faggot todd
It actually works perfectly
>>345266607
Set several years after New Vegas, Vegas itself is now apart of the NCR. The Legion has disbanded with several former members splintering into raider tribes.
In the outlying regions, Someone is trying to unite all the raider tribes into a large force big enough to rival the strength of the NCR.
The game takes place on the fringe of NCR territory, You play as an NCR conscript that gets taken prisoner in a surprise attack while training. This introduces you to the failing state of the NCR as well as the escalating threat of the coordinated raider force.
Todd tax- A quest where you encounter a platoon of east coast BOS moving west after being all but wiped out.
DMDM- Outpost building if you side with NCR, Raid camp building if you side with the raiders.
>>345238430
So its just a big base to build more shitty, ugly things in?
>>345246121
why are you mad they didn't include something that shouldn't have been in the base game
>>345269067
>Vegas itself is now apart of the NCR
Shit game
>>345261496
git good pleb find it
>>345265940
Fair enough. But why can he be a smooth talker? You'd expect a soilder to have PTSD
>>345270103
It's not anywhere
>>345268234
Yea, and you could include aspects of the manufacturing center of Chicago, robotics, military, and automobile factories.
>>345270514
git good newfag
>>345270514
Found it in less than a minute. Get good.
>>345238430
Basically horse armor for Fallout universe.
>>345270804
Or Detroit, which would make it easy, since you could use the modern Detroit for reference.
>>345270827
>>345270820
Nice lying on the internet
>>345240096
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJJbjvSKeYg
>>345246085
Oh so you can craft ammo finally?
>>345265940
He is already got most of the prewar perks because he was directly frozen in time and thus much more familiar with prewar tech where as almost everybody else was popped from a post war womb. You had the luxury of being a pre war popsicle so you don't need to be told on how to use a power armor. Likewise, you probably read vault tec schematics for fun.
>>345256902
They don't
>>345238430
Stupid.
Why?
Because builders/factories can't be manned by settlers and turn off as soon as you leave a settlement.
What a fucking waste.
>>345271617
Yes, but only while you're in the settlement, turn on the machines and then stand there and wait for it to churn out ammo.
No automated assembly lines here, everything only works while your around.
Don't know, still on 1.5.416 or what ever the last 1.5 update was because 1.6+ shits it self with settlers with any mods installed.
>>345272182
That's not THAT bad. Does it need resources or make it on its own? How fast or slow are we talking here? How many rounds per minute can you produce?
>>345272819
It takes about about 8 seconds to craft 10 shotgun shells once the builder is loaded.
You can do some overfancy hopper + conveyer system to feed it but theneverything is even slower because you have to wait until all the parts are loaded (which at a speed that won't jam the hopper is 1 item per second, you need 6 items to craft shotgun shells (2plastic, 2 lead, 2 fertilizer) and the hopper only sends items in order, so if you have 100 lead/100plastic/100fertilizer in a container for the hopper, it will send 100 lead units, then 100 plastic, so on - 202 seconds before the builder can even start.
Or you can just dump the junk straight into the builder itself and bypass 202 seconds of waiting for no reason.
All the extra time would be alright if you could have settlers man the factory, but you can't - so as far as it goes, the whole conveyor/hopper/sorter/etc system is useless - it's just added time.
The builders are alright, certainly cheaper than buying ammo - but forget the rest of the cruft, the only things you need are a builder of whatever type, an attached terminal and conveyor storage so your shit doesn't just spill all over the floor.
>Really enjoyed Fallout Shelter
>Hated Fallout 4
Bethesda sure do hit and miss.
