Guess who is canon in Star Wars now.
Not like any of you ever played Empire at War.
Wasn't Thrawn from the EU books?
>>345214456
Originally yes. But he also got some vidya appearences.
>>345214238
the empire seemed 1488 gas the xenos scum why would they let a blue nigger work for them
>>345215003
Because Thrawn was so awesome commander so emperor let him be.
>>345215003
Thrawn was just that good.
>>345215003
As far as I know the Empire was always cool with the Chiss.Kinda like nazis were cool with Japan?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmXp802sFgQ
>Sev'rance who?
fucking disney
>>345214238
>sw celebration same weekend as evo
what the fuck
>Kyle Katarn
>Jacen and Jaina Solo
>Jan Ors
>Dash Rendar
>etc
so many good stories that just went away
He looks like shit. Why is the Rebels artstyle so damn shitty compared to Clone Wars?
>>345214238
>that CG
Is this a PS2 game???
>>345215003
He took down an Empire scouting expedition with a bunch of underpowered crusiers. Got the Emperor's attention and was the only Admiral to openly disagree with his plans, but was later proved correct.
Got moved to the Outer Rim because racism tho
>>345214238
>Pupils
ruined
>>345215003
Chiss aren't really a separate species from humans, they're classified as near-humans, which are capable of interbreeding.
>>345215520
Did I see the Outrider in that one shot? Is this supposed to be a Dark Trooper?
>Rebels producer thinks the ysalamiri are dumb and don't fit what we know of the Force, so they won't be appearing ever.
>Mara Jade confirmed not showing up in any fashion as well.
>>345215520
>Darth Maul
HOW?
This is bullshit, he died I felt it.
>>345217112
The producer said that the person behind the design of the Outrider back in the day is on his team for the show. They are bringing the design back because of it, but not Dash along with it.
>>345217174
>he doesn't follow the cartoons
Movie only fags are so behind in the story.
>>345217138
>Mara Jade
>>345214238
Empire at war is one of the best Star wars games ever made, I mean mods alone make it a 10/10 but the expansion and the space battles were so good. Getting and holding Kuat with Star destroyers crushing Rebel scum was good times
>>345216856
Didn't moving him there ultimately save his ass though, since his fleet was able to escape completely intact from the events of Return of the Jedi?
so does this mean we have a chance of seeing Thrawn in the movies or is it now official that we won't?
>>345214238
The only canon in Star Wars is the first three movies and the Droids cartoon.
>>345217286
Was Jar Jar the key to all of this?
>>345218612Mara Jade.It was a skit.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A45FQvlfU6Q
>>345218490
Only movie he can show up in is Rogue One, unless he lives for over 35 years to be in the TFA era. Rogue One already has a cartoon-only character showing up (Saw Gerrera from TCW) so it's entirely possible for Thrawn to show up in a movie if he lives through this season.
>>345214456
Was a central figure in the "TIE Fighter" games as well.
>>345218490
Forest Whitaker's character in Rogue One is from TCW, so it's definitely possible
They won't use a single thing from any EU materials. E7 already stuck true to this, with everything new being chosen with contrariness to EU as the first consideration. These movies are supposed to be NEW. Luke will be dead halfway through E8 and after that everything will be about the new characters. Leia will be the only original trilogy character to briefly cameo in E9.
>>345219353
>These movies are supposed to be NEW.
Wait. You mean they didn't just put a new special edition version of 4 in cinemas? What the fuck did I go see then?
>>345215246
nazis weren't cool with japan. they just didn't want to deal with them during the war.
>>345217174
Blame Lucas.
>>345219353
>TCW character showing up in Rogue One movie
>Ep 8 director helped write some of one of the recently released books to help people understand what will show up in 8
Didn't Hamill already say that the Ep 9 director wanted Luke alive by that movie so he could have his way with the character?
>>345219489
episode 4 is still canon retard
so ashoka dead? according to this trailer?
>>345216856
>Got moved to the Outer Rim because racism tho
No, he got moved because he was a fanfiction character and the people who made the OT never gave a flying fuck about him, that's why he doesn't exist in the movies.
>>345219353
Fucks sake.
TFA was a goddamned retarded catastrophe and no amount of disney money and pull is going to make that shit not a massive failure in retrospect.
>>345219772
There's still no confirmation of it, other than "we'll see her in the future again." It wasn't said whether that would be in the future of the timeline from where she "died" in Rebels, or we see her again in flashbacks or things that happened prior to Rebels.
>>345219353
I have serious money on Luke fucking biting it in E8 just so he can be like Obi Wan, training Rey (who is obv the new Luke(
>>345219772
Ahsoka was killed by Vader in Rebels recently. They had a duel, she tried to redeem him, he refused and she stayed to hold him off while the temple blew up.
NOW ALL WE NEED IS REVAN
>>345214238
So the whole nazis vs rebels thing they had going in TFA was so stupid that they are going to retcon the first order into being a small section of rich empire glory days worshipping nuts and make Thrawn the actual leader of the empiral remnants correct?
Cause...I honestly don't understand how Leia isn't Queen and major war hawk for the new republican senate.
I don't get how there isn't a major cold war going on between these two sides and the events in TFA were just a small skirmish.
>watching these awful cartoons
>making cherry picked highlight reals to trick people into watching these awful cartoons
I just don't get it. I really don't.
>>345220026
>a goddamned retarded catastrophe
Regardless of how you feel personally, TFA was such an enormous success Star Wars will probably go down as the biggest franchise in film history. They're going to make more SW movies than fucking Avengers/Marvel. TFA was an extremely safe movie. They introduced just enough for a safe story, killed one "major" character and left a whole lot open as far as the EU goes. Biggest loss so far is Rogue One stealing the death star plans, but we still can probably expect to see Dash Rendar in some form.
>>345216762
No Lucas bux.
>>345220146
she survived exploding temples all the time in clown wars
>>345214238
>thrawn
>from empire at war
Have YOU read timothy zahn, faggot-kun?
>>345220434
That was when Lucas was using her as his little girl stand-in.
>>345219353
I will never understand how people are just shitting all over TFA like it fucked their mother.
Rei got good way too fast and needs to get taken down a notch next movie.
It was edited too fast, too much like a modern blockbuster.
>>345220164
I want a fucking KOTOR1&2 Miniseries on netflix.
Get Sarah Kestelman as Kreia, reframe the Jedi Civil and Mandalorian Wars as a series of flashbacks and give me some more star wars PTSD.
>>345218798
>>345218490
Voiceactor is Lars Mikkelsen. He could easily play Thrawn in a live-action movie considering how they made the character look in the Rebels trailer.
>>345220497
im just sayin'
>Maul lived
>Anakin lived
>Snoke
>Zahn
>Doing another Thrawn book next year
I'm excited and scared at the same time
>>345220146
that was off screen right? i doubt she is dead. Anni prob knocked her out, took her to reprogram her into a sith. cause if vader got out she could have.
>>345220572
Like I said in >>345220362 Regardless of what anons on 4chan think, TFA was a big enough success that this Franchise will never fucking die. They will pump more movies from it than Avengers/Marvel. TFA was a play it safe film, they had enough characters and locations for a single movie, one "major" character death, but there is still so much we don't know about the world and what's happened in the past 2 canon decades that most of the EU is up for debate. Biggest loss so far comes with Rogue One being the story of how the Death Star plans were captured. We can expect a lot more movies in the intervening decades between 6-7 fleshing things out, that's why we don't know much based solely on TFA.
Like honestly, do you want JJ making up 20 years of canon?
>>345219524
yeah, because them living literally on the other side of the world was no issue.
The alliance between germany and soviet union was one of convenience, because neither wanted to deal with the other atm, but japan had great relations with germany since mid to late 19th century. Japanese school systems were adapted from germany. there are shitloads of roads in either country named after things from the other, many cities have partner cities in the other country.
Hitler even called them "true aryans".
Tl;dr
You know shit.
>>345220101
Nigga, TFA basically threw the whole force ghost thing out of the window.
Fucking darth emo jews entire thing was him jacking off over the helmet of Darth Vader and "FINISHING HIS WORK". I'm not even going to get into how he was able to get a fucking helmet that was canonically burned to ash from radioactive ruin of the ewoks hone world.
Nor am I going to go into MAGIC LIGHT SABERS CAN NOW CALL TO PEOPLE THROUGH THE FORCE thing and the whole BECOME FORCE MASTER IN SECONDS BECAUSE OF THE FORCE!! stuff.
Luke can't be a force ghost because it makes TFA retroactively look even more fucking stupid.
And rey isn't the new Luke. She's just the new protag,and a text book mary sue.
If anything the stupid finn character is more like luke.
>>345220606
also boba fett
>>345220340
I'm not a fan of Rebels. Prinze Jr is just doing his typical Bioware character but in the SW universe, Sabine is young female demographic bait, for lack of a better term. Chopper is forced so hard that I find it annoying, and Ezra is a whiny cunt. Zeb is the only redeeming new character.
I may dislike Rebels, but I have to follow it for what's canon and the like. It's painful being an adult Star Wars fan now.
>>345220909
Dude you are way too mad to have this discussion with. There's a lot of evidence Snoke is manipulating Darht Emo Jew through the helmet. As for Light Sabers containing memories, there have been plenty of force artifacts instilling memories and visions throughout the canon. Rey is definitely the new Luke, down to their fucking story arcs. Like how you could watch them meeting at the end and not realize this is fucking beyond me.
>>345220909
the force does a lot of new things in TFA
>object residual memory / triggering Rey's bloodline
>holding laserblasts in midair
>force infused missiles (new for the movies atleast)
>>345220934
>>345220606
I love how one off "cool badass" characters with no character beyond their design like fett and maul were retconned from certain death cause of rabid fanboys.
>>345221104
its basically a modern Final Fantasy game
>>345220362
>TFA was such an enormous success Star Wars will probably go down as the biggest franchise in film history.
Dude
1. Disney stacked the deck in the movies favor. MAJORLY
2.The shwag sales for the movie has been dismal.
3.No one outside of the jezebel/feminist crowd likes the ray character. And even they are only giving her the big thumbs up because of gurl powah. Ren is a fucking joke and darth smeagul..dude.
>>345221217
While I still think bringing Maul back was a dumb move, it at least gave the character some depth that TPM sorely lacked.
>they will never be togetherbut Barriss didnt die on screen so i still believe
>>345220909
>I'm not even going to get into how he was able to get a fucking helmet that was canonically burned to ash from radioactive ruin of the ewoks hone world.
Why mention that and not the fact that they got Luke's original lightsaber that was supposed to be lost in Bespin?
>>345221216
>>object residual memory / triggering Rey's bloodline
Already done in the EU. Revan straight up had his mind wiped.
>>holding laserblasts in midair
Force freeze has been a thing, and kylo does it to people as well.
>>force infused missiles (new for the movies atleast)
What are these? I don't remember.
>>345221217
To be fair I have no issue with Maul. His story as a renegade apprentice who's opposing sidious is interesting. Especially in rebels. The only good part of that series is seeing how he's became a legend to the inquisitors and manipulating the jedi kid.
>>345220909
I understand your problems with Rei, wait till the next movie and hope she gets her leg sliced off for hubris.
Finn was the most likable character in the movie, don't know how he's "stupid."
>MAGIC LIGHT SABERS CAN NOW CALL TO PEOPLE THROUGH THE FORCE
Considering a shithole cave did the same thing in Empire, seemed fine to me.
>BECOME FORCE MASTER IN SECONDS BECAUSE OF THE FORCE!!
She got good way too fast, but made sense because Kylo was an insecure little bitch.
I don't get whats so crazy about Kylo digging up Vader.
You just sound like a sperg.
>>345221121
Different anon, but I agree that Rey is the new Luke. Star Wars has always been about the Skywalker family and with the new trilogy it'll be about them again, but now with the token 'handing off' of the franchise to younger actors and more and more characters to broaden demographics and appeal. Because Disney.
>>345221316
True. And other long-standing franchises. Never thought about that.
>>345214238
>never played empire at war
Nigga I will fight you in the streets. Its an amazing Star Wars game, and in my opinion, blended ground and space perfectly.
>>345221325
Rey had the potential to be interesting. Instead she was just a boring mary-sue.
I was surprised with Finn, he was a damn good character and made sense (aside from "conditioned from birth" yet had a personality hole, would've made more sense if he had just joined the first order military with no knowledge of their brutality)
>>345221436
This, and R2 suddenly turning on for no reason, are among some of the more outstanding issues I had with the film. And then they handwave it off saying "that's a story for another time". Fuck you, Abrams.
>>345221104
>>345221316
I haven't played a FF game since 12.
I haven't watched more than a few minutes of SW since III.
Just walk away. There's no point. There will never be any satisfying conclusion. Disney will see to its perpetuity.
>>345221580
Finn was just annoying, poorly constructed comedy relief
Poe was way better
>>345220909
>from radioactive ruin of the ewoks hone world.
Endor was never affected by the Death Star II's destruction, even in the EU. That was Imperial propaganda and lies.
>>345215520
>Wedge voiced by Yuri Lowenthal
>>345221580
Considering how 7 reflected 4, watch Rey get her arm/hand cut off so 8 will reference 5. And I suspect they'll justify her proficiency with the Force by having her trained under Luke as a kid but then mind-wiped and sent to Jakku to protect her from some threat.
>Clone Wars S1 and S2
>kinda boring, some decent moments but nothing too amazing
>S3 onward just gets better and better
>Rebels S1 and S2
>kinda boring, some decent moments but nothing too amazing
>S3 onward looks to get better and better
POTTERY
>>345220620
>Is a rom-com that chronicles Thrawn's early life as a art gallery curator and his struggle to win over the shy yet articulate cantina waitress
How much of his backstory can that nigga mine?
>>345220593
Based Hannibal
>>345219950
>Lucas approved sequels pre-disney, pre-prequels
ok famalam
>>345222312
Lars, not Madds silly.
>>345222312
Hannibal is Mads mikkelsen
>>345216242
>X-wing series adaptation never
It would make nice plot for a Rogue Squadron game, I guess.
It hurts that they scraped it, I really liked SW almost without the Force bullshit. It was actual Star Wars, as in war in space. With spaceships and all.
>>345221787
A character without a complete story cannot be a Mary sue. Stop being retarded.
She didn't do anything well the entire movie. Everything she did was sloppy and amateur.
>>345221905
Are you guys autistic? The force has always been magical bullshit, and star wars has always been fairytale fantasy in space. Did you even watch the original movie? Obiwan vanishes into a puff of smoke. Later he speaks to Luke from beyond the grave. The fact you accept THIS but not THAT is skewed. They are well within the same realm of storytelling.
>>345222224
Rebels S1+S2 sucked aside from some major episodes.
Anything with Darth vader appearing was fantastic due to the menace that James Earl Blackman still exudes even now.
>I'm not afraid of you!
>Then you will die braver than most.
>>345222758
its about internal consistency
>>345222312
>How much of his backstory can that nigga mine?
Thrawn has no backstory.
>BUT ALL THESE BOOKS--
Never fucking happened.
He needs new, canon backstory.
>>345222716
>She didn't do anything well the entire movie. Everything she did was sloppy and amateur.
And still won because she magically was stronger than a trained swordsman, she also magically knew how to mind-trick someone, something only practiced jedi-knights could do even in the prequels.
>>345222838
What's not consistent?
This trailer alone is more exciting than anything Disney Wars has put out since the acquisition
>>345222716
she flew the Falcon pretty well
>>345217279
the story has gone full retard so I'm not too upset over that
>>345222816
The season finale of S2 stands up there with the absolute best of the entirety of the Clone Wars series.
>>345222838
And I'm saying it IS internally consistent. The force has always been feelsy bullshit magic. And Disney is now calling the shots on everything anyway, including what is internally consistent in Star Wars
>>345222906
If anything this is the part I don't buy, but Ren had been shot by a bow caster, and again, the force runs on feelsy bullshit plot rules. She won because she was the good guy, and the good force is stronger than the bad force
>Darth Maul working with the Rebel
>Grand Admiral Thrawn
>Light Side and Dark Side of the force becoming one
>Grey force
>>345218798
since he's an alien can't they just hand wave it and say he ages slowly?
>>345223145
but Luke only beat Vader because he used the bad force
>>345222856
This
Much of Thrawn back story relates to the Vong, and the Chiss' and Empires early attempts to prepare for their invasion. With no Vong, vast parts of the back story need to be rewritten
>>345223145
The mind trick is the one thing that doesn't make sense to me and pisses me off the most.
Could she overpower a shot in the gut kylo? Yes, with force magic and emotional shite she can clearly do whatever, but a mind-trick requires knowledge that such a technique works. It was literally thrown in for a nod to the source material and makes NO SENSE. Brute force like throwing and pulling is easy and instinctual.
>>345222906
>magically stronger
No. Kylo wasn't trying to kill her, or she would have been dead. He was injured from a bow caster shot and bleeding profusely the entire time, right after fully embracing the dark side and killing his father, which is an emotionally disturbing ordeal even for a dark side user. His shoulder had been injured by Finn as well.
>magically
It's called the Force, and it fills people who use it with magical powers that makes them seem magical. This isn't fucking new.
>knew how to mind trick someone
The. FORCE. She doesn't need to be taught ANYTHING. The Force awakened. She inherently knows it all, but she cannot remember, it is locked away. Plus it took her THREE TRIES ON A TROOPER!
>>345214238
Thrawn hasn't been raped by Disney yet. TIME TO CHANGE THAT.
>>345223332
That I'll give you. That was wierd and the only way to chalk it up is the force was working through her
>>345223353
>The. FORCE. She doesn't need to be taught ANYTHING.
Meanwhile Luke spent months learning how to lift a single rock with Yoda
So bullshit.
>>345222758
I accept the lightsaber shit. They'll explain it later, but I just don't like how they introduce something and then offer no backstory beyond 'I'll tell you later."
The R2 shit is what bugs me. It reactivated for what reason? The only theory that makes sense is because Rey is related to Luke, but droids don't feel the Force, no? They can be affected by it but not feel it. So what gives? Any explanation will feel cheap to me, but not as bad just not having a reason for it beyond because it suited the story.
>>345223353
>>knew how to mind trick someone
>The. FORCE. She doesn't need to be taught ANYTHING. The Force awakened. She inherently knows it all, but she cannot remember, it is locked away. Plus it took her THREE TRIES ON A TROOPER!
Fuck off with your autistic head-canon. Its clear she doesn't know everything about the force.
>>345223264
Technically yes, but the Chiss are too near-human to really get something like that.
>>345223353
>she inherently knows it all
>he says as a reason she's not a mary sue
So /v/.
Where do you know Thrawn from?
The books? Tie-Fighter? Or maybe EaW?
>>345223485
Shes even more the chosen one-ier than Luke obv
>>345223414
They apparently got Zahn to do it though so I'm cautiously optimistic
>>345221121
1.The helmet should not exist and the little cunt should be told from MULTIPLE FUCKING SOURCES INCLUDING DARTH FUCKING VADER HIMSELF that he's a fucking retard.
2.All of that canon has been thrown the fuck out and at no point has any current canon shown DA FORCE giving people visions through light sabers. Espescially specific visions.
3.Activating her bloodline? Fucking Darth Vader is apparently a virgin birth of the force and he got his shit slapped constantly. And she fucking has no bloodline anything. The whole her being lukes daughter or kylo's twin sister or whatever thing is just bullshit that disney shills are floating on the net to make the movie less fucking stupid.
No one has even addressed the fact that she decided to go all fucking old school laura croft to escape death star 3.0 stupid edition instead of using her mind rape powers to get her a storm trooper uniform and escape in a ship. Bonus points they could have had her be the one to save old man ford, shaggy and the generic disney prince #1234asdgasdg bbc edition for bonus GURL POWAH points.
She is not the new luke, no matter how much the wish it were true. They got some of the story beats right but they completely screwed up the execution and she does not have the same feel. We don't care about her growth and at no point fear for her life or her limbs. She's litterally the ubiquitous invincible female character that has no struggles, no troubles, no problems, and breezes through everything.
One look at how much of an annoying cunt finn is and how he's out of his depth and broing it up with the forced poe character and how that shitty character has the funniest joke in the movie with the little robot and you see him being the new luke.
Problem is that he's a negro and he's honestly there to be make rey look like a better choice as the new face of star wars.
>>345221216
The force concept was changed to go along with the plot. It's also way too much like the star trek movies.
>>345223170
>Darth Maul working with the Rebel
He's doing his own thing, same as in Clone Wars. The main cast won't cooperate with him after what happened last season.
>>345223170
>Darth Maul working with the Rebel
You know nothing. Literally nothing. And are judging based on it.
>>345223559
all of the above. Luckily I was a kid during the best era of the EU and games, right before it went completely off the rails
>>345223485
The Force did not awaken with Luke. Plus we knew everything about him. We know shit and dick about Rey's past.
>Shitty side story character appearing.
Oh wait, this is Rebels anyways, which no one cares about.
>>345223601
if the Ep VIII story leaks are accurate (and who fucking knows on that) you have no idea how right you are.
Just wait. You thought Lucas shat on the universe with the prequels?
>>345223524
She was likely taught by Jedi as a child before being dropped off on Jakku.
>>345221413
she's going to get mauled by ezra
>>345223529
That's not what Mary sue even means. You cannot be a Mary sue until your story is over.
>>345216242
And a lot more bad ones with them
>>345223170
>Light Side and Dark Side of the force becoming one
>Grey force
We Kotor 2 now?
>>345223942
>>345223353
>>345223529
>>345222906
>>345222716
>>345221787
>Luke: "You have a rare talent, Rey. Psycometry, the ability to absorb and channel the skills of an object's previous owner while you're in contact with that object."
>Rey: "So that's why flying the Falcon felt so natural ... And why I was able to beat Kylo Ren in a duel!"
>Mark Hammil looks over Rey's shoulder and directly into the camera
>"Yes. That's why."
>>345223993
why not? Disney's stolen all their other ideas, what's one more?
>>345223951
true but you cant win them all
>>345223559
Books for me.
I kind of want to re-read them now but I'm afraid that they'll feel so dumb and silly that i just can't bring myself to kill the good memories.
You guys can accuse people of sperg all you want, but TFA is a shitty cash grab.
>the animations for season 3 don't look wooden as fuck.
Sure they aren't on the level of later seasons of TCW but they are improving. Thank God.
>>345216242
>>345223951
>Disney saved Sev by making him and his squad canon but the Republic Commando is not canon now
>>345214238
Looks like Rebels is finally going to start getting good. Glad I didn't give up on it I guess, if I would have seen one more Stormtrooper get shot only to roll around the ground and not die I'd have dropped it. All the kids shit in it was really pissing me off, I know CW did shit like that too early on and progressively got more violent and dark but at least they didn't shy away from clones getting killed. The Empire is written off as being mustache twirling villains in Rebels and they still couldn't fucking show them die? Meanwhile they blew up TIEs like it was going out of style. I guess suggested violence is easier to get away with than actually brutally murdering Stormtroopers on camera.
>>345223942
within the context of Episode VII, which is the only context we have, she's a Mary Sue
She's instantly competent at everything she tries, everyone instantly likes and trusts her except for the villain, who is jealous of her, and the only time she fails, it's treated as an adorable mishap.
>>345224221
This is100% how American censorship works yes. Violence to vehicles and robots is ok, not chopping up people. Expect most of the enemies to be robots.
>>345223170
>Maul working with the rebel
He is trying to turn Ezra, pretty much no one on the rebel crew like him but they kind of have to put up with his shit.
>Light side and dark side becoming one
So? I like it, better than the typical bad guy/good guy shit.
>>345223559
TIE Fighter originally, but I did eventually read the books.
>>345223264
Chiss are literally just humans that evolved in a harsh environment, why would they live for a long time?
>>345224218
oh yeah, that
>star wars lore
headaches all round
>>345223613
Why wouldn't the helmet exist? It got burned, not melted down for parts.
The force gave Luke visions through a cave. A lightsaber isn't a stretch.
She's Luke's daughter. She's like ten years younger than Emo Ren so there's no way they could be twins.
>>345223613
1: There's literally no reason for the helmet to not exist
2: It has not been thrown out. It is legends. That means it still influences the canon and parts can easily be re introduced. Indeed the Force giving knowledge and visions is nothing new in the canon either. It happens in TCW.
3: Anakin got his shit slapped because he refused to embrace his destiny of taking over keeping the brother and sister in balance. Everything is his fault. We know nothing of Rey. She very well could be a Skywalker. There's no reason to change the theme of the storit's. They're all familial tales based on a Sykwalker.
Rey didn't breeze through anything. Her entire life up until meeting BB-8 and Finn was a struggle. Her entire journey through TFA was a sloppy shitshow.
>>345224480
because if they don't we're never getting a thrawn movie
>>345224357
You literally see Ezra cut a Stormtrooper down with his lightsaber in the trailer.
>>345224107
She's been around the Falcon, she had intimate knowledge about the mods fat guy made to it. She mentions flying in-atmosphere after they escape Jakku.
>>345224580
thats why they have helmets
>Thrawn confirmed
>Rebels steals all the attention away from Roque One
But to be fair. Roque One got plenty of shit before and barely anyone is hyped for it to begin with.
>>345224580
I haven't watched a single ep of Rebels, I will continue not watching until I know that he or the other trainee jedi get corrupted
>>345221580
At no point has it ever been shown to have light sabers do that.
Fucking Luke was given Vaders sword and he felt fuck all.
The cave is a place, a place where the force is the light sabers are things. Them having personalities and calling to specific people is fucking stupid "YOU ARE THE ONE" bullshit that breaks canon.
2.It does not make fucking sense. You don't automagically go from just finding out boxing is a thing to good enough at fighting to take on a golden gloves boxer because he's a fucking autist with severe personality problems.
That's fucking stupid and makes no sense.
And THERE IS NOTHING TO DIG UP!
Vader was FUCKING BURNED and the Ewok homeworld became a smoldering radioactive ruin where no one with any sense will ever go.
>>345221787
All characters have the potential to be interesting in the first few moments of their introduction. They dropped the ball and now they can't do a goddamned thing with her, their supposed big bad villian, luke, leia or the fucking force itself. They can't even do anything with fucking chewbacca because he's now for some god forsaken reason rey's co-pilot.
And finn would have been good if he were another character entirely. His entire background means that he should be some kind of cross between kurt russels character from soldier and a clone trooper from the tart clone wars.
As it stands he should have been a conman or smuggler and bastard child of calrissian who's hanging out with oldman solo and chewie.
>>345224615
>>345223559
Found the Thrawn's Revenge 2 mod for Sins then read all the books about him because holy shit that is the best Star Wars game in over 10 years.
>>345224685
>the Ewok homeworld became a smoldering radioactive ruin where no one with any sense will ever go
no it didn't
>>345224357
But they did it in CW all the time. In fact I even recall Ahsoka decapitating like 4 people at once. Yeah cutting up droids is easier to slide than cutting up people, but in Rebels they literally shoot Stormtroopers and they just get blasted and roll around. In CW clones bit it by the thousand, getting blown up, cut apart, shot, etc. and all they had to do was start putting up a warning before every episode.
Rebels is definitely going to get darker judging by the trailer and also Ezra is probably going to turn, but that doesn't change the fact that the first season is rage inducing with the kitty shit and the second season is barely any better. Hopefully the third season is like the 4th season of CW and finally marks the point of it getting really good.
>>345224670
>I haven't watched a single ep of Rebels,
>LITERALLY complaining about shows you don't watch
>>345224265
You didn't watch the same movie.
She's incredibly incompetent, sloppy and childish with every act she makes. Everything is undisciplined and unfocused, requiring luck and multiple attempts before it works. She can't fly without smashing into shit and wobbling like a child. She can't shoot without missing first, she can't use the force without trying multiple times, she can't fight without losing first.
There's only about 5 people she meets throughout the film. Of course most will like her, there's not much about her as a person to dislike.
>>345224685
>Ewok homeworld became a smoldering radioactive ruin where no one with any sense will ever go.
Again, no it did not.
Feel free to look this up on the CANON page for Endor.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Endor
>>345222716
Yes you retard. They can be.
Not giving them a background/mysterious background is a cheap and obvious way to later handwaive away shit that people do not like with "backstory" later.
And she did EVERYTHING well in the movie. EVERYTHING!.
At no point was she ever in any real danger or need help.
>>345223559
Where was Thrawn in EaW?
>>345224814
welcome to /v/, where we shit on things we've never actually tried
>>345224808
>now this is podracing.webm
>>345215520
>you can call me wedge
kek,
Also, looks good.
>>345224907
He appears in the addon as a character in the story mode with his own Star Destroyer.
>>345222927
A ship that in every single canon NEEDS two fucking pilots to even get off the ground!!
>>345224685
The lightsaber isn't calling to her, the force is calling to her through the saber. You really don't know shit about Star Wars.
>>345224907
the expansion
>>345220904
honorary aryans*
dumb fuck doesn't evne know shit. it's a title for complacency. once hitler mowed down the allies, he would turn on japan.
>>345224907
in the expansion. I recall him snarking at me then jumping out.
>>345224998
She even mentions needing a copilot in the movie.
>>345224995
>>345225024
Forces of Corruption? No way, I didn't know that. I actually just got EaW during the summer sale because I was dying for something Star Wars I haven't played yet, I'll have to try and get him. I'm only like an hour in though.
>>345221325
>Disney stacked the deck
A fucking December release is stacking the deck? Lol.
Explain how you've reached the conclusion swag sales are dismal. Star Wars as a franchise has been revived in people's minds. I mean just on my facebook and tumblr Star Wars is hyped like never before. The Star Wars brand is on everything. Hell, the Blu Ray release was fucking unbelievable, I happened to be in a Target the day it came out and it was completely picked over. I know this is anecdotal, I just can't wrap my head around it.
Rey is one character. I have seen nothing but love for Finn and Poe, and of course Han and Chewie , but just on new characters alone the film adds serious weight to the franchise.
The series is only going to get bigger from here. They're splitting decades worth of backstory across multiple directors. That's why we don't know how much of the EU is in use yet, but honestly, you faggots are holding onto the past in a bad bad way.
Rey is a generic character, but you people are holding the EU up to some unbelievable level that it was never at. The star wars EU is some of the absolute worst sci fi garbage in existence. It has been the fucking White Castle burger of ltierature. Made ppopular by a movie but ultimately bite sized shit.
>>345223613
>2.All of that canon has been thrown the fuck out and at no point has any current canon shown DA FORCE giving people visions through light sabers. Espescially specific visions.
You know there's a Jedi with a power very similar to it, right?
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Psychometry
>>345223145
Just because magic exists doesn't mean all bets are off.
It's bad writing.
>>345223332
Sorry, kylo getting gut shot(but not exploding for some retarded reason) means fuck all. If anything the clean stomach wound(but not massive whole in his torso) that he was slapping at to give him extra darkside power made him stronger.
She won because stupid bullshit.
Secondly, throwing and pulling with the force is something you have to spend years training for.
Even Darth vader couldn't do that shit without training and the force itself was his daddy.
>>345225302
>White Castle burger of ltierature
I'll be using that from now on.
>>345224904
Holy shit I'm so tired of seeing this stupid shit.
Her story is not finished. By definition, she cannot be a Mary sue, because we don't have the rest of her story to look at.
She did NOTHING well in the movie. WATCH IT.
Actually watch the movie, and notice EVERYTHING she attempts takes MULTIPLE tries. It is ALWAYS sloppy and ridiculous.
She crashes into 40 things before taking off in the Falcon. She flies like a wobbly brick and maneuvers like a child learning in a similator. She only came out ahead because she had terrain knowledge (gigantic tactical advantage) and the Force guiding it's new champion.
She got her ass pushed in by a heavily injured and tired Kylo Ren, until she finally gave in and used the Force.
She couldn't even fire a blaster FFS.
>>345224884
you can make that argument with some validity but that doesnt change the fact that she does all those things
no other character in the movie is a versatile as she is
she speaks every language, repairs everything and is an expert pilot and fighter
granted the Force would help alot with some of it, but her mary sue count remains high
>>345215520
The live reaction was pretty good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=priegK1D_lU
>>345225460
>By definition, she cannot be a Mary sue
Yes she can.
>She did NOTHING well in the movie.
Yes, she did.
>She couldn't even fire a blaster FFS.
She misses once, and then never again.
>>345225545
Fuck off MRA
>>345214238
>Guess who is canon in Star Wars now.
A shitty Disney version of Thrawn?
There is dead franchise called Star Wars and then there is Brand™ New™ Disney™ Star Wars™. EU is canon, this money milking cash cow abomination which is kept alive by CPR is definitely not Star Wars. Be good goyim then and support this shit but don't fucking call this shit "Star Wars".
>>345216242
Don't you worry, Disney will bring back certain good ones just cause.
I do think it was kind of sad how all the work the people put in, good or bad, was invalidated by Disney.
>>345225592
now we're ironic shitposting.
i hope
>>345225592
Give a little credit; she does only miss with the blaster once and then every hit afterwards is accurate. The rest is bullshit.
>>345225302
the problem with the EU was always its size
for every good story there was a freighterload of bad ones
>fat and skinny imperial officers killed off
>hat lady killed off
>inquisitor killed off
>inquisitor squad killed off
They were the only characters i actually liked though
Also have they touched upon the rebels killing people just trying to do their jobs yet?
>>345225514
>30 year old virgin neckbeards get off to a blue man on TV
>>345225714
The entire EU was fan-fic tier trash. Thrawn was the biggest Mary Sue of all time. Disney should have left him dead.
>>345222716
>>345225460
>>345225592
>Literally white knighting a FICTIONAL woman
>>345225779
But this was in Yurop. It's 30 year old chavs with their shitty 5 children getting off to a blue man on TV.
>>345225748
>Also have they touched upon the rebels killing people just trying to do their jobs yet?
Of course not
>>345225845
>implying Luke had any character development in ANH
>implying Vader had any until ROTJ
>>345225353
>Sorry, kylo getting shot means fuck all
Not who you're talking to, but the movie goes a long way towards showing how wrong you are on this. They set up the bowcaster as powerful enough to complete remove foes with explosive force. Kylo no sells a direct shot and we clearly see it wound him. The film repeatedly shows him limping and in pain, it even close ups on his blood in the snow. The novelization goes a step further when talking about the wound. Nowhere does it say this makes him stronger, but we see him visibly weakened by this.
All the media surrounding kylo so far supports that he is not a master dueler, he is still a student who never finished training. He can't even properly make his own lightsaber, that's why its power fluctuates. Rey is the forces new chosen vessel, she finally lets it in and it guides her to victory. A Phantom Menace has Anakin use the force to win multiple times by itself, Luke starts deflecting shots the day he picks a sword up.
You're being fucking ridiculous, lad.
>>345225779
Blue Man Group is pretty popular everywhere
>>345225460
after the wobbly takeoff, she's literally out-flying trained pilots in ships that are far more maneuvarable
it's like a commerical airliner outflying F-15s
>>345225503
>expert fighter and pilot
Nah, she's amateur and shitty. Did you even see the movie?
Luke is more versatile. Han is more versatile.
She understands languages, whoopee doo. Every Jedi always has a specific trait they're are inherently better at within the Force than others. Some are stronger in manipulating minds, some get visions and information from objects, some can rip knowledge, memories and experience from the minds of others, some can enhance their physical capabilities much more than others, some are more resistant to influence than others, etc.
Do some research into the lore. Rey is hardly a Mary sue, compared to almost any character.
>>345225832
>The entire EU was fan-fic tier trash.
t. Person who never read the EU
>>345225995
>being THIS fucking butthurt about being wrong
dude, know your battles
its time to drop it
>>345225929
>The retards that always say Luke is just as much of a Mary Sue
When did Luke fly the falcon?
What was Luke's % accuracy with a blaster?
How well did Luke use a Lightsaber the first time?
How did Luke's first duel go?
How many times did Rey need to be rescued? How many times did Luke?
How adept was Luke with the force in 4 AND 5?
How adept was Rey with the force?
>>345225929
>Luke starts as a whiny kid
>stops being a whiny kid
>Vader starts as being FUCKING PISSED ALL THE TIME and is easily irritated
>goes to being bantz master supreme
Star wars had really neat robots
That is all
>>345225545
No she cannot, her story is not complete. In order to be a Mary sue, you have to be great at everything and never fail. She has two more movies in which she WILL fail and thus also fail to fit the definition of a Mary sue. Her story is not over, it's still unfolding.
She did nothing well in the movie. It was all sloppy and undisciplined.
She actually misses a lot.
>>345226117
Fuck off you toxic shitlord. You LITERALLY only hate her because you're a bitter sexist virgin.
>>345214238
>not like any of you played Empire at War
is that just some random elitism you decided to throw in?
/v/ talks a decent bit about how half of empire at war was great.
>>345226172
also pretty girls :3
>>345214238
>Empire at war
Nice bait.
That said, meh on the news. I don't really care if the EU stuff is canon in the new star wars canon. The new content is never gonna measure up to the old stuff.
>>345224504
Burning stuff tends to fucking melt them, and I'm pretty goddamned sure luke would have kept burning till the helmet was a fucking puddle or smashed it with a rock. Even if he didn't want it destroyed, he wouldn't have fucking left it there with the fucking ewoks. He'd throw that bitch into the sun. Because apparently the force talks to people through things and he'd not want something like that lying around.
Then why didn't vaders sword call out to look or give him visions?
Head canon.
Head canon
Head canon.
>>345224530
1.See above. Plus ENDOR WAS DESTROYED!
2.Nope, all of that shit is thrown out. Plus..show me where light sabers had force based consciousnesses. That they could influence people or call out to them.
3.Shut up with that stupid bullshit you faggot. Rey ran from her destiny and this bitch was pulling off jedi master level shit by instinct. She should have NO skill with a light saber and not know how to do jack fucking shit.
That brother and sister force side bullshit was well after he got his shit slapped by count dooku and well after he was trained well enough to be a jedi knight.
Rey shouldn't have been able to do jack shit. At best pull off some low level clairovoiyance.
She breezed through every single goddamnend thing and I honestly want you to tell me where she was everin any real danger or needed anyone or anything. Hell, tell me.
Why does she even need to go see luke? She's already further along then luke was in the entire goddamned OT. The fuck can he teach her?
Bitch can read the past of things just by touching them.
>>345217112
>>345217279
>Outrider
When is it shown? I can't seem to find it
>>345226026
See >>345225302
Star Wars EU is the fucking white castle of Literature. Popular because of a movie but bite sized pieces of shit. The vast majority of Star Wars EU is fucking garbage, the worst literature ever fucking made. There are people who make their living mocking how bad the Star Wars EU is.
People hail Thrawn as the best of the EU. It's still fucking trash. Palpatine did it all not for the lulz but because of a greater threat: space locusts. Oh and he turns Luke to the dark side and possesses a baby because he's so fucking hardcore.
>>345226210
Individual works have to hold on their own merits. A film's story, even if it is part of a series of stories, can still be judged on its own content. TFA gets absolutely no passes from me because it's going to have sequels. ANH stands on its own, so should TFA, but it does not.
Rey is a Mary Sue until proven otherwise, and in the context of TFA alone, she will ALWYAS be a Mary Sue.
Deal with it.
>>345226297
>carrie fisher
lolfugginno
>>345226443
>Rey is a Mary Sue until proven otherwise, and in the context of TFA alone, she will ALWYAS be a Mary Sue.
She is a Mary Sue because you are a sexist idiot. There are thousands of movies with males that can do everything. And nobody complains. How is life that you are so insecure that a shitty fantasy movie makes you feel bad?
>>345226297
she is probably on about 10 pounds of cocaine in that picture
Tbqh autists being triggered from new star wars media is my favorite part about new star wars
>>345226438
>People hail Thrawn as the best of the EU. It's still fucking trash. Palpatine did it all not for the lulz but because of a greater threat: space locusts. Oh and he turns Luke to the dark side and possesses a baby because he's so fucking hardcore.
All you're really doing is proving to me that you never read the EU and are paroting opinions because you think it makes you fit in.
>>345215003
Most of the other imperial officers didn't like Thrawn and were against the emperor making him a grand admiral. But thrawn proved himself and they couldn't say shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puvD_FDS_jE
i dunno who's ironic shitposting who anymore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EI8YxV0u2U
star wars stream for the video game talk
they cut off the mark hamill cam for this shit
thanks ea
>>345225929
>adventurous kid that is selfish as hell, doesn't think much of his aunt or uncle, just wants to be a professional pilot
>Thinks Ben is an old fool more or less
>Turns to selfish ambitions to join the rebels, not out of a sense to do good, but out of a sense to just be cool
>connects with Ben on a personal level, we can see them actually become good friends throughout the movie
>when Ben's death hits him he actually feels emotionally hurt by it (as opposed to Han's death, which hit the audience more than the character due to nostalgia, very poor film making there), and we as the audience can see that
>realizes that there is a grander purpose for him, and that he needs to be selfless, sacrificing himself for the good of the rebel cause
>trusts in himself and the world around him with the whole "use the force" scene rather than taking the easy way that he wanted to take through the movie (the easy way is represented by the targeting computer)
Luke goes through a LOT of character development.
Rey goes through little to none.
>>345226520
>How is life that you are so insecure that a shitty fantasy movie makes you feel bad?
It's balanced by knowing there are even sadder people than me who defend badly-written fictional women on a czechoslovakian mudcake-picture forum.
>>345226520
Go back to tumblr
She's a Mary Sue in the same way Starkiller is a mary sue in TFA games.
>>345214238
I played Empire at War, I own three copies of it
>>345226648
business as usual then
>>345226409
At around 1:08
>>345214238
>eyes aren't a blank, irisless red.
Shame desu also EaW was shit outside of space battles, making it the inverse of Battlefront 2
>>345226126
From my point of view, the jedi are evil!
>>345226815
Sweet, thanks
>Chosen one in a fantasy story is overly capable
SURELY NOT
>>345226117
I can play this game
Never
Higher then Han's. Probably like 70-80%
Very well considering he is practicing block blaster bolts at close range which is harder then blocking a saber by an opponent
Pretty well considering he was fighting a Dark Lord of the Sith, one of the most powerful force users in the galaxy, with completed Jedi AND Sith training and DECADES of experience. (and Vader wasnt injured)
Luke needed for sure once, in ANH. Rey needed help to escape Starkiller base
Very strong considering we saw him use it to destroy the DS and block blaster bolts he couldnt see
Very Strong also considering she moved a lightsaber and resisted Kylo's mindreading.
>>345226578
This, same with the new ghostbusters.
I personally bought 10 tickets just to spite these autists.
>>345226820
>>345216860
My guess is he'll have a lot of screen time so they'll want to make him more expressive in animation (thus the pupils).
>>345220909
>>345223613
>>345226389
>>345226950
>(and Vader wasnt injured)
>>345214238
>pupils
DROPPED
>>345226993
that doesn't make any sense
Vader doesn't have pupils
his fucking face doesn't even move
>>345226117
>What was Luke's % accuracy with a blaster?
... You know, thinking about this, for a guy who claimed to shoot womp rats for a hobby from his t-16, his accuracy with a normal blaster kind of sucked. I don't think he managed to hit a single fucking storm trooper or anyone in the whole movie, even when there was a large group of them tightly formed up together.
Geez, and people criticize storm troopers.
>>345226438
>Star Wars EU is the fucking white castle of Literature.
No one looks at things like this after highschool, figure it out.
The three main thrawn books by Zahn are great, fit perfectly into the star wars universe alongside the first 6 movies.
>>345226993
Eh, I can buy that but it's still bleh.
>tfw i'd stream TIE Fighter if i knew if it would capture it and would work
>>345226941
Thrawn is strangely overrated, he's a complete shitter in the trilogy who gets one-upped by the heroes at every opportunity and gets stabbed by his own servant. The author even points this out.
>>345227173
presumably it's a lot easier with a joystick and targeting reticle than just eyeballing it
>>345227173
Womp rats don't shoot back. Gunfights are scary. We can't all be Han and Leia.
>>345215520
Pretty cool trailer tbqh. Feels like a turning point in the show. Time skip and everything.
>>345223089
It always has been, that doesn't excuse you being ignorant of large portion of the content.
>>345226389
Frankly I dont care about your guys debate and I havnt been reading it but this caught my attention
> ENDOR WAS DESTROYED!
No it wasnt. I challenge you to find a single star wars source in Legends or NuCanon that said Endor was destroyed. Heads up, you wont find it because Star Wars always claimed it wasnt destroyed.
In Legends its because the Rebellion went in immediate "lick our wounds" mode and took wreckage of the Death Star to repair battle damage to their capital ships. (This is mentioned in "Truce at Bakura")
>>345227314
>not mr and mrs sith
>>345227308
>>345227340
True enough.
Still funny when you think about it.
>>345227530
Oh you got me
good one
>>345227173
Re-watch the movie. He kills more stormtroopers with a higher accuracy then even Han does.
>>345226950
>Never
Exactly, that's the point. Because only Han and Chewy (and Lando) know how to fly the thing because it flies so differently
>Higher than Han's
>70-80%
Go rewatch the movie
Again though, much lower than Rey's
>very well
He gets hit by several shots. Only manages to block a couple by doing a very basic force technique that even younglings know how to do.
>Pretty well
Vader toyed with him the entire time, go watch the movie again. Vader is trying in Return, but in Empire he's just lightly swatting away every single one of Luke's attacks. Luke doesn't manage shit on him, while Rey beat Luke's star pupil.
>for sure once
Hmmm
>rescued by Obi-wan from sand people
>rescued by Han in the cantina
>rescued by obi-wan again in the falcon
>rescued by Leia in the death star
>rescued by c3po in the trash compartment
>rescued by Han again in the death star run
He almost died 6 fucking times. Rey didn't need any help the whole movie.
>very strong
Both are literally youngling techniques you tard.
>very strong
Yes, she was very strong in ONE movie, unlike Luke who didn't become adept until his third movie.
>>345226993
Nah, lack of pupils is too spooky for kids.
>>345227629
Holy shit all this sexism.
>>>/pol/
>>345227314
>Maul is confused by lightsaber lick
outstanding
>>345227284
Thrawn wins in all his battles but 1 in which he only loses because Lando just happened to be the battle, something Thrawn could never have predicted.
Even then they point out Thrawn could have won the battle but he ordered a retreat because he saw that launching a full assault would be a phyric victory.
>>345215520
God damn, the introduction for thrawn there is exactly like the thrawn trilogy.
>>345225023
That does not fucking happen.
The force calls to people DIRECTLY not through items.
It's supposedly everywhere and in everything.
The lightsaber itself called to her and it gave her visions.
>>345225169
And yet. She flew it.
>>345225302
Are you fucking retarded?
Do you not know how a major movie company can stack the deck in the favor of their movie? How they bought litterally every goddamned major movie house on the planet and even kicked tarantino out of some places to show TFA?
How everyone was either paid off or too terrified to say the movie was shit.
The millions spent on pr alone?
Secondly, the brand being everywhere doesn't mean it's being bought.
Even the Lego TFA game is seeing no interest and the shitty prequel Star Wars games flew off the shelves.
>>345225330
There's also a jedi who has the ability shit lead and one who's powerful enough to pull a star destroyer out of orbit. Doesnt' mean every jedi should be able to do it.
It's a gift specific to that one person.
It's bad fucking writing.
>>345225946
1.The bow caster explodes people. He should have a gaping fucking hole in his torso where his organs used to be. Not a clean and neat little hole that drips out a bit of blood.
Christ they should have blown off his goddamned arm it would have made more sense and did all of that pottery that jj abrams fails at.
And KYLO WIPED OUT THE OTHER FUCKING JEDI if this weren't the fucking case, if it wasn't canon that this cunt is supposedly broken powerful in the force then the fight between him and finn and rey should have just been a 5 second long murder scene.
This is stupid.
>>345226210
Within context of the movie, she is a 100% mary sue. And for all intents and pourposes, her story is complete.
She can not grow as a person along side the force. The trials she should have overcome to even be able to do low level shit have been breezed through with fuck all in the way of character growth to show for it.
>>345215520
Wait, is that maul?
I knew he apparently showed up in season 2, but he's still kicking?
