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How could it have been saved, /v/?
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>>345186765
>only one screen
>make it 720p
>bottom half is just buttons
>2 joysticks
done
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>>345186956
So a phone?
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lower price on launch
two analog sticks
better hardware, the display in particular
more games
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>>345187019
Does your phone have joysticks?
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>>345187145
With an attachment obviously.
My understanding is your saying Nintendo should give up on gimmicks.
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>>345186956
>>only one screen
Why would Nintendo go backwards?

Tell me why one screen is better than two screens.
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>>345186765
>
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>>345187230
They should have kept going, three screens at 240p would help.
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>>345187230
it's fucking common sense
FUCK

FUCK GIMMICKS
>DUDE 2 SCREENS
>WAIT DUDE
>ADD 3D TOO DUDE
>LMAO
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>>345187268
You realize the 3DS has ass resolution because the screen is 3D. Being dual screen had nothing to do with it.

>>345187273
Yeah and tell me why two screens are bad?
It's a handheld game. I don't want HUD shit all over the tiny screen blocking the view
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>>345187398
>You realize the 3DS has ass resolution because the screen is 3D. Being dual screen had nothing to do with it.
So not one without the other? Was it really needed?
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>>345187398
>Yeah and tell me why two screens

lets see
>increased battery use
>need to look at two things at once
>higher chance of one of them breaking

fuck you
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>>345187542
While I have no idea if this applies to the 3DS, the DS also had a fault to where it could only feasibly render 3D on a single screen at a time.

There was a disparity between the two screens a majority of the time with one being relegated to seemingly "quality of life" design choices.
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>>345187237
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>>345187769
lmao
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>>345187398
>tiny screen
lel
have you even tried a vita? you look so uneducated
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>>345187237

how can we save it from being successful?
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>>345187616
Also this behavior seems to have become standard practice regardless of if this limitation still exists.

As per >>345187398
>I don't want HUD shit all over the tiny screen blocking the view
This is a design choice given the variables they work with, not an actual advantage of the two screens.

I've seen people rag on Virtue's Last Reward on the Vita for being "cluttered" despite not actually being.
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>>345187184
>With an attachment obviously.
wat a massive fucking cop out
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>>345188184
We're getting there, maybe one day.
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>>345188143
>960x544
DELETE THIS
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>>345188143
Meanwhile.

How can single screen faggots compete?
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>>345188495
Jesus, no wonder they never share games. How embarrassing.
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>>345188495
>Giant retard button taking up a majority of the bottom screen
Guess Phoenix Wright was unplayable in the GBA iterations too.
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>>345188495
WOW
IT'S LIKE YOU COULDN'T JUST BIND PLAY, STOP, LOG, SAVE, FLOW, MEMO, AND ARCH, INTO THE 12 BUTTONS ON YOUR HANDHELD?

OHH.... WAIT...
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>>345188789
Or similar to the Vita version, tuck them away in a menu.
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>>345187769
KEK
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>>345187769
>Wait, why is the Dreamcast missing?
>OH FUCK NOT AGAIN
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>>345187237
Wtf are people even playing on PS4? 2 games?
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>>345189368
Fine.
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>>345189373
Watching youtube LPs of Mario games.
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>>345189373
really makes you think
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>>345186765
Games
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>>345189648
It's only placed that low because of all the casual shooters like Payday 2
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>>345189373
They aren't playing with it.
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>>345190151
>mario on wheels
>new super duper mario ultra wii own u(r) wallet
>the other half of the new smash bros
>shovelware
>game
>hyper ultra wiffle waffle mega mario cat edition
>fuck it, we're too lazy, do it yourself mario
>mario dlc
>shovelware
>remake
>post-4 mario party
>game
>yoshi's gimmick world
>please be our season pass guinea pig
>minigame we cashed in on
>worst pikmin by far
>shovelware
>*also on PS4, XBone, and Windows
>game

what a rich library
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>Top and bottom screen same resolution
>No 3D
>Dual analogs

Would have helped it a lot in its early days.
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>>345190326
>A majority of a consoles top sellers are from the same company supporting it
Surprise, surprise.
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>>345190481
Dunno, Sony gets away with not doing it and you don't see anybody complaining.
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The 2ds is a single screen device
Putting covering part of it with the shell doesn't make it better
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>>345190556
They still felt the need to emulate the two screen idea
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>>345190481
nope, just nintendo
only one of the three that actively drives away third parties, unless it's capcom fellating them with system sellers
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>>345186765
More good games. It's been pretty successful otherwise. Better resolution would have been nice, and I think the 3D effect was largely pointless, but I find it difficult to care about hardware wankery. Good games are what matter.

I'm satisfied with mine, but I've mostly used it for GBA games and NES games. My favorite 3DS game is probably Shinobi.
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>>345190667

how do I play GBA games on mine without being a degenerate
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>>345190597
yeah imagine a world where every consumer supported yearly iterations with subtle differences and thought it was worthwhile
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>>345190667
>pretty successful
>worst selling nintendo handheld by far
>least respected
>only defense is maliciously insulting the only other competitor for daring to have third party support
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>>345190771
Implying the Vita would have sold if it had even one game
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>>345190771
>worst selling nintendo handheld by far
>least respected
Worst selling maybe, but not poorly sold.
>only defense is maliciously insulting the only other competitor
Not sure what you're talking about here.
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>>345190597
Why should Nintendo give a fuck about 3rd parties? All 3rd parties do is bitch about how Nintendo's games are the big sellers. So what does Nintendo do for the Wii U? They let 3rd parties take center stage for months after launch and the Wii U went nowhere.
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>been saved

How did it fail? Sure, it may not look the best compared to Vita but it had a fuckload of games I liked, enough that I've sunk hundreds of hours into it. Lots of people I know have one too so there's never lack of multiplayer. eShop support was surprisingly good, especially when compared to Wii U. I've been completely happy with it enough to upgrade when New 3DS came out and my old one was kind broke.
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>>345191002
>Wii U went nowhere.
>due to 3rd parties
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>>345191010
you mean you bought a device intended to break after several years only to repeat your mistake
you're a retard caught in a cycle and you don't even realize it
every single O3DS will lose L/R functionality eventually, unless you pay for repairs or void the warranty and fix it yourself, risking permanent damage
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>>345191010
So you support companies not getting hardware right the first time by buying current-generation revisions?
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>>345191080
>3rd parties whine and whine about Nintendo games overshadowing their releases
>Nintendo releases a console and gives 3rd parties more than enough time to establish themselves
>3rd parties don't take advantage of this
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>>345191146
Even Nintendo couldn't save the deficit.
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>>345191093
I have a 3DS XL and haven't noticed anything with the buttons.
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>>345191186
Enjoy it while it lasts. There are multiple dust entry points.
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>>345191093
No, some nephew broke into my room while hosting a party once and it was never quite the same since. No idea how they got in there, I locked the damn door.

>>345191132
All 3 companies have done revisions of every single console they've made, always. Only reason it hasn't happened to Wii U is it's dead as shit. They fucked up.
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>>345191306
That fractured the userbase though?

>N3DS exclusive
The only saving grace is they didn't take off with it.
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>>345186765
What? It doesn't need saving. It's the #1 handheld in pretty much everything except power.
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>>345191357
It can hardly be called fracturing the userbase when there's literally one game that's N3DS exclusive, or at least I think it's just Xenoblade. Binding of Isaac barely counts, even with the extra power it still runs like shit so no one should buy it.
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>>345191182
Well it didn't help that Nintendo decided to make the games for the Wii U effectively Gamecube games in HD.

Sure, why not put the same type of games that appeared on a flop of a console on your new flop of a console? What could possibly go wrong?
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>>345191508
And what about the addition of additional controls (nipple and extra triggers) and processing power (given, for those exclusives)?
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>>345191543

>GameCube
>A Flop

am I getting memed on
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>>345191634
>>345189474
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>>345191634
>Gamecube
>not a flop

Prior to the Wii U, the Gamecube was Nitnendo's worst-selling home console. It was unequivocally a flop.
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>>345191596
Almost nothing uses the extra triggers and more or less the only game worth using the nipple for is Monster Hunter. Maybe MM3D. No one bought RE: Revelations on 3DS.
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>>345191596
MH generations is still 30 fps
pokemon can't stay stable
the processing power does fucking nothing
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>>345191634
>shit /v/ says
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>>345191634
LOL
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>>345191634
How many games did you own, my brother?

I got my prized Naruto Clash of Ninja 1 and 2 sitting in their boxes on my shelf.
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By adding some sort of PSTV/Super Gameboy/etc. ability to the WiiU so I could play a good library of games on a screen larger than 3 inches with ergonomics worse than a Gameboy.
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>>345188143
I can't imagine ever playing monster hunter on a single screen again.
2 screens is so fucking great, I can put my map, health, lock on, and quick items all on the bottom screen while the top has no shitty UI on it.
And since the screens are right next to each other it takes literally no effort unless you're retarded to look between them, it's not like it's the Wii U.
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N3DS specs at launch.
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>>345192350
When I see posts like this, it makes me glad people as fucking incompetent and retarded as you are confined to wasting your income and life on video games
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>>345192350
too bad you can't put your loading screens on the bottom :^)
>lock on
behold MH players, your new fellow audience
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>>345192350
>2 screens is so great
yeah I sure am fucking glad there's no button for Arts and the 3DS can barely register a finger press
utter moron
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>>345192720
>>345192910
>>345192910
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>>345193047
not an argument
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?
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>>345192910
>the 3DS can barely register a finger press
Use the stylus, retard!
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>>345193291
>have 3 hands
Bravo, retard!
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>>345193401
Sorry, I don't play shit games. Was just suggesting what the stylus was for.
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>>345193491
If you remove your left hand, you lose the ability to move
If you remove your right hand, you lose the ability to attack, evade, and run
There's no feasible way to pull out a stylus mid-fight. Holding it as you play is both uncomfortable and critically slow.
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>>345193621
A single screen would fix that.
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This thread is a piece of work.
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>>345193654
No, but a capacitive screen would.
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>>345193682
still not an argument
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>>345193774
You know what has that? The Vita and shitty phones.

Fuck those, cheap plastic resistive for life.
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>>345193621
who the fuck uses the stylus to use hunter arts or any other touch screen action in MH

literally just slide your thumb over real quick and touch the gigantic icons that take up large chunks of the screen

If you can't do that and keep pressing buttons you might actually be retarded
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>>345193902
>You know what has that? The Vita
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>>345193901
What are you talking about?
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>>345194062
>he admits it
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>>345193983
New to 4chan? Read the chain of replies before responding.
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Can 3DSfags discuss the shortcomings of their system without leaning on their Monster Hunter crutch?
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>>345189373
All the games, actually
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>>345194112
I did, the claim that the 3DS can barely register a finger press is moronic

This whole thread is shitty bait
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>>345194193
>It's not hailing Nintendo as God waaaahhhh
The 3DS is just perfect ain't it?
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>>345194072
Oh, you think I'm the uragaan post. Nice assumption.
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>>345194193
>I did, the claim that the 3DS can barely register a finger press is moronic
>This whole thread is shitty bait

You're right!
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>game on e-shop is 5 dollars
>can only add money in increments of 10, 20, 50, and 100.
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>>345193983
Alternatively, you could just stop playing shitty video game series. That also solves the problem.
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>>345194325
Have you actually bought anything off eShop? There's a button underneath all those you can touch that just gives you the amount of money you need to buy. This isn't PSN.
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>>345194325

>Game is available on both the Wii U and 3DS
>Buying it once doesn't entitle you to both versions even though tons of PSN games do this
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>>345194285
maybe try using different images when you defend your meme game? you know archives exist, right? it's not an assumption
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>>345194325
Or use a card.
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Guys
The N3DS is for homebrew and emulation and people who care about build quality.
That's literally it.
Once you've played DOOM with the left stick on moving and strafing and the right stick on looking, you understand what it is for. Once you've emulated shit and tapped into its quad core 804mhz processor (up from dual core ~300 MHz on the original 3DS) and the double RAM, you'll know why you bought it.
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>>345194384
>There's a button underneath all those you can touch that just gives you the amount of money you need to buy. This isn't PSN.
Pretty sure PSN does this too.
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>>345194542
Actually you're right, what I was remembering is that PSN requires a $5 minimum no matter what you're purchasing. I don't think eShop has that.
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>>345194597
HAH
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>>345194597
And another malicious accusation bites the dust. When will Nintentards learn?
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>>345194656
What?
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>>345194534
PSP is still the king
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>>345195015

Have you emulated a SNES game on PSP recently?
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>>345195103
Have you?
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>>345195015
>333MHz single core MIPS and 32MB RAM is better than 804MHz quad core ARM11 + 256MB RAM
PSP has a very very slightly resolution but I like the 3DS' aspect ratio better
But yeah IMO new 3DS is the first thing ever that has the possibility of dethroning the PSP
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>>345195103
Sorry, I only play good games.
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>>345186765
More power instead of shitty gimmicks. I never turn on the 3D effect and never will. The game catalog is also kinda shit compared to the DS, and that's fucking sad because it's still the best of this generation.
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>>345195180
typical weebshit poster
there has never been a good weebshit game and there never will
go back to 2chan
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>>345195362
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>>345195171
>very very slightly resolution
>downplaying it
>can't even bring himself to type the word
LEL
Nintendo fans literally break down mentally if they have to face reality
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>>345195507

If you're interested in emulating, then a 240p resolution is better than a 272p in 16:9
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>>345195539
>If you're interested in emulating, then a 240p resolution is better than a 272p in 16:9
You can't make this shit up
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>>345195539
No, integer scaling is. But keep lying to yourself retard.
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>>345195698

>Integer scaling.
But a 240p screen means you don't have to scale at all. On the PSP you would be wasting too much of the screen space if you scaled.
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>>345195813
Are you actually retarded?
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>>345186765
it was saved by CFW :^)
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>>345195813

*If you didn't scale.
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>>345195813
you literally have no idea what you're talking about
you're the walmart shopper asking the employee if the human eye can really see above 30 frames
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>>345195539
Just made the shocking revelation:
>16:9 1.7...
>3DS 1.6...
>PSP 1.764~
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With a flashcard like R4 and removing the patching shit that brick them.
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>>345195813
>On the PSP you would be wasting too much of the screen space if you scaled.
And? You're still getting a 240 pixel tall source and maintaining a 1:1 pixel ratio on a "greater than 240 pixel tall" screen.

Your complaint is more suited to the screen size itself, not the wasted pixels, meaning giant pixels are your thing.
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>>345196005
Why not a regular DS then?
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>>345196181

If you're emulating a Genesis game, the framebuffer is 320x224 in size.
If you're emulating it on a 3DS, with a resolution of 400x240, then you're utilising roughly 75% of the screen space.
If you're emulating it on a PSP with a resolution of 480x272, then you're utilising roughly 55% of the screen space.

This is all assuming you're using a 1:1 pixel mapping. Any sort of scaling on those low res displays would make the image look like complete shit though. If you have a screen that roughly corresponds in resolution to what you're rendering then you want to take advantage of an exact correspondence between rendered pixels and displayed pixels to maintain a sharp image.
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>>345196495
And who cares how much screen you're using? You're getting the exact same amount of information (the pixels) in the same presentation.
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>>345196495
oh my christ you complete idiot
that's good for the PSP
it's the EXACT SAME SIZE
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>>345196565

It's better not to play the game with a massive amount of windowboxing. Of course you don't want a smaller, squintier picture.
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>>345195929
I told you not to take this retard seriously, fucking look at him
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>>345196616
>It's better not to play the game with a massive amount of windowboxing.
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>>345196805

>filters
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>>345196884
>shitposts
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>>345195851
Rx tools is great, what a great dev
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>>345196884
That's applied with the overlay, didn't choose it.
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>>345186765
an actual library
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I can't wait till handheld gaming finally dies. It's just a shit heap full of phone-tier minigame spin offs.
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>>345200007

There are more worthy 8th gen handheld games than there are 8th gen console exclusive games
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>>345188227
Why didn't this take off? If only you could play PSP games on it.
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>>345200689

You don't want to play PSP games with those sticks.
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>>345200971
There's tons of PSP games that don't use the joystick.
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