Now that the dust has settled, are you looking forward to Civ VI?
to the complete edition on 75% sale in 5 years? sure I am
Who's leading Rome?
I don't know if it's good yet.
mite b cool
>>345180202
octavian or ceasar probably
>>345180202
Trajan
We know for a fact that its going to be EVEN MORE watered down than Civ 5 was
So no
My hopes for a good Civ game ever being released again have died long ago
>>345179658
I'll get it after its 5 DLCs come out and it's on sale.
>>345182863
I Agree.
I'm also not liking the art style and lack of "incentive" to move on from Civ 5.
>>345179658
I liked civ5, hoping they fix diplomacy and how turns take forever for the ai after turb 300
The artstyle seems fine way less muddy than 5
>>345183438
>way less muddy than 5
Huh?
>>345183581
5's textures are incredibly muddy and units, buildings get lost in all the muddiness.
6 looks clean, i dont care about the artstyle, seems fine, i care about the gameplay and would just like the ai to run faster in the late game
>>345183747
>5's textures are incredibly muddy and units, buildings get lost in all the muddiness.
I don't see that at all. I guess it's a taste thing.
>>345179658
only ifCIV VI Isabella is as cute as CIV V
>>345180202
Emperor Tyrone.
Firaxis is going to expose the white revisionism
I refuse to play another civ game unless they go back to making wide as or more competitive than tall. Tall tradition into rationalism into science victory is pinnacle of boring self touch metas.
WE WANT HUGE EMPIRES WITH CONTESTED BORDERS AND LOTS OF FIGHTING AND HURT FEELINGS!
>>345179658
>Now that the dust has settled
What dust exactly?
>>345184349
The dust from the butthurt over the artstyle
>>345184349
Dust: An Elysian Tale
>>345180224
Will they bite the bullet and give Germany hitler?
>>345184672
Why pander to a tiny community of /pol/fags?
>>345179658
Yes. Looks like they aren't dropping all of the mechanics for once.
>>345184725
You know the only reason they don't put him in is to pander to Germany's Orwellian censorship laws. They have Genghis Khan in every game and he was arguably more evil.
>>345184981
I have to agree with anon here - Genghis Khan, Stalin, and Mao are all okay but somehow Hitler wasn't?
>>345182863
>We know for a fact that its going to be EVEN MORE watered down than Civ 5 was
????
>>345185074
>Khan
>Evil
Do you even /his/ newfag?
>>345184981
This is true; they said they've /wanted/ to include Hitler since Civ IV (where he sort of is in specific versions of the WWII Scenario, as he is in Civ III and II), but can't cause' Germany would throw a hissy fit if he was used as their rep.
I personally want Kaiser Von Willhelm. Enough of this Bismark!
>>345185138
He's just salty because memetler isn't in the game
>>345185565
Dunno senpai wanting to subjugate the entire world and genociding anyone who doesn't immediately surrender is at the very least comparable to Stalin/Hitler's track record.
>>345185647
Learn history faggot and dump your american education it's worthless.
>>345184981
>Single handedly wiped out middle eastern/asian civilization and raped so many women you're probably related to him
>Arguably more evil
>Arguably
Wew.
>>345179658
The biggest problem with the series is the AI. There's no point in carefully balancing your economy if the AI doesn't have to play by the same rules, it's pointless.
>>345185707
>he's getting mad because someone compared his historical husbando to modern day dictators and pointing out the fact that they're not even different
Go shitpost about how "enlightened" the mongols were for not practicing religious persecution in the areas they entirely depopulated, or whatever.
>>345185783
What do you mean ?
>>345186954
Instead of making smarter AI, AI just cheats on higher difficulties.
>>345185728
He was a feminist you faggot
>>345187072
>>345187168
That's a nice gecko
>>345187192
hehas no teeth
>>345185728
>killing and rape is wrong
wow
>>345186954
Your income is supposed to cap the number of military units you can have, have negative income and you'll start losing units. This doesn't apply to the AI, it can have HUGE deficits and keep its military.
I'll probably get it a week after release so I'm aware of any bugs. Its my favourite series and I've played since Civ 2.
>>345184027
dumb /pol/yp
>>345185565
>Do you even /his/ newfag?
More like, "Do you even /JohnGreen/, amirite?"
>>345185592
>Germany would throw a hissy fit if he was used as their rep.
Which is a completely reasonable reaction.
>>345179658
I look forward to the ps4 port
>>345184672
>list shows a German leader who is not Hitler
>will they put in Hitler
m8
>>345180224
I am happy Sumer is back.
>>345180224
>Friedrich Barbarossa
Nope, it will be Friedrich der Große
>>345194037
>Nope
This is a leaked list nigger.
>>345185592
Welhelm the first or second. This is important.
>>345179658
Cant wait to play it on my phone.
Will it be f2p?
>>345194132
A leaked fake list
>>345194332
Leaked because whoever did the video editing on their dev videos didn't spot it. You can even see some of Barbarrosa's artwork to the side in this frame.
>>345194332
You're a fucking retard. This list comes straight from a behind the scenes video.
>>345194559
>>345194443
Fuck this, I am mad as fuck that they don't use Friedrich II.
>>345180224
>22 portraits
>only 18 civs
Great they're already planning DLC.
>>345180224
>no Napoleon
what the fuck is this shit firaxis
>>345180224
>>345194559
Whoever made this list needs to get shot
>>345194753
Not using Napoleon for a 3rd time in a row is alright, but
>Catherine de Medici
>>345194925
It's an interesting choice I'll give it that. And I do think Firiaxis like to be somewhat educational with the games, like picking rulers who are interesting that people haven't really heard of... except for india because Ghandi meme.
But more seriously I expect that they do it on countries that they expect most of their players to be familiar with.
>>345180224
>Barbarossa for Germany
>Peter for Russia
>Philip for Spain
>Scythians
Goddamn if only the artstyle wasnt mobile game/Age of Empires Online like
>>345194749
Yeah they're already allowing you to buy the 4 "post-launch" DLCs
>tfw these days people won't even get mad at shit that was obviously cut from the main game to be sold as DLC
>>345194925
for the most part I'm fine with them mixing it up but there are certain leaders you don't touch. it's fucking Napoleon. no Bismarck is already pushing it, as is no Caesar/Augustus (though to be fair Rome has lots of figures that could be good).
it's like putting in the Mongols and not having Genghis. Napoleon IS France.
>>345195084
Philip for Spain is actually kind of questionable at the minute I think. I'm not sure if that portait lines up, plus Isabella (the wrong Isabella that is) precedes him on the list.
>>345195084
The art looks good. Far better than AoE online.
>>345195089
You get more money to make pre-order incentives. That's just how it is. 2k allocate resources to pre-order incentives. Resources that otherwise, would not be spent on the game at all.
>>345195150
>Napoleon IS France.
No he is a specific time period of france.
He is not the ancien regime which is just as much France.
>tfw no robspierre civ leader.
>>345195253
I'm not arguing that Napoleon is solely responsible for France as it exists today because that would be fucking stupid. I'm saying he is the face of historical France by a huge fucking margin, if you asked people to name the first French leader from >100 years ago that comes to mind 99/100 people are going to say Napoleon. Napoleon is the face of historical France just like Genghis is the face of historical Mongolia, and it's not even a competition. The only other guy with similar name recognition would probably be Caesar.
>>345195429
That is exactly the reason they don't use him.
>>345194726
Der Alte Fritz was based as fuck. Also he was literally a fellow autistic anon.
Why the fuck do they put Ghandi into every single fucking Civ game?
Are the fanboy shitlords so obsessed with le ebin designated nuke thrower skelington?
>>345195473
That's incredibly stupid. Change for the sake of change is stupid. Nintendo could drop Luigi from Mario Kart to "mix things up" but that would be fucking stupid. People who play Mario Kart like Luigi, and swapping him for somebody else nobody gives a shit about is not a good decision just because it's a change.
I can get behind change when there are several leaders for the country who are arguably equally iconic. But dropping fucking Napoleon just because they've used him in previous games is retarded. They used him in previous games for a reason.
>>345195684
meme + India as a political entity hasn't exactly had many notable leaders.
Who else are they gonna put in Modhi?
>>345195786
>Change for the sake of change is stupid.
Not in the slightest and your comparison is nonsensical. There is a degree of educational value in not picking well known leaders. There isn't in luigi.
>>345194925
As long as she's not some old hag and proper waifu material I'm fine.
>>345187168
I want to fuck the Pink one
>>345195853
>educational value
Civ is not a game being fed to children in schools. You get a loading screen with some details about your leader and that's about the extent of it for the normal player. If you're seriously valuing educational value in a Civ game over picking leaders that are actually well-known and that people like I don't know what to say to you.
>>345195791
>India as a political entity hasn't exactly had many notable leaders
Except it does.
>>345195150
Napoleon has been absent before, he wasn't in II or III. To my knowledge the only recurring leaders who were never replaced prior to VI were Gandhi, Elizabeth, Alexander, Shaka, Isabella, William and Genghis. They broke tradition in the last game when they dropped Mao Zedong, Julius Caesar and Montezuma II.
Gandhi (and maybe Isabella) is apparently the only one returning from V, and that's because he's essentially civ's mascot. It's nice to get leaders who aren't the "one true choice" imo, though it can go a little overboard if they fill the cast with Who? choices.
>>345195975
There is value in making people aware of broader history in the small ways you can. There is no greater value in throwing Napoleon at you 6 times in a row, also it'd get boring.
>>345184349
I hate dust. I don't want it building up in my home.
>>345195975
>Civ is not a game being fed to children in schools.
Anon...
http://www.ign.com/games/civilization-edu/pc-20055385
>>345196006
Who? who since ghandi was particularly notable.
Now to make sure my position was clear, the Mughals would not count for example, those were the mughals not India, so Harihara would not count because he was a leader of Vijayanagar, not India.
>>345196024
For the ones getting dropped in V: Mao is presumably for political reasons. Caesar actually makes sense because Augustus is just as important if not more important. I know nothing about Montezuma.
The VI switches seem to be much less focused in their reasoning.
>>345195684
Gandhi is already a meme in Civ since forever so he is 100% guaranteed to be in every Civ game
And it's not like India had any more good leaders after him.
>>345195786
>they used him in previous games for a reason.
And they picked Joan as the leader of France in Civ 3 and Louis XIV in Civ 2, what's your point m8?
The real problem here is picking a shitty queen(also wife of a literally who) as the leader of France when they had the option to chose the Sun King or Philip Augustus.
>>345196231
"important" is a hard thing to truly quantify in terms of world history though.
People often go for military leaders and the like because it's easy to see what they did and why it was important.
>>345179658
more diverse cast
ruling the world shouldnt be a white boys club
>>345196093
I don't think social impact is something that should be weighed in a privately produced entertainment product, I'm sorry. Maybe Civ VI will get a dozen people to read the Wikipedia article for Catherine de Medici but I really don't think that benefit outweighs the cost of people playing hundreds of hours in this game with a leader they don't really give a shit about (I think you can at the very least concede that far fewer people care about Catherine de Medici than Napoleon).
>>345196426
and maybe after playing for some time they will.
>>345195684
Basically yes, he's essentially their OC. Zulu are another silly addition that get in on the virtue of legacy.
>>345191049
yeah because this is the confirmed list right?
after all devs have always stayed strictly to their early trailers and game play footage haven't they m8?
>>345196576
I'd say it's pretty set at this point, I can't imagine much reason for them to go back to the drawing board so close to release.
>>345196484
Do you really think that Civ VI will spark some sort of renaissance in the appreciation of Catherine de Medici? I think you're grossly overestimating how important these games are. I really don't know what to say if you genuinely think the Civ series has some sort of moral obligation to teach people about history, and if you truly believe that it would entail sweeping changes across everything, and Cleopatra would certainly not be the Egyptian leader because she is there 100% for name recognition and being female.
People who care about history aren't learning it through a video game. People who have never cared about history aren't going to start caring because they can play as obscure historical French leaders.
>>345196024
>though it can go a little overboard if they fill the cast with Who? choices
But not including modern leaders is not a Who? choice within the context of a historical game. Ashoka isn't a Who?, for example, and he actually ruled India.
Pedro II is a who to pretty much everyone outside of Brazil, it didn't stop them from getting him in.
>>345180224
>Pericles
>>345196878
>Pericles of Greece
>never ruled Greece
>Alexander of Greece
>never ruled Greece
>>345179658
>Civ6 is being made by nu-Firaxis
>Amplitude got bought by SEGA
>Pardox started poisoning the 4X genre with Stellaris
>Stardock can't produce a fun game if their life dependent on it
>MoO remake... the less said the better
>Triumph Studios has been super silent about their new project for over a year now
JUST
FUCK
UP
MY
4X GENRE
>>345196851
I would say Who is relative to the civ itself, based on the perceptions of somebody who would have a very surface level knowledge of each faction. They would likely know who Pedro II is, but probably not Catherine de Medici. Most of the cast choices aren't along those lines mind you.
On another note I'm surprised people haven't started bitching about Saladin the Kurdish sultan of Egypt leading the Arabs.
>>345197309
>nu-
Stop this
>>345197389
I'll stop it when they stop it.
>>345197331
People have bitched about Saladin here. Either way, they always include some Who? woman.
>>345197437
Honestly, what does this prove? That your a bitter perma virgin manchild?
No, this clearly proves this genre which has games coming out constantly is dead.
No.
>>345197437
use the word 'new' or 'modern'
>>345197627
But then it would just be for show.
>>345179658
ill pirate it, theres nothing else i could do, i love these games
