>Zombies
>Have most of their brains/flesh/organs intact
>More motor skills still intact
>Shamble forward at babby speed
>Skellingtons
>Smart
>Agile
>Usually holding weapons
>Despite no brain, no muscles or any nerves
Why is this allowed? Why are skeles so fucking smart and zombies get kicked in the dick?
>>345177848
Zombies are just reanimated flesh
Skeletons are possessed and powered by spirits
Skeletons are a higher tier of nechromancy
>>345177848
Both are entirely animated via magic in most settings that contain both.
Zombies have more mass, and have restricted movements that dead bodies normally have.
Skeletons are light and lack any resistance at all.
The same amount of effort/magic moves skeletons more and more quickly/dexterously.
>>345178332
>>345178358
So why the fuck would they not give Zombies all the abilities that skeletons have? You'd at least have more capable warriors?
Skeletons are animated by magic, while zombies are merely dead flesh animated. It's the difference between turning back on an engine that turned off and creating an engine, in terms of magical difficulty.
One only needs fuel, one needs fuel and a source of locomotion.
>>345178332
t. Skeletonposter
>>345178556
>You'd at least have more capable warriors?
In what way would they be more capable?
>>345178556
Takes more work, read the second post.
You either animate a couple of capable zombies, or a horde of capable skeletons.
>>345178556
ghouls are a thing.
zombies are just low tier minions, just like how planks with a nail in it are low tier weapons
>>345178770
>>345178708
But Zombies are literally more of a human/creature then skeletons. If they are given life again by a necromancer, they'd be able to actually wield shit.
>>345178868
What are skeletons unable to wield that zombies can?
>>345178940
Anything.
Because they have no muscles to lift things with. Nor a brain in their head to command them to do such things.
OR SPINAL NERVES
Zombies > Skeleshits
>>345177848
>all these undead plebs around me
>they'll never know that vampires are the pinnacle of undeath
Caine is laughing at you
>>345179005
But they do wield things, so clearly they have an other worldly force that is not constrained to our physical rules. If anything that makes them far more capable than what zombies could ever be.
>>345179005
They're controlled by ghosts though. Zombies are reanimated soulless corpses, and have to move under their own (weak) power.
fucking skeletons
immortal skeletons are fucking hell on DS
got mobbed on thrice by those fucks
There are too many fucking skeleposters in this thread. Where's a paladin when you need him
>>345178868
zombies are low tier, they don't weild shit. ghouls are the upgraded version that are basically undead with human/base race abilities. you don't need to base higher necromancy on inferior materials
>>345179005
That's objectively wrong. Tons of skeletons wield swords armor and shields. You sound really stupid.
>>345179097
I've never played bloodlines. Is it any good?
>>345179097
>pinnacle of undeath
You mean liches
>>345179108
Even assuming that an untiring skeleton is just as strong as a zombie because of magical invisible joints, it'd still only weigh like 25 pounds. Even a woman would be able to pick up a skeleton over their heads and toss it against a wall.
>>345179257
We're arguing the semantics of skeletons vs Zombies and you're saying I sound stupid?
Skeletons a shit. Literally the most necro-controlled fucks in a game.
Skeletons weigh like absolutely nothing. They'd have to have magical enhancements to do basic tasks
>zombies hate fire
>skeletons are resistant to fire
Explain this shit.
Objective Undead Tier
Mummy Pharoah > Ghost > Vampire > Mummy > Skeleton > Zombie
>>345177848
zombies are reanimated undead left to their own will
skeletons are directly controlled and instructed by arcane magic, like a golem
>>345179389
>skeletons are resistant to fire
>>345179317
have you ever seen a skeleton throw a skeleton that's also throwing a skeleton? you're still alive, so i assume not, you're lucky
>>345179389
Harder to burn bones than flesh
>>345179416
Hold up you shitter
Lich>Necromancer>Mummy Pharoah>Vampire>Zombie>Skeleton>Ghost
>>345179296
>>345179097
>vampires
>liches
>pinnacle of undeath
Step aside, lesser corpses. The King is back.
>>345179550
>have you ever seen a skeleton throw a skeleton that's also throwing a skeleton? you're still alive, so i assume not, you're lucky
No, but I think I need to now.
>>345179574
Mummy Pharoah>Lich>Necromancer>Vampire>Ghost>Skeleton>Zombie
>>345179282
It's fantastic, make sure to get the unofficial parch
>>345179296
>liches
>shitty wizards who hide their souls like cowards
>pinnacle of anything
>>345179550
No, but I've seen a skeleton underhand throw a weapon but not let go.
>>345179690
>Putting a literal lord of the dead above some fag who can only control mummies
>>345179389
It takes a much hotter flame to turn bones into ash. Skeletons are are powered by magic unlike zombies which move with their flesh. Burn up a zombie and all you have left is a non-magic skeleton that can't move.
>>345179773
>implying mummy pharaohs can only control mummies
[citation needed]
>>345179857
>They're mummies. A lich controls mummies. A MUMMY PHARAOH IS A MUMMY.
You are at a disadvantage, old man.
>>345179097
>vampire
>controlling a few thralls after you suck their necks like a homo
>not becoming a warlock and making the powers of the void your bitch
>>345179897
>Pharaohs can control the undead
>Liches are undead
wew
>>345179986
How can a mummy pharaoh control the undead. That doesn't make sense
>>345179690
Necromancer and Vampires are usually at the top of the chain
liches differ depending on the setting, sometimes they are necromancers that have become undead but sometimes they are lesser creatures
>>345179706
Do I need the patch to make it playable? I normally do a vanilla run anyway, but the patch looks like I'm editing registry files and all that bullshit.
Is the steam version pre-patched?
>>345180028
Apparently they're called a Pharaoh Lich instead.
Whoops.
>>345180112
>Vampires
>Can't even survive the fucking sun
>>345179758
this is almost 6 years ago
>>345180128
steam isn't pre-patched, here,
http://www.moddb.com/mods/vtmb-unofficial-patch/news/unofficial-patch-95-released
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=257404945
the important thing is to run it from the desktop not steam.
>skeletons
>work hard, can become knights or magi
>zombies
>just laze around all day achieving nothing
Zombies are the absolute scum of the corporeal undead world and frankly the world would be better off without them.
>>345180589
Skeletons are only slightly above zombies.
Vampires and ghosts are middle class.
Liches and Pharaohs are at the top of the undead ladder, the CEOs.
>>345180437
So I need this patch to play the game fully, right? Because this meme went too far with STALKER.
I'll trust you anon
>>345180883
Sadly yes. Good news is that it gets updates at a surprising frequency for a game this old.and don't open it
>>345181120
Anon why would you ruse me
This patch is taking me hours to download
Don't open it? The patch? Or the game from Steam?
pic related is the scariest looking undead of 2d realm
>>345179005
People like you will be the first to die in the skeleton war.
>>345181412
The game from steam, but it's a reference to events in the game. If the patch on moddb isn't working try here
http://www.patches-scrolls.de/patch/4647
>>345179550
>first skeleton trips
>it and the other two get mixed up
>have to fight the dreaded, three headed, six armed, armed with legs triple skeleton
>>345181936
I'm getting the patch from the patches-Scrolls site, it's just trying to take about 9 hours- nevermind, it jumped to about 10 minutes. Wtf.
I'm still good to install the game from steam and THEN never play it through that installer again, right? I use the PATCH one to play from now on.
But I gotta install it first, right?
So that's cool, right?
>>345181936
Anon if you're still here, which options should I tick for the patch? I've got Patch Extra but not Patch Plus ticked, according to the guide you linked. Am good?
they are so scary so you fight not good
>>345182083
>>345182750
You should be fine without it patch plus.
Good luck Childe
>>345179296
Liches are shit tier because they destroy a part of themself for immortality, and it's the shitty knockoff version at that.
