How do we fix horror henre?
>>345155734
less reliance on jumpscares and grossouts. More use of atmosphere, surrealism, and using the unknown and confusion to make the player afraid.
Oh, also helplessness.
I've long contemplated the idea of a game where you play as a badass parkour soldierand your guns do jackshit to them, enemies teleport and phase through walls.
More jump scares.
>>345155734
can anyone explain why are there a bunch of bugs congregating on that pole?
>>345155734
Who the fuck is Horror Henry?
by shooting it before throwing it off a plane
>>345156935
avoiding the flood is my guess
>>345156935
Their enviornment flooded and it was the only close high ground
>>345156935
probably fleeing flood waters
I've seen massive amounts of insects fleeing fires and such. Natural disasters kill them just as much as us.
>>345156935
apparently the area started flooding so they all climbed up the pole to avoid drowning.
>>345155734
grubs
>>345156935
thing cover pole dark warm under thing cover pole worm like make go under thing cover pole
>>345155734
>that small patch of pole almost completely bare
You don't gotta latch on anymore little worms
![latest[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/kNIWgt3.jpg "latest[2].jpg")
>>345157004
This is horror Henry and he doesn't need fixing in my opinion.
You can't.
The internet has made the genre a complete joke and devs went where the money is.
Jumpscare twitchtube cancer makes way more than actual attempts at horror.
It will never, ever be good or relevant again.
>>345156935
As you can see the area aound them is flooded, in this situation it was the end of the world for them. This is why they decided to meet on this pole and fuck eachother senseless before the unavoidable doom gets them. One last orgy. So beautiful.
>>345157323
somehow I can't see this being pewdiepied
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEE4yZgphFk&ab_channel=GameSpot
No more zombies
>>345155734
Imagine what this would look like in motion
Punish the player to make it scarier. Running into the monster or the wrong room or whatever triggers something that will mean even more serious repercussions further along in the game play but without seriously ramping up the difficulty to the point the game is unable to be finished
>>345157407
Centipedes are the best at the sex because they have a cock between every pair of legs
>>345157452
Oh yes it will. And there is a reason I said twitchtube cancer.
Faggots on twitch will go on and on about it til anyone that matters hates it by default.
The genre is dead for anyone who matters.
>>345155734
a-are the bugs ok?
>>345155734
Mmmm, protein
>>345157565
Do they have 50 dicks or 100?
>>345157665
they have one cock for every pair of legs so 50, but they have 100 testicles
>>345155734
I wonder how they would taste if you cooked them.
>First person survival horror game
>You have a single handgun and ammo is extremely rare, maybe about 20 rounds in total can be found during the entirety of the game
>Gun handling works like it does in Receiver, with every action being manually executed by the player
>This also extends to aiming, which is completely freeform, meaning you can even aim the gun at yourself which brings us to the main gimmick of the game
>If the monster kills you, it's game over and you have to start over from the very beginning
>If you shoot yourself instead, you can continue playing from the last checkpoint you've reached
>The gun can also be used to shoot the creature to cause it to flinch in pain and allowing you time to flee and hide
>Ammo used to kill yourself will not be refunded upon continuing
Basically, if you include threats in the game, they need to matter beyond a simple reload, or nothing you create can stay scary after the first encounter.
>>345157565
But Grimsby
>>345157653
Bear Grylls get of my /v/
>>345155734
>>345157049
What if there's a game where you can throw a man off a plane, but he survives and comes for revenge if you don't shoot him?
>>345157903
Why would this worm eat something that big compared to itself
>>345157903
Suddenly my penis hurts
>>345157168
>>345158027
rules of nature
>>345158027
Because now it's 100% full and doesn't have to eat again for a while "Henry"
>>345156865
Only works for some people, is the problem.
For others, atmospherics and nuance mean nothing, they'll just run through and complain its boring.
>>345157903
Why is it so hot
>>345157452
>somehow I can't see this being pewdiepied
That thing has like the most chance of being pied than any other game I've seen trailers of.
How do all those bugs live in harmony like that?
>>345158061
>>345158263
by eating each other's turds
I don't know if you can fix horror games. The genre is fundamentally broken because all it takes is you to develop an understanding of the mechanics and it is no longer scary. From my perspective it really doesn't matter how you structure the game because in the space of a few hours you've figured out how the game works and thus defeated the 'horror' with predictability. I think the only real way you could have a by and large legitimate horror game is to either keep the game very short, ensure that the monsters all have varying mechanics or extremely good AI to the point where it feels unfair. Resource scarcity and pressure are a must; the player should never be able to stop and collect themselves and should always be on the brink of resource/health starvation. Of course for most people this wouldn't be a fun experience so this hypothetical game would probably bomb and since I'm not a game dev in any sense of the word I have no idea how to balance it out.
>>345157786
Neat.
>>345157587
>The genre is dead for anyone who matters.
Horror isn't a genre. It's an aesthetic.
And Alien: Isolation was GOAT.
>>345158061
i hate that i'm going to see this reposted now
More short 2-5 hour experiences with unique gameplay and premise. Just like five nights at freddys, but don't fucking make a bajillion sequels because it ruins the point.
You see, horror is when you don't know what's coming. All great horror games like silent hill 2, alien isolation and amnesia are way too long. After a few hours you start to realize you're in a game, you stop being immersed and instead only see game mechanics.
>>345157903
I can fap to this.
Wait for my game to come out
>>345158349
AI was quite amazing at capturing the space 70s aesthetic
>>345158061
I'm fucking dying here anon
>>345158363
>>345158316
I see now. Society was doomed from the start.
>>345158396
Insects are so strange
>>345158396
OK but for real what is going on here
>>345158396
This has to be fake, that's like a radioactive shade of greenr-right
>>345158027
Because it's an american.
>>345158027
>not wanting to be a big guy
Fuck off TJ "Henry" Go Fuck Yourself
>>345155734
I still stand by the notion that jumpscares are fine in moderation.
It's also a huge bonus to jumpsares if they require to play your way out of them so you feel the initial shock and have to deal with it while desperately trying to save your ass.
Just don't make it the norm and you're golden.
Also between monsters are generally shitty.
Either have a monster so outlandish no one would even imagine it normally, or try to make it somewhat close to a real experience that could happen.
Don't pussy foot in the middle with a werewolf or some shit.
And obviously atmosphere.
Really drive home the fact they they are all alone.
>>345155734
That's not scary, that's fucking neat.
>>345157792
underrated
>>345158396
Worms are scary, anyone has that webm of a horsehair worm?
>>345158575
settle down, no one wants to get hurt
>>345158396
what the fuck
>>345158575
(You)
>>345158714
Looks like it had a parasite and it's leaving the host body.
>>345158694
dont reply to those dumb autistic reddit posts, you are just driving the quality of the board down
>>345158575
>>345158786
What had a parasite?
>>345158396
Let me guess. Its taking a shit.
Stop making fucking first person games where all you can do is hide from the enemies or stun them for a little bit and then go hide
>>345157786
>If the monster kills you, it's game over and you have to start over from the very beginning
>If you shoot yourself instead, you can continue playing from the last checkpoint you've reached
That's pretty fucking awesome.
I think the best horror experiences were when the DayZ mod first come out because you did not want to die because of all the work it took to find your gear. I enjoyed hiding from zombies as a fresh spawn and avoiding contract with other players. Firefights were the best as you had so much to lose.
>>345158914
The sickly green thing.
>>345158659
He could have eaten only a half
>>345155734
I'm just imagining a single centipede escaping to that block and slowly going to town on all the worms as they days go by and they look on in horror not knowing when they will be next.
>>345158585
Garish colors are actually pretty usual in nature. It's how prey animals message to potential predators that "I'm fucking poisonous. Don't eat me."
This is called aposematism.
>>345157786
>If the monster kills you, it's game over and you have to start over from the very beginning
>If you shoot yourself instead, you can continue playing from the last checkpoint you've reached
That's retarded. Fuck your checkpoints.
>>345156865
Atmosphere and the unknown are solid. Insidious was spooky af until I saw the demons and it became dumb af. When that one demon was walking the halls I thought it was the kid in a coma, wouldn't that have been spoopier?
There needs to be a horror game where its nothing but you running away from the kool-aid man.
>>345158916
That's a pretty active shit
make combat fun
>>345156865
>also helplessness.
Games are slowly returning to this. Frictional's games are the future of horror IMO.
>>345159108
>af
Please don't do this.
Make enemies grab you.
>>345159176
It's spooky cuz no one actually knows why they clump like this. It's a common thing though
>>345159176
That's interesting, are they fumigating the place or something? Why are they dropping off the roof?
>>345159074
I knew that was common in fish and reptiles and stuff, but that thing is just a blob...thing. I don't even know what it is, it looks like someone sneezed and it came to life
>>345159292
Cute
>>345159176
>people are actually scared of daddy long legs
>>345159292
Make enemiescuddle you
>>345159196
>buy a scary game
>it turns out to have really great combat
>forget that its a scary game and just have a great time fighting stuff, completely calm
I don't know how to feel about this
>>345159292
This thing is actually blind. Notice how it is using a feeler appendage to feel for the hand.
>>345158575
>>345156935
why are there a bunch of humans congregating in shelter?
>>345159176
why are there so many
>>345158396
>>345156935
Rumor has it it has something to do with flooding.
>>345158156
>For others, atmospherics and nuance mean nothing, they'll just run through and complain its boring.
Then they should fuck off, those are the imbeciles who ruined horror in the first place.
>>345159027
Movie? Show?
>>345159407
it can be both
>>345159176
>>345159292
That's actually cute
>>345159027
>game starts out with normal routine
>cleaning and dressing a fish
>split second later, webm happens
>In order to complete the game you must still go about your daily life each day to find the thing that turns out to be you torturing or killing someone
The novelty would probably wear off really fast, but the idea of watching something like that, to then switch over to you gutting someone and not realizing it could be pretty horrifying. Probably still not that great an idea.
>>345158575
(You)
>>345159375
>>345159537
>creature is scared for its life
>cute
>>345159292
Why is it trying to grab so listfully anyway. Does it have some ultimate move it can unleash if it hooks on properly?
>>345159293
We do it to keep warm
>>345159078
The point of the suicide mechanic is to be able to avoid permadeath, but as said, you can only do so as long as you have ammunition, and offing yourself obviously doesn't allow you to progress in the game.
>>345155734
The two biggest things that ruin horror for me in games is speed and power. If you can get away from enemies fairly quickly, then tension doesn't get to build. Also, if you don't need to fear death in a game, there is no tension. Having a gun with practically infinite ammo, that is easy to reload, running around shooting things is about the furthest you can get from a scary game. You can create the scariest atmosphere possible, and even throw in fucking jump scares, but it is meaningless in a run and gun game.
Another thing that games don't seem to understand is that solitude helps build tension. This means no second player, and not having enemies around every corner. I remember when I was a kid, I went into my uncle's room and played RE2. All I did was walk around something like an empty police station for a few minutes without anything happening in the game. I ended up getting so creeped out from the solitude that I turned the game off and went downstairs where there was light. When I played the beginning of the game being surrounded by zombies, I actually wasn't half as afraid as when I was in that police station.
>>345159637
I'll make you scared for your life, bitch.
>>345159656
There are better ways to avoid permadeath than retarded shit like that.
>>345159027
>reptile
Thanks google.
Why is Google Image search so fucking shit lately?
>>345158858
That's impossible since this board's quality is already the lowest of the low
>>345159497
Hannibal
>>345159637
Small flustered things are cute, what else is new
>>345159645
CUTE
>>345159507
Sauce?
>>345159643
They use those claws to catch prey and fight eachother. It's probably trying to intimidate the hand to leave it alone.
>>345159510
that thing can werf some flamen
Problem with games where you can't fight back:
>No challenge because failure just means restarting at a checkpoint
Problem with games where you can fight back:
>Usually not scary because you can just kill the monster
Solution:
>A balanced approach where stealth is much easier but failure results in difficult and terrifying combat sections. More consequences for death.
I think Alien Isolation had a good approach. You could temporarily fend the alien off if it found you but once alerted it'd be on the hunt. It was way easier to just be sneaky and the atmosphere was always tense.
>all these goddamn bugs and snakes
The planet would be a lot more comfy and safe without either of them. Much like the Romans removed all the dangerous wildlife from what is now Britain, we need to remove all the snakes and bugs.
>>345159773
>and fight eachother
This sounds dope as hell
>>345159645
That's actually kinda cool.
>>345159773
Its a nig.
>>345159721
Give an example then. After all, the point of this thread is to brainstorm ideas.
>>345159770
literally filename
http://doomwiki.org/wiki/Who_Dun_It
never played it myself but it sounds like a few Gmod games
>>345159652
>we
>>345158549
>Worms
>Insects
Everyone knows they're arachnids, retard.
>>345159770
thats the doom mod whodunnit, ask about it in /vr/ doomgeneralits pretty popular and you can often get a game going if there isnt already one up
>Bought a PC back in 2012 to play all of the indie horror games coming out at the time
>Almost immediately after, all of the indie horrors become let's play meme bait
>Promising titles like Routine, U55, and The Hum are stuck in development hell
>Allison Road and others cancelled
>Among the Sleep and others were shit
>The Forest and others in eternal early access
>Vanishing of Ethan Carter looks good but it's retarded and unplayable
>Steam horror releases have slowed to a crawl, with soulless shovelware dominating the release feed
Only Dreadout and Outlast didn't let me down
>>345159292
if it catches you...
>>345158575
>>345159924
HACKS I CALL HACKS
>>345159821
>Dicking around in the intro of Alien:Isolation causes the ayy to show up before the first scripted appearance and rape you
Spooked me good
>>345159637
non-avians and non-mammals do not have emotions, anon.
>>345159645
I know the mantis didn't choose that coloration, but I'm still impressed with it.
>FUCK OFF M8 I'LL STING YOUR SHIT
>Please don't notice that I can barely walk
>>345159994
He should name his kid taco.
>>345159979
>routine
I totally forgto about that one. Shame, it looked dope as hell
>>345159378
>tfw you used to pull their legs off when you were young
fuck me, I was an evil little cunt
>>345159821
The balance is sorta lost nowadays as everyone is just copying the Amnesia formula that lets them skimp out on designing a combat system, ammo/supplies, and designing enemies who react instead of just making a AI that's just "run toward player". Throw in a couple things getting in your face and screaming and you get 90% of all horror games today.
>>345158061
I wish the text wasn't so cramped
>>345159305
If I remember correctly it's their defense system so it irritates or confused the shit out of it's predator.
>>345159497
hannibal
>>345159821
Condmned handled it fine. Wish more games followed and improved its formula, because they didn't they went overboard and turned the main character into a kung fu master in the 2nd one.
>>345158575
Here, just take the damn (You). Just leave them out of this.
>>345159993
Primates are shit, everyone knows this.
Humans were a mistake
>>345160113
Holy fuck what is wrong with you? the worst I ever did was squish ants but it takes a seriously fucked up mind to mutilate a living thing like that.
>>345158575
fair enough
>>345159742
>>345160169
Thanks.
>>345159924
>40 Insight
>>345160175
>Jumping spider
Those cuties can climb into my ear hole for warmth any time!
>>345156935
Your mom rode it about an hour ago
work with masters of the genre to make games
>>345157786
Sounds cool to me, but 20 rounds total would be stupid.
>>345160240
t. octopus or dolphin
>>345160175
I wish my ears were full of jumping spiders.
>>345160175
Not clicking dat shit nigga
>>345160175
NOPE
>>345160386
PUSSSSSSSSS
>>345159074
>>345160175
This is fake, right?
>outlast
>alien isolation
the genre is fine
>>345159212
amnesia machine for pigs was shit
>>345160175
aww :3
>>345159924
>tfw just going to the gas station is enough to scare you shitless
Fuck, spiders love making webs by the pumps. This video would probably give me a heart attack if I saw it in real life...
>>345159212
It's unfortunate that you used that cover to illustrate your point.
>>345158575
That wouldn't scare anyone.
>>345160335
Why is that? The weapon is not supposed to be an actual weapon (except when shooting the monster or something in the environment is a wiser course of action than shooting yourself), so ammunition should be considered to be like continues or tools.
>>345158575
>>345158575
you
>>345160243
>fucked up
Anon, it's a small insignificant bug.
>>345160340
Octopuses are the greatest species on the planet so go ahead call me an octopus
>>345160175
jumping spiders are so cute
ive found some and even took
pictures
>>345158575
zabinga
>>345159223
Lmao desu senpai kys. gay af.
>>345160481
I need to redownload that after my external failed, thanks for reminding me.
>>345160243
I can't wash the blood from my hands anon
>>345158575
>>345158575
Here you go pal(You)
>>345157903
fuck thats hot
>>345159637
>insects
>not hard wired nerves with no emotions
If insects had a fear for life flies wouldn't buzz around an inch from your face.
guys please reply to me. i'm so fucking lonely.
Horror games that focus on mazes and a monster looking for you inside of it scare the everloving shit out of me.
Also, SCP-087-B makes my heart beat faster than a motherfucker
>>345159891
If any of you played Steel Battalion, you would know about the whereabouts of that fucking eject button like it was your very own heart and soul. If you get your mech shot down in that game, you'd have a brief period of time when you could eject, and if you didn't, all your saves would be deleted. You could also eject at any point in the mission, losing your current mech in the process.
Shooting yourself in the face is lame as fuck, and is extremely counter-immersive for one. It's just going to feel like a going back in time mechanic as long as you keep a round available to you. Nobody is going to use that round on the monster EVER, since the consequences of doing so means that your entire save is possibly deleted. So all it does is give you a convenient quick load button for the moment the monster spots you. Terrible.
Compare that with Steel Battalion where each time you eject, you lose the mech in question and have to go on without it. Losing too many mechs (each one costs you precious resources to gain) means a game over, which again, is a loss of your save data.
>>345158575
k
>>345160583
FUCK OFF OCTOPUS GO BACK TO YOUR COCONUT
>>345160435
I've honestly felt a bit uncomfortable around people with hair like that my whole life.
@345160751
Here you go, my anon
>>345158563
the pink thingie is its proboscis. That worm basically projects part of its digestive system outside its body to catch and eat things
>>345157452
reminds me of a book where a ship goes through some space anomaly and is basically turned into an organic creature, and the humans inside either turned or had to try to survive the changed environment.
I feel like the game may follow a similar plot, and the MC is waking up after the conversion.
>>345160751
make an interesting post about bugs and I'll see what I can do
>>345160751
Please don't feel sad
>>345158575
i'm sorry!
>>345160751
Fuck off, faggot
>>345155734
What are the scariest monster sounds in vidya, /v/
>>345160729
>If humans had a fear for life humans wouldn't slap a bull on the ass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w48mTYPtb28
>>345158575
(You)
>>345160958
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcliVxN5EC0
theres more than two genders
prove me wrong
>>345160481
my dick is diamonds.
>>345157914
>i came back for you
>>345161018
>Penis
>Vagina
>>345160958
>monsters
Clicking feet like you would expect to hear from a giant spider.
>other sounds
Shit like a closing door in an "empty" building.
>>345160958
Not vidya but;
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LnkMSmLc6mM
>>345161018
Male
Female
Spurdo
>>345157452
>it's gross
>that's just the game
>>345161018
GRANDMA WHAT WAS IT LIKE? TO BE ON THE HOLIDAY SITE
>>345160045
Octopi do.
>>345160819
>Used to know chubby goth with purple hair and huge tits
>Thought I had a chance because she was different than the others
>"She probably thinks Chad is stupid because she's so special, I love her"
>Turns out she was the town bicycle
>She fucked over 50 dudes before me
>But she wouldn't put out for me
>She went on to have a promising career of complaining about women being seen as sex objects
>She's now the bicycle of another town
I can't tell you how worthless it made me feel to know I'm probably the only man alive she wouldn't lay down for
>>345155734
this reminds me of that one episode where Timon and Pumbaa find a free all you can eat bug buffet
>>345158968
A meal's a meal. You can't only say it's half.
>>345160796
But if there are an extremely limited amount of rounds available to you at any given time, then that same dilemma is achieved after a few deaths. You simply run out of resources to keep continuing.
The only problem then is that it is an immersion breaker, but that is hardly an issue that couldn't be solved with some creative thinking. Maybe the checkpoints are beds, and each time you shoot yourself you jolt awake in the last bed you saved your game at, the whole ordeal you just went through being a nightmare.
>>345157792
50 vaganias, imagine.
>>345161140
What did the bird do to him? Asshole.
>>345161205
It's better not to have sex with the bicycle Anon
I'd like a horror game like Yume Nikki. That surreal old weeb 2d horror fibe it has is brilliant.
Do you guys know of other games like that?
>>345160048
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>345160481
>Shadow of the camera guy
Come on you had one job
>>345161205
Going to need more of this
>>345161193
They're also hard gay.
>>345160958
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpDddF1MUZI
>>345159439
fucking leftist "refugee" enabling
>>345158575
no, fuck you.
>>345160481sauce please
>>345158575
(you)
>>345160048
>>345161143
Thats when you know shit is fucked up.
>>345159645
how did this mantis get that coloration? is there a species that can camouflage itself or is this just a coincidence?
>>345161256
>But if there are an extremely limited amount of rounds available to you at any given time, then that same dilemma is achieved after a few deaths
Why would it be if you go back to the previous checkpoint where you have the rounds again?
And if you lose the rounds despite going back in time, then that's even more retarded and immersion breaking, since you aren't even going back in time at that point. And in that case nobody would ever use the rounds for anything EVER, since they are worth hundreds of times more to go back a little than shooting the monster.
>>345160481
Video name?
>>345158575
(you)
>>345160843
I wish I could just spit out my stomach and have it attack animals
thats metal as fuck
>>345158575
bazoopers
>>345161575
>Anon where are you touching me
>>345158575
M8
>>345160556
THE ONLY GOOD BUG
IS A DEAD BUG
>>345161629
They seduce wasps into having sex with them before biting their heads off like other mantises.
>>345160636
What's the name of it? Please, it looks so good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0lPJdYlzmk
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Wgqf2qkLxk
make a pretty good case about how resident evil 4 wasn't so much of an action game, but an innovation on the typical formula, which resident evil 5 took for granted, and instead of doubling down on the horror/terror, they doubled down on the action instead
the way to make games creepy again is to stop making them so easy and to stop making them so simple [go here and kill this. walk down this single corridor map and complete this single objective, marked by a quest arrow and shiny objects]
and don't be so afraid to be vague in what the player is expected to do
>>345161018
Male, Female, Cuntboy, Shemale, and Futa.
>>345158575
leave 'em be, sheldon...
>>345161638
If shooting the monster would give you time to hide until it leaves and then you could continue, would shooting the monster not be better than shooting yourself and then having to face it again with one less bullet, potentially having to shoot yourself again?
Knowing when to use a bullet to hinder the monster and when to use it to kill yourself would be a part of the challenge.
>>345161629
Mantids are extremely diverse and every one is specialized for a specific environment.
They mimic local predators and flora.
>>345157452
Didn't the devs of this game posted here a long time ago asking for feedback, posting concept art and stuff?
Good to know they didn't give up on it, trailer looks pretty good.
>>345161914
>he makes up three genders based on his fetishes
In actual spook games I usually start to get spooked by turning around corners or turning around. So I guess suspense is the way to go
>>345160958
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5J7apoX9U8
>>345162043
Check your privilege
