>be a decent writer
>want to direct games
>don't want to code
Why can't I just be a more involved Ideas Guy?
>>345147919
Ideas are worthless most of the time mate. Everyone can make them.
If you have a lot of money you can be any type of ideas guy.
>>345148170
Fuck this guy. Pursue your ideas, dude. Make design documents and shit. Find friends who know code. Or fucking learn it yourself, that's part of the pudding making process, that little bit of work you gotta go through. I taught myself fucking unity and gamemaker, and used prototypes to bring others into working with me. There's a bit of "hard" work you gotta go through. Don't be a lazy piece of shit.
>>345148170
>Afraid of other people's success and ideas. Have to shit talk due to insecurity.
>>345148602Thanks, Anon.
>>345147919
If you don't want to code, learn how to art.
If you don't want to art, learn how to 3D.
If you don't want to 3D, learn how to animate.
If you don't want to animate, learn how to particles.
If you don't want to particles, learn how to code.
>>345147919
Not saying ideas guys can't be successful but you need good connections to make something out of it. Ideas guys are a dime a dozen.
stop being a bitch and learn. If you truly want it you'll do it.
Plot in a videogame is the same shot as plot in porn. Unnecessary.
Put your talents into other areas besides vidya.
You can do something if you work independently, however good luck with that. Shit's not easy.
And if you are going to be a "writer", you'd best have other skills. Be a good manager, know how to organize, generally do MORE. Just writing? Anyone could be a writer, and writing is largely not valuable in video games.
>>345150135
What about adventure games
>>345147919
Directors don't write games so I don't get why that's what you want to do.
>>345147919
Premade engines are easier to learn than coding shit from the ground up. Fuck around with default assets, terrain generation, lighting and what not.
AI is a pain in the ass but mostly everything else is relatively simple. Even if you don't succeed I can assure it'll be fun when you make your first shitty island with stationary enemies.
>>345150407
>Anyone could be a writer
This is one of the stupidest things I've ever read, making it clear at least you couldn't be one.
>>345150581
Maybe. But Telltale dominates that these days
>>345147919
This is how you get failed movie-games, OP.
ideas aren't worth shit, they're only worth the effort you put in
considering you're posting on /v/ about it, that's not going so well
>>345147919
>write a decent novel
>get it published
>do this a couple times
>earn credentials as an actual successful writer
>write for videogames
Yes, writing a book and getting it published is hard. But if you want to be involved in videogames on the strength of your writing alone, it needs to be that good.
>>345147919
Ideas guys are not annoying if they have good ideas. What's annoying is when 90% of /v/ say that games are shit and then when they come up with ideas they can only convey some really vague idea for a setting in their head but can in no way explain how it will play out in a game and what game mechanics should be used to tell it.
Get into /tg/ stuff. Tabletop games don't need engines.
Alternatively, work your way into the vidya industry from QA onward.
Worm your way into a design position.
Talk to aggydaggy, see if they need writers or ideaguys.
>tfw just want to be a storyboard writer/plot developer
I wouldn't mind being an asset designer, but I don't have the concentration
>>345150727
>>345147919
RPG Maker was created for people like you.
Don't want to code? Use the pre-made engine and get fancy scripts from other people.
Can't into art? Use RTP (who gives a shit about what people thing about RTP, people sell RTP-full games on Steam and they get money from it) or get free resources from forums and japanese blogs.
Just put your ideas in there and see how shitty they are because you can't write a decent dialogue even if your life depended on it!
>>345147919
One way to get your game made is when showing your game proposal to publishers, mention things like merchandise and mobile spin offs and other stuff and they will buy into that shit immediately, no matter how basic and unoriginal your idea is.
It worked with an old friend of mine. He presented Pokemon Go to Nintendo, Nintendo made him director and hired Niantic to start development on it.
Game ideas?
>Setting: Shareef takeover of the Kasbah
>You're just a young rebellious mudslime who loves rock'n'roll
>Decide enough is enough and make a rock revolution
>You grab your trusty guitar and start wailing on soldiers
>Eventually build up your own rock band
>Combat is like Brütal Legend with less strategy
>Eventually take over the Casbah
But that aint all
>Sitting on your throne as the profaned rock king of the middle east
>Suddenly, you start to recieve word of other bands rising up to power
>M&B strategy comes in
>Keep control of certain areas, manage rock resources
>You can recruit band members of your faction through advertising, concerts, merch, etc.
>Never ending struggle until you once rule the Casbah again
Sound good?
Write up design documents for your games. Shit's harder than it seems unless you're making some Cookie Clicker shit, and is a lot more mechanical than story and dialogue writing.
Learn RPG Maker, or other similar software. No coding required. You will be gimped by it though, as you need to code to make really unique mechanics and stuff. Get used to the interface and prefabs, then start learning basic Ruby. There's no getting around the coding unless you having a partner who can do the coding.
That's the difference between a lazy idea shitter and being productive. Also, your first few projects will probably be shit. Just accept that and practice.
>>345151532
Thought about making a Harvest Moon/Stardew Valley game set in the Wild West. You could have your ranch with cattle and whatever, or you could become a sheriff and defend town from outlaws. Maybe even become an outlaw yourself, and rob travellers.
>>345151532
An isometric/top down dual-stick shooter game where you play as a necromancer.
So instead of bullets, you shoot skeletons that run ahead and attack enemies.
There'd be a bunch of different kinds of skeletons to summon, including ones that you could place farther away from you, like archers, or fatties to block doorways or create cover for yourself.
You become able to summon more and more skeletons at once, until it gets to the point where you are able to summon entire platoons of skeletons at once to take on armies, and conquer the realm.
>>345147919
How can you direct a game if you don't know how to make one in the first place?
>>345149731
I know how to do none of those things and I work at a major game company as a planner. I basically am an ideas guy who has to set up some in-game event triggers and shit using local tools.
And in a few years I'll be an industry vet.
>>345147919
We need more Ideas Guys in gaming, anon, but you can't be the one actually directing games.
More Yoko Taros would be always welcome, it's time we get over those shit stories they feed us.
>>345150407
>anyone can be a writer
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA
>tfw became a published playwright 3 years ago
>tfw interning as a creative writer for a AAA video game company
>mfw it will lead to a job
>mfw all I have is my bachelors in theatre arts
>>345147919
Ideas only have value if they work
>>345154846
fuck yea theatre
I'm getting a BFA in acting and a BS in CS because fuck not doing what you love. Good on you, anon.
>>345147919
You don't have to know how to code, but if you want to write then it has to be stellar. Just take a programming bootcamp to learn the basics.
>>345150865
Yeep. The problem is that every developer and their mom thinks they can do the job of a writer. This is why so many games have atrocious stories.
>>345147919
>https://www.renpy.org/
>http://tkool.jp/
You think you're a decent writer ? Prove it!
You should be able to make either a VN or a RPG, and NO it isn't really code to make them with these tools
>>345147919
Please tell me you're actually planning on writing for the medium and are not just trying to shove a story that would be better used in a novel or film into a game.
>>345150727
>>345154696
Oh you dumb, dumb fucks
Here >>345151069
this is the support. You think for a moment anyone cares whether your writing is good? Fucking retarded, aren't you?
Especially in video games, writing doesn't matter
God, how dumb. What dumb responses.
If you're good with people and getting shit done, you can always be a producer. I know how you feel. I have ideas for games but can't do anything involving art or programming.
>>345153025
sure you are bud
Then write a book nigger. Do you even understand how involved game development is?
>>345150135
hi john
>>345156584
If writing is all you're concerned with, just make Choose-Your-Own-Adventure books. Like the Choice Of games, they're on sale on Steam and for what I've seen some of them are quite decent
>that Not-Dr. Wily one
Name 10 Games that were critically acclaimed for it's story AND it was the main selling point for the game
>>345149731
I want to do concept art, am learning coding, and can do pixel art strangely well for someone with no drawing ability.
How do I get good at drawing?
>>345148170
ideas are worth a dime a dozen.
But great ideas, great ideas are worth millions.
>>345160020
Practice
>>345160209
Million/billion dollar ideas are impossible to gauge. Imagine Notch as a game developer for a major company, and he goes into his boss's office in 2008 and pitches Minecraft. The game would never exist, because its success was an accident. Creation collided with a demand people didn't even know about.
>>345156584
>anyone can be a writer!
>no
>b-bazinga!
Kill thyself, summerfriend
>>345147919
Kojima can't code for shit and look how far he got
>>345147919
>what is creative director
>>345159885
Assuming its just critical acclaim via masses.
Witcher 3
Last of Us
Heavy Rain
Spec OPs
Undershit
SW: Old Republic
Bioshock any
Dragon Age any
Wolf among us, really anything telltales.
Assassins Creed?
>>345147919
I was like you but then I realized I'm not interested in actually making video games but rather make stories in general.
Why not just do that instead?
