I played hundreds, maybe thousands of hours of TF2 until about 2012. Haven't played a lot of video games since then.
Convince me to not buy Overwatch.
All I know about it is that it is very similar to TF2, very popular, and that /v/ complains about bad tick rates. Also tracer butt.
>>345113480
1, the characters have funky legs, and their hips like rotate 90 degrees to very weird walking angles. Anyone playing it for porn has bad taste.
2. The abilities on some characters vary from fun to pointless, with no consistently. Ie, shift is the sprint button on soldier 76. Shift on hanzo is tracking arrow or some shit.
3. It's not fun, plays slow, and tries to give everyone "feel good" points. Ie, no kills or assists, just eliminations. You can't see your team mates death and shit, no score board
Really it's perfect for casuals and normies, ie /v/ because it is some bottom of the barrel shit.
>>345113480
Just buy the damn game, its cheap as fuck
If you don't enjoy it, oh well, it shouldn't break you, right OP?
/v/ is just going to sit here and shitpost about it so they aren't the best audience to ask.
>>345113927
V loves it like you do you fucking moron. Kill yourself
>>345113765
>no kills or assists, just eliminations. You can't see your team mates death and shit, no score board
Really? That's enough. Thanks.
>>345113480
>Very similiar to TF2
That's like saying Heroes of the Storm is similar to League or Doto
>>345114161
All kills and assists are just eliminations. So you see fags post that they had gold medal. It can literallt mean they hit everyone for 1 damage and got the most assists. Pretty babby tier.
>>345113765
This post is really /v/'s criticisms in a nutshell
>Bad tastes
>Stupid
>Plain wrong
>>345113480
it's abso-fucking-lutely nothing like TF2.
the "LoL FPS" label is accurate not because this has anything to do with DotA, but because like LoL, there is only a correct way to play OW. You can only be playing OW. Trying to not play OW, in OW, will probably get you banned. The game just falls apart unless you play along with the script anyway. Its not like TF2 where maybe you just jump on an MG Soldier and have fun and the rest of the server is fine with it, you have to play 6s in "somewhat serious mode" even in quickplay (casual games with no meaning). there are no bid dumb fun servers, no different modes, no mods, no different loadouts, etc.
but anyway as OW, its ok, as long as you want OW out of it and nothing else. the actual FPS mechanics are very poor with babby console networking and hitboxes. The game is simply being in a 4-6 man blob of HP and healing rolling through the middle of the mao, unless you are one of the 1-2 skirmishes that has almost meaningless 1v1 fights with the opponent skirmisher on flanks instead.
>>345114275
Not an argument.
>>345113480
>All I know about it is that it is very similar to TF2
First mistake everyone makes, it plays nothing like tf2 unless you go torb and smack your turret all day.
>>345114389
No, it's commentary you fucking retard
>>345113480
It's a casual game you can play for fun. Competitive isn't competitive because that isn't the nature of the game. Competitive is just people having fun that actually want to work together and win. If you want a good time and don't mind the game being shit go for it.
Here is the major difference in my eyes between this game and other "e-sports": The fun aspects are competitive instead of it's competitive aspects being fun.
Basically it's not a game for autistic people who enjoy a challenge. It's for normal people.
>>345114487
It's retarded commentary. See what I did? I just call3d it retarded without saying why. Now we're shit flinging and you still haven't brought a point up against first post. Kill yourself brain dead retard
>>345113480
Convince you NOT to?
>The fan base consists of a bunch of brats who shout that every character needs to be nerfed because they got killed by them. I have seen petitions for some of the weakest characters to get a nerf.
>as a result, you get blizzard listening to them and nerfing the wrong things.
>There's like, 5 maps and the heroes get old rather quickly
>people leave competitive matches every other match, and with no JIP this results in uneven teams for the entirety of the match.
>playing with friends will probably be the only time you have fun playing.
I played TF2 for about 800 hours, I stopped playing OW after 30.
There aren't many maps (fucking worst part), lack of custom servers sucks, you'll always be playing with randoms who you'll never meet again so don't expect to make new friends, all of the non-KOTH maps seem to have one big corridor before final section turning it into a massive chokepoint.
Certain team combinations just make it a massive chore and not fun even if you win. I had more fun getting BTFO by sentries on Dustbowl.
Overwatch was a 10/10 until Competitive came out.
Now it's about a 7.9/10
No custom server support like tf2. Ie, no modding community. Shit.
>>345114857
>no 24/7 hanamura servers
Boring, shallow, generic online only fps overpriced while having less content than most free to play games, only has two game modes and all the maps feel the same and you play the same ones over and over again.
>>345113480
i had thousands of hours in tf2 but stopped playing in 2011. i came back to it at the start of this year due to muselk's videos and i'm having a great time with it. i was hyped for overwatch so preordered it but after about two weeks of playing it at launch i haven't gone back since. the game lacks depth and good map design. also poor variety in terms of playstyles and maps. definitely not worth the money i paid for it.
>>345113480
if you like tf2. you will like overwatch.
>>345113480
I've played TF2 """""competitively"""""" in UGC Plat and ESEA IM and I frankly got really frustrated at the lack of advanced movement options in OW. That's something you never really notice until you don't have it anymore.
And also in OW it's difficult to do well individually as a player because you have to rely on your team much more to get anything done.
I only really enjoy the game when I play with my friends because it's frustrating individually, you may enjoy it but it's kind of a toss up.
There is nothing Overwatch does that TF2 doesn't already do better.
How about Hi-Rez's most recent game Paladins? It looks kinda neat. Is it better than Overwatch or worse?
It's a fun game OP. People on /v/ will try to tell you it's shit using the same old rhetoric they use for trying to tell you everything is shit. Watch some gameplay, if it like what you see, go for it.
>>345113480
As someone who plays a lot of tf2, it's not that great. It's only fun when you play with friends. In tf2 your team can do shit but still have fun, in overwatch it's not that fun when your team sucks. If you buy it, you will most likely not log hat many hours into the game as tf2 unless blizzard does something about their game. It's only great for 1-2 months then it gets stale from the repetitive maps whereas in tf2 there's a shitton of maps you can play.
>>345113480
If you aren't a blizzdrone, you'll get bored of the game fairly quickly. I bought it on release and I was done with the game within a week. I haven't gone back to it since.
>>345116917
>And also in OW it's difficult to do well individually as a player because you have to rely on your team much more to get anything done.
Fucking this, they are both team games but there is something about overwatch that feels frustrating when you are stuck with a bad team. you kinda feel hopeless and die within a few seconds as soon as you see the enemy.
>>345114308
This desu. OP, if you like LoL, you'll like OW. It has the exact same community, flaws and balance.
>>345118317
>I bought it on release
No you didn't
>>345113480
If Valve could count to 3, this would be TF3 with out gore or the gratification of getting a frag. Literally you can get a 5 killstreak going if you just shoot the enemy player and not kill him. The kill system is set up akwardly where it's done on who has done the most amount off damage instead of the final blow. It holds your hand.
>>345117328
>Stealth heroes
That's all you need to know to know it's an unbalanced piece of shit.
>>345114308
>the "LoL FPS" label is accurate not because this has anything to do with DotA, but because like LoL, there is only a correct way to play OW. You can only be playing OW. Trying to not play OW, in OW, will probably get you banned. The game just falls apart unless you play along with the script anyway. Its not like TF2 where maybe you just jump on an MG Soldier and have fun and the rest of the server is fine with it, you have to play 6s in "somewhat serious mode" even in quickplay (casual games with no meaning). there are no bid dumb fun servers, no different modes, no mods, no different loadouts, etc.
This is one of the more irrefutable complaints about the game, and something I always try to communicate to people when recommending them the game, but it's also half the reason I like the game. It's focused purely on the core 6v6 gameplay and does it well, and isn't a game where you get distracted and play a game within a game. If I get bored of OW, I'll just stop playing OW instead of goofing off ingame, and that's frankly how it should be.
>>345113480
play Paladins instead, it's better and free
though I think it's in closed beta right now so you might have to wait
It's not actually that similar to TF2 outside of the whole fps team capture objective thing.
I mean, I play it quite a bit don't get me wrong, but it's definitely inferior to TF2 as an actual game. Or at least, pre-hattening TF2...
>>345121430
See this guy right here is lying.
>>345120883
>The kill system is set up akwardly where it's done on who has done the most amount off damage instead of the final blow.
But it is actually more reasonable than
>having an intense fight against a tank and deal 499 damage to said tank
>shitty tracer who did nothing and was just teleporting around pews pews around and a bullet gets to your objective and kills it, giving the frag to her.
>CHEERIOS LARD, DUH CARBONITE IS FREE
>>345121668
it has like a million voice lines per character, instead of just "Hello!"
instantly better in my book
Seriously, don't do it. At least not yet. The game is so incredibly barebones with 3 game modes that you have already played to death in tf2. The only draw to this game are the skills, which ultimately imbalance the game to holy hell. Individual skill counts for so much less in this game than in other team shooters and the forced matchmaking just exacerbates this problem.
This comes from a guy who got shilled into buying it by friends.
>mfw overwatch will never have a community that makes maps and models and custom gamemodes ever
Poor Blizzbabies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEe70XveO4A
Meanwhile TF2 players have this to look forward to
>>345121927
>tfw we will never get a real End of the Line update
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aLjwVVNq4s
And the only people playing snowplow are russian memesters
>>345121842
>Voice lines makes a game good
You're actually retarded. Paladins is pure garbage.
>>345122296
they make it fun, which in turns makes it good because the entire point of video games is to have fun
checkmate
>>345122653
>Haha they say more so it's a good game.
Just
JUST
JUST!!
Paladins is awful
>>345122963
they're practically the same game anon. If paladins is awful then so is overwatch, but at least you don't have to pay for it
>>345123107
Except it's not. Paladins is some moba shit where you can't even switch mid match nor stack or anything. Paladins isn't the same and I'm not even claiming OVerwatch is the best game it's nothing to tf2 but Paladins is just actual shit.
>>345123315
>moba shit
I think you're confusing Paladins with Smite
Paladins has a Payload mode that is exactly the same as Overwatch and TF2's Payload modes
>>345121798
This. Overwatch is a team game, and thus it rewards team plays that get kills. Otherwise you'd get what happens in most other FPSs where kids will get mad over their KDRs and kill stealing. The focus of OW is the objective. It's winning the match, not racking up a high kill count.
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>>345123315
also
>where you can't even switch mid match nor stack
pic related
>>345123540
so? it's still hero select moba shit retard.
>>345124142
>competitive overwatch
Nigga you take that game too seriously kill yourself.
You'll like it if you don't compare it to tf2 or think about tf2 because it's disappointing compared to tf2. But it's way better and enjoyable than most FPSs
>>345124142
>we can't bother to actually balance the game so heroes aren't overpowered so we're going to limit your options
Wew
>>345119751
You're right.Technically I pre-ordered.
It would be better if there were more KOTH maps. Those are the best.
>>345114161
There is a kill counter you can enable if that's what you mean by scoreboard, you can also see if someone is dead by looking at the team menu.
>>345113480
I'm not going to try to convince you otherwise
ive played thousands of hours of TF2 and CSGO, this is by far the most fun I have had playing a Non-military like shooter. Some people sucks with characters, some are freaking amazing, iv'e seen healing classes rack up kills and do cool stunts with lucio. it takes skill to git gud, but normies can still enjoy it because of the casual games you can choose to play, or the ranked for people who want more comp.
its 40 dollars, and content in the form of loot boxes are handed to you each level, odds are you wont have to spend a cent on that skin you want, it will drop or you rack up enough gold to get it. fuck if ou do like it refund it, i refunded d3 after over 70 hours on it and they did it, you don't have much to lose besides a good time, and /v/ is normally always wrong about games, hates on them, then when they die down they complain about how good they were
>>345125092
>its 40 dollars, and content in the form of loot boxes are handed to you each level
>skins
>content
Not OP, but I get nausea from a lot of first person games, did anybody with a similar problem try it?
>>345126506
Is it an FOV thing for you? There's some FOV settings.
It's kinda boring after investing 100+ hours into it. Few maps, predictable shit. I have over 2k hours in TF2 so makes sense.
I think what the game could really use is some maps which are akin to TF2 KOTH games where most of the round is spent just killing each other but there is still an objective. The timers need to be longer on points I feel, to cap them at least, or longer games in general, but of course as an option because its nice to have the short and satisfying games as well.
Just my opinion, it's a solid game in my view and is fine as it is, 'objectively'.
Well, shit. I guess I'll try it after all, without expecting too much. Hopefully Blizzard is really as good with refunds as described by >>345125092.
>>345127115
I'm not sure, I think it works like car sickness, my mind is seeing movement and my inner ear gets confused about not following it or something.
That's why I'm asking if anybody has experience with it in this game.
>>345113480
>haven't played a lot of video games in 4 years
>still knows the latest /v/ memes and shitpostings
>>345127551
Yeah. I actually remember that I stopped playing every major release around 2009. Not sure why. Probably burned out from pirating and finishing every single piece of shit AAA game. I mostly played FIFA and TF2 after that. Maybe 10 other games besides that, mostly classics that I missed. And Dark Souls. But I never stopped coming here for some reason. So I always knew what was going on with video games. Thanks for reading my shitty, boring story.
>>345113480
>Convince me to not buy Overwatch.
Autoaim+terrible hitboxes+"favor the shooter" because you're a child who can't be trusted to aim
>>345121303
Just because you can't go invisible doesn't mean there is no stealth heros
Even then PTR leaks have already shown that Sombra is going to be a disguise focused character
>>345128712
Have you always been a habitual liar?
>>345121927
that looks neat but it will be instantly ruined when you see a lime green and pink scout and gibus pyro running around
also balance issues
>>345113480
Its team fortress with girls, if you stopped playing TF2 you mostly likely will stop playing this too
The porn is amazing tho
>>345128903
TF2 has girls.
>>345124142
You can still switch characters, just not to another character that someone is already using
and if you are doing that in the first place your are probably being a useless cunt
>>345128827
what, and overwatch isn't ruined when you see a punk tracer or a mako roadhog?
>also balance issues
even tf2 community maps go through more beta testing than blizzard ones.
>>345128648
No auto aim unless you mean 76
Hitboxes have been fixed
Shooters advantage is pretty aids as fast characters like Genji or Tracer but other than that you don't notice it much
>inb4 shill
I enjoy the game a bit and think people should give it a shot
>>345128761
Explain
>>345129029
The cosmetics fit with the Artstyle and setting
Don't look appealing but they have their reason for being there
Longer testing doesn't garuentee good balance
>>345129029
>what, and overwatch isn't ruined when you see a punk tracer or a mako roadhog?
Overwatch: Quirky, colorful design, made to accommodate new skins with pop culture references.
TF2: Focused, specific design set in the 60s mixed with old timey sci-fi, which is completely destroyed with particle effect meme hats.
SHIT
Why not just play both? That's what I do. There's no reason to pick a side.
>>345129653
>quirky
Where is Overwatch quirky? Every cinematic has been super serious melodramatic shit.
>>345131764
The cinematics don't fit.
>>345131764
It's a good thing they aren't making cosmetics for the cinematics
Because TF2 had kooky, enjoyable characters.
Overwatch is a bunch of cancerous tryhards and stereotypes.
>>345131984
No they don't, at all. Heard the McCree trailer at Gamestop, then saw the threads, and thought WTF?
This whole game is stupid.
>>345132091
>Because TF2 had kooky, enjoyable characters.
Yes. But come on, they're stereotypes too.
>play Genji for 99% of the match
>about to lose, payload about 25m away from final destination
>swap to reaper for the last 35 seconds
>wonder if I make it in time
>kill 5/6
>get potg
reaper OP
if youre playing randoms its basically a coinflip to win
>>345113480
no reason not to, have some fun anon
>>345132445
It always is in team games.
bought ow during open beta. Havent touched it since i calibrated at 60 something in competitive, been playing tf2 instead. After few days of playing ow started feeling like a chore instead of a fun game, also it has too many hitscan weapons, the ones that arent hitscan are huge hitbox projectiles that will hit you if they land withing 1m of your own hitbox. The game is huge fail from technical standpoint, starting from netcode and ending with how it processes input ( some autist measured ~60ms input lag in overwatch in best possible scenario on unreal hardware vs ~20ms input lag in csgo on shitty toasters ). Its fine on consoles i guess but i heard its just all about stacking torbjorns.
>>345113480
you should form your own opinions instead of looking for validation on a tibetan RC plane enthusiasts forum
There is something really creepy about reaper, he reminds me of those school shooter autists that you have in the usa
>>345113480
20 tick rate is shit and results in some retarded deaths. I really with they change the tick rate, but other than that it's pretty fun.
>>345132287
Granted, yes, but that was the focus of the comedy. It didn't take itself seriously.
To anyone complaining that a assist of 1hp is an elimination, you can check the 'final blow' stat which actually indicates how many of those eliminations were actually yours.
The game is 5/10 without friends and 8/10 with them. I can say I'm still having a blast like early tf2 days, but due to its 6x6 nature, it makes me much more stressed when I lose.
>>345113480
>TF2
i was going to recommend battleborn but it's dead on PC
poor fuckers
>talking to friend who has 100 hours on battleborn pc, he absolutely loved it
>sad as fuck it died
i'm gonna order it off amazon soon i'm hype
>>345133059
eating shit alone without friends is 1/10
participating in shit eating contest with friends is 8/10
this game isn't even anything like TF2
>>345132091
>Boston kid who is full of himself
>Dumb American
>Texan that goes yee-haw
>Stronk Russian
>Drunk Scott
>Crazy Doctor
>Lady Killer French Man
>Not stereotypes
>>345125005
We want to see k/d/a for everyone you fifthy casual
>>345130654
jewsdid911
>>345134095
>participating in shit eating contest with friends is 8/10
don't make me link scat porn anon
>>345135302
The Texan is a genius, the Scott is black and the doctor is Josef Mengele. But yeah.
>>345133868
>custom hud for TF2
>fov as far back before getting to model-issue levels
>fov for OW is set near minimum
I'm actually a little upset.
>>345113480
It's shit.
Now, if you buy it, you will be known as a buyer of shit, a consumer of shit, a shit monger. How embarrassing.
>>345135613
Didn't take me that long. Still downloading though.
>>345113480
>All I know about it is that it is very similar to TF2
