Build a gaming PC with equivalent performance at the same or lower price.
Go ahead.
That's impossible
>>345108171
SONY WON AGAIN
Done
Here you go f-am.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nS1l2hrH4qQ
>>345108258
a garbage Steam Machine rip-off with paid online isn't a PC
>>345108096
Why would I want a PC that weak?
>>345108289
Oh, and here's another.
It can run GTAV at 36fps at 720p just like PS4 and the computer only cost $150.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WjEoDHrawk
>>345108096
>equivalent performance
why the fuck would anyone want that?
>>345108579
and another
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qklmC_7q3HA
>>345108579
those $150 cover only a second-hand processor and a second-hand graphics card.
No mobo
No ram
No power supply
No keyboard
No Tower
No cables
Eat shit.
>>345108258
He said equivalent performance anon.
Not sub 720p 30 fps.
>>345108258
He said equivalent performance, the Xbox One S is still less powerful than the PS4.
>>345108096
That's not how you do it you autist. You build a beast of a pc for around $600 then occasionally upgrade it so around the time a console comes out you upgrade your graphics card and processor for less than buying a console.
>>345108096
A laptop from 1998 could open the image you posted so that's already getting 2 times more FPS than any ps4 game.
>>345108750
and another
this one was only $100
$200 less and it can run 1080 60fps Skyrim
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqP2xvMYXHc
(btw sorry if these videos are a bit much for you to understand)
>>345108096
Why?! LOL
>>345108579
GTA V runs at 1080p on both PS4 and Xbox One.
>>345108984
>good gaming PC under $1000
Good luck with that, moite.
>>345109068
it can run 1080 on the budget PC too.
720 just gives it a slight framrate improvement.
>>345109191
It's just a starting point. You wait until newegg or someone has a sale and upgrade you're components
>>345108959
It does 4k streaming of video, which since consoles have no games anyways basically makes it more powerful.
>>345109191
Are you serious?
pcpartpicker.com/list/tXvsZ8
that wasn't even hard.
>>345109191
>paying $1000 just to play games
>paying $1000 to not be able to play FFXV
>>345109374
>basically makes it more powerful.
Except it doesn't at all
PS4 still runs Witcher 3, Doom, and most games at 1080p with higher framerates than the Xbox One S. That 4K streaming really means a lot when you're playing games at effectively 720p resolution.
If you just want a 4K streaming device, buy one that actually supports Dolby Vision, like a Roku 4, which is 1/3rd the price.
>>345109596
this whole thread is filled with proof you can make a gaming computer for under $399 and you're just gonna say you gotta pay $1000?
>>345109596
>hyped for ffxv
>buying it right when comes out
>not getting it on a steam sale with improved graphics and knowing whether or not it's a shit game
I remember the days when I used to be a dumb console retard thinking how it was superior to play on console.
Then I saw the light.
I can understand getting a PS4 since it has a couple of nice exclusives. But an xbox? I have yet to see a game exclusive to that shit.
WiiU is nice if you want an expensive paperweight.
>>345109198
PC logic
>>345109191
Unless you're a retard aiming for 4K @ 120fps then yeah, good luck with that.
>>345110123
4k @ 120fps is unbelievable though. It's good to know that on pc you have the option to do that if you really want to
>>345109879
I've been waiting for this game for ten years. I was 14 in high school when it was first announced; now I'm 24 and some of my classmates are now married with children with careers. I do not want to wait another five-to-ten years to play this game.
>>345108750
>$25 mobo
>$46 CPU
>$20 ram
>$10 refurbished drive
>$73 graphic card
>$26 case
until you plug it in and you realize you don't have a plug, because you didn't buy a PSU. Then you buy a PSU, plug it in, and realize you don't have an OS.
>>345108096
I have a job. Why the fuck should I cheap out on my hobby and receive an inferior experience?
>>345109965
WiiU is nice because full scale piracy has hit it, so while it only has about 4-5 good exclusives, it's still more worthwhile than a ps4 or xbone. I own both a wii u and ps4, and while bloodborne is fun I'm not as enamored with it as I was when I played bayo 2.
>>345109713
But all those games you mentioned are way better on PC anyways, so who would want to play them on console? Especially doom, lol console FPS. So if you're going to play no games, might as well play no games with 4k streaming.
>>345110102
>toning down the resolution in order to get a better framerate is too much for consoleplebs to understand
This is basic shit, how can you be so technologically naive?
And yet NONE of these PC's come with any kind or warranty.
Better make sure you assemble your PCs carefully cause if you don't ground yourself and ending up frying your Mobo before even turning it on you're fucked and have to buy another
>>345110310
40 bucks for the EVGA one.
OS? If you're a complete retard you just download ubuntu.
If you're not you can get legit Windows 7 for free.
wew dat was hard.
>>345108096
this is /v/, you have to specify that you CAN NOT recycle any components from a "current PC" except maybe a monitor, mouse, and keyboard.
>>345110265
If I was in the same position i might splurge for a ps4 but I find it really fucking hard to be hyped for a final fantasy game in 2016. I mean I'm a little bit hopeful and think it has a chance to be great but then I remember xiii
>>345110484
I don't agree with this, if you have to lower the resolution to get an acceptable framerate (with the exclusion of 4k to lower resolution) you might as well buy a console.
>>345108351
>>345108738
>>345110395
It highlights a problem of market inaccessibility. It's not viable to make PC exclusives if only a wealthy minority of gamers can play it.
>>345110592
No need to worry about that, PC owners tend to be more intelligent than console owners and are less prone to fucking up.
>>345110474
>So if you're going to play no games, might as well play no games with 4k streaming.
If you're going to not play games might as well get a Roku 4 as it supports way more streaming services than the Xbox One and you'll save $200.
>>345110310
$40-60 PSU, steamOS, or Ubuntu,, or $20 Windows 7 key from kinguin or something. Or just pirate it.
>>345108096
PS4 games run with low resolution, with perfect optimized games on only 30 fps
The whole components are cheap: cheat power supply and other cheap parts.
>>345110592
Amazon is lenient as fuck yo. I made the mistake of updating the BIOS trough ASUS own fucking software and shit stopped working.
They refunded, no problem.
>>345108096
Gaming is a hobby for meSo why would I want to play games on a budget machine? I'm not poor.
>>345108890
What is the diference ith consoles
>No Online
>Expensives games
>Expensive controlls
>Expensive memory
All is expensive using console.
>>345110484
When this board spends as much time pissing about resolution as much as it does frame rate
Then goes as far to suggest compromising resolution just to get a frame boost that most likely isn't even consistent
>>345108096
Haha my friend! You just have to buy this $100
i3 cpu and some budget $199 Nvidia. Its already less than 300$! You just have to scrape the rest, maybe find it in a dumpster.
Check my Youtube channel - CuckboyMasterRaceOver9001 to find a video where i play GTAV in 1080p on $199 PC build - i just bought some Nvidia card and found rest for free in my basement.
>>345110732
Yeah true, who the fuck would ever buy an xbone, especially since all exclusives are coming to pc.
>>345110873
>Amazon is lenient as fuck yo
yup, I've returned so much shit that was perfectly fine. Honestly never buy anything online anywhere else now unless it's substantially cheaper because at least with Amazon I know I can always return it. Plus dat 2 day shipping and 3% cashback.
>>345108096
Why would I spend time and effort building pc with completely shit performance
>>345110668
Yeah that's only for when you have a budget computer, e.g. that $150 GTAV computer.
Why would you literally spend twice as much money on a console even though both run nearly identical?
I don't know the exact framerate for GTAV on ps4 but i'm just gonna assume it's 30fps after playing it on ps4 my self, the budget PC runs 21 fps at 1080, I ain't spending an extra $150 just to get an extra 9 frames.
>>345108909
But that is equivalent to the ps4 :^)
>>345110727
This is the definition of an opinion
>>345111119
Try joining a game on gta and come back and tell me the fps
>>345111068
Not only that but they actually give a shit about their customers.
>>345108096
Find a brand new PS4 for $300
Still near impossible at $350 though, launch was the best time to match the PS4 with a similarly priced PC
I dont think anyone would seriously argue that building a $300 pc would be ideal in any situation.
Its low price is consoles only strength right now since there hasnt been fuckall for games this gen.
Then again how many of the people here bought consoles on release and paid well over $600 for them?
Ive only had a decent pc for a few years and cringe remembering how fucking retarded i was defending the 360 and ps3.
>>345111119
that's a fair enough statement if money is an issue, PC is always the better option, consoles are designed for mass consumption and what people don't understand is that if they simply didn't buy a console and then a few games but instead saved a month or two extra and built a mid tier PC they could run gta at almost max/1080@60 for about 650 dollars.
I converted long ago from console, here in Australia most new release games are 120 usd which is about 90 usd.
>>345110873
I always used newegg so that's where my point came from
>>345108096
>Sonyggerse still THIS mad
you guys just can't stop being butthurt right?
Dailly reminder
>>345110668
Force yourself out of several options, including control devices, personalized options, player created content and on top of that, pay an additional fee for using the internet you already pay for peer-to-peer multiplayer and free games (as long as you keep paying) because you knocked the resolution down a peg.
All this for a machine that will be obsolete in less than half a decade, forcing you to make another $600 purchase just, JUST be able to even play newer games. Which will still be released below the bar of standards.
>>345110265
Being hype for FF titles when you're over 10yo... really now, anon, don't be silly
>>345111341
Meant the fps of the ps4 (which is around 20 in multi)
>>345111357
>Ive only had a decent pc for a few years and cringe remembering how fucking retarded i was defending the 360 and ps3.
What advice do you have for those in your old mindset?
>>345111447
>newegg
I tried buying from them once. Their draconian rules were enough for me to not do it.
Case in point:
>Buy gfx card off Amazon and newegg
>Comes with game code
>Amazon refunds full amount, keep game, no questions asked
>newegg deducts 60 from your refund
yeah no, fuck newegg
>>345111530
Few franchises have bought me so much wonder and majesty as this.
>>345111346
I once had a price match refund given and then I returned the item because it wasn't what I wanted, and they refunded me the full purchase price + the $35 or whatever they had already previously refunded me. I called them to report it and they were like "just keep the extra money"
>>345111363
That's rough man. If I lived there I wouldn't buy shit with those insane prices considering I get the majority of my games at $2-$20
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/Tpc7WX
GEEKS AND NERDS ALIKE
BUILD A TOTAL PC (comes with Windows, Monitor, Keyboard, and Mouse) THAT CAN RUN GAMES LIKE BATTLEFIELD 1 AT 30FPS 900p STABLE WHILE STAYING UNDER $300
GO
BONUS POINTS FOR BUILDS THAT CAN FIT NICELY INTO A HOME THEATER SETTING WITHOUT LOOKING GAUDY
>>345108096
Already did. It's called not spending another 600$ on another console and just upgrading my GPU.
>MFW OC'd sandy bridge masterrace from 2011
>>345111879
Show me a ps4 build for $300 that includes a tv and 10 years of ps+ and I'll do that for you.
doesn't sony sell the ps4 at a loss?
>>345111786
How the fuck do they do it? Every other company would just sue your ass or some shit.
What is everybody's obsession with making it the same price or cheaper? Wouldn't you want to buy a computer that better by a larger margin if you are even going to get a PC?
Also adding peripherals devices to the equation is ridiculous considering the large price difference between a good monitor/etc and a good TV.
>>345110620
>j-just pirate an OS!
>o-or use one that doesn't work with any games!
yeah, ok.
Well, I guess I could just steal a PS4 and then the PS4 is cheaper than any windows machine.
Dumbass.
>>345111860
>AMD FX-4300
>GTX 750 Ti 2GB
>>345112327
>>j-just pirate an OS!
Do you understand the meaning of the word LEGIT?
Or are you perhaps too retarded? Oh that's right you're a consolefag. Nevermind the question.
>>345108351
>>345108738
>>345110395
>>345110910
>>345112308
We weren't all born in families with trust funds.
>>345111624
Thats tough to say since you really need some time with a good pc to see what makes it special. In my case i had to build one.
However the meme that you need to drop $1000 off the bat just to play is stupid.
I bought a shitty pc off craigslist for $100 and just started building it up over time.
Seeing that the pc really only needs a decent cpu and gpu to run well, you really can get away with spending a few hundred bucks off the bat and add in better parts over time.
I see myself in a lot of console ppsters. Its the " i dont have one so i must defend my console" despite never having touched a decent pc in your life.
Pc has a shit load to offer, but if youre content with what a console gives you, thats fine.
These "fuck you, build a pc" types are morons.
>>345108096
>Build a gaming PC with equivalent performance at the same or lower price.
>equivalent performance
>to a ps4
they don't sell parts that outdated anymore.
>>345110685
>wealthy minority
It's really not that expensive. You're either a literal kid or a console drone, and unless you're providing for 3 children and still work at Mcdonalds or something there is literally no reason why you shouldn't be able to afford a $500-900 rig for med-ultra modern games.
>>345112375
>implying the ps4 cpu and gpu are any better
I was asked to make a shitty pc for $300 and thats what I did. If you want similar performance to ps4 there you go. Actually I accidentally put in a 5400rpm hard drive instead of a 7200rpm one but fuck it.
>>345111879
>Comes with Monitor
Didn't know you could buy a PS4 with a free TV nowadays.
>>345108096
Well, PCs are for well adjusted employed adults so if your mommys allowance isn't enough to spend at least 600$ on a device you're going to use daily, maybe you should stick with consoles.
>>345112091
Everyone already has a TV in their home. And using a computer on a TV is shit, but if you can't do what I ask, then don't consider yourself superior to consoles. :)
>>345108096
You know Sony builds these at a loss, right?
Besides
>>345112308
>>345111978
>>345112091
>>345108096
If you buy a 600$ pc and pirate 6 AAA games you already made up for the extra costs of the system.
Where do you find a ps4 for $300? Isn't that shit $350 still?
Also xbox 1 has insane bundles going on right now. Time to go xbox 1 / PC mustard race.
>>345108096
>$299
>no official mouse and keyboard support
>paid online
>can't 4K
>30fps
>most popular and high selling online games are dude bro titles
>ships with sub 1tb drive if you buy the cheap model
>already being replaced by a superior model
>best games are nip only and if you can't read moon you won't be able to play them(PC easily fixes this problem)
>no monster hunter
I literally would not pay even $100 for this thing. I already have a blu-ray drive, and most multiplats are also available on the PC.
>>345112836
>homes without tvs
is this the 1800s
there are more homes with tvs than there are homes with monitors
using a computer with a tv is a shit experience, but it's nice you're literally so far up your own ass, still can't provide the basics I ask, and STILL wind up thinking you're superior
LOLOLOLOL
>>345109749
This whole thread is filled with proof of people 'building' garbage PCs with lists longer than my arm of caveats.
>Hello guys today we are going to build a PC for uder the cost of a console. First start with moving your old PC into a new room, now you are halfway there! Next put in the used like new GPU you bought off ebay, and there you have it. Instant PS4 KILLER
That is how all of this shit is. The proper answer to OP's question is: You can't. For the price, the PS4 runs video games quite well with the limited hardware it has to do so.
>>345110668
hahahahaha yeah get a console with maybe two games that are worth playing over the hundreds of games PC has great idea dude
also >>345111512 fucking destroyed you
>>345108096
why do people always use this argument
a console is essentially a pc that is stripped of all its capabilities except playing games and be a basic media player. The hardware is designed specially to cater to those needs and those needs only so they can save production costs to make the price tag more appealing than a pc. devs then make games in ways that can run optimally and looks decent because the hardware of every console is the same unlike pc which has users using different generations of cpus and gpus and is impossible optimize games for so pc has slightly higher costs to get the same performance
>>345112967
you can connect your PC to a television. in fact, it would be better if you did since it gives you the option of free cable, free movie streaming and free music.
>>345112239
they make tons of money and idiots like me spend thousands on amazon each year. They'd gladly lose $35 to keep me buying everything there and subscribing to prime.
>spending $500+ to sit at fucking desk to enjoy your hobby
No thanks I sit at desk enough at work.
Plus what do you do when your friends all play on console? I'm sure you guys play with yourselves enough already.
>>345108096
I can build a PC for 100 dollars more that will play most games of this and next generation
>>345112967
Using a console with a TV is shit, too, but you seem content with that.
>>345112901
SRS where can I find a ps4 bundle at $300 senpai.
>>345112967
Well sure if you're a poorfag and want to game in your parent's TV it makes sense.
We're talking about personal gaming though.
You know, being old enough to buy the TV you want instead of the ones your parents can afford.
>>345113187
I used to think prime was a rip, but then I realized I was spending nearly $1200 a year on amazon, and that $99 could cover the shipping cost of all of that shit.
It's an 'I can play games in 4K on my 21" monitor' episode
>>345112967
>y-you can't use a PC with a TV! That would undermine my entire argument!
lol I like how you are trying to pass it off as if its something unspeakable. I use a monitor and a TV for my PC and they are both great experiences. Stay retarded.
>>345112675
Yes, just like 5% better, and the FX-4300 is a fucking mess, basically a dual-core with shitty power consumption, so what's the point? Even the old Phenoms were better.
>>345113257
>Plus what do you do when your friends all play on console?
They don't, so that's a non-issue.
>>345113257
>Plus what do you do when your friends all play on console?
You had a valid point with the work thing. But that shit makes you a tool.
>Oh my friends eat shit so I have to too you know!
>>345110620
I want to see a PC with unbuntu playing Grand Theft Auto V.
>>345113407
Yeah, prime is easily worth $100 a year if you're buying stuff on amazon regularly. I usually get at least 2 items from amazon a week and I always use 2 day shipping. Amazon now is also in my area now so I might have to try that out as well, although the selection is much smaller.
>>345112870
>pc - 315
>monitor - 100
>os - free lol
>steam - free lol
>total 415
ps4- 300
tv -free lol because everyone has one lmao
>ps+ - 50(5) = 250
>total - 550
:^)
>>345113257
>Doesn't know you can you can use a controler and plug a PC into a TV
>>345113694
How's that reading comprehension working for you, son?
>>345113257
What do you do when all your friends just play mobile games?
The "expensive as fuck PC gaming" stuff is such a meme it's unbelievable. When I first got my gaming PC years ago, I worked a min. wage job, sorta saved for about 3 months and by the end of that time I'd gotten an amazing $1200 or more PC. Those who say PC is unaffordably expensive are fucking NEET poorfags who're too fat to fucking work. Shit rustles me so much. Can't believe people are so lazy.
>>345113546
Lords of the fallen - PC
Mighty no.9 - PC
GTAV - PC
One Piece Burning Blood - PC
Teslagrad - PC
Dishonored - PC
Fallout 4 - PC
Shadow Warrior - PC
Neptunia VII - PC
Dragon Quest Heroes - PC
Dragon Age Inquisition - PC
Why aren't you playing Bloodborne and Uncharted?
>>345113641
>>345113679
>>345113843
>>345113963
These are all great counter arguments /s
>>345114190
what do you do when your friends are sucking your moms cock?
>>345114190
>unable to argue against them
Apparently they are.
>>345113257
This is how you identify the beta male of the group. The one that follows instead of leading.
>>345114336
Ya got me. What do I do?
>>345114458
ya help em out
>>345114561
But then I would just be following. What else do you suggest I do?
>>345114634
Suck your dad's cock.
You won't be following anymore.
>>345111452
Who is mad? The guy asked a question. Is the question a bullshit reason for shit posting? Yes. That said, what if he wasn't fishing for (you)s, and was serious? You can't build a PC for that price that is even remotely close to playing games with any parity. I'd say good luck playing games at all on a PC of that cost.
>>345108096
add $50 to that for free online, and this is more than $20 cheaper than $350
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/chbD2R
this shit isn't hard, and you could take off another $20 if you wanted a 750ti, which outperforms the ps4 anyway
now, what would be even funnier would be to see you cry about how ridiculous PC components scale compared to consoles per dollar; for the price of two consoles you can have one pc that outperforms both by close to 4x
>>345108909
You're right, your ps4's 33 frames per second is much more impressive.
>>345114903
b-b-but you have to include the cost of a monitor, keyboard, mouse, mouasepad, desk, your electric bill, water bill, the cost of the house otherwise IS NOT FAIR!
>>345114868
Except I'll be just like the rest of you faggots.
Why do people think its completely unreasonable to blow $1000 on a hobby you sink so much time and effort into doing and discussing?
>>345115064
Then suck on your friend's dad cock.
Problem solved.
>>345114903
>if you wanted a 750ti, which outperforms the ps4 anyway
Not anymore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jylJBpCEMSc
>>345114903
os and peripherals, $30 for psn gives you 48 games. Steam can't compete.
https://pcpartpicker.com/forums/topic/169047-250-gaming-pc
>comment recommends just to buy an xbone pcdrones BTFO
>comparing a 4 year old device to one brand new
You could easily buy a 4 year old PC that beats the PS4 for far less than $299
>>345108096
Why was the ps3 like famously 599 US DOLLARS
but this stronger console is half that price
what the fucking hell!?
>>345115184
It's good to see you're putting your overbuilt shitpost machine to good use.
>>345115273
>$30 for psn gives you 48 games.
That you can only play while you're on the service. AKA while you're getting fucked on the ass you get these games.
>>345115341
You can. Even an AMD (Iol) setup can do this. If you go second hand, you can easily find a used HD 7970 at 100 bucks that's more than overkill when up against the PS4.
>>345115190
to be fair, the consoles outperform in DOOM because they have a varying resolution scale feature. if PC had modular resolution scale features it would, so where the 750ti has framedrops the consoles have resolution drops to maintain performance
>>345115273
I didn't recommend that build, I recomended my own
>$30 for peripherals
$20, and you dont have a mouse and keyboard or *any* controller?
also
>there are no free games on PC
wew lad, and they're all better than PSN scraps
also
>le hidden added cost meme
is far, far worse on consoles than on PC
>expensive controllers
>expensive games
>paid online subscriptions
and lets not forget
>paying for HD remakes
>>345115436
PS3 had a Blu-ray player when Blu-ray was really expensive and new, and the PS3 had a separate CPU and GPU that were reasonably good in 2006 that had to be manufactured separately.
The PS4 and Xbox One were smarter because both components were integrated meaning it could be built entirely by TSMC (and later GlobalFoundries)
>>345115436
>what the fucking hell!?
PS4 doesn't use the latest specs so obviously it's cheaper, there's also the whole BD thing as well.
>>345115494
No you just need an internet connection. The same type of connection you yourself need to continue shitposting. The same connection you use to search for BBC porn and then proceed to peg yourself.
>>345115492
My job's computer ain't prebuilt tho.
it's nice to know you don't even use your console tho.
>>345115592
>he consoles outperform in DOOM because they have a varying resolution scale feature
The PS4 version very rarely uses it, watch the video. Even when it does drop it's lowest point was like 1700x1080.
The real reason the consoles outperform in Doom is both the PS4 and Xbox One use graphics APIs that support async. I'm betting that test re-run on the AMD hardware using Vulkan would make the results much closer.
>>345108890
>No cables
Those usually come with the motherboard and graphics card but you are totally right
>>345115787
yes, a 7950 running Vulkan would BTFO any console without breaking a fucking sweat
WHERE DO I BUY PS4 FOR JUST $299??
PLEASE AND THANK YOU
>>345108890
Do you even know what an optiplex is? It's basically an entire computer
>>345115746
How bout you get off your ass and get some work done. I can shitpost from the comfort of my phone while out in the field putting in my hours.
>>345108289
Used parts. Lol.
>>345115273
>$60 psn for 48 games
>steam has like 1,200 for the low cost of zero
>>345115727
>Once downloaded, the games are yours to keep and play as long as you are a member of PlayStation Plus.
Keep getting fucked in the ass.
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2010/06/24/playstation-plus-your-questions-answered/
>>345112467
Make your own fucking money neetfag
>>345115938
I already finished my work. That's how efficient I am. And it's boring having to wait for the next assignment so I wast time on /v/ arguing with idiots.
>>345112327
Holy fuck you're retarded. A stolen PS4 isn't cheaper than a stolen windows machine.
Still waiting to see ps4 bundles at $300 links posted.
>>345112467
It's called having a job and saving money you filthy neet.
>>345112308
The thread you are in tells you the rules. Build a PC with equivalent performance and PRICE. It is trying to prove the point that for the PRICE the PS4 is leagues more powerful than a PC of equivalent cost. It is working on the logic that you only have $299I'm assuming plus local taxesto spend on gaming. You can't build a PC for that cost that nets equivalent performance. Until you start playing the take parts from your existing PC and work from there road.
Of course people would want to buy a computer that creams the consoles with better performance, but that isn't what the OP wants to discuss.
>>345110310
He said that the fucking PSU was included in the case.
A PC is good until you play a shitty console ported game. I'm looking at you, Arkham Knight.
PCMR is only a meme.
>>345115592
>console comes with a controller and a headset
>you can actually sell your games after you're done playing them
>buy nuddom for $38 on release
>resell for $45 on craigslist
>make profit on console
>pc doestn even have crack
>even if it did have crack you cant playm multiplayer
>48 games for $30 cant compete with steam sales
>dead space, bioshock, ass creed all $5 during steam sale so already half of the price jsut from three triple aaa titles
>furi is $25 on steam
>rocket league is $20 on steam
>psn already pays itself with 2 games, how can steam compete
>free games on steam? so you're saying you play dota all day? pc has no games
>>345112467
Get a job.
>>345108096
PC fags stumped again!
>>345108890
It's okay,you can use the money that you won't have to pay for playing online
>>345116332
>a PC is good until you play a bad game
hmmmmmmm
and even these so called "trainwreck shitty ports" still outperform consoles lmao
Unity and Arkham are the examples im thinking of
>>345116291
A ps4 cost's 350 retail. Add in 50 bucks just to play your games online and you're at 400.
For 400 bucks you can build a pc that absolutely shits on the ps4 and is at least twice as powerful.
>>345114190
You're not the brightest, are you?
What do you do if your friends all play PC?
Both
1. Aren't arguments
2. Aren't answerable
>>345116161
>Expecting consolefags to have a brain
Heh, good one.
>>345110265
>24 married with children
Why would they do this
>>345113974
Yeah you're probably an autistic shut in with nothing else to spend his expendable income on. Having an active social life or having a girlfriend will eat up all that $400 a month income
>>345115901
Okay, but how is that relevant? He said a 750Ti would outperform the PS4, which is no longer true (see DOOM)
Obviously a 7950 would beat both the PS4 and a 750Ti with Vulkan
>>345115494
wait you cant play them offline? damn xbox is better
>>345116352
Sorry, but Humble bundle monthly subscription gets you more games that you don't lose when you unsubscribe from it, and it's cheaper than PSN.
>>345116332
So a PS3 is only good until you play a shitty ported game?
Bayonetta played awful on PS3.
>>345116425
>pay retail price for consoles even though you can get better deals online for systems and PS+
>go to flea markets, second hand shops, craigslist, and ebay to buy PC components to get the price down the $400
really?
>>345116604
Yes, you can play them offline on both consoles.
>>345108096
Remember anon its 300 dollars plus your yearly subscription to PS+ thats required to even take advantage of the features of your system
>>345111879
> paying for operating systems
KEK
>>345116750
You can get a pc that shits on the ps4 at retail price for 400. Not even talking about second hand stuff. Though that would make it cheaper than 400 dollars
>>345108096
Build me a gaming PC at the price of an Ouya. Can't? Then the Ouya is objectively better :o)
>>345116850
>>345116604
It means you have to pay to have access to the games sony supposedly gave you for "free"
>>345115273
You don't need peripherals for ps4? News to me.
You can get an os for $15 like I did, and if we're moving the goalposts to include games, PC has
1. Cheap graymarket games
2. Frequent sales
3. Giveaways (origin does regularly)
>99% of pc users own or have owned consoles at one time
>their opinion has some merit and they prefer pc
>maybe 20% of console users have even seen a good pc IRL
>were supposed to trust that their opinion means anything
>acts as if anyone that uses pc has never touched a console their whole lives
This always gets me.
>>345116981
Sonyggers think that you need to buy a whole new keyboard mouse and TV/monitor because the one you're using now is unusable
>>345111119
>>345111111
almost check'd
>>345116880
>stealing operating systems
wow, hey look I just got a PS4 for free at bestbuy
>>345115492
The biggest irony of consolefags is that they're typing off PCs anyways
>>345117064
If I want to actually play something like Counter Strike properly I'm not going to use my 10 year old Dell mouse and my 2-inch wide mouse pad
>>345117157
>The biggest irony of consolefags is that they're typing off PCs anyways
Wrong
>>345117147
That's not a PS4. That's candy yo. Are you retarded?
>>345117185
Theres nothing wrong with your laser mouse and monitor.
If you somehow think that your monitor is gonna make you do better you might as well buy a whole new TV for your PS4 because your old LCD from 2007 just doesn't cut it for your "hard core" gameplay
>>345117064
>you're using now
I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people here are using laptops they got for university or college and they maybe only own a plug-in mouse
>>345115962
What do you think steam does minus the subscription fee
I've had PS+ for half of the 3's and all of 4's lifecycles.
When you're able to capitalize on a sale you can stack your subscription for the entire generation without worry or even spending too much. Much less than some people spend on annual part upgrades
>>345117147
Piracy isn't stealing. Piracy is making a copy.
MS doesn't care about pirates because even non-paying Windows users help them keep a monopoly on the PC OS market. The price tag is a dumbass tax.
>>345117320
I wouldn't be surprised that people made projections like that because they're financially insecure retards who want to game at college instead of study, socialize or have a job when they complain about being bored, broke or out of place
>>345108579
Everything there is second hand. You can get a working ps4 for like $150 if you go second hand.
>>345116352
3/10 bait
3700 games on steam alone
Plenty of decent f2p
Regular giveaways (for example, origin)
Sales all the time, many popular games under $5
Graymarket games for super cheap
Can ask a friend for a game
Free alphas/betas all the time
Try harder
>>345117257
>phoneposters
disgusting.
>>345117325
>What do you think steam does minus the subscription fee
If I don't have steam installed on my system, 90% of my games that aren't valve based will still work
>>345117367
>The price tag is a dumbass tax.
>PCMR is for the betterment of gaming
>"Oh lets just not pay the developers or publishers"
>this is good for the industry
>>345108289
Enjoy the 4 month lifespan
I'd have to agree $60 for 96 games is definitely better than humblebundle/steam sales. Opening my ps4/xbox library is already more than my steam library. I doubt all those games can even be $120 if bought during steam sale. Anyone who defends steams sales is a valvedrone. Shitting on it was a legit argument back then but damn value is too much now.
>>345116449
If they played on PC I doubt they would be my friends. PC players tend to not be social creatures.
>>345117325
>I've had PS+ through all of PS3 and PS4 life cycle
So you've paid 50 dollars a year for like 7 years now?
>>345117325
First, I don't pay for a monthly subscription to steam. Second, they need a solid reason to remove my games. Otherwise I can sue their asses.
In your case, you stop paying, you stop playing. Awesome.
>>345117520
Not him but MS does not give a shit about people pirating windows 10. You can pirate windows 8 right now and get a free legit windows 10 upgrade
They literally gave it out for free
The more people on their ecosystem the better
>>345117492
I'm posting from a Macbook, is the Apple logo although you might just see it as a box on Windows
>>345117589
I game on PC, have a gf, and regularly hang out with friends at BBQs, Movies, and other social events.
What now?
>>345117628
but steam doesn't give you 48 games, all you have is f2p microtransaction shit.
>>345117520
>PCMR
nice strawman buzzword you toddler
>>345117836
>your games don't count
>my games are better because I paid for them
>sony gave these to me for free, all I had to do was pay for them
Why would you buy a pc if it costs more than a console and has less current gen games? Is better graphics the only selling point?
>>345108096
Nice, what software can it run?
>>345117604
I have never paid full price for a year of PS+
Got 3 years from a target as misprint selling a year for the price of month.
Got another 5 years from a Black Friday sale where a year was selling for $30
Less than $200 which I earn in less than a week
>>345117909
Why would I buy a console if it costs more in the long run because of their mandatory fee and has less exclusives than PC
>is better graphics the only selling point
You're forgetting
>multitasking
>hosting a wide array of VM's and Servers
>mods
>software support
>peripheral support
>multimonitor support
>adaptability
>flexibility
>customization
Come back to me when your Playstation can actually fucking multitask and we'll talk
>>345117185
>mousepad
PC FAGS BTFO!!!!
But seriously, your shitty mouse will work fine. If you're really that into it, you CSB buy a decent one for $10 or less
Keyboards are even cheaper
>>345113974
This
1 summer working min wage at a grocery store and i have myself a pc that will shit all over consoles for a decade
>>345117836
Well if we're arguing about retarded shit I can also say the internet gives me all games for free.
>>345117991
>I was lucky
>I got 3 years off a misprinted ad
>I bought 150 dollars worth of online service on a black friday sale
>fringe shit
>>345117828
I didn't say you were all friendless NEETs just that a majority of you tend to be
>>345117640
This, there was a study that showed how Microsoft is the #1 beneficiary of piracy since people will not use Linux as long as Windows was easily accessible. This means more people on their ecosystem, and that also means companies and schools are more likely to license Windows since everyone is familiar with it. And that's where the real money is, licensing. Microsoft will never give a shit about piracy (outside of blatantly obvious things like the dude who was caught using hundreds of keys at once) because someone using Windows for free is still better for them in the long run than someone using MacOS or Linux.
>>345117257
Oh so you don't own a PC at all then?
>>345118240
Half of these pro PC ports advocate for using sales and already owned equipment
>>345118401
He's actually pretty retarded since his macbook comes with native windows support
>>345117907
the argument is not giving $30 gives you nothing, giving $30 to steam sales gets you jackshit
>>345118413
I pay nothing for my online access to steam or wherever I can get games
I don't need to pay money just to use the functionality of my system online. The fact that you had to pay money at all to play online is literally highway jewery
>>345117185
There are cheaper "gaming" mouse alternatives you know?
The cheap controller knock offs of the dualshock are like at 30.
>>345118223
>free
>no multiplayer with cracks
>needing a gaming pc for LoL
>>345118540
>I spent 30 dollars on the steam summer sale and I purposely picked out all the WORST games I possibly could
>this is proof that steam is awful
>even though I pay 50 dollars a year to get 36 games, none of which are or ever will be AAA
>I got like 2 real games by a developer I recognize in the last 3 years
>>345114064
>all that cancer
>>345117185
yes you can, that's like saying you need $300 shoes for running, bitch that wont make you faster
>>345118653
>no multiplayer with cracks
are you really pretending to be stupid? have you never heard of hamachi or private servers to begin with?
>>345118562
You probably don't pay for your internet either since you're living with mom and dad still
>>345118592
>buying something only when its on sale
>56% off
I'm not interested in having my computer completed in 6 months
>>345117185
>He didn't got a free cusomized mousepad
zup retard
>>345118762
the right mouse button won't register sometimes and the scroll wheel is fucked
Its old is what I'm saying. I'm not going to go running in my pair of 1990s falling apart Nikes.
>>345118843
You pay for the internet just the same as you would for connecting online with PSN
However the difference between my online play and your online play is you have an extra buffer to pay for before you can play online at all
don't even try discounting your ISP cost from your PS4 as an argument against PC
>>345117817
Even more disgust. If you're paying for overpriced polished turds, why not just buy a PC? What are you doing in this thread?
>>345118806
>meaning no population
are you stupid? the free games repopulates ded game
>>345118843
>y-y-yea well you pay for the internet access!
So do you except when I play on steam or origin or what ever I don't have to pay 5 dollars a month to play online beyond my Internet cost
>>345113974
Yeah, if you're dedicated to you hobby $1000-1200 for 3 years or so isn't a whole lot. A lot of popular hobbies like TCG, tabletop/wargaming, guns or even shit like backpacking can be just as expensive or more. You don't see people on /k/ bragging about their $100 nugget is better than a more expensive AR or something, but on /v/ people refuse to spend anything more than the bare minimum.
>>345117817
You are even worse than I thought. I assumed that you would just be using your iPhone, but NO, you are using a mac.
>>345113114
Agreed.
But for say a 100bucks extra you could buy a okayish i5 and a rx480 wich will blow a ps4 away
>>345118859
You're a legit moron.
When you buy your shit you look what's currently on sale.
You only wait if you're in a tight budget.
>have old as fuck 2011 pc
>buy a 300usd R9 390
>run the witcher 3 on ultra settings at 1080p
easy
>>345118401
>>345119026
I actually own multiple PCs, I'm just currently on my macbook air
STILL NO ONE HAS POSTED $300 PS4 BUNDLE MEMES.
Fucking ayyyy time to buy a $299 xbox 1 bundle then.
>>345119143
But the Nugget and the AK are better than the AR in the sense that they don't need maintenance whatsoever while AR does.
That and the Nugget and AK both have more stopping power than the AR, by far.
I'm just waiting until the Scorpio benchmarks comes out so I can match/beat that next time I upgrade.
>>345118413
You can rely on sales and preowned shit
Can't rely on fucking coupon misprints
>>345119182
>iPhone is okay, Mac is not
Nah, Macs are objectively better than iPhones
I have an Xperia Z3 compact for a smart phone, I have no interest in iPhones
>>345119026
It just werks ™
