1st) What are some good Pokemon romhacks you have played?
2nd) Is there any good romhacks of the first gen games that introduce the gameplay improvements of the later games?
I just want to play the best possible Pokemon game I can play but Gamefreak sucks as a developer.
>Is there any good romhacks of the first gen games that introduce the gameplay improvements of the later games?
Yeah, it's called Fire Red retard
>play the best possible pokemon game
go play HG/SS or emerald then
>>345088943
I played that and it doesn't have all the gameplay improvements.
RETARD
Look up Red++
>>345088681
Red++
Pokemon Brown
>>345088681
it's called Pokemon My Ass Edition
http://nicoblog.org/gba-roms/pokemon-my-ass/
VoltWhite/BlazeBlack is probably the best I've played.
Not too keen on VoltWhite2/BlazeBlack2 though.
>>345089010
DUDE THANK YOU!
Just read some of what it is introducing and this is pretty much what I wanted. The only thing I would prefer about it though is the ability to use which graphics style I want. I would go with the gen 1 graphics but I'm not going to complain too much.
This is exactly what I wanted more a less.
>Genwunners
they all suck dick, they power scale worse then the original games, don't tell me it's too hard it's just bullshit
>>345089010
Well looking at it and it actually mostly uses gen 1 graphics so I am glad. I don't really care for most of the new pokemon though. They should have left them out and only kept the original 151.
>>345089097
>mods allow Pokemon Go threads
>now people are posting general Pokemon threads
>>>/vp/
>>345089585
>constantly told Pokefaggots to go back to >>>/vp/
>people would defend them saying shit like "it's better than the overwatch threads"
>now this
Give an inch they take a mile. I don't care now I tried but mods were too busy sucking Pokemon Go dick to give a fuck.
![250px-FireRed_EN_US_boxart[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/pkay50R.png "250px-FireRed_EN_US_boxart[1].png")
>>345088681
>later gens
>gameplay improvements
so you want them to take the original and clutter it with shit? got you f.am
>you will never be a genwunner
>>345089838
This, how dare they talk about videogames on MY board.
Is there a Pokemon h game
>>345089210
>Gen3babbies projecting their nostalgiafaggotry onto the genwunner boogeyman
>>345090040
/vp/ exists for a reason, if mods let people post Pokemon on /v/ than what's the point of /vp/ existing?
>>345090040
Pokemon GO isn't vidya, it's an app. Also /vp/ was created to funnel ALL Pokemon talk to their own board. By not only posting that shit on /v/ but defending said posting all you're doing is showing just how fucking cancer ridden your fanbase is. You make DaSfags look good for fucks sake.
>>345090220
Same as /vg/ and /vr/, to excise all actual vidya threads from /v/ because moot was a fucking retard.
>>345089838
Because it fucking is better than overwatch threads and that's all that's fucking left after 4chan moved out retro pokemon and recurring discussion out of /v/
Holy shit fuck off half of /v/ right now is either 1. Some shit meme from another board (/tv/ /pol/ /ck/ take your pick whatever), bait, or the remaining 10 threads about a game.
I swear to god you faggots won't be happy until there is no video game discussion on /v/. You've already taken 4/5ths of it. You can't have the last bit. Go back to where you came from.
>>345088943
Inferior art design, music and atmosphere
>>345090220
It's for pokegirl threads
I like Altair and Sirius. They're jap though.
>>345088681
Only good Pokemon games are ones that allow you to catch them all without trading, especially now that the GTS is down. I like the White 2 hack the most.
>>345090220
>than what's the point of /vp/ existing?
The same purpose as /trash/
I don't want to read some motherfuckers talking about having imaginary friends. I want to talk about video games. Pokemon are video games.
So the psychotic bullshit goes on /vp/. The game discussion can go on either.
>>345090220
Same as /vg/, incessant circlejerk, waifufagging, posting about irrelevant, non-videogame stuff related to the subject.
Look, be real, help people out, and suggest they also visit /vp/. You know reverse psychology and stuff? This will only make people angry and refuse to visit /vp/.
Plus, we get another videogame thread. And a good one, at that. Nobody is going to post ridiculous posts in a thread like this, specifically with the romhacking theme. (As opposed to threads in which people go "post your main(s) lol")
If you're still bothered (like a lot of people are since they hate everything related to pokémon), don't post, just report and hide.
>>345090435
I want noatalgiafag genwunners to leave
>>345090714
crying nostalgia is just the worst non-argument you can possibly throw out there.
>>345088681
For a good "Pokemon game" that isn't Pokemon play some Dragon Warrior Monsters. Better built, better systems and better story. The only thing Pokemon did better was marketing. Dragon Warrior Monsters 1 and 2 are the rare case where you should play both and each have their own pro and cons making both of them your favorite games for different reasons.
Romhacks are often shittier than the normal games themselves.
>>345090495
>>345090643
I get that /vp/ is actually a containment board for Gardevoir porn and waifushit, but it's a slippery slope.
We had Pokemon Go threads, now we're having general Pokemon threads (romhacking in this case), how long before we get 'which Pokemon would you fug' threads, etc.?
>>345091362
Anon we've always had the rare pokemon thread on /v/ after /vp/ was made. The system works. Once in a while when a thread is particularly on topic, we discuss pokemon. Everything that isn't about video games gets shoveled.
It's in my opinion, one of the few times I think moderators do a good job on /v/. They identify threads discussing the game, and threads discussing the lore or whatever, and sort it out.
We can talk about video games on /v/. We can talk about retro games (but we can't really bitch if they get bumped off page 10). We can talk about mass effect or space station 13 even though they have generals on /vg/.
But we can't talk about how much we want to fuck pikachu.
>>345091362
Shunning garbage threads is a good thing. Pokémon GO is a ridiculous AR GPS minigame, and should be treated just like Angry Birds, Flappy Bird and Candy Crush are here: a joke.
Shunning people for asking about romhacks, on the other hand, I'm against.
That said, I agree that slippery slope can happen, but there's already shit happening that is not tied to Pokémon too, so I don't know if I should be worried about Pokémon specifically creating this scenario when it already happens here...
I should probably go to an alternate /v/ with more elitist people, this one is too filled with normalfags and casuals nowadays.
>>345090017
>pretending gen 1 was perfect
This one's a personal favorite: http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/1385/
It's just Red with sprites from Crystal and the battle HUD from Gen 2.
>>345093725
Gen 1 had the best everything besides the actual gameplay. Region could have been a bit bigger to.
>>345096674
>best villains
nope, team rocket was bland
>best pokemon
debatable. sprites were godawful though, more often than not
>best gameplay
>the most important part of an RPG
fuck no
what exactly was the best about gen 1?
>>345096674
So by that logic, gen2 is best, because it improved the gameplay and has twice the world.
>>345088983
Why can't they put the Pokemon walking alongside you back in?
>>345090435
I forgot /v/ is filled with autists
>>345089010
>>345089036
This looks pretty good I wouldn't mind playing an amped up version of red
>>345096841
>twice the world
1.5x**gen 2 is my favourite but don't pretend kanto was actually fully fleshed out.
>>345097172
phisically it was, content-wise is another story
![GXvmX[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/cH0bTFD.png "GXvmX[1].png")
Pokemon GO reminded me like, tgen one has about as many good to stupid pokemon as all the other gens. A few really cool things, and then just a LOT of garbage.
>>345097309
>physically it was
>seafoam islands:gone
>mt.moon: gutted
>safari zone: gone
>route from fuschia to cinnabar: gone
>cinnabar: gone
>viridian forest: overworld map instead of specific zone
>power plant: gutted
>cerulean cave: gone
>>345088681
gen 1 is complete shit
whenever I play it it degenerates into trying to break the game as much as I can
>>345088681
Glazed was pretty good last time I played it.
Damn shame about the tutor that can give every pokemon a 100 acc sleep move, makes the game trivial.
>>345093725
some things in that picture were not problems though and others were actually better
>leech seed/toxic combo
the combo was nothing near overpowered given leech seed is a condition that is removed upon switching, no reason to remove it
>crits based of speed
intentional design, honestly better than just having an arbitrary crit rate on all moves that's to low to rely on but just high enough to fuck up a bunch of games
>instakill moves based of speed
opened up more combos in that its possible to raise speed
>agility/swords dance
again not a real problem, it increases the usefulness of those moves sure
>counter
was a completely different move in gen 1 with logical behavior, later gens also introduced niche and virtually useless moves
>whirlwind and roar
haze still reset stat-ups so you weren't fucked
>hyper beam
its gen 1 functionality is objectively better than current functionality, back then it was a high risk high reward move (several pokemon that could easily tank a hyper beam existed), right now its useless
>struggle is normal
not to big a deal, logically consistent with normal moves
>suicide substitute
pay better attention to your health
>rage
literally everything about that move is intentional and logically consistent, the move is still shit tier today but has a lot less flavor
>bide bug
objectively better move without being overpowered
>multi-hit moves
logically consistent
>>345096791
>nope, team rocket was bland
Team Rocket is iconic as fuck and easily the most liked and well recognized of all the gangs. Giovanni was also the best leader.
>debatable. sprites were godawful though, more often than not
Nothing to debate here. Everyone and their mother recognizes these designs. Most people agree these mons are the best designs and they simply were. Simplicity at it's finest here while being iconic.
>>>345096791
I said the gameplay was the worst aspect of it. It was in it's infancy and it's not like the gameplay is that much different from even the games now. Gen1 was simply the best.
>>345090856
You can't argue against it. Thus you lose.
>>345097704
>the most liked and well recognized of all the gangs.
you're delusional if you think that's because of the games.
>>345096841
>twice the world
>more like two inferior worlds in one game
Johto sucked and Kanto was butchered. Gen 2 has the worst world in fact and if it weren't for the combination of the two areas then each area alone would by far be the shittiest world.
Gen 3 was area Hoenn raped
>>345088681
Yet Another FireRed Hack, which takes the Kanto Dex and mixes it with later gens and also has he physical/Special split implemented
If you're feeling adventurous, there's also the Touhoumon 1.8 Romhacks, which gives a new type chart and replaces the mons with 2hus
>>345093725
Only nerdy autistic fags cared about any if this when playing first gen
gen 1 was a prototype of what pokemon would become. the argument could be made that everything gen 1 did, gen 2 did better, aside from kanto itself. I'm not going to say gen 2 was the best, even if it is my favourite, but I will say it was a hell of a lot better than gen 1.
the sprite work for gen 1 mons were better, the mechanics were better, bugs were fixed, and gameplay was more balanced.
>>345097894
only nerdy autistic fags pretend gen 1 is the best gen ever.
>>345097995
forgot to quote >>345097631
>>345097894
>it's a broken video game
>nobody cared
yeah sure
>>345088681
Played Pokemon Snakewood and it was pretty fun. I heard good things about Pokemon Reborn but didn't try it yet.
>>345097995
not saying gen 1 didn't have a lot of problems either, just saying that image is heavily cherry picked
just stick to the actual problems and you still have a lot to talk about but don't go try and pretend say missingno, while being a bug, wasn't iconic as fuck and actually made the game better by existing
>>345098204
>missingno. ... made the game better by existing
>a literal bug
>that could corrupt files and ruin games
uwot?
'iconic' is not an excuse for shit being hilariously bad.
>>345097631
Fuck finally someone says it. For the most part what you said is correct. I would add that even though it is cheap wrap making a pokemon immobile is simply the smart thing as well. Rather then changing it as they have they should have reworked the move to work differently but not in the way it does now.
I just can't wrap my head around the fact that Arbok uses wrap on a little shitter like Pikachu and somehow between turns pikachu can use moves like slam, tackle, etc?
Wrap still needs work to make sense. Fire Spin fix is okay but not wrap.
>>345098353
missingno itself is harmless and can't corrupt save games
and if you are going to try to pretend that missingno, the one bug to rule them all, the thing that spawned a billion playground rumors and knowledge of which spread throughout the world ungodly fast in a time where the internet was available to less than a million people wasn't a positive you were simply to young to remember the days of gen 1
there's not a single secret in any game that will ever come close to missingno
>>345098069
So you're telling me you actually researched and cared about this crap when the game came out and you were battling and trading with a link cable with your friends? Fuck outta here with that shit.
>>345097995
Who said gen 1 was the best?
>>345098709
>muh nostalgia
Sorry, not gonna score any points that way.
I only played it a few years ago.
>>345098709
>muh nostalgia
every time
>>345098635
>you are simply too young to remember the days of gen 1
fucking what? I was 8 when gen 1 came out in NA, I remember it well.
>missingno itself is harmless and can't corrupt save games
tell that to my permanently corrupted hall of fame that's a permanent mess of pixels because I brought M,__l;R to the E4, which lasted until my internal battery ran dry.
your argument has now literally boiled down to 'muh nostalgia'. gen 1 was more flawed than any other main-line pokemon game ever released, and only serves as a reminder of what started it all. yes, it's iconic, and yes, its legacy will likely never be forgotten, but it's asinine to pretend that it's better than all the other games because 'its numerous flaws are ICONIC and if you don't agree you were too young to remember when it came out!'
and yes, I did do the missingno glitch when I was that young.
>>345098786
see
>>345096674
>>345097631
>defending gen1 bugs
Now I've seen everything
>>345099215
>will likely never be forgotten
The problem with you gen 1 deniers is you fags seriously forget just how impactful gen 1 and at that specifically gen 1 was. These games weren't just stimply impactful. They are the best selling RPG's of all time to this day whether haters like it or not. Yes they have outsold every other gen. Only gen 2 comes close and even then it's a bit behind gen 1 by I believe it's 10 million units.
The impact of gen 1 is the same impact as SMB or the original Tetris. Just because you think it "likely never will be forgotten" doesn't mean you know what you are talking about fag. These games will NEVER EVER be forgotten as long as gaming is a thing. The games started a juggernaught of a frranchise and are still the best selling games in the series.
Most other series sequels can easily claim superiority through the numbers of sales. Such as Halo for example. Not pokemon though. The juggernaut that was R/B/Y has yet to be topped except perhaps by GO now which to be fair is on smartphones and is not a mainline game.
I just wish these games got the goddamned respect they deserve. Tired of shitters bashing them. Big fucking deal it has glitches. Plenty of great games from the past do.
>>345099765
so in your opinion, popular=good?
Pokèmon Brown is really good if you ignore some random memes that sometimes pop out (really rarely) since it was made when memes were the hottest shit. Also don't strain from the game gives you unless you want to fight overlevelled crap like lv42 muks with minimize when your strongest pokémon is a level 25 graveler.
Pokemon snakewood edition is so bad is so good. Simply turn off your brain and enjoy it.
These two are the only ones I can remember clearly, with also that abort that was pokemon ruby destiny rescue rangers. Literally the worst game ever made, and I got really far into it hoping it would get better.
>>345098808
>>345098815
Aside from samefagging, you are totally missing the point. It took over 15 years before autismo's discovered this shit. Now everyone hates on Gen 1 for it.
>>345099891
>Also don't strain from the path the game gives you*
>>345099765
>it's popular/sold more so it's immune to criticism
Ok dude
>>345088681
>>345088681
1. Red++ is a romhack of gen 1 that introduces the elements of the latest games. Same thing with Fire Red Evolution which is Fire Red but with the gen 6 changes and some gen 4 evolutions of older pokemon are in the game as well
Also anything on these lists
http://pastebin.com/hMRJR8KX
http://pastebin.com/bcPxpEQT
http://pastebin.com/0VB0v7Hc
>>345099882
>so in your opinion, popular=good?
Another strawman that is constantly posted whenever gen 1 is defended. You need to understand something here kid. Popularity does not always mean better true. However popularity cannot simply be thrown aside as if it's not a big deal. Just because something is popular doesn't mean it is bad and vice versa.
So quit with the shitty strawman arguments. And for the record if R/B/Y were these absolutely awful games they wouldn't have sold as well as they did. Go ahead though and sperg out about popularity again.
Other popular games that /v/ shits on like CoD, Battlefield, Minecraft, etc? They aren't necessarily bad either. A truly bad game is shit like pic related that nobody honestly liked.
>>345100083
The problem is not that they shouldn't be criticized. The problem is that losers on here do nothing but criticize the games every single time. Never are people allowed to actually like the games. Always has to be that they are shit or outdated.
You people are seriously fucking pathetic. There are plenty of people out there that might like the original SMB the best even if all the other games added a ton more things.
Oh but you fags never say those people are stupid do you? Morons all of you.
>>345093725
I love the whole speed crit and hyper beam stuff, a shame they removed those in later games.
>>345100363
Everyone who thinks the original SMB is the best has never played the other games or has some serious case of nostalgia goggles.
>>345100206
>>345100363
I use a strawman because your argument has boiled down to 'how dare you point out the numerous flaws in a game that will NEVER EVER BE FORGOTTEN BECAUSE ITS THE BEST SELLING RPG EVER'. You have not provided a single point aside from 'the bugs don't MATTER and they're ICONIC!'
you know what other titles have sold tens of millions of copies and have millions of fans? fifty shades of grey, twilight, and my little pony.
you've yet to provide any actual reasonings for the validity of your claim that gen 1 is the best and the bugs don't matter aside from 'it was popular and talked about on the playground'
enjoy the game all you want, but don't pretend it's immune to criticism or that its numerous flaws are irrelevant compared to its popularity.
again, I'm not calling R/B/Y bad. At all.
I'm simply saying they're flawed masterpieces and there have been numerous games released since that did it better.
>>345088681
I played Ash Grey and it was shit.
Disregard anyone who suggested it.
>>345097856
There's also Moemon which replaces the mons with moe anthropomorphic versions.
>>345100206
They weren't that bad as you claim others make them to be. They were very good at a time where you could only save in a handful of games and where most were garbage anyway.
R/B/Y probably sold for various reasons. It was was easy to pick up, even for kids. Had collectible things. Was one of the best games on its console. etc. etc.
That doesn't mean they're the holy grail of Pokemon though. Like many other franchise starters, they're immensely limited by hardware and inexperience of the developers. They all just lay the barebones for their franchise, but aren't too exciting nowadays.
http://pokehacks.dabomstew.com/randomizer/
i strongly suggest u use the option to not have special pokemon turn up and leave the trainers pokemon the same as standard or you get weird insect trainers late game which are walk overs otherwise this things perfect for a fresh play through
>>345088681
Try the Touhoumon romhacks. They're actually super legit gameplay-wise. Touhoumon Purple has the best gameplay.
>>345100558
And you are just trolling is all. Using buzzwords like nostalgia goggles proves you have nothing of value to say.
>>345100582
>I use a strawman because your argument has boiled down to 'how dare you point out the numerous flaws in a game
No I replied to that op because that guy had the audacity to say "likely" when it is completely retarded. I guarantee people on here might forget or didn't even know how much of an impact those games have had. Some people here are actually literally too young to know if they are in their teens to even early twenties.
I bet many had no clue they were the best selling jrpg's ever. Not just that but by a very wide fucking margin to. If you want a comparison a game like FFVII which is the highest selling FF and JRPG outside of the pokemon franchise has sold a mere fraction of what R/B/Y has sold. Pick a CoD game and R/B/Y outsold any of them.
I just wanted to emphasize a point not only to you but to everyone else who may crap on the games for no reason other then to meme or because they genuinely think these games are somehow awful games when they aren't. For the record I last played yellow two years ago to completion. I couldn't even finish Crystal however without getting bored. Not knocking it I just genuinely like the originals better. And I don't have to throw memes to say it either.
>>345097631
>defending any of this
nostalgiatards.
Crits based off the speed stat was stupid because all it meant was that all the speedy characters hit twice as hard as the "power" characters becuase the speedy characters are always getting crits off. Tauros was literally the best Pokemon besides Mewtwo for this reason, and the fact that Normal typing was just as broken as Psychic
you'd have a point for the OHKO moves, if the pokemon that learned them besides Mew weren't slow as molassas so they're unusable outside of the main game.
the swords dance/agility was a problem. Why should you boost your offensive stats, just to end up doing LESS damage because you got a crit? You should be doing the boosted damage PLUS the crit, as seen in every generation after gen 1, like how it's suppose to be
Haze was learned by a grand total of four pokemon in gen 1, in which all of them sucked shit in. If you said Whirlwind Roar wasn't programmed to be used in trainer battles you'd have a point.
and plus all your shit basically boils down to
>I-its intentional! it's logical!
doesn't mean it isn't a shit property and applying logic to pokemon is a retarded concept in the first place.
>>345100582
>>345100763
>That doesn't mean they're the holy grail of Pokemon though.
That is fine but if someone likes it for nostalgia reasons then who gives a fuck really? Look just remember that some autistic fag gets so butthurt that people like gen 1 that they go through the trouble to make this >>345093725
From what I seen most of the complaints against people who like these games is usually buzzwords and memes. Go ahead and enjoy newer pokemon nobody is stopping you people. But the elitist attitude is obnoxious and it's no wonder why those fags had to get their own board. Had GO started with gen 6 instead I guarantee it wouldn't have took off like it has. Most people like the first gen mons better.
>>345101017
>I last played yellow two years ago
and I last played yellow live on /vp/ 4 months ago, on a live playthrough.
and 2 months ago, I did a personal playthrough of red, seeing just how much and how easily I could break the game on a cartridge.
by the time I got to lavender town I had a full party of level 100s, including a gengar, without trading.
I've been playing pokemon since I was 8 in 1998, taking in the anime, the card game, and just about anything I could get my hands on. I also remember when silver and gold came out, and despite spending hundreds of hours on gen 1, I've spent at least 3 times that on gen 2.
I know what I'm talking about, and while I respect gen 1, I will never say it was the best gen, and firmly believe that people who legitimately believe as such are hilariously deluded and/or trolling.
>>345101458
>by the time I got to lavender town
You can easily pull that off by the time you challenge the first Gym.
>>345101404
>That is fine but if someone likes it for nostalgia reasons then who gives a fuck really?
It's fine, but don't think there's any other reason to prefer gen 1
>>345101606
>first gym
you can get a level 100 nidoking through some super, DUPER frame perfect and luck-based glitching.
>>345101458
>I will never say it was the best gen
Okay fine and it is your opinion. The problem here is that newgen fags cannot seem to comprehend the reality that some people actually prefer the older games so they sperg out.
I'll sum up these stupid gen wars easily. Newgen fags are most responsible for it because they are the biggest shitposters of them all. What they often fail to grasp is people like games for various reasons and liking gen 1 just because is a perfectly acceptable answer on liking the games. I have already given my reasons why I prefer them and it's a lot more then simply my nostalgia for them. I just genuinely liked most of what the games did better then the newer ones. So many of the new monsters are seriously offensive to look at they are so ugly. The toriyama art style had a lot to do with why I like the 1st gen so much to.
Lastly I think the 3D is fucking shittastic desu. Gamefreak is a shit company and another company could make pokemon bigger then it is now. Funny enough GO is proof of this to.
>>345088681
http://pokemongemme.fr/index.html
this is the best and only pokemon game to rule them all.
It's basically a fan game made on rpg maker than plans on including all maps for the first four gens, and also makes the game much more challenging, in a way that makes sense.
For example gym leaders have real team and are really fucking hard to beat.
The thing is the game is a WIP and made by a french guy.
>>345101609
>It's fine, but don't think there's any other reason to prefer gen 1
Yep you are a newgen troll I have been debunking itt. You guys are largely responsible for at least 90% of the shitposting of anything pokemon related. It's like you guys see this franchise as nothing more then a pizza or a pair of underwear, perhaps even a sport. Once used it needs to be thrown out for the new one which is automatically SOOO much better amirite? Only you pokemon fans seem to be this way. It's the weirdest shit I ever seen on /v/. No other fanbase is this insufferable. It's quite an accomplishment really.
I just like the newgen because everyone in the party gets XP.
That's it. Now my party of 6 pidgies can all level up without having to remember which is which.
>>345101887
>opinion
it ceases to be an opinion when it's a demonstrable fact.
it is a FACT that gen 1 is littered with bugs, sprite errors, and limiting mechanics that were fixed in later gens.
if you want to pretend that kids don't experience that, just try and fight sabrina. oh, you know ghost types are super effective? oh wait, gen 1 psychic types were IMMUNE to ghost types!
or maybe try and use focus energy and get confused as you suddenly stop getting crits.
call gen 1 your favourite, whatever, but don't pretend gen 1 is the best.
hell, I know gen 2 isn't the best either, but it's still my favourite, and I acknowledge the problems that it had.
pretty much the only reason people still claim gen 1 is their favourite is, and do not pretend otherwise, nostalgia. they grew up with gen 1, it was their first pokemon game(in many cases their first game ever), and yes, that's a valid reason to claim it as your favourite. hell, it's largely why gen 2 is my favourite.
>>345097704
Each of those things is almost certainly only iconic because it came first, but I guess there isn't anyway to prove that one way or another
>>345088983
>HG/SS
>best
Not with that terrible level scaling, and nothing outside your starter learns anything useful, or they learn it super late.
>>345089245
>Champion is the dev's OC self-insert and uses legendaries
Every time
>>345093725
half of these things aren't even a problem, just different from later gens.
>>345102283
I mostly agree with you, but with me the thing I care about most in a generation is the designs of the Pokemon in it. And while gen 1 isn't my favorite, it definitely did have a slightly different design style from later generations that many people seem to prefer. It's a legitimate reason.
>>345102283
>oh wait, gen 1 psychic types were IMMUNE to ghost types!
This makes sense.
>>345102115
It's also the only franchise which has people claim the first installment to be the best. No other large franchise has even a vocal minority who praise their first game.
Only pokemon has enough fans who place gen 1 over the rest when it's clearly flawed.
How about you provide an argument how gen 1 can still compete with the other gens. Its region is top, better than most others if not all, but there isn't that much more that gives it the edge over the rest.
Am I illiterate or has no one posted Fire Red Omega?
Just play any of the Drayano hacks
>>345088681
The best possible game?
http://www.strawpoll.me/10746380
>>345102851
This guy is largely to thank for why people like those designs. Not literally but he sort of deserves the thanks.
>>345102851
even pokemon designs in the gen 1 games clashed with official artwork.
>>345102908
psychic types are supposed to be weak to the things that cause fear in people
-bugs
-the darkness
-death
and in the strategy guide iirc, as well as all official sources, it was stated that ghost is super effective against psychic.
then you come to the game itself, and because the only ghost types are dual-typed poison, psychic is super effective on them, and the only ghost-type non-fixed move, lick, doesn't affect them whatsoever.
the best romhack is the one that perfectly adapts the indigo league anime into firered
have no idea what its called but my friend played it at work and I thought it looked the bees knees
>romhack thread
HOLY SHIT I'VE BEEN SEARCHING FOR THIS THREAD FOR YEARS NOW
Fucking /vp/ simply refuses to discuss romhacks. They'd rather discuss their own fucking fakemon romhacks.
Pokemon prism fucking when?
>>345102943
>It's also the only franchise which has people claim the first installment to be the best. No other large franchise has even a vocal minority who praise their first game.
You are one serious fucking retard. Not even going to reply to you anymore.
What are some good HG/SS hacks?
>>345103094
>psychic types are supposed to be weak to the things that cause fear in people
So people aren't afraid of fire, steel (guns, swords, etc), being poisoned?
Pokemon logic folks.
>no gen 2 game with better graphics
>if they did do a remaster it would casual as shit and with a whole bunch of trash features
>>345103468
>no gen 2 game with better graphics
nigga what? they already exist
>>345103468
Wut
>>345088681
Snake wood is literally the best pokemon rom hack ever made
>>345103468
But there is
You have fucking HGSS, Liquid Crystal and Shiny Gold.
>>345103537
share
>Open and close Pokemon Go app in my room several times
>don't even move just open it
>caught 4 Pokemon this way
Only 4 because I stopped but still it's fun
>>345103405
The 3 biggest fears you chucklefuck
>>345103624
alternatively
>crystal
![heartgold-soulsilver[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/LJ98D3p.jpg "heartgold-soulsilver[1].jpg")
>>345103624
they are widely regarded as the best pokemon games, bringing together the best things about the classics gens and new gens with none of the retarded shit
>>345103215
Please give me an example against it. Any franchise with 10+ games, where people praise the first game over the rest.
I've got plenty for myself: Mario, FF, DQ, Tales, Zelda, Fire Emblem, SMT.Mega Man comes to mind though
>>345103212
Damn really? I was even thinking about putting the thread on /vp/ as well since I wasn't sure if they would let this one stay up. Glad I put it here now.
I'm also glad that one anon told me about Brown and Red++ as I will be checking them out.
>>345103749
>>345103750
I was thinking of romhacks.
>>345104241
what would be the point then
>>345103405
you have what you asked for already, and an emulatable version.
>>345088681
The pokemon color/gen2 sprite replacement mod is pretty fantastic. I play it on my GB Everdrive every once in a while.
>>345103959
>Any franchise with 10+ games
What is this autism? A franchise starts at two different games.
>>345104416
Forgot to mention, the mod includes things like the exp bar, and showing a pokeball on pokemon you've already caught. It's the definite way to play gen1 pokemon.
>>345103749
>>345103750
These games have shit graphics. They should have made it look like R/S/E does.
>>345093725
Anon, breaking RPGs is half the fun. Haven't you played a tri-Ace game before?
>>345103574
>Mfw meeting a Gorelax the first time
does anyone know if the 3ds ports of red and blue still have all the glitches in them?
Snakewood
>>345105208
Everything is still here.
>>345090281
>How much cancer the fanbase has
>This has been the one thread Iv been in thats been generally civil, non meme garbage
Fuck /v/ really is cancerous
>>345103574
I second this, though it's hard as dick imo. Expect to grind some.
>>345088681
There's a team rocket edition for fire red, but only the first mission is finished.
>>345088681
the rom hack that /vp/ is making is pretty good
>>345107328
>tentaquil
I'd almost forgotten that.
>>345098238
>The link between that sighting and the fact that this Pokémon looks very similar to a Poké Ball remains a mystery."
>"remains a mystery."
Within the context of the fictional Pokemon world, they don't know where the fuck these things came from.
Within the context of the real world, Voltorb is a classic mimic monster that looks like the Poke Ball items you see on the overworld.
Within the context of rationalizations you come up with inside your own head, Voltorb is a possessed Poke Ball. Nowhere else is this true. This is textbook headcanon.
>>345107328
>Plebbles
>that regi trio
kek
>>345107328
10/10
>>345107328
what the fuck is #385 even supposed to be
>>345107328
Nothing tops Rectreem for me.
>>345108591
Sincerely hoping this is bait.
>>345103574
>it's a deadly seven dungeon
JESUS CHRIST
Lets get back to the topic at hand, as someone who hasn't played pokemon in years what romhack do you suggest to go play first?
>>345104539
>>345104241
Well, there's Liquid Crystal
http://pokemonliquidcrystal.com/
Standard shitty OC Donut Steels aside, it's not bad.
>>345109732
Pokemon Reborn, easy as pie ;^)
No but seriously if you haven't played pokemon in years you should just play, you know, actual pokemon games. Emerald and HG/SS are generally considered good.
>>345109732
Light Platinum is fucking godlike IF you can handle the absolute shitty writing and maybe pacing. Seriously, everything looks so pretty, the towns are fucking sweet but oh god you get like 10 fucking rivals that are constantly talking about friendship xD.
Just to tell you how bad it is:Ash is one of those rivals
>>345109745
I still couldn't figure out that number puzzle on the Orange Islands. I looked it up and there was nothing on it either
>>345110074
comon i can go get them at anytime, I just really wanted to create a list , generate a backlog if you will.
>>345109732
What I did was using a randomizing tool on Emerald that randomized every pokemon in the game while keeping the same levels. Shit was crazy as fuck.
>>345110093
What bugged me the most was constantly having to track down the gym leaders and talk to them outside their gyms before actually fighting them. Seriously, fuck that. I didn't like it in Gen 4 and I don't like it here. Easily could have dropped that gimmick and it would have made the pacing a hell of a lot smoother.
>>345110145
Savestates, my man.
But really, Orange Islands isn't even worth it to begin with because it's not finished. I think it literally ends just after that puzzle as a matter of fact.
>>345089129
All of Drayano's rom hacks are pretty solid. Better than the base games in my opinion
>>345103094
>psychic types are supposed to be weak to the things that cause fear in people
>-bugs
>-the darkness
>-death
is there some list explaining all the type advantages in a way that makes sense like this
>>345103094
I miss when pidgey looked like this. It was such a cutie.
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