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Anyone else want Bastion removed from the game entirely? He's a complete shitter magnet. I'm still seeing people lvl 50+ picking him, even on something like KotH or attacking on Payload, which is completely retarded.
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>Hurr, I can't counter a simple but effective character so I want him banned

Fuck off, Tumblr.
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>>345085754
Overwatch is Tumblr the game

Stop insulting other safe spaces in Overwatch. Blizzard removed everything not sjw approved.
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>>345085754
I think his point is that he is too easy to counter and thus a liability.
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>>345085581
It's funny because all I ever fucking see on here is people bitching about different heroes. There's never one. Every single one has been complained about. It's all subjective.
Piss off.
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>>345085850
>unironically using the word "sjw"
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>>345085754
I'm talking about people choosing him in my team, actually. He's an outright liability, especially when someone thinks it's a good idea to pick him while attacking on payload.
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>>345086041
Are you triggered, SJW?
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>>345085581
>attacking on Payload
but a bastion attacking actually makes rein useful
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>shitter magnet
thats hanzo buddy
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>>345085581
That new heal slut Ana shuts him down ez
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>>345086041
>word
It's an acronym you illiterate
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>>345085581
Surely you meant Hanzo, OP

also a well-played Bastion is an absolute nightmare

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YHSgMRnU9k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6wJhQPT4Io
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>>345086109
Rein is useful for everyone while attacking on payload, just as long as your team stays behind it.
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>>345085581
Step one: Pick D.Va, Bastion or Widowmaker (if he's in a snipable place)

As D.Va just fly up to him with defence matrix up and then circle him unloading into him. If your team is present (they should be) let them know what you plan to do and they will help

As Genji find a way to get near him. (i.e running straight through the enemy team is a fast way to an early grave) deflect for the final approach. If he's a retard he will kill himself before he reaches you then just circle behind him and rape him.

As widow just rape him from far away and dodge behind cover while the shot is charging. This is easiest hiding behind a Reinhardt barrier
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>>345086041
fuck off you triggered sjw cunt get the fuck off this website you fucking dirty cuck manlet faggot.
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>>345086336
yeah but no one fucking stands behind the shield, innit? at least when bastion squats into his turret mode he can't move. And therefore can't fuck up standing behind a shield.
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>>345085581
>even on something like KotH


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5CKVJOyNFM
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>>345085581
>"attacking on Payload, which is completely retarded."
>He can't get a Rein/Bastion rape train going
git gud
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There is the same issue with hanzo, but instead the shittos will have him nerfed because even a moderately decent hanzo can pubstomp those shittos.

He is 100% useless if the other team is at all skillful
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>>345086527
Where can I watch overwatch tournament footage? I'm new to the game so I only really know about seagull and a handful of former CS players
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>>345086293
So Seagull is the best Overwatch player, right?
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>>345086057
how is an instashredder a liability, at the very least its a mindless armored unit/reinshield remover
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>People instalock Hanzo
>People instalock Bastion
>People instalock Genji

These are all early signs you're about to lose.

On a unrelated note: Has anybody else noticed a much bigger influx of people quitting out of comp? People seem to quit every other game for me now, shit's getting annoying as fuck.
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>>345086842
Because people plant themselves in the most ridiculous places and not where they're needed. Come one, man, you've seen it more than once, we all have. Spectating a Bastion planted in the most retarded place possible hoping some unsuspecting idiot runs into his path.

This is the Bastion playerbase in a nutshell.
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>>345086923
>Playing comp
wew
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>>345085850
>Tumblr the game
Your just like tumblr and know nothing about the game
>Zarya is loved by tumblr/homos and such because pink hair strong woman
>Character is never shown to be gay or implied gay
>Shes actually racist as fuck against robots

Your literally just parroting what other people say and have literally never played the game.
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>>345085905
There was a big shit storm of complaints in beta about bastion. Blizzards response was literally telling people how to counter him. Its been far less because only people who absolutely suck shit complain about him.

I have a feeling OP is on console if hes not shit posting.
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>>345085581
I'm rank 75 and still pick bastion on attack
the fuck is wrong with you
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>>345087559
wasn't blizzard talking about how high level players were asking to buff bastion?
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>>345087095
>Only playing quickplay
wew
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>>345087559
which beta
bastion was very different in closed beta and hasn't been changed since open beta
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>>345086923
Out of my 5 games yesterday, 3 of them I lost a team member or two.
Nightmare, because we were winning.

Ended up doing a sudden death on attack with 2 teammates down, they're hard enough to win with full teams.
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You know who needs to be removed? Mei.

Her kit guarantees she will never be good in competitive, and her kit is just boring and obnoxious to play against.
The game would be better without her in it.
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>>345087737
Open beta there were a fuck ton of threads on /v/ he was easily the most complained about.
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>>345087698
Quickplay is for fucking around.
Comp is for videogames are serious business.

I jump in and out of both, depending on my mood. Also in quickplay you're more inclined to use someone you wouldn't usually, since nobody cares about winning or losing.
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>>345087870
comp is only for when you have 6 friends who are actually good.

If you play it otherwise, you will rage
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>>345087613
Yeah i think they basically said they would need to be careful balancing him so that he's not insanely broken at regular skill levels just so he would be viable to pros.
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>>345087850
She's made to dominate 1v1 and completely shit herself if there's anymore. Fucking stupid
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>>345087916
desu I rage when I'm not playing with friends in qp too
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>>345087850
>Removing the most fun character

Nigga don't be silly. She's actually pretty useful on point defense, great for taking out Tracer and Genji.
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>>345088109
Not just friends, you need to have 5 friends. Otherwise you will get stomped because the last guy will instalock hanzo and won't switch
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What is it about Hanzo which attracts so many fucking scrubs? He's not even fun to use.
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>>345085581
>>345086057
Picked him on WPG on attack and I planted him on the payload with a rein and I destroyed everybody even when they couner pickd. I told them before the match started to trust me and they did even though they had bad experiences in the past and I blew their fucking minds out of their assholes with how confident I was that they thought I was a seagull.
My comp level is 58. All you need is _________to get gud faget___________
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>>345088312
meme mascot like Tracer, but can be actually used without any skill

just spam random arrows and say that you contrubited to the team
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>>345088419
>mfw the hitbox fix is a direct nerf to hanzo shitters
RIP in pieces random headshots.
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>>345088419
Im scared to see how bad things get with hanzo "mains" after the upcoming patches smaller hitboxs are live.
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>>345088478
>>345088513
>smaller hitbox

wait, I completely missed this, source?
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>>345088316
Torb's turret is arguably better for planting on the payload with a Reinhardt protecting it.

>Torb himself can still move around and shoot
>His ult gives the turret survivability even without Rein
>He can dish out armour packs to people

Bastion is a one trick pony.
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>>345086057

He's high risk, high reward and requires a team that supports him to work. Doesn't mean he's a liability. Git gud.
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>>345088582
>Bastion is a one trick pony.
ya well so's your mom lamo
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Bastion serves the unique role of making a Reinhardt completely useless, especially when attacking a payload.

Reinhardt, for some unexplainable reason, causes people to suck and not know how to play around him. So I pick Bastion, remove the Reinhardt, walk back into spawn and swap, or I stay on the payload if we have a shield hero.

I don't pick him otherwise, because the team doesn't usually stick to the "protect our bastion" strat.

With that said, I enjoy shielding him as Zarya for the free charge.
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He is not too bad if you don't get greedy and switch back to mobile form as soon as you can't see any more enemies. Also the team needs to keep an eye on bastion because he needs to be guarded in the same way as the support heroes.
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>>345085581
>Anyone else want OP removed from the board entirely? He's a complete shitter magnet. I'm still seeing him on every board posting, even on something like .vg/ or posting on /vr/ - which is completely retarded.
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>>345088582
Not to mention that it can't be pulled by roadhog and autoaims
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>>345088234
Yep. And I don't even have five friend period. Let alone five friends that all play overwatch who's schedules match up for us to play at the same time
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>>345085581
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>>345088582

Torb and his turret combined don't put out as much DPS as Bastion, not even during Molten Core. Torb's other main downside is that he needs a lot of time to set up both his turret and armor packs. They're different heroes with different strengths. Please think critically.
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>>345088560
Its on the ptr patch notes and there's videos of it.
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>>345088584
>Requires a team that supports him

Oh please. He requires a Rein and that's it. If someone doesn't pick Rein Bastion is fucking worthless.
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>>345085581
play a better game instead
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>>345088935
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuM1caVhDHQ

goddamn that IS a lot better
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>>345086293
All I saw here was 2 reins, a mercy with infinite resurrects and enemies who dont know how to walk around the right side of the building.
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>>345089220
try checking the second one then
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>>345086715
Nope. He just literally has a mercy on top of him all the time so he can't die.
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Reinhardt + Bastion is the shitter league combo, Winston can actually take care of the heroes that Bastion attracts.
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>>345089163
Yeah I'm not sure which will be funnier all the butthurt Hanzo mains or shitposters on /v/ getting BTFO when they post the same outdated webms of Hanzo, Genji, and Mercy with the old hitboxes.
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Honestly I really like seagull but a lot of his vids have that beta guy who's his pocket mercy and it kind of defeats the purpose
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>>345089539
Does the hitbox fix apply to all of them or just Hanzo?
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>>345089712
All projectiles
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>>345088136
>Mei most fun
>Not Slipstream "Sanic" Tracer
>Not Genji "RYUJIN NO KEN WO KURAE" Shimada
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>>345089570
Because he wants to win?
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>>345089898
No I mean I just don't get the legendary status people give him. He's a great player but I think he gets a little too much credit is all.
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>>345085581
I just want him gone because in the run and gun style of the game a character who plants their ass in the ground is boring.
Or at least disable him from getting PotG, its never interesting to watch him spray into a corner.
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>>345090243
Is wiggling left and right as every other hero does that much more exciting?
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>>345087426
I think that zarya is a sort of tongue in cheek fuck you to sjws, they more or less strongarmed and bitched until they got what they wanted, but blizzard knew that the discontent with the lack of diversity of genders and body types was from people that were so hollow and uninvested in their bourgeois cause de jour, that they didnt even stick around to relish in the character that they lobbied for. Thats why Zarya is actually a xenophobic/anti omnic, but their lack of real interest in that particular injustice is evident.
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>>345089331

He streams solo queue because of cunts like you and has the same stats as premades.
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>>345091406
Don't pretend like people don't recognize him and pocket mercy him right off the bat anon
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>>345086293
Strat just failed twice and they bastion team was retarded so it doesn't prove anything either way.
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>>345091372
>bourgeois cause de jour
Their what?
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>>345091406
He's certainly good, but he tends to get PUG Pocket Mercys too since everyone loves to suck his dick.
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THE STUPIDITY OF HUMANITY HAS LEFT ME IN DESPAIR
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>>345092115
>bourgeois
middle class
>de jour (which should be du jour)
of the day

so, "middle class cause of the day," meaning the hot-button topic bored teenagers like to complain about
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>>345092276
Finally a comic that really exemplifies and voices my struggles. Why don't people just stand behind the fucking shield, /v/?
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>>345091406
>>345092180
>>345089331
>>345091864
Actually, he takes Shayed, the Mercy-main from his team, into his random match-up games most of the time. That's why he has a Mercy up his arse 24/7.
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>>345092462
That's kind of hilarious. Now I really don't get why his popularity exploded recently
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>>345092276
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>>345092993
>>345092276
Do you guys have any more?
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>>345093105
wait I have one too
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>>345085754
/thread

OP is a sperg.
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>>345085581
You can actually use the payload like a rail-shooter if you're good enough.
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>>345085581
I don't want him removed, but fuck me, the amount of people who pick him on KOTH pisses me off, I had a match with 2 torbjorns and a bastion on KOTH and we were trying to get the point... we just didn't have the push to get it.

He is pretty easily countered as well, I wish good people would play him
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>>345089014
I actually do worse with Bastion whenever there's a Rein on my team trying to shield me. In my experience, Bastion is best played as a hit-and-run cutting character. You plant him in a corner and wait for a couple of teammates to come through, you shred them, and you haul ass and heal behind cover. Unless Rein plans to follow me every time I get up and hit a different cutting point, he can fuck off. Otherwise, he's just making the two of us a bigger target for the enemy team, on top of being a liability by not shielding his fucking team. Of course it's a different case when I'm on the payload and Rein is shielding me, as we're both contributing to the objective then.

By the way, I'm a firm believer that Bastion can do well in attack maps now that self-healing fills up the ult. More chances for him to do his tank means more survivability for him, and more chances to wipe out enemies and get into position before the enemies come back to the point.
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>>345086923
I have had an instalocked hanzo on my team for the last dozen or so games... please stop
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>>345085581
If he should be nerfed this is what I'd want
>Can't be healed by mercy
>Slower rate of fire
>Take more damage from weakspot
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>>345093820
I went full retard in my post. I meant:
>you plant him in a corner and wait for a couple of ENEMIES to come through, you shred them...
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>>345094220
it's cool senpai I knew what you meant
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>>345086923
Hanzo, Genji and Bastion are all great characters... in the right hands. High tier players frequently pick Hanzo and Genji in solo-q in particular, but they actually bother to aim and play the map instead of staying in one spot and missing pot shots.

Skill levels can completely transform the meta. A Hanzo in 70s is a different beast from a Hanzo in 40s, and if you try to play Pharah in 70s without consistently landing direct hits you're probably gonna suck a lot worse than if you were playing Pharah in low MMR.

What I'm saying is, it's just a game, why you hafta be mad?
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>>345092672
He's still a pretty good player, he explains the game and what's happening well when he's not focusing super hard, he uploads a lot, and he isn't an asshole.
There aren't that many people that fullfill those criteria.
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>>345093603
not under my watch shitter
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>>345093820
If they want to make Bastion more useful to pros, what they need to do is give him more mobility so he can pull that role off better. Maybe change "turret mode" so you hold down M2 to reconfigure, then press M1 to fire, then release M2 to go back to recon, then give him a new LShift that gives him a quick speed boost or lets him drive up walls or something.
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>everyone makes fun of the bastion player in the end of the match
Love it
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>>345094568
>>345097073
stop posting this shitskin
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>koth
>Enemy team has a torb
>Spend entire match harassing him and destroying his turrets before they get to level 2.

Even though it's confusing as fuck to see him on koth It's always funny seeing him wail on a level 1 in vain as to try and out heal my damage output.
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Only character that should be removed is Mei. Every other character has their use, can be fun to play with or against, and generally aren't just obnoxious. Mei drags the entire game down because she's just aggravating to deal with, not even that she's OP it's just that there's absolutely zero enjoyment to be had in being stopped dead in your tracks by her freeze gun for far longer than even mcree's flashbang (which i recall a lot of people complaining about at launch) or having anything you do get cockblocked by an ice wall (especially when it's one from your own team) or just having to wait a few seconds while she hides in her safe space immune from literally everything.
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>>345097073
I dunno, Sentry mode fucks everyone up except for Genji
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>>345097095
I would like this, but give him a short wind up of like .7 seconds
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>>345088316
>58
>somehow thinks this is worth bragging about
I'm 61 out of placements, and I'm not even good. The only person who needs to acquire skill here is you.
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>>345092305
I wish people would stop lumping the working middle class citizenry with the cockmongling worhtless subhumans that make up the SJW caste.
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>>345098929
He'd presumably keep the 1.5s on/0.5s off charge of reconfigure so a wind-up just gimps him.
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>>345091372
>but their lack of real interest in that particular injustice is evident.
Thats because SJW and tumblerinas only care about characters looks, they are the most superficial people in the west
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>>345099525
Even a really short one? .5 seconds
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>>345099601
Why? He's under-powered as it is and you want to nerf him?
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Just revert him back to his beta state with the shield and lack of turning ability
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>>345086357
>As Genji find a way to get near him. (i.e running straight through the enemy team is a fast way to an early grave) deflect for the final approach. If he's a retard he will kill himself before he reaches you then just circle behind him and rape him.

even better if you can just run past the whole team and just get behind them

then start throwing stars in his butt and if he retaliates, deflect
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>>345085581
>tfw lvl 50
>tfw I get 4 gold medals.
>tfw other team rages at the end of the match.
>"fuck you bastion! "
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>>345089770
>>345089712
>>345089539
>>345089163
its in testing, so they might not even go with it

there are still balance changes happening on PTR
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>>345085581
The game itself is a shitter magnet, you have other problems.
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>>345100053
>play bastion on defense
>5 gold medals
>faggot on my team"bastion was a terrible pick btw kys"
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>>345086368
>all these buzzwords still in active use
>in the year 1008 +1008
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There are two cases where Bastion is a god send.

If you know the enemy is going to be using Reindhardt or if they start stacking Reins or Monkeys.
Or
If they lack long range characters.

Not even kidding, Bastion still sees some niche uses like that even at Rank 70+, probably going to disappear with the removal of hero stacking though.
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