we can love it now
same like Bioshock Infinite
>>345077630
But DOOM was actually good.
>>345078030
the obligatory contrarian period expired. we can like it now
Campaign expansion when? Snap Map not being a hassle to create/play when?
>>345078152
But Bioshock Infinite was bad.
I played it, I enjoyed it, but it was bad.
Doom's single-player wasn't just passable, it was actually pretty rock solid.
>>345077630
it's pretty average but has that wow factor same as infinite did
when people go back to it in a year they will see that it really isn't anything special at all
>>345077630
But it's good
DOOM is pretty damn decent, it's fucking great compared to the usual AAA shit that comes out, but Bioshock Infinite is garbage.
>>345077630
So who canonically has more rage?
Doomguy or DOOMSLAYER?
Sure, DOOMSLAYER is angry but Doomguy did all this shit WITHOUT the help of the Serephim or Praetor.
>>345079101
They're the same person.
>>345079101
>Not realizing they're the same guy
fuck off shill
I just realized that in the meta-story in the new Doom, Bethesda is hell
>>345078425
It is something pretty damn special, look around at other FPS. This game is a DOOM game and it displays proudly and fuck I love that.
I am so happy they didn't go through the Doom 3 where they focused more on technology rather than on rock solid gameplay.
The Bioshock Infinite hate period will end shortly after the heat death of the universe, feel free to like it afterwards.
>>345079184
>>345079154
I know that, but after all the shit that he has seen (Not to mention what the Serephim did to him and having to cross dimension after dimension for millennia with a group of knights) he can't be classified as human any more. Besides, his rage may be subsided if you look at the two.
>>345077630
>>345078152
Who's this we you keep referring too? I thoroughly enjoyed the new Doom. And I've seen a overwhelming number of threads about it where other anons share that opinions moreso than the ones that hate it which are usually those retards that can't dodge fireballs on nightmare difficulty.
Bioshock Infinite on the other hand was a shitty game. We've discussed this more than enough times.
Stop trying to speak for everyone, faggot.
>>345079283
no, it's a bizarre mish mash of garbage modern game design and what could have been solid shootan all held together by paperclips and rubberbands
>>345077630
Bioshock: Infinite was and still is fucking AIDs dude. Only good shock game is SS2
>>345078298
you played neither yet only think you played both
>>345077630
there's still no mod potential so no, not really. the game might be alright but it'll never be as good as the original DOOM
>>345079461
As a guy that honestly didnt like d44m I don't think it was that bad.
Just found it extremley overated and felt way too much like serious sam with smaller areanas. Plus that fucking upgrade system that shouldnt be anywhere near a single doom game.
>>345077630
>we can love it now
>we
Like what you want, you don't need permission from this fucking lot, Christ.
New Doomguy is objectively the baddest ass ever playable.
>Literally only exists to fuck up demon shit
>Spent eternity trapped in Hell on a roaring rampage of vengeance and bloodlust, fuelled only by his fucking rage
>Is angry as fuck at everything to do with Hell
>Can run around carrying tons of equipment, ammo, explosives and experimental weaponry without giving a SHIT
>Can double jump
>Singlehandedly fucks up Hell, Mars, Hell (at least two more times), all the demons in Hell plus anything else that gets in his way
>Saves a backup of VEGA even though he had no reason to
Normal vidya characters would get PTSD in the sequel from this sort of trauma as part of their character development.
Doomguy IS the trauma.
>>345077630
>checkpoints, lockdown sequences, and points of no return every three minutes
>no modding
nah
>>345079923
Also, cocking the shotgun dramatically in time with the tasty riff shows Doomguy has a sense of dramatic timing, which is essential for any real badass.
Was Hayden right?
>>345080178
>Harnessing Hell itself for energy
>"No way this'll ever go wrong!"
>"It's for the good of mankind!"
>LITERALLY FUCKING WITH HELL
hayden was so wrong
I really want to buy D44M as it is only £19 on GMG, but I bought so much in the summer sales that I have yet to get around too.
Can someone redpill me on whether I should get it or not, pls?
>>345079923
not to mention he has a sense of morality and will not hesitate to destroy advanced technology if it puts the human race in danger due to hell portals
>>345080264
buy it you fuck, it's fucking rad.
also PCfriends got the Vulkan API patched in recently which makes it optimised as fuck.
>>345080264
I don't use GMG. Is there a way to gift it to people?I'll gift it to you.
>>345080264
get a $4 denuvo bypass instead. game will b installed by remote access
>no time limit
>no MP bullshit
>cheaper
>>345079923
>can't run at the speed of rockets
>doesn't punch demons out with knuckle dusters
>no giant smiles
>>345080489
>Trusting Russian pirates with control of your computer
anon no
>>345080264
That's not what "redpilling" means, and also stop using that retarded term.
>>345080254
But it was Olivia's idea.
He was just trying to do whats best to save Humanity.
>>345080702
>Implying hedoesn't cast you back to Hell so as to harness his gayass hell energy without Doomguy ripping him to shredsI was actually rather disappointed at the lack of a boss fight for him.
>>345080779
>DLC
>>345081013
>Sequel
>>345081036
>Fuck
>>345079503
SS1 is fine if you get used to the controls imo. music is GOAT
DOOM single player is fucking great. Multiplayer is fucking garbage though.
Hasn't everyone always known this?
>>345080507
He's kind of got a big ol' grin in D44M. Look at the menu for the suit upgrades and look in his visor, it's a little subtle.
>>345081595
THIS BAIT IS EXTREME
>>345080779
>implying the deaths at UAC would even be a drop in the bucket compared to the destruction that would be caused by the solar system wide energy crisis that Hayden prevented
He literally did nothing wrong. In fact, he saved mankind.
>>345081697
>Implying the demons wouldn't have rampaged throughout all of space and time if Doomguy didn't stop them
fuck Samuel
>>345081595
but i love the MP. its fast and fun as fuck, dont really get the hate for it.
>>345081761
Who is the mega man character on the left?
>>345081761
>its fast and fun as fuck
it's not though
>>345077630
>only a few jump scares of an imp got behind you while focusing on something else
>locked down arena demon killing only
>powerups everywhere
>boring Glory kills after the first few
>no real threat of dying since enemies explode in hp if you are low enough
I dunno guy, it was an ok shooter, but a poor doom game.
Props to the person who designed the Super Shotgun and its perks though.
>>345081761
okay, maybe 'garbage' was too much of a criticism. it's not terrible, but finding a match takes WAY too long. and there are hackers everywhere. and why can't i have a private match with, like, just four people? the multiplayer was not set up well.
it's pretty fun, but there aren't enough options to say it's 'good.'
>>345081850
Hellrazer.
>>345079101
Doomguy is like Vader, feared, calm and dangerous.
Doomslayer is like Kylo Ren, a whiny little shit that breaks electronic hardware with his tantrum.
I keep getting random crashes after the Vulkan patch. Thanks Bethesda.
>>345081982
>Implying Doomguy or Doomslayer can be compared to anything
they're in a class of their own and are fucking each other's shit up in it the entire time
>>345081737
They only managed to open a portal on Mars, and that's also why Hayden went through so much trouble to get you out of hell. You're a contingency plan to subdue demons and keep humanity chugging along on hell cummies
>>345079923
To quote Walter White: "I am not in danger, I AM the danger."
>>345081903
i've played for 15 hours, 0 hackers so far. Matches are found in 10 seconds, they are half full to completely full usually, and during the game the server usually fills up. Must be your region. im playing in EU.
>>345077630
SP is ok'ish though certain maps just kill me with all the lag spikes it gives. I dunno if I will even bother with mp due to the negative reports I've read.
>>345082437
>it's the game's fault I play on a toaster
K
I was really disappointed by the monster designs, I expect somethings more hellish and unnerving, they all look like cartoony aliens except for barons, which are fine honestly.
Also no:
>dedicated server tools
>LAN
>modding tools
>PROPER mapmaking tools
>lackluster multiplayer options
>>345083123
It's not like original DOOM enemies were unnerving. In fact for example Cacodemons in this game are creepier than before so it does even better in that regard.
>>345077630
nope doom has no plot or characters development
The thing that really surprised me in D2016 is boss battles.
It's like someone ripped Ys boss battles and adapted them to FPS.
I wish there was more of them.
>>345083936
That's the best thing about it
>>345083936
But that's a good thing
The few unskippable cutscenes were the worst parts of the game
>>345084069
Boss battles were great.
>Tfw Cyberdemon's was disappointing
>Until round two
>>345080264
There's enough information out there shoved in your face for you to have formed an opinion.
D44m is the only decent fps game to come out in years, if you've enjoyed FPS games within the past 10 years you'll probably enjoy yourself.
>>345083936
>wanting a ```````cinematic experience´´´´´´´´´ after MGSV
>>345084359
>mfw the way you kill the final boss
>>345084530
>That shot in the credits of Doomguy standing over it's corpse
fuck this game was metal
>>345084359
His second round is directly inspired by Pictimos from Ys Origins.
Honestly i wish more western devs started looking at japanese developers for boss battle designs, shit was great.
>>345084612
My favorite shot in the credits was either the little doomguy figure getting screamed at by a pinky or the final one that imitates the original
Infinite was, is and will forever be trash.
DOOM was pretty good, not quite Doom, but good in its own way (singleplayer only, multiplayer is shitty nu-halo clone)
>every DOOM thread starts with the ugly forgettable cover
>>345077630
I enjoyed Doom.
Biosock Infinicock is popycock.
>>345083936
They added that shit to Wolfenstein and it ruined the whole thing
>>345077630
it'll be praised to the high heavens once the crack is out
>>345077630
Go ahead and love D44M, it's a fine painkiller-like FPS
You're not allowed to love Bioshlock Infinite though, that should be illegal
>>345078241
>Campaign expansion
when rockstar makes one for gtav :^)
>>345077630
Remember when this game just came out and people were claiming it to be a failure on TORtanic levels?
Oh how times have changed.
I love that the physical pc game only gives you 7gb of the 46gb it needs to be played.
BETHESDA QUALITY CONTROL AT IT'S FINEST
>>345087576
no that was perfect they managed to add depth to characters while shooting was still really enjoyable, while i have only shooting i will get boring fast unless it's mp game
people who did nothing wrong
pic related
>>345079923
For Daisy.
>>345083204
nuDoom enemies resemble aliens more than demons
>>345079923
Soooo Doomguy is chaotic good? Is that how chaotic good works?
>its only bad for a limited amount of time
>the same reddit faggots who aways liked it are still shilling this garbage
why do you people love to ruin everything?
>>345077630
is it worth buying to play it on console?
>>345088467
I repsect him as a youtuber but his opinions are fucking shit when it comes to that video,
>>345087815
hahhahaha. mkdev said its got hundreds of triggers...requiring a custom crack just for it. never aVER (just pay $3 to have it bypassed on your pc)
>>345078030
so good that it went on sale for 40% only a month after its release
kek
>>345089791
Are you implying that a game's quality has something to do with its commercial success?
>>345077630
Doom 4 was immediately good and the disgust was because of the really shitty marketing.
Bioshock Infinite was highly anticipated and turned out to be shit.
>>345079923
>Normal vidya characters would get PTSD in the sequel from this sort of trauma as part of their character development.
>
>Doomguy IS the trauma
nice
>>345077630
>same like Bioshock infinite
My two thoughts:
1) bait thread.
2) you're underage.
I loved every second of D44M, but I have some harsh criticisms of the design after my first playthrough.
I only played Bioshock Infinite to see what I didn't get about it, and there was fucking nothing to it.
The writing is stumbling over itself at every corner. I thought I was just dumb while playing it, but any plot analysis and summary confirms it's just pretentious shit that doesn't have any goals and doesn't even conclude the story in a meaningful way.
The gameplay was trash. No level design worth mentioning, all guns handling the fucking same with a couple being objectively superior. Vigors also had no variety and were either damage dealing, or damage+stun. No difficulty considering you can't even fucking die correctly.
>>345087261
That was prob one of the worst things about it. The cover art and face of the game was meh.
>>345087959
I only remember that for like 48 hours from people who weren't playing it.
You can talk a lot of shit on /v/ but you can't convince people of anything. Doom 4 is a fun game and no matter how much people were shitposting, they were wrong according to most people that played the game.
>>345089791
As do all Bethesda games, it was still fucking great.
>>345077630
It's terrible
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkJMYRz8RMQ
>>345089627
I play it on PC with a controller for comfyness and don't have a problem.
>>345089791
Are you salty you didn't buy it cause I'm notSince I did buy it.
>>345090974
>but any plot analysis and summary confirms it's just pretentious shit that doesn't have any goals and doesn't even conclude the story in a meaningful way.
every single one of them
it is essentially: "it's a multiverse until the plot dictate it isnt" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdNhwb7iuI4
>>345091163
That dude sure is butt blistered for getting called out. Nice try trying to predict what the mob held belief would be and making a video supporting the hivemind but you goofed bud.
>>345079923
>AN ANCIENT EVIL AWAKENS
>it's Doomguy
I still can't believe how well this game turned out.
>>345091163
don't steal my bait lad
>>345091395
Why didn't I see this.
>>345078298
>I played it, I enjoyed it, but it was bad.
>>345091752
it's like fucking your mom. she is a bad woman, i am a bad man, but I enjoyes every second of it.
>>345079302
The Bioshock Infinite hate period will end shortly after the series has been through reboot hell and a game called BioShock: Infinite comes and is actually good.Alternatively, the Bioshock Infinite hate period ended a long time ago because we're living in an alternate universe where Bioshoch Infinite was shit.
>>345081595
I've only played MP for a couple of hours, so far it's been allright. I think it would be improved a lot with some sort of additional movement mechanics.
I'm still not super fond of loadouts, at least the ability to pick up enemy weapons would be nice. Then again, Vortex Rifle + Shotgun makes everything else obsolete.mouse1 q mouse1 q mouse1 q
>>345089627
I've seen gameplay on controller vs keyboard and mouse... if you really want that fast run-and-gun that the game offers, you're gonna need a mouse anon. It's really not the same without one.
>>345091980
>>345081850
it's astroboy you uneducated pleb
>>345084612
The story and world is so ridiculous but the way the characters played it completely straight was perfect.>Olivia's holograms speaking in fucking tongues
>>345079923
I liked how Doomguy just mashed on elevator buttons and swiped touch screens as quickly and effenicently as possible. It's like he's thinking "yeah yeah get this over with"
It gives you the sense that this isn't the first time he's been in a video game, y'know?
>>345077630
>same like Bioshock Infinite
Kill yourself.
>>345094361
The UAC here is probably my favorite thing about the game actually. They are basically fracking into Hell itself for profit, but they are so business class professional about the whole thing.
>The UAC: Weaponizing the Demons of Hell, for your safety!
>>345081013
>>345081036
>Hayden uses his tether system he forcibly installed into Doomguy's suit to rip him off to some random corner of hell so he can rebuild Argent Tower in peace
>Doomguy still has that copy of VEGA
>installs it into his suit
>VEGA gets rid of the tether system, gives him a way to get back on Mars
calling it, this is how the DLC/Sequel or whatever is gonna do
So what are people's thoughts on the System Shock reboot demo?
I like how neo-/v/ did a 180 on neo-doom. I tried the demo and didn't. This shit is unplayable thanks to finishers.
>>345077630
It was a good game but it awfully made me remember Painkiller all the time except for some perks like finishing moves.
But if I had to choose between the two, I'd choose Painkiller, badass soundtrack and way more enemies.
>>345095486
The demo level is almost a tutorial in itself. Finishers are completely optional, you can almost always shoot the enemy again for a regular kill without finishers (exceptions are big guys like barons or mancubi, which may require a rocket or a SSG blast). If the highlights bother you, you can just turn them off
>>345089438
Lawful Good.
>>345079407
Yet, D44M is the first game where we visibly get a hint of how angry he his. Ripping off monitors, offering a dead human pity while Samuel Hayden rambled on a bout best of intentions, destroying Hayden's work to spite him and the hell he helped bringing onto his reality. He's just as pissed off as in the other games, if not more so.
>>345078298
I agree. I had fun with Bioshock Infinite, but it was a game that can only be enjoyed for a single playthrough. It was too scripted, the combat was subpar, the weapons were just okay, and the story was worse than the previous games. It's not necessarily fun, but it's a good experience. DOOM was actually fun though. It was satisfying. All of the focus was on the gunplay. Still not worth as many playthroughs as the original titles, but it had much more replayability than Infinite.
/v/, remember this: Good games are defined by how many times you can enjoy them. They are the games that you reinstall when you see a screenshot of them. Games that you enjoy and never play again, might be good at the time, but they won't be remembered as being such.
>>345080264
It's one of a very few FPS to come out in recent memory that is actually good for an FPS and not just compared to the shit we've been getting recently. If you like classics like Blood, Painkiller, etc. you'll probably enjoy D44M.
>people still whining about the finishers
did you complain about zandatsu in MGR too?
not counting the berserk ones they are short and if anything this shit makes the flow better, a bit of slowdown between the massacre helps the pacing
>never played original Doom but bought the reboot because of hype on here
>started campaign on ultra violence with glory kill highlights turned off for more immersion
>get bored of repetitive game play
>not interested in story or characters
>violence and gore is so laughable I don't know how this game is rated R
>realise most of this game's praise comes from nostalgic 30 year olds who think Doomguy is the ultimate badass
>never listen to /v/ again
>>345080178
He is not the villain in this story
>>345097056
>never played original Doom
>bought the reboot because of hype
>>345080178
>>345097142
He's probably being corrupted by outside forces without realizing it.
>>345082427
What modes you play and what platform?
>>345079101
Doomguy berserk packs don't wear off until an entire level is over. Doomslayer has a very limited time to his.
I'm not sure if that makes him more or less angry.
>>345081850
Mighty No 9 returned to Hell after jewing humanity.
>>345091178
>controller
Serious question. Is a controller in any way good to use for an FPS that gets as fast as DOOM? I understand a controllers use in say, COD or Halo, but how can you even manage to rotate quick enough with a stick.
I'd imagine anything passed a medium difficulty is impossible with a controller.
>>345097736
It's playable but not really ideal. As with really any FPS game you're just gimping your potential and gimping the pace of the game by rolling with controller. If you though the multiplayer looked bad on PC, console gameplay looks even worse
>>345079923
Imagine if Sony became id's publisher?
They would force them to pull a God of War on it.
>He's the last survivor for Phobos and Deimos
>He was stranded on Earth to face the demonic hordes
>He was trapped in hell for eternity
I'm glad they made it as OOT as possible instead of making it another Cinematic Experience(tm) like every other game these fucking days.They nearly did that anyway, webm related. We dodged a fucking tank shell there.
Lol can't even mention Bioshock Infinite on the same sentence as DOOM. They're technically same genre but that's about it. DOOM is a good game.
>>345097736
I have no difficulty with using a controller over a keyboard. I do better but it's not that hard of a game where it will make the difference. The few times I die it's because of mistakes I made that would have happened whether I had a mouse or not.
>>345098158
>they're technically the same genre
really?
>>345098710
The game not handing you that sicknasty autoaim headshot when the enemy was barely on screen isn't an issue when playing with a mouse.
>>345098019
>webm
Still fucking cringe to this day, lucky they reboot
>>345077630
I'm liking nightmare on the last level. I crutch hard on the holograms and stun bombs though.
>>345091163
he's right even if he is a bit over dramatic about it
>>345079923
>Doomguy IS the trauma.
>>345078152
Bioshock Infinite was legitimately bad and I paid $0 for it
>>345077630
>tfw Vulkan renderer made my humble 7950 rarely drop below 60fps at the same settings where it would rarely go above that with OpenGL.
Meanwhile Nvidia leaves 780ti owners rotting in their own filth. Remember kids, don't do Nvidia.
It's just Hard Reset in space with cinematic finisher moves.
Was he the villain in this story?
>>345091980
>straw-man argumenting so much
>>345077630
>same like Bioshock Infinite
It's still bad
>>345097007
i liked them in the sense that you literally RIP AND TEAR but i disliked the way they warped the music that was playing, the soundtrack is god tier and glory kills have a retarded sound effect that stops the music playing
>>345097056
>ultra violence with glory kill highlights turned off
AYO HOLD UP
is this actually possible? how do glory kills work then
>>345101371
That's not what a strawman is. That's ad hominem if anything
>>345101678
The same, just without the highlight
>>345097407
As a tradeoff though, Doomslayer's go way more ripping and tearing than Doomguy's.
>>345079923
>An ancient evil awakens
>And it's YOU
>>345101678
If an enemy stops moving, chances are you can glorykill it.
>>345101801
>just without the highlight
what is the highlight then
oh you mean the blue/orange flashing light?
>be 34, kids are asleep, wife watching random shit anime
>tfw nightly ultra-nightmare runs until I die 5+ times before going to bed
I didn't read reviews until later this week. I don't play as much as I like to or even browse 4chan like the old days, but it's nice to see /v/ enjoyed it as much as I do; stay rad fellas.
Fixing what ain't broke: the game
>>345078152
>fucked up weapons
>fucked up enemies
>fucked up plasmids, sorry I mean "vigors"
>story turns into a clusterfuck of pseudo intellectual bullshit and the ending is garbage
>literally only good for a couple of its scripted events if you like that sort of thing
>basically inferior to the first two in every way
>but its actually a great game we can love it now guys!
At best its offensively mediocre for how much they hyped it up, it really does nothing special
>>345102215
how so
>>345101169
No, he was the hero.
>>345102451
>chainsaw is fucking lame and is just press x to fuel 4 kills
>upgrades instead of just making use of items in each level
>points of no return and lockdown sequences every 2 minutes
>berserk pack is press x to instakill for a short amount of time instead of superfists for the rest of the level
>>345079923
He saved a VEGA backup? When?
>>345103075
>>points of no return and lockdown sequences every 2 minutes
Not true. I haven't finished the game but I've only hit a point of no return once and I'm at least half way through it.
>berserk pack is press x to instakill for a short amount of time instead of superfists for the rest of the level
Also not true, regular attack works.
I agree the chainsaw isn't what I wanted but it's also an insta kill button so it's different.
>>345103202
After you destroy Vega's cooling system and get to the room with the main processor or some shit, before you initialize the selfdestruct sequence you can see Doomguyslayer backing it up on the computer
>>345080069
This is objectively correct
>>345077630
new doom was fun. I see it as doom 3 if Id decided to go the opposite direction during that time.
Its nothing like doom 1 or 2 though and thats fine. If I wanted to play doom 1 or 2, I can just doomseeker some custom maps.
8/10 Definitely not worth the $60 though, I waited for the sale to get it for $30.
>>345103274
>Also not true
It pulls your fists out and forces you to do cutscene kills.
>>345104169
They take like 0.5 seconds.
>>345104318
They're still cutscene kills, and they still don't fix the shit map design.
>>345104376
>shit map design
how so? I think the maps are well made.
>>345091163
He has some reasonablely good points, especially in regards to the soundtrack (I'd take fucking passion pit over that garbage) and the enemy spawns, but for the most part, he's kind of just a dramatic twat.
>>345104527
Because there is no map design. It's just hallways connecting arenas that lock you in and make you fight waves of respawning enemies.
>>345097007
While I dislike the concept of glory kills I agree with the zandatsu comparison.
Its a worthwhile part of the game that forces the player to manage time vs health/armor
>>345104681
Uh, not really most maps are open and loop back to a central area much like a doom map. But OK you're welcome to that opinion.
>>345104824
No they're not.
>>345104681
What you mean to say is MAP DESIGNER.
>>345104879
>Level loops back to the central area
>>345077630
why the fuck do you care what other kids think? could you be anymore of an underage faggot 12 year old.
>>345104879
>Level has two major hubs with lots of spokes
>>345104376
>Have shit opinion
>Get called out
>Change your argument in the same sentence and replace it with another shit opinion.
Jesus Christ.
>>345104991
That looks a lot like a real Doom map to me.
>>345105084
>hallways connecting arenas that you are locked inside to fight waves of respawning enemies
Do any enemies larger than a Hell Knight appear outside of those arenas?
>>345077630
Only true cucks would enjoy Bioshock Infinite.
>>345103274
I'm not sure about the first levels but they're definitely fucking there in the later levels. Hell there's a part in the later levels where a door locks behind you but just opens itself up again if you jump to the area before it, like what's the damn point?
>>345105181
Yeah summoners but I'm not any further into the game so I can't say.
>>345096137
>Good games are defined by how many times you can enjoy them
I seriously disagree, I don't think this plays any factor in determining a good game.
Bioshock Infinite is also the game I hate the most, it's the culmination of everything wrong with modern video games from all perspectives, consumer and developer
>>345105478
>metacritic user reviews
meh
>>345091163
I'm about 12 minutes in. Does he complain about the armor being nothing but a secondary health bar?
>>345105478
Or I guess not. Holy shit. I'm going to forget reading this so I don't lose faith in people.
>>345105753
Jesus I forgot about that, why do upgrade systems need to be a thing in every game?
>>345106043
I wasn't talking about the upgrade system, I was talking about how if you have full armor and 1 health, any damage you will take will go to the armor first.
>>345103687
How is a 8/10 game not worth fullprice?
>>345106372
Because it's only an 8-hour single player with no mods and shit multiplayer.
>>345104879
Yeeeeah they do?
>>345106226
Oh shit I'm sorry, I was talking about how it doesn't let you increase your health and armor past 100 unless you collect the max health item or upgrade your max health and armor.
>>345090920
>Still spouting the "Bioshock Infinite was bad" meme
I still don't get this. It wasn't outstanding or anything, but people act like it literally raped their parents after killing them.
>>345107607
It might as well have raped video games after killing them though
>>345105478
>it's the culmination of everything wrong with modern video games from all perspectives, consumer and developer
What?
How?
Because its a decent game that got really high reviews? Holy shit, haven't seen that since the Atari 2600.
>>345077630
Stop with the shilling, it's super popular here and you know it. Though I doubt it deserves it's popularity.
>>345108119
Haven't played it?
>>345107926
It highlights a lot of issues. It has a genuinely bad story that doesn't even get it's own theory right in the ending, and is later praised by people who don't understand it/are too stupid to realize how it doesn't even solve anything. It shows how shallow minded the mass gaming audience is if this is held up as a pinnacle game, it's literally for sheep who want to walk through a fun house of pretty bells and whistles and occasionally shoot something at a shooting gallery.
This vid does a pretty good job of conveying how I feel about it, but I honestly feel Infinite is harmful to games at large
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdNhwb7iuI4
>>345091752
You're an absolute pleb if you can't understand that some things you enjoy are objectively badlike playing video games
>>345077630
Doom is fine.
Infinite was a fuck up
>>345108519
>Matthewmatosis
God damn it. Just to be clear I don't disagree that Infinite is shit but its always Matthewmatosis.
D44M is fucking GOTY for me, the single player is really damn fun
I hope for the inevitable sequel they make Doom Slayer movement speed a bit faster and keep Mick Gordon around for the soundtrack
>>345091395
Oh my god thats fucking brilliant
>>345077630
Doom has more character customisation than Bioshock Infinite.
it has more open levels than Bioshock Infinite.
It has better shooting than Bioshock Infinite.
It has better weapons than Bioshock Infinite.
It has better gameplay mechanics than Bioshock Infinite.
Doom has (far) better enemy variation than Bioshock Infinite.
It's story, as simplistic and basic as it might be, still makes sense and isn't riddled from top to bottom with fucking plot holes, so from a technical point of view it has a better story than Bioshock Infinite.
Fucking Doom has a better story than Bioshock Infinite. Think about that for a moment.
System Shock 2 and Bioshock 1 and 2 were some of the best fps games I'd ever played, and I'd hyped myself up into a frenzy for Bioshock Infinite from the moment I'd seen the first trailer. When the reviews came out hailing a ten out of ten game, my hype-boner only got bigger.
The day I played Bioshock Infinite remains one of the most disappointing game-related moments I've ever experienced. I'm still angry. Three years on and I'm still fucking angry.
>>345112110
You're lying to yourself if you think Bioshock Infinite didn't keep you entertained, you're lying if you think it wasn't one of the best games of that year, you're lying if there was a fuckin moment in that game, during your first play through, that you weren't having a blast.
I will never understand where the hate for this game comes from, and it's most certainly because I didn't look at any of the trailers or anything like that.
You just expected too much.
>>345112512
it is shit bro
I preordered it.
The beginning is ok, but seems too tryhard, the middle is a tedious unfun slog, the end is abrupt and they lied about factions, plasmid, elizabeth's abilitites and world interaction.
>>345109517
want some other opinions?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEuJVAOoAyA
>>345105181
Mancubus, Caco. Rarely hell knights.
I think doom would have been better without the terribly balanced weapon mods, mod upgrades, and runes
>>345077630
>we
>thinks Bioshock Infinite is good
What a fucking faggot you are, could you be a bigger faggot?
>>345112512
>Lying
>On the internet
Who the fuck do you think I am? Hitler?
The hate for this game comes from how severely it dumbed shit down for the sake of a wider audience.
"Want a good selection of plasmids? Fuck off. Here's four vigours and four different versions of 'stun'."
"You DON'T want an overshield in a Bioshock game? Come on, anon, all the cool games are doing it!"
"What do you mean doubling the weapon count and fucking up any progression the player has made on upgrading their current arsenal about halfway through the game is a bad idea? More guns is always better!"
"Tonics? Screw that, lets just have a system where you can choose from a grand total of five perks"
"Hey kid, you like fighting ghosts, right?"
>>345101924
Yes
>>345113932
>"Hey kid, you like fighting ghosts, right?"
HAVING TO FIGHT THAT PIECE OF SHIT ON 1999 MODE DIFFICULTY 3 TIMES DURING MY FIRST (AND ONLY) PLAYTHROUGH IS WITHOUT HYPERBOLE ONE OF THE WORST TIMES I'VE HAD PLAYING A VIDEO GAME
