Breeding Season collapse
Old thread
>>345056241
What's the target audience of this game?
Females?
Do I have to target tumblrinas to get big patreonbux?
>>345075746
Can you stop posting these threads, it's done get over it. It's just a furry porn depository now
Why is it funnier to discuss why games collapse instead of playing them.
Who should they hire to replace Schiwg? Because I know there are many artists with a good western style that could work very well on it.
>>345075947
Why is it funnier to see a race car crash and burn rather than see it win a race? There's your answer.
>>345075746
freindly reminder that hbox is a fool and shwig is scum
>>345075936
Porn games generally target the 12-60y old male audiences.
>>345075936
Anyone interested in monster sex.
>>345075969
Obviously Doxy. Just as much, if not more brand recognition, highly professional, has a proven track record with games, and a way better artist than Shwig ever was.
>>345075746
>>345075969
It's dead, Jim. They aren't hiring anyone. Shwig was able to gut it through dumb contract shit while he did shit on the side. HBomb pulled an Andross and released all assets.
>people actually gave money for this.
Seriously you people are fucking retarded and you deserved to be scammed.
>>345075885
>artstyle
He can't do that, he can remove the assets but if an artist came along and decided to take the current designs and change them bit still within the artstyle he wouldn't be able to do shit. For example, take pic related and make in a bit slender or a bit more muscly or a bit taller or a bit smaller or even just change a feature on him, like tail or face, that's technically a new design and Schiwg can't do anything about it.
What they need is a good copycat.
>>345075947
Building a game takes years, playing games is something people do it private.
A game crashing happens suddenly, you can discuss people instead of complex ideas.
>>345076185
Nah, Schwig retained his own copyright on them because of a shitty contract.
https://www.patreon.com/CloudMeadow
Now at 139 patrons, $519 a month. Backers are showing their IQ level.
>>345076234
Which is why its likely they agreed to crash bs project to move onto something. No one hires an artist and let him keep the rights to the art he does for the company.
>>345075936
Furries and faggots.
>>345076095
Out of curiosity, I mapped out what scenes are animated. It's laughable that people are singling out the programmers when you see just how much the game is lacking after three years of making art assets.
I mean, the core of the game is making monsters fugg, and the exotic touch, the "wow factor," is combining special traits (like feral and genderswap) for unique monsters. Despite this, there's practically nothing to show for it. Most of the regular cat scenes are done, and that's about it. The male pc's animations are barebones - to the point where he gets none of the exotic scenes.
Pic related - black means no animation, dark green means there's an animation and there's a good chance the colors will match what you chose, and light green means poor chance the colors will match. White means I didn't test it, but the pattern is pretty apparent.
If you are playing a male pc and don't care for the catgirls, prepare to see next to nothing.
Resized
>>345076313
>Which is why its likely they agreed to crash bs project to move onto something.
Did you not read the blogpost whatsoever?
>>345076019
Females are the biggest consumers ofdrawnporn in Japan.
I wouldn't be surprised if that's true in the west as well.
>>345075969
Doxy already offered to do that exact thing, it's just a matter of if H-Bomb wants to pick up the pieces and start over.
Honestly though, if he ever decides to do that, he needs to go back to the basics of what he started. The game ballooned into something way too fucking complex which the team wasn't prepared to handle.i swear im not just saying this because i liked the older builds where the game was more rooted in bestiality than furry
>>345075947
Because this one crashed and burned in such an entertaining way. I didn't give two fucks about this shitty game before this.
>>345076234
That's what I'm talking about, he can retain the art which is literally the most finished version of the design, he can't however complain or do anything if someone steals his artstyle, which is the way he draws the anatomy, the type of lighting he uses and so on.
For ownership issues he can't, like I said, even complain if they just change a few tidbits of the existing designs and then start using them again.
jeez /v/, what's left to talk about?
>>345076420
>For ownership issues he can't, like I said, even complain if they just change a few tidbits of the existing designs and then start using them again.
They can't edit the original assets whatsoever, they have to start over from scratch.
>>345076268
>Isn't the concept of breeding copyrighted!?
I'm fucking dying
>>345076378
Nah they don't need to do that, simply DON'T add any new design and work on adding more scenes, that's it. It takes very little time to do those.
>>345076378
>The game ballooned into something way too fucking complex which the team wasn't prepared to handle.
BS is like the first thing I think of when someone mentions the term "feature creep"
>>345076358
I did. They could agree to fake the outrage to ditch project fans donated half a million to without actually having to finish the game.
>>345076362
aka tumblr.
>>345075969
Incase.
Add Goblins and dwarves
>>345076570
>They could agree to fake the outrage to ditch project fans donated half a million to without actually having to finish the game.
That's retarded because it fucks them over in the long run. Your theory is badly thought out.
>>345076537
Shwig owns all of the art and they wouldn't be able to use any of it without risking him pulling some bullshit. They would need to remake the assets from scratch.
>>345075746
you sure love to talk about a no-game that went nowhere and delivered nothing.
Is it the sore of losing hundreds of dollars on it?
Why did you faggots back this game when Japs make their games without needing to do a Patreon?
>>345076493
So what, he can't sue them for tracing and making similar designs. The art itself is so simplistic that an experienced artist could redo every character in one month.
>>345076346
Truth is to make this game you'd need a team of about 10 animators full time, getting each 2-3k/month or so.
Which was completely doable, but they never got into proper business despite getting increasing amounts of money.
>>345076657
>he can't sue them for tracing
YES
HE ABSOULTELY CAN
>>345076268
I seriously don't understand how people are this dumb. Do they not remember the "oh so important" art changes that happened which set them back months? Or how about the dickwolf remodel which deleted a ton of completed scenes and basically all of the M/F monster scenes. Those are the art directors decisions, not the programmers.
It's obvious that Shwig saw this contract and proceeded to dick around for years making bank which drawing ideas for his own game. He's the reason we had jack shit after all these years and we're lucky to even get an animation update once a month. Just look at all the bullshit like the pinups and random fucking pictures that he wasted time drawing when he should have been making fucking Catgirl X Dickwolf
I'm not getting sound and I can't advance sex scenes manually, does anyone else have this problem in version 7.7.2?Not that the scenes are a real problem since there are no futanari scenes.
>>345076467
the circumference of vanilly's ravaged rectum
>nelson sarver's conflicted copy
who is nelson sarver?
>>345076467
Big dicks penetrating sexy Holstaurus girls? Going through the gallery of porn animations right now, a lot of these are really nice, but it's depressing just how few in all their are.
Needs moreloli and shotascenes.
>>345076657
>can't sue for tracing
You could get away with using relatively similar designs, but tracing would easily put you in lawsuit territory.
>>345076627
Schwing already has patreon up with hundred + donators, h-bomb was the "good guy whos just a shitty at making contracts" so he can move on as well with half of the companys money with him.
How does it realistically hurt them, they kept the con running for few years and now they moved on.
>>345076657
definitely can sue for tracing. a trace is a direct copy, it falls into really clear laws and you can't lose.
awesome
>>345076657
Tracing would be illegal. Taking a design and redrawing it in another style isn't tracing.
>>345076650
>you sure love to talk about a no-game that went nowhere and delivered nothing.
This. Honestly. Why in god's name do people care so fucking much?
>>345076703
Depends on the country desu, Schwig is in Israel if I'm not wrong, he'd need to sue them on the country where the project owner is.
Some countries don't give a fuck about tracing, so yeah depending on the country all he can do is get mad.
>>345076810
Like I said, trace most of the art, then add something distinguishing, maybe a new level of shading, maybe change slightly every character so they aren't identical, and ten yes the team would be able to get away with it.
>>345076651
>Japs make their games without needing to do a Patreon?
BS a shit, but Japan has an actual industry to support their endeavors. Patreon is pretty much all the west has.
That, and some Japs do seem to be jumping onto the patreon gravy train.
>>345076932
It's America, and tracing is indeed an illegal thing to do, so yes he very well can do that.
And you can sue across countries.
>>345076809
I'm sad we'll never get to see anything much with the NPCS.
I really liked them ;-;
>>345076095
As somebody who's worked on crashed indie products, I can tell you that artists are lazy as fuck.
For people that don't want to download 2GB , here are some exported SWFs of the animations. Happy fapping guys, I guess
https://mega.nz/#!L5ICGAAS!N2mbirv4Dxak7sYvp24I0NkObaag84rkdtt_j2W6OZE
Thanks to the anon who provided the mega in the last thread for the animations!
>>345076190
>Building a game takes years,
not at that level.with that money they made, the "game" could have been done in a year; prblem being they didn't know what they wanted to do. no protos, no game designs. They fell for "if I have enouh ideas it will magically glue itself together" that nodevs tends to believe from reading dev forums.
>>345077012
Kek you're delusional. They're just not scammers.
>>345076932
>Like I said, trace most of the art
Don't ever get into the game making scene please, you are a massive legal risk.
Jesus fuck what is wrong with you
>>345076932
>Like I said, trace most of the art, then add something distinguishing, maybe a new level of shading, maybe change slightly every character so they aren't identical, and ten yes the team would be able to get away with it.
Not only is that illegal, but it's an absolutely fucking shameful thing to do as an artist.
>>345077116
Japs are human too ya dingus
>>345077091
There's a reason "art degrees" are for failed people.
>>345076932
tracing is illegal in nearly every country that signed copyrighs laws, aka all the west. You'd really have to livin in the African forest to be safe.
>>345075746
is there a torrent of the game files? when i try to download it from mega it reaches the download quota limit at 51%
pls halp
>>345077097
>barely any male x male elf
my boner has never been so disappointed
>>345077195
Japan has a culture of sacrifice and the whole "honor" thing is stll real even if Americans hates it and mock it whenever they can. The risk is less importants with Japs, at worst they kill themselves, but don't give up.
>>345077195
Yeh but they prefer making money selling works than scam idiots.
>>345076932
>Like I said, trace most of the art
What about "You will get fucking sued for this" do you not understand?
>>345077332
Jap culture is different from west.
In US culture sphere putting adult content in games has been ridiculously hard and selling adult games is even harder. Patreon is the sole income from adult game devs in west.
>>345076739
Did Schiwng make that gif too?
>mfw no Marchoness x Male breeder
>>345077047
>sue across countries
The countries need to have a deal on that. If the team were on China Schwig wouldn't be able to do shit.
>>345077126
Seriously though, someone mentioned last thread that the finished art was Schwig property, HOWEVER the designs where the team's property. Tracing works because you'd just be training to get as similar as possible to the original versions WITHOUT being identical. I'm not saying "hey make this character on the same pose with the same colors...".
This only falls apart if Schwig has the right for the designs as well.
>>345077132
>shameful
Normally I'd agree, but on this case? Who fucking cares? some people don't deserve the talent they got. I feel no pity for whatever comes to happen with that fucker.
>>345077319
I know that feel too well anon, I've been waiting this whole time on the same thing.
>mfw no sound or music after three years of "work"
nobody here cared about this game at all but now its collapsing and failing you have continuous threads
this is you, /v/
this is what you are
>>345077549
>If the team were on China Schwig wouldn't be able to do shit.
Except it clearly isn't therefore your hypothetical can fuck itself and you in the ass.
And Israel is buddy-buddy with the US, not exactly a hard thing to do.
it was stupid to create so many variations which needed animating however it's clear from looking through the files that a huge amount of artist time was wasted creating irrelevant shit
>>345076658
Which is why I'm leery of Shwig's project ever coming out, because he's the one who added so many monsters in. Being that he's an artist, I doubt he even realized just how much more work he was adding with every monster, and how fast that rate was increasing.
And considering that he utterly failed to work with his animator last time, I doubt he's going to be able to do it this time. If he sticks to stills he might get it done. But then, this is a guy who cratered a 40k/month project which was paying him personally 9k/month, a sum that some engineers would be jealous of, let alone an artist. I doubt his ego would let him make anything less than his "vision".
This is why you keep artists on a tight leash. They do not know what they're doing. If they do know what they're doing, they'll understand why you're restricting them so much and they'll be able to handle it. The alternative is some spoiled college dropout ruining a potential million-dollar project because he thinks he can do better.
So why does Schiwg keep leaving projects and ruining them thus? Isn't this project making money?
>>345077616
game in alpha for 5 years, so "uhh wana talk about fapping to furry traps?"
Game crashes "oh wow fuck schwing"
>>345077616
Nah, it's just like huniepop. People rightfully shat all over that game while it was in development, but the moment it got released /v/ exposed themselves as the utter plebs they are.
>>345077549
>Normally I'd agree, but on this case? Who fucking cares?
The remnants of the dev team that doesn't want to be sued to hell and back.
>>345077762
It was never released, since it was never near finished.
>>345077549
>Tracing works
He is a literal jew, you will literally get sued and he will be completely in the right to do so for both moral and legal reasons. Changing colors a bit and drawing over it a little will not avoid it whatsoever, especially since he can easily pull up proof on how his stuff was the base.
You have zero concept of personal copyright whatsoever, just stop typing altogether tonight. Your idea was bad from the get go.
>>345077702
wait, shwig is responsible for genderbent/feral/loli too? what a clusterfuck
>>345077616
Schadenfreude, anonymous.
>>345077824
>Huniepop
>>345075746
>>345077549
>Tracing works because you'd just be training to get as similar as possible to the original versions WITHOUT being identical.
Not sure you know what tracing actually is.
>>345077549
why does it have to be the same style? that just makes it harder on the artist and what if the artist's style is better than the one you want them to emulate?
>>345075746
Just got up to speed on this and honestly have one question. Is HBomb a literal retard? Who the fuck thinks that allowing the artist to retain ownership of all the assets is a good idea?
This isn't even a "hindsight is 20 20" thing, the guy was literally begging to get scammed when he handed the artist that contract.
>>345077616
>People like drama
What else is new, faggot
>>345078087
Which is why its safer to assume it was mutual agreement to crash the project.
>>345077097
how much is left out?
>>345077319
they didn't even have 33% of their planned animation done, did they?
what a surprise the lead artist's ego had to destroy the entire project?
>>345078193
About 2 GB.
>>345078087
To be fair, this was before patreon became a thing and it was probably the only way to bring shwig on to the project.
>>345076868
>>345076346
Wasn't there an official version of this one the wiki? "animation tracker" or something.
Or did the wiki also get nucked?
>>345077097
WHERES ALL THE MALE BREEDER
>>345078193
>how much is left out?
I double checked to make sure i didn't forget anything but i probably forgot a few. Still, nothing to gawk at
I was really hoping these would be traditionally animated. You get that impression from looking at still images but it turns out they're just tweens.
>>345078221
>33%
I don't think they even had 1% of the animations done.
>>345075746
>Oversized boobs.
>very unnatural look to said boobs.
DELETE THIS.
>>345078376
Yeah, that's Margo's gimmick.
>>345078376
>homo
>>345078221
they don't even have the basic animations done let alone the futa/genderbent/feral/loli versions
they kept piling up more and more animations to do and never got anywhere actually doing them. they should have made a minimum version and finished that before extending the content to include extra monster traits which change their appearance
How much of a pervert are you /v/?
>>345078221
No, they didn't even have anything close to a third of animations. There was enormous amount of permutations, since all the animals could fuck each other. The scope of the project was enormous.
>>345077626
Finish reading my post then, I said clearly that the tracing is to be able to train to get the same style, which after a quick search you can see it CAN'T BE COPYRIGHTED. Only if the designs were also property of Schwig would he be able to do anything about it, but someone mentioned that's not the case.
The reason why disney can sue you if you for example make a tarzan comic is because they own the property of the whole design.
The reason for this confusion is because people who own the design normally also own the art.
>>345077825
Yeah I was reading about it, apparently you can't, on the US build on top of a drawing, that's still an infringement, but you can still do other things.
The greatest question is if that anon who mentioned that the designs were property og Hbomb was right.
>>345078429
Its just cancerous.
Makes me physically cringe on the sight.
>>345078481
>>345078506
The funny thing is, that those animations barely add anything to the actual game. You watch them once and after that they just become a nuisance. The rest of the game is an autistic grindfest as well. I seriously don't understand why this was even a thing.
>>345078481
Not enough to read moon. Give a translated version and I'll give you the reply you're looking for.
>>345078506
>would be a shame if I added yet another variation of already existing monsters and you have to make unique animations for it t.schwing
>>345075746
loving every laugh that comes out of this shit show
>>345078590
>liking NTR
>>345078529
>they own the property of the whole design.
Just like any artist, by default, own their whole work. You are mixing trademarks and copyrights like a beginner there. Copyrights are owned by default. trademarks have to be filled.
>>345078751
>not being so enlightened you can enjoy everything
>>345078751
Did I fucking stutter?
>>345078702
>patreon privated
>both sides gave their side
>they did FUCK ALL for months on end anyway
>nobody surprised
>raked in so much fucking money
>the new one that caused this shitshow visually looks more appealing anyway regardless if it was for the original
>people STILL throwing money at both
LIKE
POTTERY
>>345078481
>missing the good ones
shit bingo
>shwig believes he can save the project by doing the same project while adding more unnecessary shit like rpg battles
>>345078291
never done
>>345076657
>>345076703
he can sue, but he has low chance to win
can you imagine the lawyer and prosecutor must bring DA furry art as evidence and counter evidence? Shit gonna hit CBS, CNN, NBC, and everyone is branded as 'freak'.
to be honest i want him to sue, it will be hilarious
Man, looking over Schwig's ideas... he has no originality at all. Like all of his designs are direct copies.
>>345078887
>save the project
You mean "steal the project".
You know, in retrospect, I don't know why so many people put their faith in a game literally called BS.
>>345078914
>can you imagine the lawyer and prosecutor must bring DA furry art as evidence and counter evidence?
Yes.
You think he's gonna be too embarrassed to do it?
>>345078914
>Shit gonna hit CBS, CNN, NBC
lmao nobody cares about your degenerate porn game this much, you deluded autist
>>345078914
No, he doesn't have low chances to win. They're not in China, US copyright laws apply.
I expect his patreon to hit 1k by start of next week
people never learn
>>345078940
see
>>345077919
He's a disgusting viet/slavic jew would you expect such a vulgar and ugly creature to come up with anything original or decent?
>>345078914
>actually believing this kind of shit will get news time
Wow tortanic really fucked up /v/ you've got dramaseeking asshats like this popping out
>>345076739
a lot of people never heard about breeding season before this, these threads certainly blew up.
Also Schwig's damage control is surprisingly effective
personally:
>hear about BS roughly a year ago(or more, idk)
>check it out for a bit
>dick around with it for 20 minutes or so
>gameplay doesn't appeal to me at all(not a fan of management games like that)
>no lewd images/scenes so far
dropped it, not my cup of tea
was surprised to hear that you can fuck your creatures in these threads
>>345079031
>by start of next week
By the looks of things, try tomorrow.
These people are fucking nuts and insanely desperate.
>>345078481
got in english?
>>345079031
>saw it went to 20 to 50 into 500+ in a week
Fucking furries will never learn their lessons,I guess
>>345078764
>"In no case does copyright protection for an original work of authorship extend to any idea, procedure, process, system, method of operation, concept, principle, or discovery."
Right from the fucking source.
A drawing and a design are different things, if they cannot use work produced by Schwig, then they can't use the drawings he did, but he isn't entitled for the designs.
The way he uses colors, the type of pattern that he uses for anatomy, and so on can't be copyrighted.
That is OF COURSE if the designs aren't owned by Schwig. To know that we would need to know who came up with the ideas for those characters.
>>345079156
>in a week
It had less than ten patrons just yesterday.
>>345078940
These design's are totally original, if Shwig draws it he owns it :^)
>>345079069
/v/'s been old gossipping women forever now. Don't you remember gamegrumps and Jongate
>>345079031
honestly dude who cares
let them throw their money at him, we will pirate it like we did BS
>>345079227
Gossip girl /v/
>>345079229
>we will pirate it like we pirated this free game
You sure showed him, anon.
>>345079313
>free game
>that has its latest updates behind paywall
>and only exists from people giving them money
get a load of this retard
>try to breed the cat and wolf, the only 2 monsters you can buy when you start
>there's no animation
Missed the last few threads, is that retard who's saying it was the programmers fault that the game fell behind and that it was feature incomplete still around sprouting garbage? And do I need to explain why that shit is false and idiotic?
>>345079109
It's mostly the furries the nutsy ones.
I remember Redamz and ViperV posting on /vg/ and getting some attention but nothing major.
And then some guy comes with an 8 bit gay furry game and everyone goes batshit giving him dozens of replies every time he posts.
Quick /v/, Shchwiggo wants to hire you for his new game, how do you respond!?
>>345079490
>Gas him
EVERYONE DROP WHAT YOURE DOING AND RIDDLE ME THIS
WHO DO YOU THINK IS IN THE RIGHT
AND DO YOU EVEN CARE IN THE END
http://www.strawpoll.me/10751222
http://www.strawpoll.me/10751222
http://www.strawpoll.me/10751222
>>345079490
INSTEAD OF MAKING THE BASE GAME AND ADDING NEW MONSTERS WITH EXPANSIONS,LET'S HALF ASS THE PRODUCTION LINE
>>345079609
Schwig and S-Purp are the same person you moron
>>345076362
>japan is a good indicator of western society
lol
>>345079392
>that has its latest updates behind paywall
Substantial updates such as...
Less art and animations due to redraws?
The latest version straight up has less things in it than a couple versions back.
>and only exists from people giving them money
It existed on Legend of Krystal for free.
With more content than it had now.
>>345079609
What the fuck is this survey
>artist who has failed to deliver 3 times has ANOTHER patreon up
>he will recieve more than your monthly salary by the end of the month
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>345079609
>http://www.strawpoll.me/10751222
>doesn't even know the people in the shitstorm
SPURP AND SHWIG IS THE SAME FUCKING GUY. FUCKING RETARD
>>345079490
Sure. Give me half of your money and the rights to all of the art you've ever made.
>>345079745
sorry i dont know these e-celebs of yours
>>345079765
>>345079439
Those two are also insanely successful, so I'm not sure they really qualify as a counter example.
>>345079421
not shure, im still admant its shwig himself
. its just too lopsided and awkward, and hes the ony one who is actually implying s-purple did nothing wrong, while indirectly blaming everyone else and then saying hbox was the culprit with poor reasons, when we already know hbox is just a fool who put too much trust in others.
it reeks of the exact damage control shwig would need to be pulling at this stage of the game, and im not sure anyone even bought it either.
>>345079835
Then why did you bother making the survey
>>345079190
What exactly is the distinction between "design" and "drawing" in this context? How would one copy a "design", yet not copy a drawing at the same time?
>>345079835
Then why make a poll in the first place, fucking asshat
>>345079887
not sure
brain damage does some shit to you
>>345079609
Where's the I don't give a fuck about any of this or the garbage porn I'm just here because this entire situation amuses me option?
>>345079835
>makes strawpoll
>duhh who are these guys
>>345080007
Hey, the porn was pretty decent.
>>345079910
Ask Tim
>>345079881
>not shure, im still admant its shwig himself
. its just too lopsided and awkward, and hes the ony one who is actually implying s-purple did nothing wrong
Of course Schwig is going to imply that S-Purple did nothing wrong, they're the same fucking person, you tit.
>>345078481
English version?
>>345078376
>not liking cowtits
what is wrong with you
>>345079910
It's the difference between owning the right to the character or the derivative work.
Think about it this way someone has the right a said character concept. He hires someone to draw that character, that drawing is the derivative work. The derivative work's right is up to the contract between the employer and the employee but the design will always belong to the design creator.
If Schwig had the rights to the designs he could use them on the new work, he hasn't however, which implies that he only had the rights to the artwork he produced. Meaning any drawing, not made by him, not copying a drawing made by him, but on the same style and of the same characters can be used by Hbomb.
>>345080156
only grossly overweight post-preggo old women have cowtits
>>345076623
If they added incase, i would have to pull my shit seriously together to not donate a fortune through patreon.
Game was very poorly managed, Schwig is right to pull out
>>345080304
so what exactly did the bs patreons pay schwing to do?
>>345080261
>not liking preggo
what is wrong with you
>>345076623
there are goblin sort of things you get from inbreeding
I liked the game before they changed art back before it got a patreon. This sucks.
>>345078221
They actually had most animations done like a year ago, but Schwig convinced them to dumb them all, so he could make new ones.
>>345080295
Everything incase does is gay. Even when the "women" don't have giant dicks attached, they still look like men.
>>345080261
In real life maybe, 2D is a different story.
>>345080213
>on the same style and of the same characters can be used by Hbomb
But that's kind of absurd, isn't it? Owning only the assets themselves seems pretty pointless.
>>345080358
Art.
>>345080394
It's what he gets paid to draw, man.
>>345080304
>Game was very poorly managed
Because of shwig.
>>345080408
What art?
>>345080156
Your fetish is ridiculously cringy.
Its disgusting mainly because its a flesh sack stuffed with dozens of silicone.
Why do you even bother?
>cowtits
More like silicone.
>>345080071
This is a great example the guy with the rights to the concept on the left can sue buckley, but buckley couldn't sue anyone that made other characters on his "drawing" style.
Now let's say it's the opposite buckley created the character and commissioned an artist to do the drawing on the right. He however didn't pay attention to the contract, which explicitly said that the artwork couldn't be used for financial gain, and decided to use the artwork for those paying his patreon.
Then the guy could sue buckley for the incorrect use of the artwork, but he can't sue buckley for making another drawing in the same style on the right, and tying it to his patreon.
>>345080448
The art assets for the game.
>>345080434
Pretty sure that's just his style
>>345080091
????
he[the anon arguing in favor if schwig] is the only one defending schwig, therefore he is probably schwig
that's roughly what he was saying, and that's how you would say it.
>>345080394
thus he'd be perfect for male elves
>>345080091
im aware, just sentence forming habits
>>345080508
the game has no art assets made by schwing
>>345080473
Plus
>everyone who has a fetish for overly sized breasts is most likely underage
>or didn't realise how autistic it is when he was 16 and still makes drawings about it.
>>345079835
>>345079609
what the fuck
>>345080568
Are you just being willfully obtuse?
>>345080448
Every single visual asset in the game. His contract assured him that only his art would be put in the game and that the art would belong to him and not the both of them.
In short: The dev got jewed
>>345080531
I thought he was referring to Schwig defending Spurple and not some anon defending Schwig/Spurple.
>>345080473
Liking big tits isn't a fetish, not all big tits are fake, and saying stuff like this in front of most men would immediately brand you as a homosexual in their eyes with no recourse.
This is how fucked up you are, you actually think big tits is "cringy" or a fetish. That's how warped your perception is.
>>345077517
Every image posted in a Breeding Season thread belongs to shwig, due to the wording in his contract.
>>345080445
Proof?
>>345080407
That's all up to how the contract is written, and who came up with the ideas for those designs.
If the contract specifies "artwork" ownership then the designs are property of the employer. If the contract only says "work" than anything, from a character to a line of dialog that Schwig created and Hbomb decided to implement on the game can't be used anymore on BS.
In truth I think Schwig would be stupid to try to sue them, he will lose more money than he can gain and the publicity will screw him up even more.
>>345080680
Read the blog post.
>>345076014
Here it is directly from her blog
http://vanillycheesecake.tumblr.com/post/147388687000/regarding-breeding-season
>>345080641
>saying stuff like this in front of most men would immediately brand you as a homosexual in their eyes with no recourse
can attest to this
i remembering stating that i didn't care for jenna jameson back in high school and got shit for it
>>345080631
>>345080634
If the art isnt copyrighted to the company that makes the game, then schwing did absolutely zero contribution to the game.
I dont believe its legal contract, I mean you cant pay 190k for nothing. Its illegal.
>tfw live in China
>tfw drawfag
With a programmer I can remake the game using its original asset and nobody can sue me
>>345080795
So basically you were being willfully obtuse, ok cool thanks fag for the blowjob
>>345080823
Make sure to add in skeleton fucking to stop chinks from stealing your own shit too
>>345080473
>>345080587
>liking big tits is cringy
>silicone, silicone, silicone
liking big tits and a full figure is just human nature you dipshit
Do not reply to Shwig apologizers
>>345080725
That's not proof. That's a guy who hates Schwig blaming him for everything.
>>345080795
>If the art isnt copyrighted to the company that makes the game
That's the thing. The game isn't made by a company, it's made by (when the contract was made) two people. One of them claims the code, the other claims the art.
And yes, everyone agrees that the contract was ill thought on H-bomb's behalf and very jewish on S-Purple's.
>>345080823
my slant eyed nigga
>>345080587
>calls others autistic while autistically trying to rationalize that only a specific type of person has a fetish
What are the chances you're a fucking diaperfur, or a scat fetishist?
>>345080795
There's also that, they have to look on the validity of the contract, contracts can't break the law themselves so if the contract is deemed illegal then Schwig has zero right or claim to the assets.
Was Schwig considered an employee or a partner?
>>345079031
>patreon is opened at the same time Hbomb make statement
tinfoil me, but i am suspicious this is fabrication so they can prolong the patreon campaign
>>345080921
Read Vanilly's resignation.
So now that the game is officially ded, what ended up being the best sex scene?
Futa Marchioness on the Female Player Character is probably my favorite, but the Cowgirl-style Holstarus on dickwolf animation I just found in the gallery is also high-tier. Thanks to the anon from last thread who uploaded the converted .swf files.
>>345080889
>unironically liking venus of willendorf proportions
absolutely disgusting
>>345080934
You can have a company composed of only one person though.
Why can't Schwig just focus on his talents as an artist and stop trying so hard to make a goddamn game. He could easily ride the Patreon gravy train with his skills for drawing lewds and would never have to worry about working with an incompetent project manager or contracts ever again. After all, his art was the whole reason why so many people jumped on board once he joined the project.
>>345075746
>Cloud Meadows is at $600 already
I don't know how to feel. I get it, har har furbucks, but you gotta start feeling bad for people. This is like some weird combination of Stockholm Syndrome and NTR fetishing.
It's paying someone to fuck your wife and encouraging and endorsing her to cheat on you. Holy fuck, this is the monetary equivalent of Anthony Burch.
>>345081090
His art is mediocre though. No shading, and some decent anatomy, that's it.
The designs are generic enough that he can't even claim to be the creator of them.
>>345080989
You read it, never mentions Scwig, in fact all the things being pushed onto her seems to be by the lead developer, aka the guy blaming Schwig for everything.
>>345081061
I think it was catgirl on demon, but whichever one with the large monster picking up and rubbing the catgirl's vagina just back and forth on his huge dick.
Also whichever Holstarus animation had large insertion+anal.
I'm just really into large insertion.
>>345081084
But they didn't.
We're not talking about what you can do but what happened with Breeding Season.
>>345081090
>After all, his art was the whole reason why so many people jumped on board once he joined the project
The game was already absurdly popular on LoK despite how shitty it looked. It would've been successful regardless had HBomb hired any competent artist.
>and would never have to worry about working with an incompetent project manager or contracts ever again
And that was his fault.
>>345081193
They are both the leads.
>>345081061
I love the Marchioness
Fem elf x stallion is pretty good, shame there aren't more male elf anims
>>345081090
Yes, but this way he can make money while not actually doing anything. If he started an art Patreon, he wouldn't have anyone to blame for the lack of content.
>>345081061
Post the gif, you know the one.
>>345080756
As an artist myself I'm terrified of this happening to myself at some point.
>>345081159
I just accept that furries gonna fur. I spend more than I probably should on porn comms every month, so I KIND of get it, I guess. But I really don't understand the point of doing something like this through patreon. I could kind of get it if it was like a kickstarter thing where you are crowdfunding, but that isn't really how this seems to work. Its just giving them X money every month because reasons.
>>345081193
Shwig was the lead. He owned half the project. Nearly all the work Vanilly was doing was supposed to be done by Shwig. It's also clear from the amount of junk art that served no purpose and Shwig dropping contact and going behind everyone's back to make another game that she was at the very least referring to him when she talked about people not showing up or doing any work.
>>345081229
That's kinda interesting though, the laws for contracts between company and employee and a single person and an artist are very different. I fucking wish I could put my hands on the contract to read it myself.
>>345081318
>As an artist myself
Way to make yourself look pretentious, especially in this context.
>give animator HALF of the profit/month and let him keep the rights to his art
>suprised when you're fucked in the ass
Can't make this shit up
Has Purple posted a response to this whole thing yet? I haven't really been keeping up with the latest happenings.
>>345081318
Don't worry, you'll be spared such cruel destiny and will end up just never being hired by anyone.
>>345081415
he made his own patreon for a clone he was clearly working on while sucking up the BS dosh
Was BroQuest actually a thing, or just a CYOA type image posted here? And is the Breeding Season guy the BroQuest guy?
The amount of money people keep shoveling into Patreons for porn games that go nowhere is staggering
>>345081412
>People in this world who don't know about jewish tricks
Unfortunately they learn the hard way.
>>345080304
nice try schwig
>>345081298
Imgur link to be safe, my dick had pretty much the same reaction when I first saw this.
http://imgur.com/Rjs3ZXK
>>345080634
>only his art would be put in the game
where are you pulling that from? they had several artists
>>345081548
Okay, that's one thing. But here's the other:
>the animator/artist/whatever you pay in the ballpark of 15k/month just doesn't show for a good while
>doesn't even pursue where he might be
How?!
>>345080394
this, i don't like his style either
So is it Schwig or Shwig?
>>345081614
Right. I said wrong.
>All art in the game needed his approval to get in
Is more correct.
>>345081601
Oh yeah, that's good.
While I hate Schwig for killing BS the new project has a chance of being an actually fun game instead of just boring stat management so I guess I'll keep an eye on it.
