Ok memelords. I'm in the market for a new GPU. I currently have an AMD Radeon HD 7970, and the two cards I was considering were the GTX 1070 and the RX 480. I play on a 1080p 60Hz setup with two monitors currently, but I might upgrade to 1440p in a year or so depending on how prices go. Which is the better buy for my needs?
I was pretty much sold on Nvidia but then I heard about how good the new Doom runs on the RX 480 with Vulkan. Are a lot of new games now going to run better on AMD cause of that?
>>345059430
I am in the exact fucking same boat as you GPU wise, except that I am in need to power a 3440x1440 ultrawide and that my 7970 is not with my anymore.
I tried Vulkan on the 7970, and I got 55-60fps on high settings, so am really starting to wonder if I should opt for the RX 480. Currently only Talos, Ashes of Singularity and Doom support Vulkan.
>>345059808
Yeah, I play Total War Warhammer a lot and since it's optimized for AMD I wonder how it'd run. I have a $100 Amazon gift card so I could get a RX 480 for cheap.
Just wait until a 980ti goes on sale
>>345059430
Get a 1070
>>345060063
>980 ti
You know damn fucking well that R9 Fury actually trumped that thing in Vulkan with the enormous gains that asyc compute yields. The only Pascal card that seems to benefit here is GTX 1080.
I don't actually have a problem with considering the 1080 per se, but future proofing is just nonsense, not after seeing how 980ti fares in Doom come Vulkan.
>>345060539
>You know damn fucking well that R9 Fury actually trumped that thing in Vulkan
No games use vulkan yet. The only game that does is BF4 and another one that is totally irrelevant. Theres no reason using some fucking AMD API when others exist that perform better
Don't buy AMD ever. Their stuff has improved, but it's still shit. There's a very good reason they're behind NVIDIA in market share by a massive amount.
>>345060756
>>345060214
Yeah I can basically get into a 1070 for about $320 thanks to my $100 amazon card. Who makes the best aftermarket models? I was thinking Gigabyte or MSI.
>>345059430
>I play on a 1080p 60Hz setup
The 480 would be more than enough for you. 1070 would be overkill and it's not like your monitor can handle more than 1080p 60Hz anyway, so it's just wasted power.
>>345060840
>Yeah I can basically get into a 1070 for about $320 thanks to my $100 amazon card.
Or you can get a 480 for $100 thanks to your $100 amazon card. Save you like 200 bucks to buy vidya or food.
>>345061043
He is powering 2x 1080p displays. I have similar concern as that guy cause I need to power an ultrawide.
>>345060840
Both Gigabyte and MSI are pretty decent. I wouldn't consider XFX.
>>345060840
Don't think it really matters. You just need to look into the aftermarket coolers reviews, as in both their effectiveness and noise. Also the look if that's important to you.
Both are good though. Gigabyte, MSI, Asus, EVGA and Zotac are all good brands.
>>345059430
Wait for 1060 benchmarks
>>345059430
>tfw in same situation
>have 7850 2gb
>annoyingly get bad fps in Witcher 3 and a few other games
>don't really mind medium settings
>but don't want to be getting an overkill card
>might as well get a 1440p monitor if I get a 480 or 1060
>end up spending $400+ just to do that
Is 1440p a meme?
>>345061370
>a meme
no. Not a meme at all. I have been playing 1440p since 2012, when I was using a Dell 30" 2560x1600 display.
>>345061370
OP here. It supposedly makes a difference but I personally feel that it's a meme. It's probably better just to get a 144Hz 1080p monitor imo. Once 4K monitors are cheaper I'm sure 1440p will be worth getting into.
>>345061575
You are talking very narrowly at using a 144Hz display which is only ever meant for nearfield FPS gaming. I can't recommend something like this if you actually have to do any general productivity with your display.
1440p is better for all-around general computing purposes.
>>345061764
How much is a decent 1440p monitor, and can I get a good one that's no more than 24" long?
Vulkan is exciting, but unfortunately it'll be only on a handful of games at any given time. I'd rather get a GPU that performs decently on DX12 or DX11 since that's what you'll likely be playing on for the majority the next few years.
>>345062312
So you'd say that's the 1070?
I have no idea, I'm not looking for a GPU at this time since I was gifted a 970, returned the 480 I bought.
Do your own research and get what you think is best.
>>345061248
>He is powering 2x 1080p displays.
I do the same at work with a 380. I'm sure a 480 won't have any problems.
>>345062102
>24"
none that I can think of. 27" is the norm in this department. Cheapest is $390 and 144hz only works over Displayport with that one.
ROG Swift and the Acer Predator are the two most notable. Those are $700 displays. Actually cheaper than my 30" Dell 6 years ago.
>>345061370
Why bother with 1440p when 4k exists?
>>345062827
>27" is the norm in this department.
That's pretty weak. My 4k deal is 24", display manufacturers need to get on the HIDPI bandwagon and stop trying to push stupid shit like that. Even more ridiculous than 27" 1080p displays.
>>345062753
What refresh rate are you managing with the 380? 380 didn't really do much better than the 280x, and I have before that I only managed to hit 55-60fps on 3440x1440 at high (not ultra, no AA) with Vulkan in Doom.
>>345062853
4K is a meme. It doesn't give you extra screen real estate because you need to scale stuff up, but you do get a lot more sharpness and detail, since it's 4x1080p, but the effective usable space is around the same as 1080p. Not to mention it's also hard to drive if you're considering 60FPS, unless you're playing Counter Strike 1.6 or whatever, and higher refresh rates are not an option.
If you can afford it get the 1070, if you want to save money get the 480
The 480 performance in Doom on Vulkan is still less than the 1070 in DX11. the only reason for a 480 is building the best bang-for-buck PC
>>345063163
It's pointless to advertise a 120 or 144Hz 4k display right now when a single GTX 1080 has no hope of even delivering solid 60fps on its own.
>>345063359
You can play games in 1080 120 and then browse the Internet and watch porn in 4k
>>345063350
I am starting to wonder if AMD is actually delaying the 480x and 490 for Vega. I would rather go for the 480x if that choice was available.
>>345063163
For general work, programming, etc 4k with a high PPI is great. It's something you honestly can't go back from, everything else just looks awful afterwards.
For playing games, you're right. I can't wait for the day I can play with my 4k deal though, even some games like Dirty Bomb with a low fps config still looked amazingly sharp.
>>345063163
>4K is a meme.
They said the same thing about 1440p back then.
>tfw I have a 7870xt and I can still play games like Witcher 3 and Arkham Knight 1080p60 without playing on shit/medium settings
I don't see the reason to upgrade until games have a major graphical shift in quality. Right now it's just very stagnant, similar to the x360/ps3 generation.
>>345059430
You do multimonitor, so go with the 1070. It has software upgrades over the 900 series specifically tailored to render multiple screens in one pass, and is going to do 1440p easily. If you have the money, there's little reason to go for the midrange card.
>>345063359
Not to mention the fact that the possibility to do 4K @ 120Hz is very recent with DisplayPort 1.4, so even if you do manage to run a game at 4K with high framerates, you still need a monitor and GPU with the new DP specification.
>>345064026
Can't tell if you're baiting or not. I had a 7950 and could barely get some settings on high, mostly medium. 2x7850s was worse though similar, a single 7850 was awful.
Since there's a topic going in, in building a pc myself and eyeing the 1070 with lust.
My concern is though is that it's overkill right now which is just 60fps 1080p gaming bit I do want to invest in a 4k monitor in the future.
What do?
>>345059430
i recently upgraded from a strix 970 to a gigabyte g1 1070. it's only worth it if you have a 144hz monitor like me or you want to play 1440p.
note: the g1 1070 only has 1 dvi connector on it. also my strix 970 was bigger than my 1070.
>>345064212
If you're planning on 4k wait a couple years, there's nothing that reliably can handle that.
Just bought an open box aftermarket r9 290x for $103 if you factor in the rebate.
Is this a good grab? It's my first gpu for my first pc that hasn't had a gpu for 2 weeks because FUCK THE 480 STOCK.
Just want to play some like 1080p gaming.
>>345064167
On AK the only setting I had to keep at low was the texture quality due to vram caps, other than that I can play Witcher 3 at high, AA and SSAO enabled. Maybe you weren't playing when the crimson drivers released? They really helped performance issues.
>>345064315
>>345064212
I would opt for the 480 and save your dosh for what's to come in the future. 480 should be an easy sell and you should retain $100 residual value when you do move to a card that can properly drive a 4k display on its own.
>>345064452
Wow. You got yourself a good deal. It is more than adequate for 1080p.
>>345060629
R9 Fury X is directly competitive with the GTX1080 in Doom running Vulkan
>>345064618
Cool thanks. I thought the pricing was off because I googled the gpu, and the pricing was like around $250-300 or just not available because not in stock.
The fans on it are a bit dusty though. Need to buy some canned air later this week. Thank god for microcenter.
Man I have an i5 2500k with a gtx 560 ti and I don't know if I should upgrade or just buy a new system. Things that are making me want to build a new one from scratch:
>System is 5 years old so it might be prone to failure.
>Cpu cooler fan died (hyper 212)
>Gpu fans died
>Only 1 memory module works (4gb ram)
My pc is JUST hanging on with an external fan but I feel like the i5 2500k is too good to upgrade. Also I was looking at building an itx or matx system like on a define nano.
So for me it's either:
a) Buy 480 a cpu cooler and some ram and stick it out.
b)replace entire system
>>345064512
>On AK the only setting I had to keep at low was the texture quality due to vram caps, other than that I can play Witcher 3 at high, AA and SSAO enabled.
I really really really really really doubt that. I had most settings at medium except for textures at high since I could reliably get around 60fps. I did had the new drivers at the time. Either you're playing at 1366x768 or are flat out lying, leaning towards the latter since I had a 7850 and it did not push Witcher 3 at high in any way.
>>345059430
The 480 literally had to be throttled to stop it from frying motherboards. That and the 1070 is just a plain better card should answer your question.
>>345064823
Not many games use Vulkan. That guy is being a total idiot by suggesting that no game use Vulkan.
The performance gain in Doom is highly promising, but we don't know if this will extend to other titles that will use Vulkan, or if Vulkan will be adopted at large right now.
I'm seeing R9 390Xs for $300. With $100 off you are looking at a pretty damn good deal
>>345064983
1070 is almost twice the price and the saphire 480 doesn't have that problem.
>>345064935
You have very little reason to upgrade your CPU if you aren't doing 1080p 144Hz with the 2500k, especially if you can manage 4.5GHz+ on air with your chip.
>>345061182
>getting mobo killer
>ever
Fucking kek.
>>345065041
The gains over OpenGl are massive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCHmV3c7H1Q
>>345064983
>>345065059
I will buy an aftermarket custom 480 with 8 pin connector, which solves that problem for good.
>>345065059
OP did not list price as a consideration. 1070 is still a significantly better card.
>>345064983
>frying motherboards.
nice meme
>>345059430
Doom will run worse than it has on 480s since AMD has to cap their watt usage with drivers making it literally impossible to OC the card.
It's garbage.
>>345060063
>this ever happening
nope, those cards will sit at that price forever because people will still buy it for some reason
RX480 frame rate improvement in Vulkan are even larger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXijkS_qIzA
>finally got a new gpu
>have no dvi or hdmi cables
Thank god for amazon prime one day delivery though. Got two 6 feet HDMI cables for like 6.99.
>>345063163
I bought a 4k display and the there's a ton more screenspace for work even at 150% scaling. For smaller games I can run them at 4k just fine, then for AAA shit like Witcher 3 I play at 1440p and it still looks great.
>>345065314
>OP did not list price as a consideration.
Why the fuck would anyone ask if price is not a consideration, are you really this fucking dumb?
You know what's better than the 1070? THE 1080. DON'T GET THE 1070 OP GET THE 1080 BECAUSE IT'S BETTER.
AMD is for multimedia and bitcoin, not gaming.
>>345065331
I won't say anything mean to you. I can't imagine how hard it is living in a poor, disease ridden place like India.
>>345065254
I seriously question if 1060 will benefit form Vulkan if 1070 doesn't at all. Only 1080 sees performance increase here.
If that's the case, then 480 may be preferable to the 1060, while 1070 remains attractive for 1440p overall.
Fury X is the most shocking to me. If Vulkan does take hold and this trend continues for other titles that use Vulkan, then I may have to wait till Vega cards come out.
>>345065461
Nah the 1080 isn't worth the price jump while the 1070 is. He put 1440 as maybe not an absolute, and he's watching the prices on monitors. The money he saves on the 1070 vs 1080 would go well towards a new monitor.
>>345059430
The next Civ game uses vlkan too, as all the upcoming games
>>345065461
>answering that in cap
Not really. 1080 is rather awkward if you don't need 144Hz 1440p, and we all know that future proofing is a joke.
>>345065475
That has kept the price on 280x so high for so long. Hell, the 280x today is still $100 a piece, and those bitcoin miners are only dumping them due to power inefficiencies and 1/2 bitcoin yield forcing their hands.
>>345065239
Get a Sapphire and stop memeing, you fucking mouth breather
>>345065916
>buying AMD ever
>>345065239
>MOBO killer
Wait a minute, you mean AMD is so great it does not only kills the enemy GPU's but also kills unworthy MOBO's?
Damn, that's strong
Should I just get another one of these or something else? I don't want my desktop to suck
>>345064948
7850 is definitely not in the same ballpark as a 7870, let alone a 7870XT. It's not a surprise it struggled with post processing effect added on to high settings. Did you delete the clothing physx effect at the time?
>>345065962
>ever
You'd are definitely underaged if you are too young to remember T-bird, the Athlon XPs on the CPU side.
Radeon 9700 pro and the GCN HD 7970 were untouchable when they came out.
You are just hopeless if you are too naive to realize that brand loyalty's shit and that there was a time when AMD did deliver the goods.
>>345066653
I owned AMD CPUs and GPUs for my entire life, and switched to NVIDIA on the 900 series. Never going back.
>>345065962
>>345066653
To be fair, I wouldn't buy an AMD CPU today, and AMD simply couldn't compete against Maxwell/Polaris.
On the topic of compooter hardware, I was thinking of getting and aftermarket CPU cooler and start OCing.
Can anybody vouch for the Kraken X61?
>tfw price on 970 didn't drop yet
I'm actually thinking on buying 960 or even 950. My fx6100 will botlleneck 970 anyway.
>>345066873
Not really. Your cpu may be the better choice for async compute cards.
Don't buy any 970 at $250 right now. If it's 200 and below, then you can consider.
>>345065605
The GTX 1060 will have an advantage over the RX 480 due to the high clock speeds. That's all it has going for it though. Memory is supposed to be similar in speed but with far less bandwidth. It may be okay in 1080P but it will bottleneck at higher resolutions.
The RX480 is a better GPU than the GTX1060. The GTX1060's strengths will go very far in most games though since it benefits from games optimized for low end systems
The Fury X is still a monster and its successor will be more powerful and better supported by software. The R9 Nano in my opinion is still the best GPU.
>>345066862
Unless you are going for a custom water loop, that type of cpu cooler isn't that much different from air cooling like how the Corsair H60 is literally no different on temperatures compared to the Evo 212.
>>345066862
What the fuck are you going to be doing with a radiator in a computer?
>>345066862
Whats the point of these things? They are more prone to failure and physical damage, and can destroy your entire PC if they leak
NH-D14 is still the best CPU cooler ever made
I just bought these, how badly did I do?
For refference, my current CPU is an AMD Athlon X4 760K.
Thinking of getting a 1060 when they come out as an upgrade to my 750ti too.
>>345067661
At those prices?
You will see a large increase in performance in a few multi threading friendly titles
>>345067349
>>345067506
I'm not sure I want to go with big air. Too cumbersome and not very pretty. Also I have high profile RAM, so I'm not sure if it'll even fit. I don't mind shelling out a bit more money anyway.
>>345067661
Just get the 480 and bet on Async compute instead given what you've got here.
>>345067661
>amd processor
its already a failure
RMA'ed my rx 480
Thank god it was defective.
AMD never again.
>>345067661
Why the fuck did you buy that cpu lmao. You would have done better with a cheap motherboard and any current gen intel cpu for the same price.
>>345059430
rx480 sapphire nitro nigga
>>345067965
I would've gotten a used 2600k and pair that up with a 2ndhand mobo instead if I was in his shoes.
>>345067661
>AMD
You messed up big time.
>>345067858
That the beauty of the NH-D14. It can depend on how close your memory is to your processor but on my old AM3 board all I need to fit the largest high profile ram is to just move the smaller 120mm fan up which the NH-D14 lets you do. I have no problem fitting any ram heatsinks in my PC. The NH-D14's 140mm fan in its center also drops your motherboard and ram temps
>>345067937
>>345068190
What's wrong with AMD?
>>345068892
Their cpus are complete garbage now unless you are below the $100 price range.
>>345068651
I don't doubt that, but it's massive. The specs on Newegg say it weights nearly 3 pounds.
Call me vain, but I like the look of a waterblock more than a bigass heatsink.
>>345059430
Get the fuck out of /v/ and go to proper tech forums.
>>345069201
>>345067790
>>345067937
>>345067965
What should I buy instead then? I can still cancel the order. I fucked up my last CPU + MB purchase and now I'm kinda paranoid. PLEASE send help.
>Have a 7950
>Want to upgrade to something
>Realize there's no games I really care enough about to upgrade
>Want to upgrade anyway
Currently looking at the 480 once aftermarket hits, but I might wait to see if the 480x or 490 fares.
>>345069753
i5-6500 + a cheap good h170 board
>>345059430
You're comparing 500$ card and a 230$ card obviously 500$ is better but if you're at 1080p it doesn't make that much difference so i'd go with the cheaper one.
>>345069753
Whatever the non K version of the 6700 Skylake is, I think it's the 6600, DDR4 3200 or above
As for GPU it's personal preference.
>>345069879
or a i5-4590 + h97 board. if you aren't going ddr4.
1060 is looking pretty good, although if the 480 comes very close in DX12 I'd pick that up.
Who #1070 here?
>>345071924
About to. Wondering if it's overkil for me, but the temptation of finally having a high end PC is getting the best of me.
>>345072361
I play in 1080p/60.
Still not overkill. There are few games that start actually pushing the card, and one that it can't even run at 50fps.
The only true overkill for 1080p is a 1080.
>>345072907
What games?
>>345072907
That's a relief since my setup is also going to be 1080/60, though I'm in for the long haul with this next upgrade.
I just hope I can take full advantage of it using an older I7 because I really don't want to change my motherboard now, and she's also quite some years old.
>>345073327
Witcher 3, Tomb Raider, ARMA. You know, the prettier AAA stuff.
And only the 1080 can run Asscreed Syndicate with everything turned up. On a 1070, you're lucky to hit 45fps in the city with those fucking shadows turned on.
>>345073441
How old senpai.
A 920 needs replacing.
A 2600k will last for at least a year, especially with a good overclock.
A 3770k will be fine for a while.
A 4790k is literally the best CPU for gaming and should not be replaced/
>>345069753
Go for a third, second, or first gen 6 core i7. There isn't any point in buying the quad core CPUs going forward.
The i7 970 can be found for around $100 if you search hard enough.
I'm not sure if Xeons are properly supported by games but there are great 6 core hyperthreaded models going for less than the price of the i5 across the web
>>345073516
Witcher 3? I thought that the 1070 ran that at more than 60 based on digital foundry videos. Are you using shillworks or something like that?
>i7-4770k
>GTX 770 2GB
>tfw feels like every game lately is a struggle to hit 60fps
>but oddly it doesn't matter what settings I put games at, the frame rate is always struggling for 60
I wish I understood. How can ultra and low produce similar frame rates?
>>345073794
Digital foundry benchmarks are usually a bit higher than everyone elses.
And of course it runs at more than 60fps. All the games I listed do.
But they certainly use most of the card to get there.
With my older i5, I pull about 70-80 in most of the game, with drops to 60s in Novigrad. Plus some fucking awful frame time problems. This is on 1080/ultra with no hairworks. Hairworks takes about 10 off the top.
>>345073939
Usually, that indicates a true bottleneck. Which you shouldn't have.
>>345074041
I only noticed the framerate issue since I updated to Windows 10 last month. Should I do a clean install, or go back to win 7?
>>345074178
I'd do drivers before windows itself.
Do you run any sort of benchmarks? Have they changed? Have you noticed an actual big decrease in performance in any games you previously ran fine?
>>345073620
3770.
I was told just that; it will be just fine for the near future.
>>345074264
I've updated all my drivers due to having to once I updated.
As for performance, I was running Doom at 60-70 ultra, but now I only get 60 during calm moments indoors, rest of the time it's hovering around 40 no matter what settings I change. Ultra low, or max high gives me the same results.
Never tried ultra low on Windows 7 because highest settings just worked.
>>345074456
Was that a clean driver install, or just an update?
Maybe check your power settings. Switching to 10 might have fucked them up. Especially with Nvidia, because the default adaptive settings is just broken.
I'm honestly surprised you ran Doom so well in the first place.
Your card usually benchmarks around 40-45 in 1080/Ultra on Doom.
WHAT'S THE BEST 1070 OUT RIGHT NOW
WHICH BRANDS THE MOST RELIABLE, AND WHICH ONES GOT THE BIGGEST OVERCLOCK
HELP
>>345066653
>there was a time when AMD did deliver the goods
>therefore I should buy AMD now
LMAO
>>345074689
I honestly don't know. I think this PC has been running on magical pixie dust for a while. Like normally I have to wait several minutes for my devices and printers window to finish scanning stuff so I can modify controller settings, but just now it popped up instantly.
Windows 10 is confusing because there is like 2 settings windows for everything.
>>345074752
>ONES GOT THE BIGGEST OVERCLOCK
Pretty much all 1070s overclock the same. Any differences in stock speeds can be changed in afterburner.
Just buy the cheapest EVGA card. The customer service and warranty is unparalleled and if you find more money in the next 3 months, you can step up to a 1080.
>>345074752
None since they're all sold out.
>>345074752
I can vouch for the EVGA 1070 SC, the fans don't actually turn on until it hits 60 degrees, so when its idle it makes no noise at all. I haven't overclocked it yet, but I max all my games out at 60 fps and 1440p easily.
>>345075159
not anymore buddy
>>345075303
$380 my ass
>>345065050
This is what I went for in the end.
8gb Asus Strix R9 390x for £260 brand new. £10 more than a non-reference RX 480 and in most games it's a few FPS quicker.
(Does take more power, but I have a 750w power supply, so I have more than enough power to handle it)
>>345075182
Still recommend you set an earlier fan curve.
The 1070 has a weird boost function. As long as it stays under around 65-68, the card will clock way higher than stated boost clocks. I have a FE and it runs at 1900mhz on boost out of the box as long as it stays in temp.
>>345075372
Blame AMD for not providing enough competition in any of it's markets.
Completely responsible for the retarded prices Nvidia and Intel are getting away with.
>>345075375
Its by far the best GPU for the money. Its almost on par with the GTX1070 and GTX980Ti under DX12 and Vulkan despite lower clocks all around.
>>345075398
What do you mean? Set a custom fan curve so it always stays at 65-68?
>>345075624
Or just set one that turns on before 60?
Being a Canadian is suffering
>>345059808
>>345059430
Definitely go for the 480, check out the performance of Vulkan games, it's ridiculous, that and Dx12 and at a really good price
>>345061370
>Is 1440p a meme?
Nah. 4k is a meme at the moment and will be for a few more years.
>>345075182
i'm still considering it, but i'm almost sold on the strix.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/NewProduct.aspx?Item=N82E16814126109&ignorebbr=1&RandomID=7758873167557720160715003427
my thing is, there's an 8 pin hook up on the SC, and then an 8+8 pin on the FTW, but ONLY a 6pin hook up on the strix. does this matter at all? as far as i remember the pin hookup is just for the fan array.
Why is AMD so hated on /v/
>>345075476
Not Nvidia paper launching it with no stock and making the industry biased towards effect complexity (they create the code and the effects) which are made for target shader frequencies.
I hope you realize Nvidia has been the one in control of this show for 2 decades and all ATI and AMD can do is try to react.
Both companies have to design their products differently or else violate different contracts with numerous companies and create a monopoly.
AMD's architecture was adopted by Nvidia because AMD won all of the console contracts around 2010. They have since modified it to run at higher frequencies and contractually block AMD to optimize for their proprietary code
Nvidia can make a faster product but can't produce GPUs as cheap as AMD because of their design. They have to win through pure speed.
Unfortunately now AMD has control of hardware features of the console ports and can beat Nvidia without running as fast
In reality AMD is actually winning because more code is being made compatible for their architecture than ever before. They are losing on the PC platform because the coding methodology has taken for longer to adopt. Game code has been biased on PC for Nvidia for a long time and they greatly influenced DX 10 and DX11. Under DX 12 AMD has to do almost no work to compete directly with Nvidia who has a far larger staff of coders.
>>345076075
AMD processors are bad, until Zen comes out and they may have huge IPC improvements
AMD GPU's are good, but if you can afford them, the 1070 and 1080 blow them the fuck out, as the 480 is a budget card that punches really well above its weight, whereas the 1070 and 1080 are high range cards that perform as such
>>345076075
By actual people they aren't. The shills are paid to post hate and 1 shill will post 10 times the content of actual v posters
Its all about the shekels mate. You need to listen to pol more. The red pill will open your eyes
>>345076876
>until Zen comes out
Zen will not be some magic bullet.
There are defensible positions on each side of the GPU discussion.
But Intel is an all consuming monster at this point. And even they aren't seeing many benefits from generational changes, except in power and packaging.
Zen will be another Bulldozer.
>>345076876
Excavator offers greater than 35% multi threaded IPC performance. Unfortunately it doesn't help their poor single thread IPC much.
AMD could have released newer better FX processors but it makes a lot more sense for them to just go all out through Zen. The market said no to bulldozer and it would only put the company further in danger to keep improving the architecture
>>345076075
Poo in the loo tech. If India can't even build toilets, what makes them think I should trust them with graphic cards.
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>>345076015
Pulled the trigger on the SC after considering my options. clock speeds aren't that much different, and EVGA has been really good to me for over 10 years. I'll stick with em.
>>345062102
korean monitors
>>345073939
I have the 4770k do you overclock it? You can VERY safely push it to 4.2 and and 4.6 or higher if you know what you're doing. Maybe the 2 vram is what's beating you up. I went from 760 -> 970 -> 1070 and they all felt like good improvements for the price.
>>345078313
The GTX1070 is more than $400. I don't understand why people think that's appropriate for what is going to be below mid tier in 1 year. You aren't even above a Fury X is some games and the potential of it is completely tapped
