LAST TIME
>Kelik was talked down to by multiple people
>anakin got named as a noble
>we finally saved siggy
>the gains goblin was fully manifested
>>344332930
>>344455728
>>344574974
>>344685354
>>344798823
>>344829005
>>344923214
game over/mandatory reset counter: 8
currently dead: Eduardo, Tekun
>what's going on?
I'm playing (partially blindly) through one of the most famous hacks of Fire Emblem 7--The Last Promise.
While I do, I'll be taking inputs from you on various things, and sharing notable differences and things added to the hack(for all the shit it has, there's a LOT of good in it too)
>>345025386
FAQs:
>what's this hack called?
"The Last Promise"
>where can I download it?
/feg/ has a pastebin of ROMhacks in their OP.
>is this the one with the hilariously edgy MC?
yes.
>I'm new to Fire Emblem. What's a good game to start with?
Fire emblem: The Blazing sword(aka Fire Emblem in the USA) is a fantastic starting point, featuring a comprehensive tutorial. Alternatively, Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones also has a briefer tutorial and is all around easier.
>I heard this series is just shitty waifu pandering
that's Awakening and Fates.
>what does each stat do?
HP-health. lose it all and your unit dies(permanently)
STR/MAG- how much damage you do with attacks. this is augmented by your enemy's defenses and your own weapon's MT
SKL- your chance to hit and dodge attacks
SPD- if your SPD is high enough, you'll be able to double-attack enemies.
LUK-affects accuracy and avoidability
DEF-affects defense against physical attacks
RES-affects defense against magical attacks
CON- unit's weight. this affects who they can rescue or be rescued by, and if your CON is too low, you will suffer SPD penalties while using heavier weapons.
>Why are you so shitty?
I'm impatient
>Is this the one with the self-insert that gets NTR'd?
no, that's MK404
even NPCs don't want to deal with Kelik.
>Cid
again with this shit?
jesus christ, how is anyone supposed to take this seriously?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4mv1pavzlY
>>345026009
You just cant understand the deep narrative flow, OP
so who is getting this?
>>345026297
C I A
>>345026297
cant remember who actually needs it, was the peg close to capping str?
Shit nigger, since you're so early let me tell you this
I read your threads the morning after since different timezones and shit. People like your stuff, just because I'm not commenting doesn't mean I don't look forward to reading this.
In case you needed motivation.
[/homo]
>>345026727
CAP STRENGTH
>>345026727
hm. Would just hold onto it for now, see if someone hits near cap and could use it to cap
posting all my current stats, gimme a sec
alright, here's the current party. we using the energy ring?
>>345027215
C I A
I
A
>>345027215
CIA will probably cap mag anyway
give it to Rex
>>345027215
use on kevin if he gets no STR next level somehow, else save imo
>>345027215
Halberdiers or SHON
>>345027427
>>345027452
alright, for now I'll hold onto it.
how about this?
>>345025386
Why is a literal ripoff of silver will playing in the final fight of this hack
>>345027676
Rex
>>345027215
>one of the characters has a beard
Holy shit I can't believe it.
>>345027749
why?
he got 4 levels in a row of garbage last night.
>>345027859
I want a halberdier tho
>>345027927
ace is still around.
>>345027676
honestly same deal, except luk is a mostly trash stat. Anyone who actually has a good luk growth seems to be looking fine on that front, rest seem too low to matter
>>345027839
Zach has a bit of a neckbeard going on
>>345028013
Ace hasn't exactly had a stellar performance either desu
>>345028129
ace: 5 levels, 2 bad ones
rex: 5 levels, 4 bad ones
>>345028313
But he also had 1 level that was better than anything Ace has ever gotten. I have faith in him.
>>345028313
just do what anon said last time, take both to 20, see which one anna smiled upon then. Both are 2 good level ups away from being good
>>345028528
>>345028528
what this anon said then make them fight to the death in link arena or whatever it is called
>>345028860
I like this idea
Gladiatorial combat is the best way to solve problems
It took me a while to realize the character portraits are just real characters with slight differences...
>>345028528
just a comparison for the record.
>>345025386
>Nothing in the subject field
Goddammit, Nigger.
alright, any party changes before we start?
>>345029173
that's not uncommon with romhacks. sprite art is hard, as is making portraits that will fit with the hardware limitations.
>>345029608
Nah
looks good
>>345029608
seems set to me
oh boy, fat downs-ey ike is joining our party!
>>345029349
yeah, sorry, I dropped the ball.
>>345029812
Let's try and stop him.
>>345029812
He's got a Potato face
>>345029812
Siggy's here wondering why the fuck he's letting a downie join the army.
>>345029812
>Ike's Jewish Downie cousin
Best character design ever.
He looks like he dyed his hair blue in an attempt to look like a Fire Emblem character.
>>345029812
Wait a minute....that face....
oh boy.
>>345030436
That beautiful Defense.
>>345030436
Has this nigga gotten a single point in defense since we started?
ALTHARES HUGE THIEF
>>345030307
Get on my level lmoa
>>345030535
I think he got 1
man, ace does NOT want to be used...
>>345030436
this guy makes Lucius from FE7 look like a tank.
>>345030743
Why are these soldiers so shitty?
>>345030743
We need to bring this guy on every battle until he's good.
literally all of my mages have more def than shuuda.
>>345030883
because they are the definition of mediocre. Only FE9/10 managed to get them right. When its really as simple as
>okay see these merc stat spreads? Alright, now move them over to this soldier and bump his con a little so lances dont suck
>>345031031
He looks like he's hungover and hasn't slept in 8 days,
>>345030743
git gud or die trying.
>>345030743
DONT WORRY IF HE GETS 8 PERFECT LVLUPs HES SOLID
>>345031094
he's blazed as fuck
>>345031094
yes he does also because he is high as fuck
>>345031201
Not if we kill ourselves first!
>>345031201
>killing CIA
>he doesn't know
HUUUUUUUUGE
wait, that was an instawin?
fuck!
>>345031339
I wonder if this hack ever goes ham on long range tomes
>>345031431
What class is this downy anyway?
>>345031481
Hero
>>345031431
Mate looks like Hector's failed aborted brother.
new chapter!
full disclosure, this is the final chapter I've ever played myself, I don't know anything going forward.
>>345031339
Is Kevindowner making a return?
>>345031031
I checked it out, and Shuuda not only starts with merely a passable amount of def but also has a low def growth compared to your other units. In fact, all of your mages do have a higher def growth than him, including Tamiko and Anakin but excluding Cia. Hell, I think everyone you're using has an equal or higher def growth than him, aside from Cia.
>>345031458
there a few that pop up.
>>345031683
uncharted waters lads
oh boy, I get the feeling it's time for a text dump.
yup.
>>345032373
He's either going to join us or die.
this text dump is like 15 minutes, right?
>>345032468
oh my god
>>345032845
I think Siggy is calling you a shitter
>>345032845
it's still going
>>345033116
Let's kill him and just take all of his money.
STILL
>>345033227
This hack is shit if that character doesnt have a laser shot from his forehead in his battle animation
OH MY GOD
>>345033475
He's going to betray us and kill Kelik. Hopefully.
>>345033564
I think he'd be doing us a favor then.
>>345033576
IT IS STILL GOING HOLY FUCK
>>345033443
it's shit then. Dude doesn't even have Zephiel's animation from FE6.
>>345033716
to be fair OP, it had to have a plot dump sometime
>>345033716
>Howard
What a heroic name.
>>345033906
THE BRAVEST
STILL GOING
>>345033906
>FE
>autistic fanhack
>not having some garbage plot dump/reveal period that goes on longer than it should
ill bet theres atleast 2-3 more of these too OP
>>345034032
Haven't seen this much dialogue at once since I played Pokemon Y.
>>345033972
so, who is the Bane to Cia's...CIA?
I love Kelik!
>>345034175
honestly he could be far worse design wise. he looks extremely edgy but at least not out of place
alright, so to summarize:
magnus used galagar to port hundreds of soldiers to take Blaine(downs-guy's kingdom)
the king of magnus made plans to take over blaine
kelik got a heaven seal
shon and siegfried recruited howard
and these wyvern retards think we're magnian soldiers
>>345034313
yeah, it's really the writing that makes him unbearable.
*guitar riff begins*
KIDS ARE CRUEL, KELIK, AND I'M VERY IN TOUCH WITH MY INNER CHILD
>>345034450
id like to see old kelik, like karel between fe6 and 7, would be actually kinda interesting to see how an actual well thought out character would process all the ridiculous fuckery that happens in this game
>>345034592
RED SUN
RED SUN OVER PARADISE
>>345034592
Awwyeah
>>345034686
So we've got a general now. Cool.
>>345034686
GOLDEN RAYS OF A GLORIOUS SUNSHINE
SETTING DOWN SUCH A BLOOD RED LIGHT
>>345034770
NOW THE ANIMALS SLOWLY RETREAT TO THE SHADOWS
OUT OF SIGHT
>>345034770
>"I am become Wall, destroyer of weapons"
>>345034849
holy shit
>>345034686
https://youtu.be/HSZwEaYHSpc?t=52s
>>345034849
Now his res is as high as shuuda's defense
ANY CHANGES?
>>345035306
Nah
>>345035306
NOPE
GO
>>345035306
Drop Ace for Inanna
Let's drop Cia for Inanna.
She's already too powerful
>>345035402
There's no saving Inanna desu
plus we need to continue the soldier race to see who turns out the least shitty
>>345035489
Pft, sounds like you've never played FE7. There's always saving.
he's not really relying on me, is he?
>>345035598
Let's have him fight that dragon guy.
>>345034770
>>345034849
...you know, I think this is literally the exact same backstory as Mark
>axe-wielder
>lived in a small valencian village
>village was destroyed by bandits
>he later found out magnus got the bandits to do it
god, these soldiers are like picking the least smelly shit.
>>345035970
Why aren't we picking the smelliest shit, then?
at least he's getting useful stats.
>>345036159
CAP STRENGTH YOU BITCH
>>345036246
WATCH OUT REX.
>>345035754
You're talking to the Est unit if I remember things right
>>345036634
Tamiko Flynn.
jesus christ.
>>345036780
He's perfect.
>>345036780
what the fuck are this guy's growths?
>>345036780
where did it all go so wrong
>>345036780
meanwhile
>>345036780
COME ON PERFECT LEVEL UPS LAST 3 LEVELS
ITLL MAKE HIM SOMEWHAT GOOD RIGHT
>>345036780
>>345037052
How are they both so bad?
>>345036893
Ace 80/ 45/ 45/ 50/ 40/ 35/ 25
Rex 80/ 40/ 40/ 45/ 45/ 35/ 20
>>345036780
>>345037052
They are both total failures.
>>345036893
80 40 40 45 45 35 20
basically a slightly shittier eliwood
>>345036246
>4 levels lowers than Rex
>+2 hp, -1 str, +2 spd, -3 def, and +2 res
Ace is in it to win it!
>>345036893
80 hp, 40 str, 40 skl, 45 spd, 45 lck, 35 def, and 20 res
Compared to Ace's
80 hp, 45 str, 45 skl, 50 spd, 40 lck, 35 def, and 20 res
Though keep in mind their bases were radically different.
>>345037140
You what mate? Your Eliwood is shitty. Mine is a GOD among mere mortals!
>>345037116
Wow, they're practically the same in the same sense that their growths are shit compared to others.
it's...not awful?
>>345037262
He's going to be a god.
>>345037262
I'm sorry I ever doubted you, Ace
>>345037262
christ its like ace and rex have complete opposite stats
>>345037262
>"least I have more defense than Shuuda"
IS THIS THE WYVERN CHAPTER?
>>345037436
Nerf fucking mages.
if i remember right ace is someone's oc donut steal that they tried shoving into every project at the time
FRESH. SQUEEZED. BENCH. JUICE.
>>345037234
Actually, they have pretty strong growths, or at least Ace does. He's comparable to every other character in the hack that isn't a super special OC like Kelik or Tekun.
>>345037262
You doubt the potential of high AS. Plus his hp is pretty solid.
he's going to cap SPD
and nothing else.
>>345037583
All we do is choose characters while you have fun.
>>345037583
YO FUCK THIS CHAPTER AND ITS LONG ASS MAP SIZE!
The BGM was pretty comfy though so put that shit on full blast and GL OP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SUXAWQA5_A
>>345037683
>when i die... tell them... i went fast
>>345037683
I regret having faith in Ace.
Maybe we can reclass him to a General so he can use the speed.
C-support!
>>345037683
>>345037767
speed you say?
>>345034156
Howard
>>345037924
Time for CIA to meet her Big Guy
>>345037492
What else was he in? I only know of this and THE Lavos hack
>>345037924
what a dumb fucking name for a horse
he wants the BG
>>345038017
... Meh, let's give it to him.
>>345037731
Blazer had good taste in music
>>345037860
No reclassing in this hack
>>345037924
>...His name is Alberic
I didn't even know this guy was recruitable
>>345037924
Dr Alberic, I'm CIA
>>345037860
Sorry buddy, this ain't Sacred Stones. though through Hacking, you could theoretically make branching promotions based on what promotion item you used.
all of the shit levels!
>>345037924
>she never got to say "Well congratulations! You got yourself caught! Now what's the next step of your master plan?" while he was in prison
welp, rex and ace are now even.
>>345038017
For him.
>>345038408
Are you going to make them duel in the link arena to decide who stays in the main party?
>>345038408
Tiebreak it with the link arena if it keeps up
>>345038057
I was kidding.
>>345038175
>though through Hacking, you could theoretically make branching promotions based on what promotion item you used
That's not how it works. Base classes are assigned class(es) to promote into, it doesn't matter how you promote them. There is a hack out there that promotes based on the item used, but I don't think it's fully functional, plus you have to worry about stuff like palettes.
Wasn't this that unfinished hack years ago with the cool attack animations?
>>345038530
>>345038537
do this
comparison
>>345038530
>>345038537
DO IT
MAKE THEM FIGHT TO THE DEATH
>>345038530
>>345038537
fuckin bomb idea. do it OP
>>345038626
Ace is doing more damage since he can double more enemies. He also has more HP
>>345038601
Probably that, MK404's hack or FE7 if hack
>>345038626
Ace
>+6 HP, +6 speed, +2 Res
Rex
>+1 Str, +1 skl, +8 Luck, +2 Def, +1 Con
>>345038626
Well, I'd put my money on ace.
At the very least he's going fast.
But still, do >>345038630
>>345038626
>19 to 13 speed
Well at least one of them can avoid shit
>>345038626
>+6 hp, -1 str, +6 spd, -2 def, and +2 res
Even factoring in Rex's slightly higher con, Ace is the clear winner. He just needs you to believe in him.
>>345038746
>+1 con
can ace, rex is bae
>yfw as soon as rex vs ace is concluded we have to return to the sad reality that we're still on kelik's wild ride
i say we keep both of em and run the entire game with em
>>345038865
Ace come on, man
>>345038865
More Def isn't gonna save you when based Rex pierces you though the dick with his spear, bud
>>345025523
>SKL- your chance to hit and dodge attacks
>and dodge attacks
Here's a better idea: how about we have them all kill each other?
>>345038865
>almost as much str and def as Rex
>but far more spd
You can do it Ace!
>>345038947
Why are Wyvern Riders always the best?
>>345039072
doesn't it? I always thought SKL factored into your dodge.
>>345039079That will be at the very end when CIA and Howard team up to kill the rest of the roster in the link arena
>>345039079
so, basically what you want is a Tamiko versus Cia fight. because those two are going to be the only ones left standing.
>>345039173
I think that's Speed.
>>345038865
>>345038947
If nothing else, ace's terrible stat ups motivate everyone else to do better, except for Rex
>>345039173
Skl - hit n' crit
>>345039173
skill is to hit and crit, luck is to dodge and lower enemy crit
>>345039173
Nope, avoidance is (2*SPD + LCK) in the GBA games
HUGE
>>345039173
>equivalent skl and def
A C E
>I always thought SKL factored into your dodge
You're probably thinking of luck, which slightly boosts hit, avoid, and crit avoid by 1 for every 1 point. Skl boosts hit only by 2 for every 1 point.
>>345039173
SKL is for hit/critical, SPD is for doubling/evasion, LUK gives a small bonus to hit, critical, evasion, and critical evasion
>>345039173
Based Ace is gonna do it
>>345039215
>Killing the rest of "The Flight Plan Team"
How about no
>>345039368
my bad
ARE YOU READY /v/?
TONIGHT WE HAVE 2 SOLDIERS READY TO FIGHT TO THE DEATH
WHO IS GONNA WIN?
FIND OUT SOON!
>>345039347
Skill also determines your base Crit. Luck has no effect on determining your Crit, but does lower your chances of being critical'd.
>>345039323
>slow peg knight
>>345039323
>Peg Knight capping strength
>>345039323
>13 spd
Shes too big for her horse
>>345039442
Baced is going to do it.
>>345039438
holy shit slap a skill book on rex and he's actually decent
>>345039442
whoever wins gets to be on the flight plan.
>>345039442
Ace is going to destroy Rex but OP should do it for the satisfaction
>>345039368
Luck doesn't boost crit, then it might actually be a good stat.
>>345039451
Yeah, I missed that. But usually crit boost comes from weapons anyways.
>>345039323
>capping STR
>13 SPD at Lv15
That's no peg knight
>>345039442
Place your bets
http://www.strawpoll.me/10749024
>>345038742
Thanks, but I already looked it up and I mistaken it for Immortal Sword.
>>345039442
Ace has the edge just by having enough Speed to double Rex.
>>345039743
Looks like Rex is going out with a bang
>>345039438
>>345039743
THE COMEBACK
>>345039743
i never lost faith in him
>>345039514
>>345039624
Unless TLP changed it, all stats for unpromoted units cap at 20. She'll get 3 more points.
>>345039743
>getting hp, str, and spd, plus skl and res
He is trying his damn best.
>>345039743
Looks like he overheard he might be benched
>>345039743
It's like theyre trying as little as possible to outbench the other
>>345039442
>str vs dex
>>345039834
meanwhile anikin doesn't know what to level because hes so blazed
>def
>>345039858
Luck always caps at 30, regardless of promotion.
>>345039834
SPEED WEED
>>345039963
Atleast hes a solid dodgetank?
>>345039834
Alright, that's it, no more weed for you.
Lirin, meanwhile, is just smugly aware she's already on the flight plan.
>there was an anon insistent that she was shitty compared to inaana
>>345039969
You're right, forgot about that. Kinda weird how it's always 30 no matter what, even if it's more of a character than a class thing.
>>345040124
If it wasnt for her shit def id almostt hink she wanted to be a wyvern rider instead of a peg
and there's rex.
