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Which game does war right?
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Which game does war right?
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Operation Flashpoint
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Red Alert 2
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>>345024520
>"OH NO THREE IS DOWN"
>"THIS IS 4 TAKING COMMAND"
>"2'0 CLOCK BMP"

Damn right
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>>345024154
You can't do war "right" in video games, you underage COD babby.
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>>345025208
me on the left
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>>345024789
Here's your (You)
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Black Ops 1
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Valiant Hearts: The Great War
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>>345024789
Oh, sorry, that wasn't for you

>>345024836
(You)
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Overwatch
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Ace Combat Zero
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>tfw no Hiroshima game
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>>345025208

In this picture we can see two very sad people grieving the loss of their helmets
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Red Orchestra
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>>345024154
Close combat and combat mission
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Men of war.

They have names
They have families
You send them to die.
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Spec Ops
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>>345027402
I have no pity for those chinks. They shouldn't have gone to war illegally.
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>>345024154
None of them do.
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Metal Gear Solid
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>>345027570
>war
>legal
All that legality bullshit happens AFTER the war. There are no real rules in war, just those who survive.
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Red Orchestra 2 maybe. It's hard to tell, I'm glad I have never been in a war.
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>>345027267
>Hiroshima game
>2 Factions: Civilian japs and the murrican pilots
>1 Mission in the whole game for each faction, either get obliterated by an atom bomb or press a button and make an U turn in a plane

Seems like a really wonderful idea
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ArmA
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>>345027781
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>>345027707
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_war

no
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>vietnam level
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>>345027267
Jeez. 80s anime was fucking gritty.
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>>345024154
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war is cute!
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>>345027880
proves nothing
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>>345027781

This anglo fuck nauseates me.

Oh well, he betrayed his country for zionism, and they suffered for it.
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>>345028162
Do you know how to read?
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>tfw no Chechnya game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNR7oOdIKh8
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>>345025208
look at these homos
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Brothers in arms aint too bad
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>>345027194

Not him but it's almost contradictory to have a game with the reality of war. Because it fucking sucks.

Most of war is traveling and waiting. Which is boring and shitty to experience.

What game can replicate standing watch at midnight, catching a drag, and having a chat with the other watch guy before you look at your watch. Disappointment scrawls across your face as only 5 minutes were actually passed.

You don't want to play a game about war without either abstracting heavily or focusing purely on the kinetics of conflict.
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>>345024154
My name is John Normand of 424 Urbandale, APt 1, called ftrwar by my gay friends. That guy looks like he has a package, and my ass is the mailbox. I hope he gives me a delivery. I love trannies.
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>>345025208

Do I need to slap a bitch?
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>>345025512
He killed many American soldiers with the fake baby bomb on his back
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>>345027975
Well I guess the actual fighting is unfun just like real life.
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>>345028191
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>>345027975
>prone soldier
haha nice fan pic
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How can you make something right when the whole concept is wrong?
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>>345027653
They were just fucking kids
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>>345028565

Winston Churchill's mother was Jewish. The British were literally fighting for a Jew
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>>345028481
>package
thats a dog
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this game wasn't as fun as some other modern FPSes but it had its moments and definitely did war in a different way.. this shit stuck with me for a while
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>>345028606
>concept is wrong?
huh?
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>>345027781
>We were supposed to have reached a stage of civilization in which it might still be necessary to execute a criminal, but not to gloat, or to hang his wife and child by him while the orc-crowd hooted. The destruction of Germany, be it 100 times merited, is one of the most appalling world-catastrophes. Well, well,—you and I can do nothing about it. And that [should] be a measure of the amount of guilt that can justly be assumed to attach to any member of a country who is not a member of its actual Government. Well the first War of the Machines seems to be drawing to its final inconclusive chapter—leaving, alas, everyone the poorer, many bereaved or maimed and millions dead, and only one thing triumphant: the Machines.
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>>345027880
They wrote that story AFTER the war, like I said, so thanks for providing evidence of my point.
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>>345028646

they were nazis
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>>345028089
dat filename tho
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>>345028779
>They wrote that story
What it has to do with fact that Japan declared war illegally and got nuked? Why is nuking bad in first place?
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>>345024154
Wargame series. Less about the horrors of war and more about how battles are actually fought.
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>>345028652
>this meme
Britannia would never ally a filthy socialist.

Labour ought to be hanged.
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>>345029071
>Why is nuking bad in first place?
no idea man. I can't think of anything. absolutely nothing comes to mind. you're right.
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>>345027873
>>345027781
these are the type of webms that actually show how fucking awful war is.

you can't blame devs for wanting to sugar coat it, but it's still interesting and no game has gotten this feeling down yet.
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>>345029225
Wargame fucked me up like
>the recommended strategy is bombing towns and forests because that's where people might be
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>>345029071
>Why is nuking bad in first place?
This. everyone tells me not to nuke my food in the microwave because it isn't good for you but no way in hell am I going to cook something.
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>>345029225
>that feel when I spot a starting deployment army deploying on our flank
>send over the F-111C
>it drops it's 8000kg of bombs
>BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

I lost my aircraft, but the guy had to sit doing nothing for fucking ages waiting for his points to return.
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>>345027952
It's an animation made for the Hiroshima Museum I believe
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>>345029336
Japan survived. Is there a reason a nuclear bomb is worse than a standard bombing? The only points I can think of are in its favor favor: Speed and efficiency.
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>>345029071
There is no such thing as an illegal declaration of war.
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>>345029336
what's the difference between kill by nuke and fire bomb? or a mortar shell? Or a bullet? Why?
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>>345024154
Spec Ops: The Line
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Not BF 1
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There any games where I can bomb children with million dollar missiles?

That'd be a real war game.
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>>345029504
>>345029513
It's more about the idea of how it only takes a single weapon to kill tens of thousands of people in an instant
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>>345027590
Just because there's an underlying "war and nukes are bad" message doesn't mean it depicts war right
There's still plenty of goofy moments, boss fights, and you still gun down hundreds of nameless soldiers
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>>345027267
DROP THE BOMB DO DO DO DO DO JUST DROP THE BOMB
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> mfw not a single game about the yugoslav war

the only thing that comes close is "this war of mine" wich was inspired by events in it, but there is still so much more potential content in that game

> warfare in cities and mountains
> a lot of barely trained rebels fighting other barely trained rebels
> a ton of stories of friends having to fight eachother in combat
> a ideological crisis, with both worldwide political interests and regiligious motivations involved in the war
> one of americas greatest military embarassments of recent history when they got their brand new stealth bomber shut down by unprofessional ahmeds
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>>345028789
why did they not kill him?
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>>345029428
>everyone tells me not to nuke my food in the microwave because it isn't good for you
Those people are idiots. The oven just makes the water molecules in your food vibrate so that it heats up.
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>>345029589
>>345027547
>>345028721

>hehe, look at how bad you are for taking this decision that we forced you to take!

No.

Spec Ops is an adaptation of Heart of Darkness/Apocalypse Now, not a thrilling war story.

Plus the combat is unbearably dull.
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>>345028871

They were, but they were kids
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>>345029368
Yeah. Fucking assaulting towns man.
>Enemy Troops in town what do?
>A). Pop smoke in front of the town and assault with ground troops.
>B). Drop Napalm on them and mop up whats left.
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>>345029737
>ahmeds
They were Serbians desu.
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>>345028789
Anyone got the IRL pic of this?
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>>345027590
Naw, MGS has down the espionage behind war, and what movies depict as stopping or preventing a war, but it doesn't have actual war down. The themes and whatnot are pretty spot on though.
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>>345029513
I'm going to guess radioactive fallout

It's probably the same reason Flamethrowers aren't used anymore, inhumane if you don't die instantly
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>>345028646
Yes? And? Do you think child soldiers are incapable of firing a gun or some shit?
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>>345029591
>make a game about history
>don't make it historically accurate
this is an embarrassment.
Imagine making a feature film about Hiroshima but it featured a black man as a Japanese citizen when the bomb fell
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>>345029489
Isn't it just the anime adaptation of Barefoot Gen?
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>>345029326
Holy shit you posted this before I posted this >>345029446
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>>345029914
I meant that they were muslims
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>>345030008

imagine every movie ever made about wars, which are all inaccurate. You are just a baby, admit it.
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>>345029863
guess what, napalm use of that kind is a warcrime
hell even doing regular mortar fire is illegal if its toward cities
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>>345029591
/pol/tards find a reason to get offended over anything

Is having black soldiers in a WW1 game realistic? Probably not, but this is the same game where you can use explosives to send a car flying and the same game where you can simply hide for a few seconds to recover from a sniper bullet in the chest
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>>345028871
how do people not realize every german wasn't a nazi by now, what sorta education do you people get

that's not even the proper germany army for fucks sake, it's the volkssturm, a literal militia force
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>>345029591
Using the Harlem Hellfighters DLC skin in the customization option for MP. Stop forcing this meme.
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>>345028646
this is the type of shit someone in a war will never comprehend. those kids wouldve killed us without a second guess.

I never wanna experience that feeling desu
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>>345029983
>radioactive fallout
People leave in Hiroshima just fine
>aren't used anymore, inhumane if you don't die instantly
Cluster bombs are inhumane and still used, white phosphorus is inhumane and while banned still used
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>>345030081
it is
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>>345029918
there is no irl pic, it's just part of the movie, it's called come and see if you were wondering
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>>345028789
>tfw grandpa told me of how his tank squadron just rammed through packed nazi civillian trains in Ukraine just as they were ready to leave
>tfw all those civs who were promised a bright future on the foreign land
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>>345028191
It's not the anglo's fault, he was usurped by the Hebrew
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>>345027653
>seeing kids with that much hate in their eyes
thats fucked up man
were they all killed?
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>>345030169
Serbians hate muslims, its the bosnians that were muslim.

>newest

Also at that time The F-117 wasn't very new, and had already rekt shit in the gulf war

Pretty sure the YF-22 or B-2 are stealthier.
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>>345030175
Not all of them. Waterloo by Sergey Bondarchuk is accurate to as much as you can be.
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https://youtu.be/Yy_4JmGCt-Q

Mandatory music for thread.
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>>345029454
>your favorite mmo after your friends quit.png
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>>345030517
Do you see soviet soldiers? I don't, so chance are high that they were not
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>>345029504
It is also the idea that the pinnacle of the technological advancement of a country results in a weapon solely created to destroy non-combatants.
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>>345030517

What? Half of them look terrified.
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>>345030008
it's a fucking DLC code option you can unlock for the harlem hellfighters that replaces skins. Calm your dick
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>>345030619

Wow french soldiers speaking english? Americans playing as French? What a fucking disgrace to history.
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Not really war, but one thing that >>345029618 reminded me of was how it always struck me hard how the dead bodies in F.E.A.R. all had a look of peace and release on their face
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>>345027523
Did all 3 of them die?
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>>345030517
You'd be pretty upset that someone invaded your country, shot your father, raped your mother, and then firebomded your house too.
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give me your most disturbing WAR pic or webm that'll give me ptsd
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>>345030798
No, I think only the first guy did.
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Yes it is now, but Wargame is set in the late 1960s - 1980s.
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Red Orchestra, I guess.
One shot, and you're probably dead.
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>>345030729
Do you think he died
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>>345027267
duck

and cover

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAiYwADzr2Q
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>>345030187
>mortar fire is illegal if its toward cities
War on Donbass proves you wrong, since how much it is shelled in cities
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>>345030369
huh, I remember seeing a grainy black and white shot of that scene so I thought the movie was reenacting it.
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Pity isn't a word I'd exactly use for Russia, given circumstances and past treatment of other nearby countries but man you look at the longstanding history of the country and it's just so many dead people, revolution after revolution.

I'm more well versed in Chinese history and that general nature of how they came to be but I look at Russia and I'm just dumbfounded.
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>>345030847
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4Pd527GN48
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>>345030265

This is literally not brought up anywhere when discussing WW2, other than in university.
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>>345031025
i does not prove anything wrong, all it does is confirming people dont stick to the rules of war
yes its a real thing
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>>345028646
Kids can kill people too. Musashi killed a guy when he was 13 for example.
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>>345030265
>in war gear
>is german
>clearly had intentions to kill

Seems like a Nazi to me. You are the cuck from Saving Private Ryan who ended up getting his squadmate killed by releasing the Nazi. It's war. People are out to kill and win until the enemy surrenders. If you don't arrest them, you kill them. There are no in betweens.
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>>345029326
This shit is why you don't move your shit outside of your AA bubble.
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>>345031153
After Peter the Great up until 1917, things weren't that bad desu.
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>>345031216

*In education, I mean.
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>>345030195
What gameplay mechanics motivated the dev to turn the historically whites soldiers to blacks ?
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>>345031256

>having gear, the intention to kill and being german is enough to be a Nazi

Christ.
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>>345031153
>but I look at Russia and I'm just dumbfounded.
> revolution after revolution.
Wasn't Chinese history full of revolutions? Like late XIX to early XX they had "100 days of reforms" then boxers rebellion then Yuan Shikaj (or how was he called) made liberal revolution, only followed by overthrowing next elected government and whole warring warlord-kingdoms followed after WWI?
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>>345027267
all I can think of while seeing this webm is damn japan you dun fucked up choosing to attack america
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>>345031471

>angriiiiiiiiiiim
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>>345031632

One of the admirals behind Pearl Harbour, whose name I can't remember, thought it was stupid too.
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>>345031736
That would be Yamamoto.
Though i am quite sure the quote is fabricated, since he consistently underestimated the Americans (which led him to lose the Battle of Midway)
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>>345031223
A rules of war none sticks to are not real rules of war. Who even said you can't shell toward cities? Is it actually recognized or just one of the treaties not even US signed too?
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>>345031025
Donbass yes, but the city Donetz itself, was only ever shelled by stray fire.
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>>345031632
They knew they had no chance to win, that's why they tried to avoid war with US as much as they could. Of course until USA embargoed them, they had not much choice left but to banzai and thought they could do same as in Japan-Russian war
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>>345030053
was that the priest that would run into gunfire armed with faith to grab fallen soldiers?
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>>345031153
Better than being ruled over by someone else for hundreds of years I guess. At least you get to fuck yourself over rather than someone else fucking you.
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>>345031451

Whites are physically inferior so it's more believable if they are black ingame and able to jump over waist high walls and run around without getting tired or getting skin cancer.
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>>345030293
translation:
>God, if I die young send me to heaven
>i've already been to hell
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>>345032047

i had to look it up its some dumb vuvuzuelan priest 50 years back. if he'd let them bleed out their country might not have been as fucked up as it is.
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>>345027267
So when are they going to make an anime that features jap soldiers raping and eviscerating chinese girls?
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>>345032047
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7po52DQytEs
>8:08
>it's literally Geralt of rivia
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If you find yourself alone, riding in green fields with the sun on your face, do not be troubled; for you are in Elysium, and you're already dead!
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>>345032003
Is Donetsk Airport close enough to count as part of the city? It was shelled like hell every day by both sides
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>>345030879
>yfw the Poos are part of Team Red
>yfw the Israeli's are part of the Blue team

I don't care, I love Merka's.
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>>345030291
>Harlem Hellfighters

>German and Australian soldiers are turned black

Can you think BEFORE you post absolute horseshit?
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>>345031239
you know, the soldiers are people too.
maybe not all of them are the best quality person, but they are certainly better than most of these liberal shitheads plaguing the western world
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>>345031239
A good reminder that just because a lot of people get fucked up by war it doesn't mean everyone does.
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>>345029618
I have more of these.
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>>345031114
It's a filter over a screencap from the movie, there's no "real" picture, but it's a common misconception.
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>>345031492
It was real in my mind!
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>>345031564
Mandate of Heaven along with Yuan, Ming and Qing dynasties helped keep China afloat for a long period of time. They weren't conflict less of course, but China for a long period of time prospered until the British Opium Wars among other emerging things of that time period.

It differs among people but I believe the Qing to be the most important in Chinese history but that's just me.
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>>345028515
>t. dumb fat autist that has never and will never see combat
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>>345030265
Hat at :13 has the totenkompf bade, so either he was part of a panzer division (unlikely) or one of the many hastily raised SS units, which means he was a nazi.
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>>345028970
>webm cuts out the part where he says the mortar fire stopped afterwards
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>>345031471
damn, war is hell
really makes you think
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>>345032409
>that last guy twitching
i wonder for how long his soul was still kicking around in there
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>>345029828
you make some really good points. I thought that it WAS pretty lame that your hand was forced throughout.

But imo it doesn't really detract too much from the narrative. just because I don't personally have agency over the situation doesn't mean I can't empathize with the main character, you know?? Like how in books we can feel for the protagonist even though they're the ones making all the decisions.

But yes, the game could definitely be strengthened with a little less linearity. I think it still shows war in a way that few other games want to tackle.

also yeah the combat was pretty lame haha.. that's why I said that I found other modern FPSes more fun
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>>345031328
Except for practically everyone living in Russia.
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>>345031849
yeah, the "sniper behind every blade of grass" quote is apocryphal
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>>345032591
>his soul

Reported for underage
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>>345030792
is that Mike from Red Letter Media
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>>345032409
Was it just a coincidence that japan happened to have it's govt hijacked by the military at the same time that germany was on the warpath in europe?
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>>345032809
nope, but I saw a picture of a dead body once that looked just like him
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>>345027570
>going to war illegally

Nigger international law is just fucking words, outside the jurisdiction of any one national state, might makes right
Fortunately the US was mightier so whatever.
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>>345032357
their adamant traditions ruined China, they could modernize as Japan did under Meiji but Cixi and alike thought they could live in time of yore all the time
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>>345032901
irl?
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>>345024154
That war game that was called back after the news outlets bashed it.
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>>345032243
it's more in spartak than it is in donetsk, but yeah, it's technically donetsk-airport

are you sure it was shelled? I know it received a lot of grenade and small arms fire but I am unsure about actual shelling
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>>345032939
At least chinese people can get their fuck on.
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>>345032834
japan had it's government hijacked since the late 20s
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>>345032834
>coincidence
Blame world stock colapse that was far worse in Japan than US because they lacked natural resources that Manchuria had
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>>345032987
yeah, someone posted an old war picture that had some dead bodies lined up and the first person looked almost exactly like Mike in this picture
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am I the only one somewhat fearful of the fact that their country requires you to sign up for selective service at age 18? I guess its not as bad as some of the required service other countries do but im 23 and ripe for the picking
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>>345027267
Whats the point of the parachute? its still going to explode if it clashes with the ground lmao the fuck?
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>>345032328
post them pls
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>>345033036
mortar shelling, yes, not big guns but anti-personal
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>>345033162
>its still going to explode if it clashes with the ground
nukes dont work like that
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RO2/Rising Storm
https://youtu.be/ldNSMnEeKio
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>>345028970
>>345032525
Is this vid on youtube with audio?
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>>345033162
Pretty sure there is some sort of trigger in the nose that sets them off when something hits it.
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>>345033162
Give pilots time to escape?
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>>345033162
nukes generally don't explode when they hit the ground.
They airburst several hundred meters of the ground.
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>>345033050
Europe still bears the scars from a war started over 100 years ago.
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>>345033047
Chinese people ruined China and continue to ruin it. requesting webm of escalators/road paving/ANYTHING eating people in China
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>>345033137
Is there a way to dodge service if you're picked?
My country has mandatory required service (6 months minimum) but you can choose to do civilian service instead and work in a school or something for one year. Then you won't be in the military reserve and can't be called to arms in case of a happening.
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hitler should have just finished off britain he would have woned the war
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>>345033548
At least they arent dying off because everyone is too much of a pussy to fuck each other.
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>>345027167
this.
war makes men mad.
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>>345033665
they have just 100 million woman shortage, nothing serious
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>>345031329
If for some reason the Democratic party started a war against the world and exterminating citizens, you are implicitly responsible by not standing up and letting it happen even if you're not a registered member of the party.

For instance, Germans living near concentration camps knew 100% what was a going on and did nothing to stop it. These people are evil and deserve no respect; fortunately they were given none. The Americans forced people like this to march through the camps, including children.
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>>345033631
What makes you thing operation Sea Lion would be a success? Remember that the Germans did not have any viable landing boats.
And the Brits had their navy and air force.
Hitler's campaign was doomed from the get-go.
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>>345024154
This war of mine. Papers, please (it deals with the aftermatch).
OFP and ArmA.
Il-2 (strongly related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlJKIO45xks).
Some moments of Medal of honor: AA and its expansions.
ALFA: Antiterror and expansion.
>>345032003
It is Donetsk, not Donetz. Donetz is a river. It is a big city, but it had some damage (check out city's group in vkontakte). And then there was smaller ones like Debaltsevo, or massive siege of Donetsk airport: see the movie or other youtube footage for yourself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMQNb9_ND7w
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>>345033718
Still preferable to having a negative population growth rate.
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>>345033718

I think you mean a 100 million man surplus that they can expend to annex their neighbors
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>>345033739
>For instance, Germans living near concentration camps knew 100% what was a going on and did nothing to stop it.
and what exactly were they supposed to do? rush in with brooms and defeat the armed guards?
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>>345033739
>including children
Yeah, because children could stop armed Nazis. Come the fuck on.
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>>345033869
Who? Those Indonesian shitholes?
The Koreas?
Fucking Russia?
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>>345033631
Hitler should have told Japan not to attack Soviets till they were prepared and opened two fronts with them in 41
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>>345033787
I heard somewhere that germany was giving them all sorts of problems bombing their airstrips until a german city accidentally got bombed and hitler made them bomb british cities instead, which allowed the brits to get their planes and shit back flying and shit.
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>>345034009
>Fucking Russia?
They already do so, Putin sells Siberia bits by bits to Chinese
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>>345033869
Yeah but they wont
Lots of people seem to think they will for some reason.

They've defined economic growth as a priority since Deng, and they need good relations with the surrounding countries and the US to do that.

The most i can see them doing is annexing north korea, and even that seems unlikely.
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>>345034012
The Japs could not afford to fight AND the Soviets together with the Chinese and the Americans.
Especially when the Soviets proved that they were capable of fending off the Japanese in the border conflicts in Manchuria.
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>>345024154
Arma2's the only war sim, right?
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>>345034120
Source.
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>>345034009

vietnam, laos, myanmar
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