Dark Souls 2:
>Hey you know, I feel like doing some PvP. I'll hit the arenas.
>Hey I beed a break from the arenas, I'll hit the fight club at Iron Keep bridge.
>Hey I'm bored of the fight clubs, I'll do some red invades.
>Well red invades aren't very fun, I keep invading noobs just trying to play through the PvE. I can see why people like it but it's not my thing.
>I'll go stand in Belfy Luna and invade and get invaded and earn Ore while I'm at it.
>Time to take a break from Luna, let's go to Sol.
>Ahhh, I'm tired of this too, let's blue invade all over the world.
>This is fun, I get to PvP all over the game, and I get to punish people for invading noobs.
>look at bonfire map, see several outline indicators displaying which areas have the most players in them atm
>Go stand in those areas with delicate string and dried finger active
>Periodically get invaded in between blue invades
>Fighting all over the game, wherever I want, punishing sinners, drawing sinners to my world, whenever I get bored of one style of PvP I go back to doing arenas, fight clubs, bell tower, etc.
Dark Souls 3:
>Hey you know, I feel like doing some PvP
>wow they really limited the PvP this time around...
>I guess I'll fight club?
>well that got boring fast, I guess I'll blue invade and punish sinners?
>oh, that doesn't exist anymore, I guess I'll dried finger and wait to be invaded?
>oh, I can't because I've already cleared the game and you can't be invaded after you've cleared the area
>Well I guess I'll red invade... oh wow it's a 1v4 and each enemy rolls behind his three teammates and chugs the moment I land one blow on him episode...
>>345018456
>this thread again
kys pvpfag
>>345018456
Hey buddyGit Gud
>>345019280
But I'm better than you.
>>345019280
STR baby detected
>>345019003
Every day to punish DS3 babbies for spamming DS2 sucks for the past few months.
>>345018456
PVP in DaS has always been shit. Prove me wrong.
Why post this thread again? If no one's taking the bait, then know when to fucking quit.
I literally just beat DS3 a half hour ago, thankfully this piece of shit is still worth $27 to trade-in.
>>345020929
Nice. I bought it on steam so I don't have that option.
Ds2 was garbage and if you think otherwise you're retarded there is no debate
>>345018456
Give me one good reason why you aren't just invading the high wall and wrecking shitters all day.
>>345021775
>Confined to invading a single area of the game.
>Confined to invading noobs who you will easily beat every time with no challenge.
>No option to invade all over the world.
No thanks I'll stick to the superior game that is DS2.
>>345018456
>I'll hit the arenas.
Worse than hit the shower.
Fuck people who like WoW arenas in souls.
DaSII fags need to kill themselves.
>>345023420
>12 listed options for PVP for DS2, many unlisted
>Complains about 1 out of 12 listed
>DS3 has only 1 option for PVP
>He doesn't complain about it
DS3 apologist spotted.
>>345023721
DaS3 was fun.
DaS2 was dogshit.
I really don't care. BB is the best souls game. The Dark Souls trilogy wasn't that good overall. We can argue about which one is best or worst but overall they are all pretty bad. DaS2 just happens to stick out as the worst.
2 is the best game.
>>345018456
>DS2fag makes a ridiculously long grentext autistic rant
>>345022312
I make several characters for different areas.
>>345023874
in just countries they shoot people like you.
>It's a Straight Sword or Curved Sword delayed R1 spam outside of the Pontiff boss arena episode
>>345026036
I am beyond enlightened when it comes to souls.
I still get mad at other series but there isn't a single das2 fan who isn't literally retarded.
So someone saying DaS2 is best or better than any other souls game is like you saying one plus one equals three. I can't get angry because you are too stupid.
>>345025254
2>3>1 is the objective truth.
>>345026203
>being this wrong
2 is the best in the series. If you disagree you don't even like Souls games and are just bandwagoning on the hate meme to fit in.
>>345018456
>pvp cry baby strikes again
>>345026291
Started with demon's.
Again you will not get me to be mad. There is no argument here.
You are just wrong.
>>345020087
Minus the backstab fishing DaS 1 & 2 are superior to 3.
>>345018456
>Caring about PvP THIS much
Even the best players say it's not a competitive game.
>>345021775
>parryfags
No wonder the pvp is dead
>>345026406
Being this stupid and wrong should carry the death penalty.
>>345018456
I used to hate this thread but I'm slowly coming to love it. We'll se how it goes in the next few days.
DaS3>BB=DaS>DeS>>>>>>>>>DaS2
>>345026523
Your amount of mad just makes it funnier for me.
You are objectively wrong.
>>345018456
for pvp it's
1>3>2>DeS
>>345026598
I may change it up I have several copy pastas I've made I might go back to posting a different one, we'll see.
>>345026203
Das1 babbies are mentally ill. 2 and 3 are better, even before the DLC, which widens the gap even more.
>>345018456
>DS2
>want to pvp
>only thing worth doing is the bell covenant
>DS3
>want to pvp
>hang around the crucifixion woods for wild times
>hang around aldia's loft for fun clusterfucks
>>345026996
DaS1 is better than 2.
3 I hope has great dlc.
BB fucking killed it with the dlc.
Even though das2 is the worst I have to admit the DLC was the best content. It still didn't save it from being the worst souls game but it was a lot better than the main game. If only the dlc could've fixed the core combat and all the small problems.
Other than the lack of Blue Orb, I like DS3's online better. The forest and the cathedral are much more interesting defense areas than the belfries.
If the DLC works in a Sin system, that would be cool.
Maybe even a visible value.
>>345026996
>pre DLC 2
>better than anything
vanilla ds2 was my biggest gaming letdown since banjo nuts and bolts, but at least nuts and bolts was sort of fun
>>345027134
>only thing worth doing is the bell covenant
>never mind the other areas, I won't acknowledge their existence otherwise my argument goes down the toilet
>>345019910
>Every day to punish DS3 babbies for spamming DS2 sucks for the past few months.
What's wrong with spamming facts? DaS2 is the worst game in the series
Dark Souls 1
>Firelink
>Gank forest
>Poison swamp
>Catacombs
>Demon Ruins
>Anor Londo
>Archives
>Kiln
Dark Souls 3
>Firelink
>Gank forest
>Poison swamp
>Catacombs
>Demon Ruins
>Literally Anor Londo
>Archives
>Kiln
>>345019910
You have a complex. People were shitting on DS2 even before DS3 was announced.
>>345027318
did you even get invasion orbs in 2? and what did you even get for killing people as reds or blues other than nothing?
the iron keep entrance was an okay pvp area, but 3 made online fights hectic fun.
>>345027531
Anyone capable of forming their own opinion will say that 2 is the best. Only memelords and children think otherwise.
>>345018456
cause pvp sucks.
what we need is arenas.
5v5 10v10 3v3.
pvp is boring for me and i never liked pvp in ds.
you either get an amputated retard with ungraded gear or an elite 1HK faggot.
that's without counting hackers.
>>345021775
>Give me one good reason why you aren't just invading the high wall and wrecking shitters all day.
because my set-up is not good for PvP, plus I don't know what's a good bigass weapon to use for PvP
>>345027638
what were the "good" areas in dark souls 2?not counting dlc areas because they were obviously the finished areas in the game
>>345027675
I have played all the Souls games. 2 can fuck off and die
>>345022312
how's soul memeory treating ya? did the late patched gaping asshole ring actually make pvp playable or are invasions still deader than DeS?
>>345027675
anyone capable of forming their own opinion comes to the conclusion that 2 was the least finished and most poorly handled souls game that they tried to save with dlc that shits all over the rest of the game.
the few people that say otherwise are contrarian /v/ posters.
Is dark souls 3 really that bad?
I've completed demon's souls, dark souls, bloodborne and loved them all to death, with bloodborne being my personal favorite, but I've held out on getting dark souls 3 because of the mixed reviews
>>345028182
Not as good as 1, better than 2. Pyromancy is still tied to faith and int for some shit reason. firekeeper a cute.rev up that estoc
>>345028182
ignore what the contratians on /v/ say. They act like DS2 is good now even though just a year ago everyone here hated it.
3 is a lot of fun and even though a lot of areas are similar to the first game, they have all been extremely reworked so as to not feel stale. The game is also quite fast paced and the art style is similar to bloodborne. A lot of the bosses also remind me of bloodborne.
>>345028182
It's not. It's pretty good, it's just /v/ hosting the usual spergs in any game, Souls games just attracts some really vocal ones. The fact that they compare the just-released game to a finished game with DLC included should hint you.
>>345028182
It is sort of like a mix between BB and dark souls 1.
I think if you like the slower games like DaS2 or Lords of the Fallen you won't like das3.
But if you like BB I think you will love it.
The levels are more linear but as a trade for that it has the best bosses in the series.
Personally I like that trade but I do understand why so many people prefer good level design with bad bosses.
When the fuck is the dlc coming for 3? I can't believe they're taking this long.
>>345028182
>Is dark souls 3 really that bad?
No. It's just the 2 fanboys trying to force a "Zelda cycle" meme
>>345028550
Isn't that a good thing? I hope they spend more time polishing shit.
I would love DaS1 with a year more dev time.
>>345027801
Lost Bastille
Iron Keep (inb4 hurr floating lava castle)
Brightstone Cove Tseldora (and thematically speaking it's really cool)
Drangleic Castle
Those are genuinely good levels
>>345028550
it's been like 3 months, the dlc for 2 took forever
>>345028694
>Iron Keep (inb4 hurr floating lava castle)
except it was
>>345028709
>the dlc for 2 took forever
and was still shit.
>>345028540
The level progression is more linear, but the levels themselves are really good. DS2 had a lot of simple levels which was disappointing. I like these games because of their level structure.
Stop. Stop right the fuck now.
No matter how much you faggots try to force it, DS3 is objectively superior to DS2. If your complaints just boil down to PVP then you are playing souls for the wrong reason.
>>345028694
brightstone cove is pretty for a whole 3 seconds before it turns to ugly boring shit.
lost bastille is the only genuinely good level you posted, and even that has weird design flaws that make no sense.
>>345028694
>Iron Keep (inb4 hurr floating lava castle)
But wasn't that what it was?
You can't just put "hurr" in front of arguments and that magically makes them not valid.
>>345028694
>Iron Keep
>>345028550
Miyazaki confirmed that it will be around Autumn, they are still working in it. TOH got announced almost a month before its release.
>>345028764
I thought the dlc was pretty good. I recently suffered through the main game again just so I could get to the cool dlc areas again. They were what the base levels in 2 SHOULD HAVE been
>>345028964
>They were what the base levels in 2 SHOULD HAVE been
Sunken King was fucking bullshit.
Can't say for the others since I never bought them
>>345028694
Brightstone cove was only interesting in the area before the boss fight.
Iron Keep was an awful lot of corridors with enemies making up for level structure
Lost Bastille and Drangleic I'm willing to agree.
The only ones defending DaS2 are asshurt mustards
>>345029092
sunken king was pretty fun, that was the aztec looking level right? I really liked exploring the pyramid though I'm sad the first boss was a rehash.
>>345029171
I think PC is objectively the best platform and even I think DaS2 was shit.
Mustards have two other better souls games. Why would they praise das2? Its not like console gamers don't have das2
Just started playing DaS, first playthrough, does the game revolve around grinding souls for bolts/firebombs to cheese shit like Black Knight in Undead Burg or will I eventually git gud to the point where I can 1v1 enemies like him properly. Is there s proper way to play this game? Not used to genre, only played RTS and survival horror games before this.
>>345029171
why would they be asshurt? 3 is also on pc.
>>345029092
Sunken King was only fun the first time.
Iron King was full of the infamous "room crammed with enemies", even if the level design was interesting
Ivory King had interesting level design (weather change) but the enemies and aesthetic were boring, and it has easily the worst optional area in the whole game.
>>345029209
it was some underwater place that was full of narrow corridors, shits that were invincible, shits that resisted everything I threw at it, Dragon Asses with teeth in an area where your movement was gimped.
Never got to a boss
>>345018456
>no full red or blue eye orb
>forced to farm cracked orbs in either PvE or the tryhard arena
>invasions are pretty much non-existant until the late game because of this
>soul memory
>can't heal aside from miracles
>invasion timer
It's a shame because I enjoy the actual PvP combat, but the invasion mechanics themselves are shit
>>345029319
No, you aren't meant to farm souls for bombs and you'll soon run out of vendors who sell them anyway. the black knight is a character most players are supposed to go back to and fight later.
just play carefully and naturally and don't put points into resistance
>>345029383
invincible? the only tough enemies i remember were the baby dragons, and you can just run by those pretty easily when they're not facing you
>>345028886
just because it doesn't make sense from a world design standpoint doesn't mean it's not a good area
>>345029470
Ah, okay, Vit and End seem to be the most worthwhile stats to put souls into so that's what I've been focusing on.
>>345029603
there were enemies you had to destroy a statue to make them mortal
>>345029609
As an area it is just okay.
The middle with the bridges is sort of fun.
>>345019280
OP doesn't even complain about the game being hard
>>345029092
>Sunken King was fucking bullshit.
Nah, you just suck at the game.
>>345029717
How is that invincible? Just destroy the statues like you said.
>>345029864
Not an argument
>>345030018
It is when you were able to go through the entire game and somehow still not be able to understand how to approach encounters for a DLC.
>>345029717
And those statues take 1 hit, use your legs
>>345028764
>>345028886
And what does that have to do in relation to the quality of the level itself?
>>345029717
oh yeah, they were easy once you figured out you have to break their gravestones
>>345029973
except the statues are hidden and the monsters are between you and the statues.
>>345030109
>It is when you were able to go through the entire game and somehow still not be able to understand how to approach encounters for a DLC.
except all the tactics I did in the main game did not work for the DLC
>>345030365
It is a pretty bad an uninspired level.
It is like a level in a mario game. The fire level.
>>345029609
from a world design and story standpoint it's fanfiction tier.
from a gameplay standpoint it's "kite the enemies: the level"
>>345029717
Can also be hurt with elemental damage in that state.
>>345030512
>hidden
>the first time you see one the enemy has his back turned and is staring right at it
>second time it's an entire room filled with those statues against the walls
>hidden
