>mfw I have a 960
>mfw 960 shitting on 780ti AND Titan
>mfw nvidia gimps previous gen
>mfw maxwell is next
I don't have an appropriate picture for this.
>own a 780
fuck me never again
>>345009591
>people still claim the nvidia downgrade meme isn't real
>>345009663
its gong to happen to the 980, 1080 and so on.
mfw i bought 3.5 meme at launch
>>345009591
Just notice, jesus christ, what is effectively a 7850 is now beating a GTX 780 Ti
>PS4 GPU literally faster than a 780Ti
1080 and 980Ti are still the kings.
780 Ti and I still am mad that I have to pick between two evils now, with how garbage AMD is and how Nvidia is guaranteed to keep gimping older gens.
The fact that rolling back to drivers from over a year ago gave me a massive performance boost in many games including Arma 3 really says a lot.
Why the fuck did Voodoo have to die ;_;
>>345009591
Will the 1070 get this boost as well?
>>345011143
No.
Nvidia's OpenGL support was always nearly on par with their D3D support, so there isn't a big performance delta with them between OpenGL and Vulkan. They also don't have the same large branch compute hardware that AMD does to make use of heavy async.
>7970 now punches THREE TIERS above its weightclass
>A near-5 year old GPU outperforms a top-of-the-line GPU from 2013.
>An overclocked version of it is within spitting distance of a top-tier GPU from 2014
Will Tahiti ever be stopped?
>>345011376
Mfw i just bought one.
>>345009663
>>345009670
>>345009787
Kepler is now legacy arch for Nvidia. Give it another year and Maxwell will stop receiving the love in performance uplifts as well.
>>345011383
It was one of the most balls to the wall GPUs ever design at the time, the poster child for why VLIW5/4 could be phased out in favor of a compute oriented architecture. The crowning jewel of the Southern Islands.
The RX 480 still out performs it handedly clock per clock, but it doesn't have the same charm. Tahiti is the Sandy Bridge i5 2500k of GPUs.
Is Vulcan better or what?
>>345011778
For AMD and Maxwell/Pascal Nvidia? Yes
For Kepler and below Nvidia? No.
>>345011778
Vulkan is better than OpenGL for everyone, but much better relatively for AMD.
>>345011143
>>345011376
Of course it will you fucking retards.
>>345011928
>tech illiterate retard has no idea what hes talking about
What a shock.
Nvidia cards won't see the same tremendous uplift from Vulkan because their OpenGL support was never lacking.
>>345011893
>Vulkan is better than OpenGL for everyone
Anon...
>>345009591
>mfw nvidia gimps previous gen
It has been proven by big magazines in the past that Nvidia isn't gimping old gens for shit so stop that shit you double nigger
The difference is that AMD can get more out of their GPUs in the long run thanks to their disgusting drivers compared to Nvidia which gets a lot of 'em out at the start
>>345009591
>laughing sluts.jpg
I'll be using my r9 290 until it catches fire, then I'll get an RX 1090 or whatever GPU they'll have 10+ years from now.
>>345012118
Do you realize the 960 is a low midcard range card that is demolishing an extremely high tier card from just the gen before?
>>345012326
That's because unlike AMD, Nvidia wasn't looking towards the future when they designed the Kepler architecture.
They had to play catch-up with Maxwell, and we're just now seeing the results.
>>345012250
Same but with gtx 760. I have hundreds of games on my backlog.. don't really give a shit about the new ones it can't handle.
>>345012118
big magazines also proved that the twin towers and building 7 all fell down on their own from fire, but that doesn't mean it's the case
Nvidia just stops giving a shit about their older cards past a certain point and stops supporting them. That's how you end up with a 960 outperforming a 780ti by about 30%
>>345012051
It will get the same boost as the 1080 which is huge. Kill yourself AMD shill.
my 7870 has no benchmarks ;_;
>mfw got a new 7950 for 160 bucks.
>mfw the OP.
Can use it to defrost shit too, stop giving jews your money.
>>345009591
I have a r9 380x. Did i fuck up?
>>345012839
7870 is slightly more powerful than an R7 370.
>>345012852
The 380x trades blows with the 280x in a lot of games, so depending on the games you play, you might have.
>>345012821
>calling me an AMD shill for pointing out that Nvidia always had OpenGL support on point
Tech illiterate retard, the 1080 didn't get any real boost, about 2fps is all.
Try not to be such a child.
>>345012821
>which is huge.
see
>>345012080
It's literally a 2 FPS difference, which is within the margin of error.
>>345013005
>almost on par with a fucking titan
H-how much time does the 980 ti have?
When i use Vulkan on doom with my 280x the fps tanks.
>>345013236
>>345012839
Almost twice the performance.
>>345009591
Not seeing the r9 390 on there which is a shame.
>>345011928
No. AMD has gigantic gains because their hardware was designed for low-level APIs.
>inb4 nvidia gameworks for vulkan
>mfw i have an R9 290 and both Vulkan and DX12 are the future
>mfw i didn't buy into the memevidia meme
>Buy your dream car.
>Lovely machine, great performance, can ride it and cruise around in it for hours, can overtake almost anybody on the road.
>manufacturer or service center tinkers with it while servicing.
>they limit its acceleration and lower the limiter on the engine, lowering the top speed.
>without your consent or any logical reason for doing so.
THEY LITERALLY SAWED THE END OFF A CARD AND PRESENTED IT AS ANOTHER PEOPLE.
>>345014315
>>345014254
I hope Vulkan takes off much faster than DX12.
I have no real interest in Windows 10.
280x results.
>>345014315
>>345014445
LOOK AT THIS SHIT.
>>345014625
are those wood screws again?
>>345014589
>more than double the performance
Are you fucking kidding me? I own a 280X!
>>345009591
>mfw my 7870 is now in the neighborhood of a Titan
>>345014589
i've had windows 10 for a long time now and to be quite fucking honest i don't understand the hate at all.
also, sadly vulkan will never even be close to DX12, on the good side they are both variants of Mantle so AMD will always have an advantage.
would now be a good time to buy a used 970 or 980 off ebay? Since all the richfags are hopping onto the 1080 train surely it'd be a good time.
>Buy AMD GPU
>Never have to change it in your lifetime because every new API brings a +100% FPS boost
The future's bright for us AMDudes.
Not regretting getting my 390 at all now.
>>345014748
>wood screws
#neverforget
does vulkan offer anything visually that opengl doesn't?
>>345015085
No.
>>345014948
i don't hate win 10 or anything but fuck man why are they forcing me install it when i clearly don't want it
>>345015085
Better framerate.
>>345015085
not currently but it could given its nature of being closer to the metal and more programmable
>>345014969
>used 970 or 980
No.
Not at all.
>>345014969
No. There is no longer a reason to get a 900 series card, unless for free.
>>345009591
>buy 280x, it's on par with/slightly weaker than a 770
>now it shits all over a Titan and almost reaches a 970
AMD hardware really does age like wine
>>345009591
Lol a 200$ AMD card coming within 20% of 700 dollar nvidia cards
Full damage control GO
>>345015180
why would any company try to force you their newest shit?
it's always money and telling everyone that they have the biggest share of the market and all that bullcrap.
i don't like it or dislike it, i've had it for a long time and it works.... as it should i guess.
forcing DX12 on it is a pretty cheap move though.
>>345012080
>>345013162
What's this then?
>>345014748
You know, you can't tell a woodscrew from just the socket.
>>345015934
A result showing that their Vulkan 1080 gets the same performance as gamegpu's OGL 1080.
>>345016089
Why are the OGL results different?
To be fair Nvidia did just release another driver today, probably in response to the Vulkan benchmarks.
>he fell for the memevidia meme
>>345009591
>buy 7950 in 2012
>faster than 580 by 15%
>few months pass and it's overtaken by the 670
>driver updates and its on par with 670
>upgrade to 780 and forget about 7950
>look at it in 2016
>faster than 670, 680, 770, 780 and titan
What was the point of upgrading?
>>345016279
I wonder what visual effects it disables to improve performance
>>345015551
I bought 290 two years ago, senpai. It's good to be AMDrone.
>>345015551
Two kinds of phillosophy, instant power with GTX at a price or more stable and gap closing over time with AMD.
I'm a bit stuck, I have a 750 ti, do I go for a 1070 or wait for what AMD has on the horizon?
>>345016330
Getting jewed by nvidia
>>345016330
sorry but moving to nvidia is never considered an upgrade
>>345009591
>480 is faster than 290X
nooooooo, my Hawaii hidden potential
>>345009591
>tfw still running a 560 Ti
So should I get a 960 or what?
>>345016572
AMD doesn't care about high end anymore.
>>345016607
the hidden potential is well shown in OP's picture...
>>345016756
You should get a card that isn't shit.
>>345016330
>rx480 will be faster than 1080 in a year
>>345016607
The 290X was originally competing with the GTX 780, look where the 780 is now on that chart
>>345017059
shieeeeeet
Now unlike the ruskies and gamersnexus, ze germans tested with tssaa (all oither forms of AA disable async compute) and look at these results.
Are there any setting in DOOM that interfere with Vulkan? I get 10 fps compared to 50 with GL.
Using a 280X
>>345017209
>all oither forms of AA disable async compute
Who could be behind this?
>>345017209
Is this still not a good boost? I'm comparing the graphs side by side and the numbers are doing my head in.
>>345017429
id have said they are woking on getting the other forms of AA working with async compute in a future update.
>>345017209
>(all oither forms of AA disable async compute)
so they run a new API and disable all the features that take advantage of the new API?
>>345013886
R9 390 performs the same/a little under a RX 480 which on par with Nvidias 970.
The 390X is a few FPS more than the Rx 480 in most games and usually beats the 970.
>>345017517
Nobody can give solid numbers as the game has no benchmark - people are simply testing off the save files they have. The main point of that particular chart is the raping the fury x gives to everything else.
For AMD enabling vulkan gives a huge boost, if you aslo enable async compute you get an even bigger boost. Nvidia cards are either seeing regressions or margin of error improvements.
>>345017605
Strictly speaking if you enable tssaa on GCN cards you gain performance and improve image quality.
>>345016765
High end is a fraction of the market, no reason to cater to the needs of the few when you can make dosh by appeasing the many with minimal R&D.
Also AMD has been doing this for a long time now with Processors too, if they can't compete on the high end no reason to spend a shit ton of cash only to come second in a two player race.
>>345009591
>tfw 770
help
>>345017362
>>345017209
I just tried this (using TSAA). My fps on ultra is now 60-100 fps on a 280x.
I had to turn everything down to medium before to even get close to 60.
>>345009591
Can someone please explain to me the logic behind going SLI instead of waiting a year for a newer, better card to come out?
If I'm not mistaken 90% of games don't give a shit about your second GPU
My old ass 7970 is shitting all over a GTX960 and a GTX Titan
>>345009591
>Buy the best 980ti in existance
>already sub 144 fps on Ultra for brand new games
Why live?
>>345017995
Having more money than sense.
>>345017985
Post screencap with benchmarks, now.
>>345017995
It really only makes sense if you've got tons of money to burn, play games at a very high resolutions (4K and 5K) and you already have the fastest single card out
>>345017995
I suppose if you buy one card and then buy the second a much later date for cheap you can get a performance boost.
SLI/XF should be a lot better under DX12 and Vulkan.
>>345018026
>tfw i remember all those titan threads making fun of AMD poorfags
>tfw the titan is fighting to stay up to a 7950
this is an unholy amount of REKT
The best part about this whole thing is that Doom should be just the first of many games like this. Vulkan and DirectX 12 both reduce the importance of drivers significantly which has historically been AMD's weak suite.
>>345017995
High End GPU's are already an extremely niche market, more people own the 150-250$ cards than anything else
If you have a niche customer base who are already completely retarded, why not sell them the exact same thing they already have for double the money?
And thus SLI was born
>>345018370
Anyone who bought a tahiti or a hawaii card - especially early on - is left laughing now. These cards are punching way above their weight in DX12 games and are several generations old. A 7970 is what, 4 years old? The 290x is nearly 3 years old and is now competing close to a 980ti in most DX12 games.
>>345018603
The 7970 will be 5 years old in December.
Fucking half a decade.
>>345018601
>And thus SLI was born
I've always been on NVIDIA, but i'm glad this is happening.
They need to get pushed hard, just like Intel does, to get back on track and not get lazy and overjewish.
>>345018794
Even more amusing in doom's case is vulkan doesn't work on 2gb Nvidia cards. Bethesda's own faq lists them as unsupported (they make special note of the 690). All fanboys laughing at AMD was being stupid for putting more memory on tahiti than small kepler sure turned out wrong (and have been wrong for quite a while).
>tfw 7950
So, when was NVIDIA planning to introduce this async compute thing?
How come AMD had it 5 years ago and NVIDIA still doesn't?
How many games will use Vulkan? Witcher 3 Vulkan support when?
>>345019127
Doubt it'll get it, I mean, CDPR is already balls deep in developing Cyberpunk.
Also, shouldn't DirectX 12 give the same results as Vulkan when properly used?
>>345019114
Nvidia probably does this to keep things under control. In low level API, when done properly, the card operates at it's fullest potential, in a situation like this Nvidia can't gimp the card because the optimization is in the hands of the developer themselves. Now with this half-assed solution they have right now, they can easily gimp Maxwell and even Pascal.
They said AMD was crazy for rehashing the same architecture for 5 years.
Now who's crazy?
>3dmark timespy now live
Even synthetic benchmarks are giving Nvidia theb eatdown
>>345019114
>So, when was NVIDIA planning to introduce this async compute thing?
It doesn't work like that due to how Nvidia's architecture is designed. They already keep their chips well saturated (AMD struggles with this) so async does nothing for them. Hell it sometimes incurs a slight penalty as the gpu has to turn async commands into regular ones the gpu can use.
>How come AMD had it 5 years ago and NVIDIA still doesn't?
AMD bet ahead on compute in general becoming important (as historically its been part of a gpu that sits very idle) and it looks like they bet right.
Always bet on duke.
>>345019356
So, they haven't introduced that shit because they couldn't gimp cards otherwise?
Fuck this, i'm jumping ship, i'll get the best cooled 480 there is in September or something, doubt my 960 will last much longer.
>>345019114
Nvidia will introduce it on Volta next year. AMD has had it for years because of their with with APUs especially the PS4 and Xbox One. Consoles generally need to be designed to offer as much performance as possible for their cost, these customers won't be upgrading GPUs in 1 year. Nvidia has a different design philosophy and knows that for the sake of marketing, they only need their cards to be good for about a year as they'll be able to push the illusion that Nvidia is better. After a year you're expected to upgrade to the next Nvidia card.
>>345019316
>Also, shouldn't DirectX 12 give the same results as Vulkan when properly used?
it's all based on Mantle so i'm guessing it should be relatively similar.
>>345019078
Oh yeah brother.
Poorfag with a i3 6100 here, is DirectX 12 good for people like me with mediocre CPU?
>>345017020
Looks like they're all shit
>>345019497
Did they finally fix RotTR's DX12?
>>345019660
The shittier the cpu, the bigger the gains (in theory).
>mfw dx12
>>345019515
>he bought a 960
I feel sorry for you.
>>345019660
Yes.
DX12 is good for everyone (but Nvidia, apparently).
>>345019778
This
It's why Sony and MS included such shitty CPUs in the PS4 and Xbox One, they both use APIs similar to DirectX 12 and Vulcan (with even less abstraction according to id, likely because they only need to support a single GPU arch)
>>345017059
>>345016872
I call bullshit on this test. 290X never drops below mid 110 with everything maxed(ultra, TSSAAx8) out. Maybe they used a reference card.
>>345019865
It was free in a local gaming forum.
Quite the upgrade from a Asus Mars GTX 760 which went into throttling after reaching 60º
>>345019969
Whatever man, the point is that the 290X is absolutely destroying the GTX 780 which was the fastest Nvidia card out when it released.
>>345009767
me too anon, i'm never going to update drivers again.
>>345019969
Which CPU?
>>345019794
>Those spikes
I'm scared, what does it mean?
>>345019748
Yups - as of the latest patch (which also enables async compute) AMD now outperforms Nvidia in the game.
>>345019794
You do realise at the very least that quantum break data is flatout wrong right? Its in relation to how FCAT (or presentmon, I forget which) was reading data and AMD's implementation of DirectFlip. In fact AMD fixed that errant behaviour for fcat/presentmon in the next driver.
Either way the software was reading the frametime wrong. Plus i've noticed you didn't include the Nvidia results from when that chart was made, which show the same pattern.
>>345020059
it sure does. but all things considered it should be faster than 480. Well, stock 480, AIBs already said they can bring it to 1.6ghz
>>345020097
overclocked 4670, but it doesn't max it out, it gets stuck at 4ghz and 80% utilization
>>345019995
>Asus Mars GTX 760
Well shit, that's even worse.
>>345020102
He's shitposting.
>>345020212
Not really, the Asus Mars GTX 760 X2 was basically two GTX 760 cores in one card, like the GTX 690.
Problem is, it was broken or something, so the moment it went higher than 60º, it started throttling until I rebooted.
The fact that the 960 simply worked was already quite an upgrade.
>780
>>345017732
Ah thanks.
>>345017801
Admittedly I'm less interested in the results Vulkan gives in regards to AMD cards but DX 12 since isn't part of it using AMD's mantle code or the like?
>>345020310
>Kepler
>good
Having two chips doesn't necessarily make it good. Just look at this shit.
>>345018069
buy nvidias new 1080 card for maximum performance until next year :^)
>>345020542
>4 8-pin connectors
jesus christ
>>345011383
>tfw i have a 7970
>That feel when crossfire RX 480 is beating the shit out of the GTX 1070 at 4k gaming for $100 less
>That feel when it's trading blows with a GTX 1080 at 4k gaming for $200 less
>>345020642
The only thing you'll have to upgrade is that SSD, it's gimped.
>>345020542
So, what's really powering all those connectors?
>>345020729
I'd need some evidence on the crossfire results, and research in to what to get.
>>345020642
Still have mine too. I love it. I don't plan on upgrading for a while longer. What will the next 7970 be?
>>345020130
Yes ;^)
I fight shilling with shilling. I got tired of actually putting effort into my posts, because it was mostly met with shilling, false beliefs and complete lies. People make claims and refuse to back them up, they cherrypick whatever data supports their beliefs and spout the same bullshit time after time.
>>345020776
A nuclear reactor.
>>345020776
Take a wild guess. Pic related.
>>345020642
Get other 8GB of RAM and you'll avoid issues in games with memory leaks.
>>345020729
>multi-GPU configurations
>ever
The numbers are good, they always seem good, but then comes the stuttering, and the support problems where the two cards give less performance than only one, or where games outright don't support multi-GPU configurations.
Just get a 490 if you need more power.
>>345019515
>So, they haven't introduced that shit because they couldn't gimp cards otherwise?
Yes. In Vulkan and Dx12, the driver optimization becomes drastically less relevant, which is why AMD gains so much performance. Drivers is the only control Nvidia has over the card's performance, by not having the hardware asynchronous scheduler, they still have some control over the hardware with their drivers.
Meanwhile with AMD, everyone is done in the hardware, so it squeezes as much from the hardware as possible.
>>345020828
>What will the next 7970 be?
Probably Navi or whatever arch AMD moves from that is the GCN successor.
>>345020760
I built this 4 years ago, SSD were expensive as fuck
>>345020539
>DX 12 since isn't part of it using AMD's mantle code or the like?
Parts of both vulkan and DX12 are borrowed from Mantle - how much is anyone's guess. However much it is the results are fairly clear - gains for Nvidia but huge gains for AMD.
>>345020843
Well at least this time you happen to run into another anon who knows what that particular chart is showing and why its bullshit.
>>345020963
Well, at least it'll force NVIDIA to stop fucking up old cards and start competing with AMD better.
So I should save some money and buy a RX 480 instead of a GTX 1080 or 980ti? It looks like I get much more performance per dollar.
>>345021182
If you could afford those two, just wait for the 490.
>>345021182
3rd party 480s should be pretty good
>>345021182
Game companies still use DX9 and DX11, the games out right now are heavily optimized for DX11, so if you want a card right the fuck NOW and have more money than sense, get a 1080.
>>345021182
Don't bother with the 980Ti now but it depends on what resolution you're playing at.
>>345020776
>>345020630
Looked into that shit when I was trying to ghetto something up with two power supplies and a 7950.
You can hook up as many power supplies together as you like, but only use one for the mobo connectors, the other PSUs for the hard drives or gfx cards or whatever.
You short two pins on the 24 pin connector to get the other power supply running or you can make a switch, or connect two wires it to the one that is actually connected to the motherboard so everything starts with one button, lots of solutions, end result is you can power a 2000 watt system with like 4 600 watt PSUs.
>>345021182
For straight up price vs performance the 480 basically annihilates everything that came before. Note that for months the R9 290 topped this chart as they were going for absurdly low prices.
>>345009591
>7970 rising from the ashes
Man what the fuck I'm all AMD now.
T-t-t-they'll release that driver right? Right?
>>345021182
Yeah, DX12 and Vulkan are great on AMD, but look up how many games will use it. Everything else is DX11 and nVidia is better there.
Decide for yourself.
>>345022070
ahahahahahaha
what the fuck is vulcan
>>345019969
>easter egg
>>345022070
The id FAQ says async compute is disabled on Nvidia cards in the game anyway so it's not relevant either way.
>>345009591
GTX 980
GTX 980 SLI
LITERALLY 0 IMPROVEMENT
>>345022854
Look at the date - that tweet is months old.
>>345022914
Thanks to shitty devs
>>345019114
AMD has it because AMD practically invented it
The canonical paper on it is written by someone at AMD and they built their hardware for it from the get go while Nvidia probably thought it wasn't going to be a big deal so they didn't bother to try to accommodate it.
>>345022651
one of the second generation gods on mount olympus that overthrew the titans, the first generation, vulcan was the god of smiths that made Zeus' thunderbolts
>tfw the only thing that can save us from pol is the return of dubs.
The 780 ti is embarrassing.
>>345021553
Yeah, I'm edging towards an rx 480, or 1070 imported from the US by a friend, or should I wait for 490?
>>345021182
I'm at the same impasse.
I always spend on a 300-400 dollar card
The 480 is nice but it's still budget to me.
I want the 490
Or whatever has HBM2 first.
>>345023441
>Nvidia probably thought it wasn't going to be a big deal
I don't think this is the case, I think they believed that it wouldn't matter right now any anyone who bought a card between 2013-2016 would just buy a new Nvidia card in 2017 and beyond that supports the feature.
This has been know for years.
You can buy Nvidia shit if you're a rich fuck that can afford a new high end GPU every year
Or you can buy AMD for the long haul if you're a normal person
>no 270x on the chart
G-guys what does that say about my GPU?
>tfw gtx 760
should have gone with 280x, which was for the same price at that time
>>345023674
The 480 is good for people who are in the 200-250 buck range
However if you want something in the 300-400 range, it's better to wait for the 490. Just a heads up it will likely shit on the 1070 in more ways than one so don't be surprised 2-3 years later.
As a someone building a rig for the first time will a amd give me 1080p 60fp performance that lasts more so than a nvidia?
I'm not a rich man by any mean, but willing to buy a good rig in the coming months.
>>345009591
Do people take the titanX out of this chart on purpose?
>>345009591
Is software going to be more important than hardware in the future? If shit like this drags me away from toaster status for another few years I'll be very happy.
>>345024242
>don't be surprised 2-3 years later.
It won't take 2-3 years this time as Vulkan and DirectX 12 are already out
>>345024114
>you must be a "rich fuck" to afford $500 a year
I think by "normal person" you mean "poor person".
>>345024510
Do you also buy a new TV every year? Or a new fridge? Or a new phone?
The point is consumer products are expected to last more than a couple of years, especially if we're talking about stuff that costs over $500.
Nvidia are borderline extortionists with their pricing schemes and gimping of old cards.
Also these prices go even higher if you're not American.
>>345009591
>had to choose between 970 and 390
>go with 390
>mfw it will be be better than a GTX 1280ti in 5 years time
time to be smug
>>345025947
>smug about being poor
lmao
>>345026140
>Poor
>$300+ GPU
Que?
>>345009591
Do the stronger cards even matter, monitors have their refresh rate capped at 30 frames per second.
>>345027939
Human eyes can't see past 24fps anyway - its why films (a much older and mature medium) are capped at that framerate.
>>345027889
>that you can't upgrade for 5 years
>>345028163
>niggers still spouting this shitless meme
1/10 for the effort
>>345009591
So, going by this chart, my 7870 should be around Titan levels, right? I can't find an appropriate reaction image for this, but it feels really good.
>>345024242
Well since I kept putting shit off for so long I actually now am in the 300-400 range.
I hear rumours the 490 may be out before 2017
>>345024510
I'm not loaded but I like my shit to last.
Now if there only were games worth giving a damn.
So as a Memecard owner how fucked am I? Not that I really care that much since I'm having backlog of older PC games (got a decent PC like year ago)
>>345031628
970 will last for as long as DX11 exists.
>>345031628
As a meme card owner, you were always fucked.
I got gtx960 2Gb
did i fuck up?
>>345032489
Yes.
>>345032025
Yea I know that but what can I really expect? Is my card gonna be trash bin filler in like a year or something?
>>345032574
I just didnt want 300W amd card when my psu is 550W
jfmsu
>>345032665
>Is my card gonna be trash bin filler in like a year or something?
When it floods the used market, you will know.
>>345032734
That's the only reason I didn't get a 390, at the time I didn't have a nice competent PSU.
>>345032734
>>345032991
Why the fuck did you both skimp on the PSU? It's one of the more important components in a PC. I'm not saying buy 1000w, but a decent 650w fully modular PSU would have been nice.
>>345033082
I bought my pc 5 years ago, I live in eastern europe where 15k/y is a decent wage and the electronics cost the same as amerilards, if euro and dollar were 1:1.
Also, I pay my electricity bills.
I get microstutter with vulkan on my 1080, and the framerate is roughly the same as opengl. Why use it? Why does nobody mention the microstutter?
>>345033280
>I pay my electricity bills
I thought you people had good infrastructure. Surely electricity is cheap.
>>345033418
Its not cheap if you have furnace capable of smelting shit instead of computer.
>>345024418
Yea I know amd will be throwing punches straight out of the gate now
>>345031292
>I'm not loaded but I like my shit to last.
Then amd is the only real choice. Well if the 490 is vega, it should come with hbm2. Which is nice. Even if it doesn't it will still outdo the 1070 with async compute.
I think it is vega because amd could have released the 490 as polaris along with the 480 if they intended it to be polaris.
>>345033082
It was when I was slowly piecing a computer together. I have the same 750ti I was using on a shitty unbranded grey PSU in a prebuilt.
Have an RMX 750 I got by RMA-ing a THX 650 which was even purchased by me.
>>345033625
Then I guess I'll be pushing my 750 ti through Desu Sex Memekind Divided then.
i have a 7970 and a 8350, but when I played the DooM demo I had to drop the fucking settings to med /low and use 75% res scaling for a decent frame rate, what in the actual fuck. it says 58 fps pre vulkan on fucking ultra
>>345033339
Turn off VSync.
Or just use OpenGL. Nvidia cards don't get a lot of benefit from Vulkan.
>>345033835
That 8350 is bottlenecking you.
>>345033418
>eastern europe
>good infrastructure
No.
>>345033929
I don't have it on - I'm using gsync.
>>345033835
>AMD CPU
Shouldn't have bought AMD CPU. Good thing Zen is coming which will finally bring AMD to Sandy Bridge IPC perf.
>tfw 950
How badly did I fuck up?
>>345034125
Very badly when you could have bought a 380 prior to 480 release.
>>345033965
seriously? I've always got fucked for FNV and Skyrim and shit because Gamebryo can't handle 8 core, but is the 7970 really that much better? that sucks
>>345034121
It's an 8350 Black Edition, it was like 130 bucks on sale and rated well, I was just trying to upgrade from some super dogshit cpu I put in this pc back when I originally made it for like 540 bucks.
>>345009591
In other news
>sli does nothing for nvidia cards
>crossfire lowers the fury x score
Seriously why do people even bother
>>345034273
The GPU is more than fine, it's the sandy bridge of GPUs, it's your CPU that's the problem. Even an i3 does better.
>>345033793
I'm still on my 760. HBM2 is important to me since I have a gut feeling scorpio will be using HBM2 late 2017. Then you think 2-3 years down the line and how devs tend to not optimize textures and shit and the wait will pay off. Nvidia has a terrible tendency to release shit with low vram to get people to upgrade. The 970 had 3.5, the 1060 has 6 and not 8 like the 480. So next will be the 1070 8 gb vs whatever the 490 has.
What reasons are there to pick Nvidia over AMD?
I'm planing on building a new PC soon but I'm still somewhat naive when it comes to a GPU
I've noticed that Nvidia seems to be what most people use and sometimes while I download an emulator they note radeon might have trouble
There's also that picture that shows AMD cpu + AMD gpu is "the worst you can possibly do".
I'm more likely to grab a 1060 when it comes out but I'm open to alternatives and I keep seeing Radeon suggested.
Please help /v/!
>>345034648
>I get my info from maymays
Stop being dumb, Miku.
>>345034648
>sometimes while I download an emulator they note radeon might have trouble
You'll have no problems emulating. Don't get AMD CPU + AMD GPU as you mentioned.
>>345012250
I'm gonna bite the bullet and get a 490 mainly because i have 144hz monitor. But fuck this card is epic best GPU i've ever owned .
>>345034648
There is none atm. Just impatience. If you want your card to last 3-4 years you go amd. I'm sure older dx11 games might run 5-10% better on nvidia's shit but the new cards run old games just fine. You should be looking at the future. And we already see how the 290 stacks against the 770 these days.
Though I've been using nvidia all my life. But after the 700 series, they really fucked shit up but had the majority and marketing. I also heard some people state they gimped fermi but I wasn't paying too much attention. Maybe it happened before but no one picked up on it. I also hate the fact that I was one of those people that worked against AMD. We could have had a better api like vulkan/dx12 years ago if the majority had amd. I wouldn't mind nvidia so much if they didn't keep shoving gameworks shit and clearly letting cards like the titan lose to a shitty old
>>345034467
Fine, but I can't keep holding off like this, I worry when 490 rears its head I'll just be all "Eh, I'll wait for it to drop in price a little". The eternal postponing.
>>345009591
Wooo looks like that gamble i made years ago to get a 290 is finally paying off.
>>345016756
Wait for the 1060
>>345009591
Why did Nvidia shit on the Titan so hard? God damn. Those 3D guys aren't going to be happy.
>>345035582
Instead of buying cards every year figure out the tech behind it first. Right now we are still stuck in DDR5 territory, HBM1 is expensive, DDR5X is meh, and HBM2 is already on the horizon. I'm waiting for a GPU that uses HBM2, and it looks like the high-end of Vega will use it.
>mfw bought a Sapphire Nitro 390X
>mfw didn't fall for memevidia goyforce meme
>>345035885
Too cheap to buy one like that but I do get your point, it's because I only a 750ti as something to slap in a prebuilt before getting back into it.
Saying that right now I'm emulating Zero Escape and happy enough.
I sure hope no one fell for the "1070 is future proof" meme
>290x
Yeah, this is good.
>>345034420
fug, whatever, I always kinda figured, the problem is I have dogshit ram too, so I'll have to replace both of htem to really notice it.
>>345035582
After the 490 it'll take a while for the next generation navi to pop up. As in a year +. At this point it's only a matter of months. If you're gonna be this shit for 3-4 years, I'm sure ensuring your shit will last takes priority over an impulse buy.
My 760 is pissing me off too and even more so since I see amds cards have gains while my card just gets worse and worse. I'm sure deus ex won't be too demanding I hope.
>>345035081
>>345035234
>>345035313
Thanks guys, I'll be sure to open my options to some radeon cards.
>got a 390X recently
I'm good for how long?
>>345017209
I'm playing with a 970. I'm getting about 80 FPS average with OGL and 60 with Vulkan. Vulkan also has baaad input lag and I can't get rid of it with any of the settings. CPU is i5 3470, 8gb ddr3, win7
the whole API thing is fucking mysterious. These benching websites are using the same test bed for every card so they probably aren't aware of the wild variation in results with the same GPU. I hope we get more big games with Vulkan so we can get some more data points. D44M's programming is just weird as hell anyway. Remember all the crashing at launch?
>>345034648
Nvidia is what you get when you want the best performance immediately at a slightly (to somewhat significantly) higher price. You gamble on how well it will work over time. The cards stay just as strong, but as new technologies may not get driver updates as needed by Nvidia to keep them as strong as they could be.
You get AMD if you want a card that will start off a bit mediocre, but will still consistent over time as AMD is forced to actually keep their drivers up to date to remain competitive.
It really just depends on your budget.
>>345037303
I just bought one really cheap as well. Assuming DX12 and Vulkan continue to be the norm.. I feel like for 1080p the 390X should be good for 3-4 years, maybe longer depending on the game.
I mean, the only thing that can't be maxed out is Witcher 3.. and we get games like that pretty rarely, and it can still be almost completely maxed for 60 fps with the 390X as it is.
Anyway, it's definitely way more future-proof than a 970 is. My plan though is to probably upgrade it once Navi launches, which is like 2018. HBM2 is definitely sounding like it's gonna be GOAT.
>>345037303
You done good 2bh.
>>345009591
>buy a 770 because R9 290s are impossible to find/ridiculously overpriced thanks to Bitcoin mining
>This happens
First and last time I ever buy an Nvidia GPU.
Is the 390 not on there because it performs that bad?
>game looks like shit
>under 50fps with a 780ti at 1080p
Justify this shit /v/.
>>345039158
A 390 will fall around the 480. Maybe a bit higher, maybe a bit lower.
