Breeding Season: Law and Ethics EDITION
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Let's keep talking about law, ethics and the possibility of some anons teaming up to make the next big western hentai game
http://s-purple.tumblr.com/post/147403501461/im-currently-putting-together-a-point-by-point
>>345006529
U-unless you're all done talking about it that is.
Is the game any good as is ?
Never touched it on purpose hoping it would be finished.
>>345006836
It's fun for the first hour or so but then it just gets repetitive. Doesn't help that the art's mediocre as fuck.
http://mylittledoxy.tumblr.com/post/147389677101/breeding-season-breeding-season-is-over-s-purple
Doxy wants that jew money
We have a statement from the kike now
http://s-purple.tumblr.com/post/147403501461/im-currently-putting-together-a-point-by-point
>>345007442
>Whoops I accidentally leaked Shwiggy's precious art assets again
what did he mean by this?
This shit is gonna be hilarious when it turns out that H-Bomb is the reason this whole project fails even if he got a new artist.
>>345007250
Fuck off doxy, you fucking jew. Some of us don't earn thousands of dollars each month and actually need this kind of job.
>>345007524
He pretty much was
>>345007856
I know, but judging by the crap people are posting, they're too naive to realize something bout H-Bomb's post doesn't sound right.
>>345007504
I'm open to hear his side. Though, it will have to be pretty damn good for me to overlook the fact that he essentially sabotaged Breeding Season, fucking over his former work mates.
I mean, even if he did plan on a clean break from the old project, why does he feel like it's ok to take all of their assets, not inform anyone else, and piggyback off the original concept? Why can't he come up with a new concept and new assets?
>>345007137
>the art's mediocre
that's not true
the animations are mediocre as fuck
and there isn't even a lot of them
there isn't even a lot of art
they never even completed one monster fully
>>345006529
>A game that was never going to get made gets cancelled
What a loss!
>>345007982
Cause he owns them? Even H-Bomb says this. Shwig literally owns the assets. It was part of their contract. There is absolutely no requirement for him to leave nor sell his assets.
>>345007250
>literally the biggest jew of the horsefucker community
>talking shit about milking projects
>>345006731
God this drama is delicious
>>345007504
>I'm didn't do this out of greed
>immediately drops plug for new patreon project using previous assets
>>345008089
Yeah, yeah, law and contracts and all that. We've been over this in the previous thread. Doesn't change the fact that those assets were drawn on Breeding Season's dime, for Breeding Season supporters. It was all for Breeding Season. The fact that he's making essentially the same game with some tweaks, is very very dubious.
>>345008312
What was the password?
>>345008372
The best fighting game ever, come on guys geez.
>tumblr drama queens publicly smearing the fuck out of each other
I think I'll just stay 1MA and learn art myself
>>345008458
...Ballz?
>>345008556
If you want it so much, just go to >>/aco/
And they say Patreon isn't another kind of scam.
At least it wouldnt be as bad as it is now if they used Kickstarter.
>the guy stole 190k and left!!!
>well the game is dead so i might as well also fuck off and live with my previous money that i've stole because i can't manage a 4 man project. oh and btw follow me on twitter so i can post another patreon link to steal your money <3 <3
>>345006836
Breeding your monsters together for increasing stats and trying to get all the best skills together in one monster line is fun.
Beyond that, there isn't really that much. Hell, most of the pairings don't have animations. And that's ignoring the Neonare and Furry variants, which have basically none.
>>345008368
Hes 100% in his right to. If you're asking why he can do it, its because he has legal precedent to.
Theres no reason why he should have to leave any of his work to someone else when he leaves. I can bet most people in a similar situation would do the same thing.
>>345008748
Someone change the password not even 5 minutes of it being given out in the /v/ threads
>>345008089
Not the person you replied to but here's what I think the main issue with what S-purple did is.
He chose to work on a separate project in absolute secret during his 'downtime' instead of letting his fellow coworkers know he was going to quit eventually. He wants to quit and pursue something else? That's completely fine, anon. What isn't fine is that he had always planned to leave the group and decided to abuse the fact that they allowed him downtime to work on a completely different game while also raking in the funds for Breeding Season during that downtime. The fucker was literally getting paid to do nothing for Breeding Season at that point was pocketing that cash until he decided to make his quitting public. It's absolutely disgusting. The biggest complaint about Breeding Season before all this drama was that they were making over 30k a month to do next to nothing. Now we find out that it's all because of this one guy. It doesn't matter what his reasons were... he was literally holding people back, getting paid to do absolutely nothing for THIS project during his 'downtime' and he knows it. There's no justification for it.
>>345008885
From his reply alone, he says he had no intention of collecting the money that was given to him for that month. So the argument that he was working on company dime doesn't hold water anymore.
>>345007504
Both sides are shitty as fuck.
>>345008550
>1MA
what does this abbreviation stand for?
>>345008774
>And they say Patreon isn't another kind of scam.
I don't give to any Patreon, but if the PAtreon is for a webcomic writer who actually deliver on schedule, then you get what you pay for.
>>345009065
one man army
>doxy acting like the jew that he is
Oh god that shit is hilarious.
>>345007504
>Oy vey goyim, I left because things didn't work for me, now pay me more as i will redo the exact bullshit with Meadow
>>345008832
The reason one wouldn't take assets from an old project would be a sense of respect for your formor co-workers. Camaraderie. Respect to your former(and potentially ongoing) supporters. Wanting the allow the old project a fighting chance in your absence.
I wouldn't expect a law obsessed jew to understand.
>>345008995
>From his reply alone, he says he had no intention of collecting the money
Not the anon, you are talking to, and I won't discuss the matter of whether or not he was actually going to do that, but it doesn't change the fact that it's still dishonest and he should have been upfront about it from the start.
>>345008995
>So the argument that he was working on company dime doesn't hold water anymore.
He was still payed to make art for the project, right?
Art he took back without returning the money, right?
>>345008995
He could've just refused that month's worth of payment.
>>345008995
A whole one month of not taking free shekels while working on your own project for who knows how many
wew what a hero
>>345008832
The dick move, though, was refusing to sell the assets so that he would tank the project others were still working on.
>>345009314
Considering that they clearly didn't part on good terms, what kind of comaraderie do you expect to be left?
Furthermore, thats naive as fuck.
>>345009314
>can't manage a project worth shit
>can't meet proper deadlines
>make up bullshit excuses
>underpay half your team just because you fucked up the contract with one person
>even the main animator agrees that you were a fuckwit
It's not like H-Bomb was very respected in the first place.
>>345007504
>there are people wishing him luck with the new scam
christo
>>345009384
Which is what it seems he was doing.
>>345009427
So long as it was on his free time and he was still doing work on the main game, it really doesn't matter.
>>345007504
>I didn’t do this out of spite, nor greed
>work behind your coworkers back on a secret project using art assets from the game you're working on
>>345008995
>>345008832
He says he has no intentions of collecting the money but still did so anyway for months? The graphics he made were made on Breeding Season's dime. He's only in the right because the contract made was shit. What he did wasn't fair professionally or morally... it's just one of those shitty legal clauses that gives him the right when he shouldn't have it. He should have given them advanced notice all that time so they could at least try to get a replacement before then, not just plan to tell them when he's done with his new project as he says. I mean, the man doesn't deny that they gave him downtime and all the kindness that the first post says, he only denies his reasoning for doing it. It looks more like he's just trying to save face to me, but that's just my opinion. That doesn't matter either way, whether it was good intentional or bad what he did wasn't fair to them or the backers.
Let me emphasis this
Whether it was done for good reasons or spite
It was not fair to anyone involved
coworkers
or backers
>>345007815
>>345008090
Is Doxy really a jew? What does he/she do?
>>345009665
That's why i don't like people.
>>345009732
>It's ok to fuck over my colleagues as long as I say I wasn't being greedy
>>345006529
so anybody know the story of s purple and how he cucked his friend
>>345009786
I mean, he is not a scammer, he just get a shitlot of money by making commissions and shit like that.
But at least he still DO the work.
Ok boys let's get it over with.
>Post yfw you didn't back this
>the things people will do for porn
>people actually supporting this scam
>jews coming out of the woodwork to pick up the burnt partreons, shilling on the blogspot
jesus fucking christ, what a shitshow
>>345009786
>earns thousands of dollars a month
>still wants to get in on that yiffer money
How is he not a jew?
>>345009917
Well, there is H-Bombs post over at the Breeding Season site. Though S-purple claims Hbomb's post is 'misleading' so we'll see what he has to say eventually.
>AKA Vladimir Sandler
Fucking rooskies. I just wanted to play the game without downloading it.
>>345010012
He doesn't follow the judaic religion nor is he of semitic religion?
You know you can be a con an not be jew, don't you?
Like I care.
I'm just gonna pirate the final product no matter who develops it.
Why do people love an artist so much that can't even draw fucking legs.
>>345009786
No he isn't. People just like to use the word jew everytime a money scam is invovled, for some reason.
>tfw I befriended Shwig a couple of years ago
>shot the shit regularly while he was in the JDF
>he becomes more and more distant as Breeding Season becomes more and more of a thing and he changes handles to S-Purple for some reason
>this shit goes down, ask him what the fuck
>he simply says it's none of my business and doesn't address it further
Fucking jews I swear to GOD. Filthy, vile beings with no sense of business or morals.
>>345010062
talking about how he cucked a friend and stole a girl who goes by bug dad on tumblr
>>345009974
>>345010193
Except there will never be a final product because none of these project are going to make it that far no matter how much money they're given
>>345010153
For fuck's sake m8 I was using the term in the most stereotypical of ways.
>>345009760
Theres no proof he was working on anything for months. And honestly, what he did was perfectly fine professionally since it was stated in his contract. Morally has really no justification here at all.
Secondly, people like you really should wait to hear more about this shit before making decisions. Even Vanilly basically points out that more problems were from H-bomb's lead than Shwig's.
Thirdly, is it suppose to be fair for them? Is it suppose to be unfair for the person who actually did the work? Should he suffer so everyone else doesn't? Cause this is the naive shit you're spouting here.
>>345010193
That's the thing. It may not happen at all.
>>345009974
>>345007504
He does not make much of a case for himself.
>>345010281
>for some reason
Don't lie, you know exactly why
>>345010302
>>shot the shit regularly while he was in the JDF
What?
>>345010281
In doxy's case its not from a money scam, just money really.
Tbh i don't have anything against Doxy, his art s good.
>>345010421
Considering he hasn't posted his counterpoints yet, thats a given.
>>345010313
Oh, my mistake, I'd quite like to hear about this too.
>>345009525
I find it funny that no one ever describes things that are wrong "naive". I always here it in the context that something is right, but supposedly unattainable, or not to be expected.
Even if he disagreed with the way something is being managed, that doesn't mean he should be so petty as to take all the assets away from the project. He should realize he fucked up by putting trust in H-Bomb. But he made those assets for the team regardless. He benefited from the Breeding season's brand regardless. And those assets were for the supporters regardless.
He should be able to set aside whatever petty disagreement he has, and allow the project to have a chance at survival.
But seeing as how he's making his own project that's nearly identical, it serves him monetarily if Breeding Season dies altogether. They're competition now.
>>345010460
Japan defense force
>>345009974
>>345009717
>Which is what it seems he was doing
Except he didn't. He says he didn't want to but still did. That's like Konami saying they didn't want to butcher a game by removing core things to make it DLC but doing it anyway when they did not have to. If it was a case like that you wouldn't be defending it.
>So long as it was on his free time and he was still doing work on the main game, it really doesn't matter.
Except during that free time he was directly undermining Breeding Season. He was planning to take all the assets with him and doesn't deny it. Why not just let them know? He could have given them advanced notice or done anything to make it easier for them but didn't. What he did do was make every possible decision that would screw them over, eliminating the competition. If a business man does nothing but scummy things but says he meant well do you still believe him? Why does S-purple get excused for this?
>>345009974
>thought people don't make jack shit off of drawing smut
>see that there's probably talented artists that make more a month than I do working in the health field
I wonder sometimes
>>345010460
Judging of Dicks Festival
>>345010352
>defending shwig and his shwigging ways
>>345009760
This.
Just because the guy got away with it legally doesn't mean it's something he should have done. It's an enormous dick move, he fucked over every single person involved with the project including the fans.
In a professional environment you NEVER burn bridges like this, it's insane to even think about it. I completely understand the salt coming from his ex-coworkers.
Shit like this is the reason why I'm afraid of these crowdfunded indie games. Nerdy weirdos tend to go fucking crazy once they get near a lot of money, and if a project gets lucky and explodes like this the chances of something stupid happen skyrocket.
>make tens of thousands per month to work on a single porn game
>a shit contract allows one person to disown the project entirely and put it all into their own project lead by them
>it all blows up and the reputation of both parties involved will probably prevent such a gigantic cash cow from ever happening again
i honestly don't care if either side is in the right, the drama of this whole thing is just amazing
>>345010281
I didn't get the "jews are greedy weasels" thing until I witnessed it myself.
>>345010521
guy had a friend who was with a girl. the girl cheated on him with purple and did a smear Campaign which caused him to be pushed back from the group who was working on a game. after this he deleted all his stuff and purple dated the girl for some time before leaving her thus making her go batshit.
>>345009974
>mfw i did back it
That's four bucks I'm never getting back.
>>345010510
If he'd left it as "I am acknowledging this issue and will respond to it later" I'd be more inclined to give him some faith but right now he's saying, "I didn't do this because I was greedy, but I did actively choose to sabotage my competing project and handle things very immaturely."
I'm not supporting either side but I can't imagine he's got a very strong argument for not just cutting himself loose entirely and letting Breeding Season burn itself to the ground.
>>345009974
>Let's spam the thread with a bunch of shitposts.
No thanks.
You're no better than a roll image.
>>345010528
Because letting yourself get fucked over for the moral highground is the very definition of naive.
You're stating that you want the project to succeed, but thats bullshit too. If you wanted the project to succeed, it shouldn't matter if its under new management or not, so long as it gets done.
But here you are, bitching about morality because of what? You feel slighted? Whats the actual reason you're bitching about this?
>>345010747
>I completely understand the salt coming from his ex-coworkers.
You mean the project manager who both devs who've commented agreed was a complete idiot anyways?
>>345010423
Because it has been a popular mem for several cenuries to blame jew when money scandale emmerge and pretned they are in control of the big industry, even though most of the big money are actually WASP and the jew in powers actually are a very small portion of the jew population, whose most are normal people like you and me.
Do you really thing that Simon, local grossery man in Tel-aviv has any control on the world or even his own Israel government seriously?
No Seriously. Even if all the people in position of power were actually Jew, it would still be minimal compared to the total Jew population and they would be as fucked as you and me.
People who use the word jew are just too lazy to google the actual name of the people who actually control things.
>>345006529
Can you fuck that loli?
If not then I dont care about this furry gay shit.
>>345009974
>Quitting a sweet gig making $9000 a month in Patreon bucks over some management issues
Why would you even care at this point? People work much shittier jobs with terrible managers for a fraction of that much money.
I'm playing Breeding Season 7.7.2 right now, and when I get too many fuck things, I can't select any and it gets annoying.
>>345006529
Is breeding season good? Is it free? Is it similiar to CoC?
>>345011027
>yfw you grow a huge dick and rape your sister with it
>>345010861
Did you just back it for a month to get a download? There were people paying $5, $10, even $20 a month.
>>345006529
>everything on the left
What the fuck is this art direction they just threw WoW shit in a game about fucking farm animals
>>345011024
No, you can't fuck any of the loli in this game
Wait a minute, what if H-Bomb was told by shwig to do exactly what he did to the contract? What if shwig planned it from the start to get all the money like the filthy israeli he is?
H-Bomb was shit on making the contract, but it's would explain a whole lot more
>>345010012
He actually delivers.
If jews delivered, then we wouldn't be calling them jews, we'd be calling them "like us" because we all work for a living, kid.
>>345010808
there is greedy weasels from everywhere.
You don't know what greedy weasel is up until you have dealt with Chinese.
>>345009974
>>345011138
Pretty much. I ran out of disposable income and went back to waiting for people to drop links in /hgg/
>>345011202
If he was planning to do that, he would have waited till the project was almost done. Bailing this early really isn't beneficial.
>>345009974
>>345010349
Well, that's the problem.
Anyone got any of the debug codes?
Also how far in do you have to get to view them having sex, Already got some animals, gave them milk and had them mate, just the menu stuff.
>>345009974
>>345011167
>You can fuck all sorts of monsters
>A loli? Why would you want to fuck a loli?! Are you some kind of pedo freak?!!!
>>345011019
Everyone thinks their PM is an idiot. It doesn't fucking matter either way, if he was an idiot there are ways to handle that that don't involve destroying the business and fucking over thousands of fans. If he wanted to make the game better it is almost definitely easier to fix the flaws in the current one than to create something new from the ground up with an entirely new team. Obviously I don't know the specifics but it definitely sounds like this guy just decided he wanted to be the president and took his chance to destroy his competition out of greed rather than anything else.
>>345011356
Why are you so upset about it? Are you a jew?
Show me your nose.
>>345006731
>>345007504
>ever trusting a jew
I came into this thread to say
>some anons teaming up to make the next big western hentai game
will never happen, but none of you are even talking about that, so it looks like there's no need
>>345011020
>getting this bent out of shape at someone calling someone a Jew for being a giant weasel
Yo calm down. Why are you sudenly trying to be so contrarian against everyone on /v/?
If you're really triggered this easily may I suggest shifting to reddit?
>>345010969
>Made 190k over the course of development
>Fucked over
Your definition of getting fucked over is naive. He was getting paid to draw. He didn't get fucked. He was simply unsatisfied with the management of the project.
> If you wanted the project to succeed, it shouldn't matter if its under new management or not, so long as it gets done.
??? That's a curve ball. I have no idea what you're talking about. Are you saing "you" as in me? Or "you" as in H-Bomb? Or "you" as in S-Purple?
>You feel slighted? Whats the actual reason you're bitching about this?
I'm lost. I'm having a discussion. Not bitching. You're the one taking the conversation down to that level by accusing me of bitching, and calling me naive. Also, how could I feel slighted, when I didn't even contribute to the project in any way?
i guess he wasnt making enough money from breeding season and strumpets, so he had to go into maximum overjew to not only kill the competition but also kill his and Hbombs reputation, if Hbomb had any left.
now with the top grossing furfag game dead, people paying due to the art assets will surely flock over to the one who made the art, unless someone superior in art and efficiently capable than I "Shwigy" Diggy Doo saves breeding season, but with HBomb's slow ass programming for THREE YEARS and not enough to show for it, it is over, its dead and done.
>>345011410
You're making a massive assumption that the problems are fixable. Look at >>345011354 Vanilly points out that many of the problems with the project are due to H-Bomb's leadership and laziness.
If the problems that have to be fixed is the one who owns the project, how do you fix it if he has no intention on fixing himself?
>>345010352
>Theres no proof he was working on anything for months.
He doesn't deny it on his post. He only says the H-bomb was being misleading and he didn't do any of the things he said out of spite. Do you people have trouble reading? The man is not denying doing any of these things because screenshots were posted to prevent him from lying. All he's doing now is arguing the point of why he did said things, his excuse being for the sake of the project... despite tanking it all by himself.
>And honestly, what he did was perfectly fine professionally since it was stated in his contract. Morally has really no justification here at all
H-Bomb makes a shit contract so it's fine to do all the morally wrong things because it was perfectly legal. Aren't there movies or TV show plots where the antagonist are business men who abuse contract wordings or the fact that the MC is super excited and doesn't read it to be able to do whatever they want? It's legally right, morally wrong. If he doesn't have respect for his ex-coworkers at least respect the fans who poured money into Breeding Season.
>Secondly, people like you really should wait to hear more about this shit before making decisions.
I did wait for S-purple's post before saying anything. He doesn't deny doing any of the things H-bomb said he did. He only denies doing it out of spite. He's justifying his reasons for doing it. Read reasons above ^
>Even Vanilly basically points out that more problems were from H-bomb's lead than Shwig's
Then why not announce he was leaving in advanced instead of undermining the project in secret? Whatever the other coworkers say they still aren't siding with him and refuse to continue because of him. They're only saying that H-bomb wasn't an angel and I don't deny that.
>>345011079
The whole shindig would have fell apart anyway since Vanilly was doing most of the work and she put in a resignation.
>>345011210
tl;dr
>>345011024
You probably could have had the game gotten anywhere. She at least had a sex scene with a clam. Now, we have nothing.
>>345011596
>strumpets
He's not doing the art for that though.
>>345011705
Don't work with the chinese, they are worst jews than the jews.
>>345011371
The only reason you can't fuck the loli is because it wasnever animated
>>345011679
Was she a programmer or an artist?
I wonder if we would support purps if Hbomb was actually jewish.
>>345011610
She also points out the lack of art direction, which is all on the greedy jew's part, so both are to blame but Schwig is still the biggest and greediest faggot.
>the other honest coworkers caught up in this mismanagement shitshow AND lose a gigantic cashcow
>they likely didn't have nearly as much exposure and therefore whatever they go on to do might not have the same following
F
>>345010912
Whats wrong anon? Backers remorse?
>>345010521
>>345010840
this is what it said about the matter.
>>345009974
>>345006529
Why are people even upset about a mediocre flash game dying.
The art sucked ass the animation was trash and it was just plain shit game play wise
Games like this were made for free years ago
>>345011775
Artist and also the main animator.
Am I the only one who doesn't give a fuck about all of this? I'll just play/pirate/whever Schwig's new game, and I'll be on my merry way.
>>345011761
Really? Everything I know about the chinese(practically nothing), is that they're far more in your face when it comes to ripping you off. While Jews are far more sneaky.
>>345010912
but roll is cute anon
>>345011891
>gender pronouns
>trans
>>345011990
Just read at least the first posts of the pic.
>>345011747
whos to say that hes not under a different alias
his artstyle is easily distingushable,
>>345007504
Shwig you're a fucking tool and a buffoon for trying to take the moral high ground with this. You left your team mates in the fucking dark because of poor, shitty judgment that you clearly put no fucking effort into correcting.
Your followers are fucking tools for even trusting you in doing this when nothing you make has ever finished up properly. H-Bomb being a shitty manager is one thing and you being a shitty team player is another. If you had any amount of self respect you would just completely drop this charade and work on something else entirely.
>>345009974
>>345011594
He got paid to work on the project under a contract that said he owned what he made. You're being naive to suggest he should ignore his own project and give up said work.
I'm saying you as in you. I have no fucking idea how you can misunderstand that.
You're here complaining that Shwig took his stuff and left when theres no reason for him to leave it. Your only justification for so is that its 'morally' right. I'm calling you naive because.. frankly? Thats what you're being. If you were in a similar situation, giving up your work to someone you disagree with so they can profit off of it is frankly a stupid decision. One which generally comes back and harms you. Furthermore, you state that its only fair if Breeding Season is finished. Which as I said before, if all you care about is the project being finished, then an ownership change shouldn't matter.
I kind of want to give Shwig the benefit of the doubt because I sort of know the guy.
It does look pretty damning whichever way you look at it though.
>>345011887
1. Ew, that image is gross.
2. I didn't back the project. I just hate these posts that ask for reaction images, because it adds zero to the thread, while wasting posts.
>>345011354
Why the fuck was Vanily doing Schwig's job when he was supposed to be head of art.
>>345012025
>trans
It's trans latinx, shitlord.
>>345011969
>Schwig's new game
>game
>>345007250
>>345007815
>>345009786
>doxy
Call him by his true name: Onta
Shit like this is why he changed his name in the first place, to get a "fresh start" and get rid of his old reputation
>>345012081
I did. Not much to get out of the first post. Realized I was in for a ride. Jumped out.
>>345010352
>Thirdly, is it suppose to be fair for them? Is it suppose to be unfair for the person who actually did the work? Should he suffer so everyone else doesn't? Cause this is the naive shit you're spouting here.
They worked along side him and did their own part as well. He just took his stuff away when he could have notified them all that time he was working on the other project. Again, nobody is telling him to suffer. Is your brain just shutting down every time you read the hundreds of posts saying the exact same thing? We're saying that if he was going to quit he should have let them know from the get go. It wasn't fair to them or the backers that he was trying to keep it a secret for whoever the fuck knows how long. It's also not fair to the backers that he used the attract to take back the work THEY paid him to do. I understand the contract said he could but he knows it was wrong, we know it's unfair. If the contract was properly done he wouldn't be able to do it. He's only in the 'right' because the contract was shittily made and everyone is agreeing on that. Even the people defending him aren't saying the contract is fair, only that he's legally in the right to do so.
It's obvious what he's doing is fucked up. You're just a fanboy defending an artist you like and blocking out the truth. Again, he literally did not deny doing any of the scummy things they said he did. He only justifies it by saying he had just reasons instead of spiteful ones. That is the whole situation.
>One man starts to swim out of pool as party drowns in freak pool party retardation.
That bastard, how dare he leave the pool and not drown with the rest!
>>345011204
>because we all work for a living, kid
You work for my living, kid.
>>345012141
Let people have fun man.
>>345012240
>shitlord
Excuse me sir, it's transshitlord, shitlord.
>>345011476
>>345011572
Blue eyes blond hair Caucasian nose. Some Vikings might have fucked several of my ancestor.
I guess I can convince you that it's morally wrong to make this kind of generalisation (what is moral, after all?), but I hope you can actually take this argument here.
By blaming everything on some nameless entity we actually ignore the actual individual behind the mess that are regularly caused. The whole issue of a scapegoat (and its actual purpose) is that the real perpetrator get away with it. And you don't nail them by blaming a population who is, in the first place very vaguely defined. You actually identify the fuckers, and rgardless of their origin or religion (hat they probably don't acar about in the first place), try to put an halt to their missaction. but blaming them just because they are jew is missing the whole actual point.
>Yo calm down. Why are you sudenly trying to be so contrarian against everyone on /v/?
Don't know. I usually ignore the Jew slander and put it on the usual LoL racist /v/, but this, I don't know. Maybe it was the Jew too much.
Myabe its because every time a jew is behind some shaddy business, people never fail to mention it, but even when there is no jew, oh, well, let's say he is Jew anyway. As if only the Jew scammed people.
>>345011356
>trying to forum slide 4CHAN of all places
Piss off, Goldberg.
>>345012247
his tumblr is literally mylittledoxy
his patreon is literally doxydoo
on his patreon page:
>Hello my name is Doxy and I make a living through my art.
>>345012270
It just tells that the chinese will backstab and lie to you face every on possible opportunity.
>>345010912
It's always bound to happen
>>345011990
>s that they're far more in your face when it comes to ripping you off. While Jews are far more sneaky.
The only reason they are is because they know they can get away with it with basically no issue.
Jew have to be more sneaky because they used to be burned if people complained to much about them.
I'm kind of tired of the mess already. I hope spurple posts his counterpoints soon so we can have one more big jewsplosion before it dies down.
>>345012242
Its all a scam really since his first stretch goal is 9000 to happen to pay a three man team and i'm real curious who these other two members are. Most patreons start low with goals and work their way up to hiring extra people, Not just flop out a 9000 goal dick on the table.
>>345012136
>If you were in a similar situation, giving up your work to someone you disagree with so they can profit off of it is frankly a stupid decision
Except Shwig was also profiting off of it during development. The crux of all of this is that one of the things holding Breeding Season back is Shwig having a stranglehold on the assets and a perfectionist mentality that made him constantly go back, redo and add a whole bunch of superfluous style changes. Allowing him that much leeway is the biggest mistake H-Bomb did.
Shwig has no concept of restraint. That is poor game development. At some point you have to stop, and he failed to do that.
>>345012136
>He got paid to work on the project under a contract that said he owned what he made. You're being naive to suggest he should ignore his own project and give up said work.
>Falls back on law
See? I can't have this conversation with you, because you're law obsessed. You literally have no ability to reason your way around basic ideas like respect and human decency.
>this thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYX2pmXe14U
>>345012247
His "old" rep? Nigga he still draws gay furshit.
>>345012149
well, that's the issue, isn't it?
>>345012349
More like
>asshole pulls the drain plug and runs out with it and refuses to give it back
>>345006529
>next big western hentai game
There was one before?
>>345012585
>The crux of all of this is that one of the things holding Breeding Season back is Shwig having a stranglehold on the assets and a perfectionist mentality that made him constantly go back, redo and add a whole bunch of superfluous style changes.
Doesn't matter much considering that they still got literally fuckall done once they found a style that stuck.
Can someone post TL;DR version of what the fuck is going on with this game?
>>345012361
Enjoy the welfare life, conscript.
>>345012503
It didn't become a thing until relatively recent.
>>345012136
>You're being naive to suggest he should ignore his own project and give up said work.
Not the anon you are talking to, but he was not requested to give it up but to sell it. And he asked for his asset to be removed, literally killing the project.
What he did was simply killing the concurrency.
>already broke $100
he's going to get away with it
>>345012729
tl;dr with jews you lose.
>>345012729
Its dead Jim, enough said.
>game still not out
>guy gets tired still working on same game
Its funny that anyone thinks that anyone other then purple was working if the game still isn't out yet and he has enough time to fart out art at IBS levels.
>>345012690
That russian loli porn game with a really hard to spell name was really good.
>>345012468
He's got a bunch of pseudonyms to attract different demographics.
>>345012729
In short:
>Schwig was in charge of the art in Breeding Season
>His contract stated he has 100% ownership of the art
>He used this to pull all the art with him to his new project
>This effectively killed Breeding Season and enraged H-Bomb, the guy in charge
>>345011610
>>If the problems that have to be fixed is the one who owns the project, how do you fix it if he has no intention on fixing himself?
I don't know anon, does "destroy the project" sound like a reasonable solution to that question?
Knowing the kind of logistical issues involved with assembling a new team from scratch, spinning up an entirely new project, etc., I can't imagine that this was really the path of least resistance. There are ways of convincing your boss that he's wrong. Clearly the people involved had some negotiating power considering the contracts we're discussing. It would have been just as effective to come to his boss and say "look, if this doesn't ship up I'm going to take my assets and fuck off." He didn't do that. He just walked.
Granted if it comes out that this was the only reasonable solution and every other avenue of resolution was tried and failed, then that makes sense. But as it stands it looks fucking crazy and absolutely immature.
I do feel for Vanilly though. Especially that issue with contract/employee, that shit is rough.
What do I need to use to just view the .fla files? I downloaded adobe animator, but it was useless.
>>345012729
The two head honchos of a smut game; artist and programmer, managed to outjew themselves - the programmer through incompetence and the artist through being an unfathomable dickhead.
>>345012926
Download Adobe Flash, Animator dropped programming support.
>>345012386
>writing Fucking paragraphs about how we're being unfair by using the word Jew
Have you ever thought about becoming a comedian?
>the possibility of some anons teaming up to make the next big western hentai game
I'm already working on it, senpai.
>mfw this whole ordeal has me drawing porn again
thanks for your donation to my productivity patrons
>>345006529
Where can I download this
>>345012332
>Let me emphasis this
Whether it was done for good reasons or spite
It was not fair to anyone involved
coworkers
or backers
You're implying it should only be unfair to the artist.
Furthermore, if they did their own work, that means there should be more to the project than just his artwork. In fact it should be easy to replace his work by hiring a new artist. However, if you look at what Vanilly says, that paints an entirely different picture.
You've put H-Bomb on a pedestal and are ignoring all of his own failings to follow the scapegoating he provided.
I'm defending him because of dumbshits like you who can't see that something about this shit seems off.
>>345012386
I don't know m8, you sound like a fucking jew to me.Post your crooked fucking nose right the fuck now, you cunt!
>>345013048
>get asked a question
>answer to it
I am studying to become an engineer.
>>345012937
This is why management and editors are important in any creative process.
"Artists" of any time be it of code or smut are huge divas and need to be smacked around like a gundam pilot anytime they think they are anything more then what they are.
>>345012454
Which is why his opinion is not relevant and he still doesn't pay his employees, and he still aggressively DMCAs anyone who talks shit, and he still revokes access to paying customers if he finds out they are talking shit. The fact that he went out of his way to profit off of ponyshit is just evidence of his bad personality.
People remember him as a furry faggot and a drama queen, but they don't remember him as a scheming and very lazy Jew.
>>345012901
>>345012819
>>345012816
>>345012937
Well shit...
Thanks for the info tho
>>345012729
You have a bunch of lazy greedy hacks who are also petty and hateful working together and you get this.
So I am suppose to hate some artist jew when breeding season devs are just lazy and unmotivated furfags, who more or less con'd buncha other stupid furfags with patreon, from a forum for lazy unmotivated furfag gamedevs to post their dead projects?
Reminds me of the Yogsfaggots who gave an artist 35K who fucked off after two weeks.
Now he works at Disney or some shit.
>>345013069
post your shit
>>345013069
Where does that gesture come from exactly? I never gave it much thought before. But it is such a strange gesture to make. Seeing it in real life makes me think this guy is a gigantic pretentious asshole.
>>345009974
>>345006731
>he bitches and moans about how mismanaged it was and how it was never going to deliver
>meanwhile the leaked repository is full of stupid fucking bullshit ideas he drew that don't fit the game at all and all that time could have been spent actually working on the game
>>345006529
I am honestly happy it got canned. I mean the original idea was great but then they change it to pander to furries and started to remove all the good fetishes. Game turned into vanilla trash for normies.
So glad the artist fucked them up. If you are reading this you did a good job.
That artist guy fucking the game in the ground that hard.
Does he really expect people to give him money for his litteral clone ?
Maybe he had every right to do what he did but i'm pretty sure any supporter of breeding season won't jump to this next project of his, they will probably spread hate on it instead desu.
>>345012594
And you're morality obsessed, as if morality has any purpose in a situation like this.
can you really blame these devs for the shit they pull? no one buys porn games even if they did go about it the legit way
if you made these games would you do the honest thing and make a complete product to sell? fuck no because it would get pirated on the day of release
these jews are just the symptom of your own jewery
>>345013174
Where do you think we are? Facebook? I make a point of never posting my face online.
>>345013136
this
>>345013215
>and he still aggressively DMCAs anyone who talks shit, and he still revokes access to paying customers if he finds out they are talking shit.
What?
>>345013187
Did you mean to post memegineer?
>>345013314
It wasn't always a furry game?
>>345012857
Animation is time consuming work, and shwig changed designs and artstyles twice causing them to redo everything at least twice
>>345012789
Giving it up for money is still giving it up. Hes not required to sell it either.
>>345013358
Morality always has purpose.
>>345013339
>Does he really expect people to give him money for his litteral clone ?
He does and they already are.
>>345013267
Yes
because we /pol/ now!
>>345013303
i want to repe dat pepe
>>345013210
Problem was that according to H-Bomb, Shwig was vehemently against the idea. I imagine the reason it didn't happen was because H wanted to avoid a situation that would force Shwig to leave, only for him to later learn that Shwig was already in the process of fucking over the entire thing in the first place.
I didn't back it, but I am really sad. This shit got me diamonds. When they stopped updating the version that you could play on the web browser, I got cautious. I don't download h-games, part because I'm a macfag who's too dumb to bootcamp and part because it just seems silly. I was already bummed out when they said the web browser would have to wait until they launched their website which was at some unknown amount of time.
I will miss breading season.
>>345013373
I'm asking for your nose, not your face. Then again if you're a jew they're pretty much the same thing.
>>345011850
Games are supposed to have pipelines, and if the earlier people don't do their part then the later people are sitting there doing nothing. This can mean the art team sitting there jerking off waiting for some word. There's really no telling at this point who is mostly responsible for this fuck up, but it's also likely these fucks didn't set up a good pipeline for years, if ever. Which would go a long ways to explain the situation in my eyes, that it wasn't any one person cheating the project, it was a series of incompetence where they aren't following a schedule and can't figure out what to do next.
>>345012907
It doesn't. Which says to me that it was the only viable course of action.
Lot of people are claiming Shwig Jewed out, but honestly put some thought into it.
As you say, putting a new project together from scratch and paying for it out of pocket is a lot harder and more money intensive than just keeping up with it
So what does this tell us? It says that the only recourse from keeping the project from failing entirely is to just leave and start it again anew. Which suggests the problem couldn't be resolved otherwise.
>>345013136
Okay, now that I'm seeing more of things to come. S-Purple still fucked up in some regard, but all in all it looks like no one's a saint here. I should have known better honestly.
>>345013364
And yet the Japanese manage to make enough money to warrant sequels to their porn.
It's almost as if you have to work hard instead of whining in order to succeed.
>>345013267
No, you're supposed to get irrationally irritated at the idea that other people want you to get angry at a person, when in reality no one gives a shit what you think.
>>345007504
>I also wanted to say that my new project: Cloud Meadow was not made to simply steal the profits of Breeding Season for myself, but to actually save what I could of the Breeding Season Project, and deliver on the spirit of the promises made by the project.
>"I didn't do it for myself, I did it FOR YOU"
If he wanted, he could have just quit and started a new project. He went out of his way to gut Breeding Season because it's competition to his new project.
I'm glad Breeding Season is dead, but this is going to be an even bigger scam and it's just pathetic that methods like this get used to get the upper hand in fucking yiff game development of all things. That guy was well off doing art for BS but he fucked the people who allowed him to have that kind of income in the first place over just because he wanted that little bit more.
>>345013464
That's what happens when you don't place a manager or editor in charge of your artist.
Like no joke, artists are moody little shits.
>>345012729
>Programmer puts together a point-and-click spreadsheet game half a decade ago
>Literally no one cares
>Suddenly a good artist shows up, says he'll do the art and makes a contract with the programmer
>Fast forward three years and $500k later
>The programming and game in general has barely advanced (the current state of the game shouldn't have taken three months, much less three years. No, S-Purple starting over has no effect on this, learn2placeholders)
>Artist has scrapped all progress twice
>Animator quit over workload
>Suddenly artist realizes that the past three years have been an unethical waste of time since they milked $500k out of donors who magically couldn't see that the game had been dead for years now
>Pulls out
>Gets called the bad guy by the programmer, a guy who hasn't worked a single day over the past three years outside of code maintenance, a guy who has been living off the artist's work for three straight years despite contributing not even a tenth of the work, a guy who immediately closed his patreon when he realized that without S-Purple he literally had NOTHING
>Programmer doesn't even try to hire a new artist or manager because he knows he doesn't have the programming substance to actually keep the milktrain rolling
>>345013467
>Giving it up for money is still giving it up.
No, it's called selling.
>>345013726
>but all in all it looks like no one's a saint here
The rest of the team might be incompetent but Schwig is a fucking asshole.
>>345006529
mmm
>>345013739
Different markets.
I doubt many Japanese games have sold much in the west at all.
>>345013424
No? I don't know what that is.
>>345013553
>Hiring an artist without someone to keep them in line
H-bomb has himself to blame.
Hell, H-bomb needed someone managing himself as well.
I think the funniest meme at the end of the day is that spurp wants to be making the same exact money he was making with breeding season while "he is calling the shots"
he basically seems to have no notion of consequence and would like that as many backers and other artists that he dicked off; for him to basically be able to say:
hey, I draw pixel tiddies, I'm a GOD; why should I have to deal with moral consequences or any social conventions?
Nig, you were allowed to keep your art and get your petty revenge; just drop it and make a new project.
Don't pull a mighty number 9; just fucking drop it.
>>345013739
you can't really compare the western scene to japan. in japan porn is a commercial product that's acceptable to buy socially, paypal wont even let you sell your porn here
>>345013726
Fucking finally. Shwig is no saint, and I know a lot of fault rests with him too. But most of the flak hes getting is unjustified. He didn't kill the project. The project was already dead.
>>345013815
>furry
>giant tits and cocks
it's irremediably shit.
>>345012386
This a million times! Just sick of tired of the obnoxious /pol and /b/ memes on here, but the blame goes to the meaningless mods on here as they rather enforce some rules over other, if someone posts a pony that when they go into action but when I reprot any /pol/ pics they leave it alone. AT this moment the mods are locking my report button like they did yesterday .
>>345013768
this
Just play actually good games. Lurk a bit and you'll find them.
>>345013973
I agree. I also think it could have been good.
>>345013815
>No Antgirl
>>345013875
The demand was high enough to warrant an English DLsite.
>>345013815
was this the first meme porn?
So wait, is the reason why this was getting maybe monthly updates is because the artist was being a bitch and working on his project instead of breeding season?
And his justification was because Breeding Season would never take off? When he has a lot of blame on that because he was working on his own project?
>>345013690
This. People are bitching at him for not staying on the project for easy money because they think it would mean the project would eventually get done. But I've been in that situation before where you are sitting there and things just aren't moving with that team, so your options are stay and keep putting out the same argument to the people you're working with who don't want to listen or leave and do your own thing.
>>345013581
Want to know the truth? I don't have a webcame, and I am too lazy to move my ass from my chair to pick my phone, take a picxture of my nose, find the USB cable and hook it up, and edit the picture to hide my face.
