Did Skyrim do anything right?
it looked pretty good if you replaced every model and texture made by bethesda and applied an ENB to it
>>345003929
The motherfucking music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga8KbMcUfm8
>>345003929
The lizards and cats.
>>345003929
it created memes
>>345003929
mods extending its longevity despite hardly any could fix the shitty base game.
Music, atmosphere, comfy factor
>>345004353
This.
If there's one thing Bethesda did right, it was the music.
Character design, music and provided a base for what could be considered the best Werewolf game evermodded
>>345003929
it made people realize how good oblivion is
>>345003929
No.
Just a shitty SJW flavor of the month game.
>>345005220
How is Skyrim SJW?
>>345004562
They could have still been done better. But they were still at least okay.
It's an amazing medieval fantasy porn framework.
It madeStealth Archerymuch more fun than Oblivion.
>>345005220
What the fuck are you on about, nigger?
Let me sum up 90% of the replies
>it had really good graphicsSkyrim's graphics are garbage, console shitters.
>>345005394
If Mountain Blade Butterlord lives up to the hype the devs are spinning about modability then it may get dethroned.
>>345005568
That would require the right people to get interested though.
The music was great as always. And the shouts were cool too.
the flexibility presented on the character development was fucking amazing
>music
>sense of exploration was usually quite good
Other than that, not much.
>>345005485
>>345005324
>the cats and lizards are totally oppressed despite no one ever saying anything bad about them Dx !!!
>women can be warriors too guyzzzz
>queen rules xD gurl power
Ringing any bells?
It wasfun
>>345005808
aren't the black elves "oppressed" too
>>345005808
Wow
What pisses me off about Skyrim is that it could have been so good, just like Oblivion
But no, once again Bethesda avoided the modicum of effort it would have taken to make the game superb, like a proper civil war or actually interesting landscape, and by doing so, missed out on anything that could have given the game character
>>345003929
Music (although this is equally good in the other TES games)
Graphics (although modded Oblivion and even Morrowind approach the same level of prettiness)
Also the best looking beast races, but that isn't saying much.
Overall Skyrim can be a comfy camping/survival simulator when fully modded and that's it, it doesn't compare to Oblivion or Morrowind and no mods can fix the shitty quests, writing, and main story.
Races looked good, music was alright, and exploring the nordic setting was nice for awhile.
>>345005808
nice b8, you'll get some people. Here's a (you)
>>345003929
The trailer was pretty hype
https://youtu.be/JSRtYpNRoN0
>>345003929
not really, I felt it was a step back in many ways. no interesting quests, fewer gameplay mechanics, practically every quest is "go to this dungeon full of draugur and kill everything inside", terrible looping hallway dungeon design. sure, there's a lot of content, but what does it matter when it's all the same
>>345005940
>ELVES ARE OPRESSED REEEE!!!!!
>literally only one situation when there's any conflict about it, and it's in Solitude (the fucking capital of Skyrim of all places)
>other than that there's NO visible racism anywhere
>>345005808
>the cats and lizards are totally oppressed despite no one ever saying anything bad about them Dx !!!
Except they do.
>women can be warriors too guyzzzz
That's almost every game
>queen rules xD gurl power
No, no it doesn't.
>>345005808
Except there's an entire city that doesn't allow Argonians or cats in it, and is trying to remove elves.
Except women warriors have been in ES since it ran on fucking DOS.
Except the queen isn't even respected and only in power because of ultimogeniture laws.
Did you even play it??
The remaster looks unbelievable. Just look at remade High Hrothgar.
When Bethesda said they were doing a remaster of Skyrim, I thought it was just minor HD enhancements.
No, they're actually remaking this gem from scratch. The game looks entirely different, and it's going to be amazing to replay it.
Bethesda knows what they're doing. Their marketing tactics are stellar.
Instead of announcing Elder Scrolls VI right away, they decided to reflect back on what had already worked for them in the past.
And I am definitely going to buy the Skyrim remaster. I mean, if you love epic role playing games like this, why wouldn't you?
The Skyrim remaster is going to feel like a fresh new game.
I'll go as far as to say that the Skyrim Special Edition has the potential to become one of the very best games of this gen. Skyrim gains new fans every day, and it's a timeless experience
>>345006216
i said black elves
>>345006287
Todd, please go.
>>345006303
And it was a situation about dark elves.
>>345005220
"dunmer refugees are innocent and dindu nothing! And if you don't want them you are a Nord supremist bigot!!"
Wow you're right.
>>345006245
>>345006235
>>345006109
>>345005984
Neck yourselves, cucks.
Can't wait for Trump to win so you all drink bleach.
>>345005694
So show the right people the qoutes from the devs about working on the game from the ground up to be moddable while show casing some of the more ambitious and technical mods that the game allows for? Fuck, I'd rather just shitpost at loverslab.
>>345006410
What did he mean by this?
>>345006410
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting anon
>>345006287
DON'T OVERDO IT TODD!
>>345006410
>>345006451
How does one neck themself?
>>345006235
>Except they do
Proofs?
>>345006287
as much as this is obviously someone pretending to be a marketeer the only reason skyrim is still being played is the mods , if those can't be ported into the enhanced edition i doubt many people will make the switch
>>345006346
you dont know about winterhold??
Sound, music, visual design.
If they hired some goddamn writers and designers who weren't shit then they would make good games.
>>345006216
You are aware there's an entire city where Nords are trying to remove all dark elves and Ulfric willfully ignores it, right.
>>345006506
There's a reason neither species are allowed inside most cities, anon.
>>345003929
Art style
Everything else about the game was garbage and only people who never played RPGs in their lives disagree.
>>345003929
It did most things right, which is why so many people like the game.
The million little problems are a bummer though.
>>345006551
I still can't get over the fact that someone got paid for Thieves guild quest line. How do you even write something like that.
I'm going to sound like a massive faggot for saying this, butI liked the perk system. I think it's better than dumping points constantly into stats, but the actual bonuses the perks gave were ass.
>>345006506
Nord merchants constantly talk shit about cat caravans.
Lizards and cats aren't allowed in Windhelm.
There's an entire dialogue section with a girl in Whiterun that talks about cats not being able to root themselves in one area because towns deny them home decree.
You would know this if you actually played it.
>>345003929
Provided a decent bit of crap for modders to actually make into a decent game
>>345006410
>drink bleach
You gave yourself away with that one. Only leddit fags use that line.
>>345006828
arent khajiits not allowed in any cities??
>>345006785Stats/skills should determine passive bonuses. Perks should allow you to do new things.
>>345006659
Problem was even as an action game it gets boring fast. Fanmodding aside, the real strength it had was, like most sandboxes, the fun of just running in a direction and seeing what you find as your little handmade 'avatar'.
>>345006785
It's okayyyyy with a mod like SPERG or Ordinator, even then I'm mad that they removed classes and attributes. Gainig character level progress after increasing ANY skill was stupid, endgame made you a jack of all stats, master of everything.
>>345005808
+
>gay marriage for everyone you cis scum xD
>>345003929
I did find it pretty enjoyable. But here's what I don't get: why are the graphics so fucked up? I can't tell if it's just my TV or not, but the whole game has this weird, grayish/brown coloration that often makes it difficult to distinguish things from one another.
>>345006874
But there were no ids during Christmas??
Was a poltard so butthurt he f12 edited in ids to make it look like a false flag? Jesus Christ.
>>345005694
Warband already has Shadow of Twisted Time and its sequels for sex mods.
>>345004353
Nowhere near as comfy as Oblivion.
>>345007143
Skyrim doesn't compare to Oblivion at all, but that's not the point of this thread.
>>345006738
That was the only good one. The mage school shit and the warriors stuff sucked hard. They at least tried with the thieves guild. The assassins guild wasn't bad either
>>345007116
It's a cap from doubleschan. If you-know-who is shilling there, it's not unreasonable to assume they're shilling here as well.
>>345007143
I swear comfy is just a term for nostalgia goggles.
>>345006287
Good goyim, keep them shekels coming
>>345006659
I feel like the only person who hated the artstyle. The races, mostly the human ones, became hard to distinguish. Maybe I'm dumb, but I had a hard time telling the Nords, Imperials and Bretons apart. Also, in my opinion they made the Argonians and Orcs look too beast-like. I don't really care if that's how they're "supposed" to look: in Morrowind and Oblivion, they looked more innocent and likable. In Skyrim they made them look straight up like scary beasts, it dehumanizes them a bit.
>>345003929
Sex mods.
But Honey Select is coming so it doesn't matter anymore.
>>345006874
Nice pic tard, but there were no IDs on /v/ back in December. A /pol/lack clearly got buttblasted reading the thread and either shooped or devcon'd it.
>>345006410
I didn't know bait knew how to type. Anyways here's your (You)
>>345003929
Sound design was top notch. Every sound effect was perfect.
>>345005030
More like made people forget how bad Oblivion is just to be contrarian hipsters.typographical error
>>345003929
The empire is the European Union.
Skyrim are the Germanic/Scandinavian people.
Elves are muslims
Khajit are Gypsies
Argonians are niggers
Skyrim wants to secede from the Empire due to all those immigrants. And because they know the Elves are brewing some cult religious shit to kill all humans (white people).
But they don't realize that that is actually part of the Elves plan to eventually destroy the (white mans) empire.
Just like in real life with for example the UK seceding from the EU.
>mfw Skyrim is right-wing gospel.
>>345003929
It birthed /tesg/, so that's something.
>>345007206
No It's not, they didn't even try.
http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=14422
I know the guy who wrote is a massive prick but holy shit, if it's not an eye opener that the whole plot is the most laughable attempt that Bethesda ever had with a quest line.
>>345007632
OP asked if skyrim did anything right, not wrong.
/tesg/ is a cancer-infested pit of waifufaggotry, you get more actual TES game discussion on fucking /b/ compared to /tesg/.
>>345007726
but theres lots of discussion in tesg
What I hated was that at the end of dungeons, there was always a path right to the beginning again. It ruined immersion so fucking hard. Made it feel like all that work was for nothing.
In Morrowind it was fine. You get all the way to the end, then you use a scroll of divine or almsivi intervention to transport out. That way, the dungeon still feels very deep and isolated, but you can still get out easily.
>>345007726
But its so comfy!
music was phenomenal. The world was comfy too. Though not as comfy as oblivion's world
>>345005808
wow... you're so wise bro...fuck... I never thought of it like that before...
Not sure why but I really liked the khajit voice acting
The races probably looked the best they ever have (yeah, Khajiits and Argonians could've had beast legs, but they still look better than in Morrowind).
The music is on point
Art design is great.
Introduces some interesting elements to Tamriel (the crumbling empire, absence of Daedra since the Oblivion crisis, the Thalmor, Morrowind is a smoking crater).
Dragonborn was delightful despite being fanservice, and really brought home the diminished state of the Dunmer people.
You actually need a daedric heart to make daedric stuff.
>>345007989
so its not discussion if they're talking about characters in the game??
>>345006410
>neck yourself
How's middle school?
>>345005220
>>345005808
>>345006410
>>345008098
To be fair it's not easy to beat Oblivion's voice acting. It's just one voice for each race/gender, plus Sean Bean.
>the female orcs have Yankee accents
>>345003929
>Did Skyrim do anything right?
Basically everything? There's hardly a more complete rpg out there. Just fuck off back to Dark Souls already.
>>345008532
Whoops, I mean it's not hard.
>>345008541
Here's your (You)
>>345004160
>didnt replace the lod trees
>no enb texture for RW2
so fucking close to a mastapeece
>>345003929
It got a porn modding community
>>345006573
Are you joking?
Windhelm is full of dunmers because Nords kindly accepted them, and now they're bitching because their refusal to integrate is frowned upon
>>345009146
They stuck them in a ghetto and killed them for hanging up some banners.
>>345009146
>nords kindly accepted them
>elves living in the shitty dock warehouses in the lower slum part of town
yeah nah
>>345003929
Alchemy was so bad previously that even the tedious and shitty alchemy of Skyrim was still a step in the right direction. The only thing it was missing was a recipe book you could check while gathering ingredients.
The potion prices are still ridiculous though. Here, let me give you this one stamina poison for 2500 gold and then level up my barter skill 5 points by selling you 800 poisons of damage magicka regen for 0 gold.
Spell usage was also made better. Double wielding is a plus. Too bad all the systems directly related to those were downgraded.
>>345009279
>>345009310
There's a well integrated Altmer in the city who explains you that Dunmers segregated themselves in that part of the city to be among themselves and avoid having to integrate
>>345009310
Though, this begs the question.
If House Redoran is alive and well on Solstheim, why would any Dunmer choose to live in Windhelm instead?
>>345009391
>making potions that boost enchantment then enchanting armor that boosts your potion making in an endless loop
>it also made you infinite dosh
>>345003929
it gave the enderal modders an engine to make a good rpg out of
>>345009617
Because welfare
Darkies hate having to work
>>345009654
>can pull this off ez pz in cloudrest
thanks for putting the stations smackass next to each other beth
>>345009579
Shit, its just like real life.
>>345009617
the volcano fucked everything up
They made it fun to use magic. Too bad they made magic itself way more shallow. I would have been okay with them removing the ability to create spells the old way if they had let me combine dual-wielded spells in interesting ways.
>>345009785
Yep
Hardworking asian migrants vs nogs, muslims and spics welfare queens
>>345009617
Red Mountain blew up and made most of Morrowind impossible to live in.
>>345006347
I have sided with the stormcloacks if I hadn't played morrowind. I just couldn't betray the dunmer like that
>>345008112
>You actually need a daedric heart to make daedric stuff.
Yeah, but in Oblivion you couldn't make daedric stuff. Though it's a moot point since every other leveled bandit is loaded with Daedric gear.
>>345009654
That loop becomes less effective on a logarithmic scale. You can only do about 4-5 loops and then you have armor with +39% alchemy. That's amulet, ring, gloves and headgear, so +156% alchemy. x2.5 potion effectiveness. The thing that makes it OP is that if you have level 100 smithing you can make weapons with 256% quality.
Morrowind is overall much better as a game in general, but alchemy in that game is infinitely more broken because all effects stack indefinitely. You can gulp a bunch of +100 intelligence potions and then brew a few +20000 intelligence potions. Then drink those and make shit that's off the scale.
>>345006347
ulfric is a puppet for the thalmor that started a civil war out of greed.
>>345010329
I think Ulfric believes he's doing the right thing. But, yeah, the game straight up confirms that he's an asset to the Thalmor.
I wonder if TESVI will have him be the canonical winner of the civil war.
>tfw the artist behind Shivering Isles and Skyrim died of cancer
>tfw TESVI will have shitty bland art design, just like Oblivion
I don't want to go back bros.
>>345005524
Literally one person other than you said anything about graphics. Calm down buddy
>Tfw I had about 80 mods for Skyrim and my game looked amazing and played well
>all of that had to be uninstalled when I built my new computer and got a brand new solid-state drive
>been dying to try out Skyrim on the new computer but trying to get my mods working again after a fresh install sounds like a logistical nightmare
>>345010159
You'd still be wrong joining the Stormcloaks regardless of playing Morrowind. Skyrim going independent would be a death sentence whether Ulfric wanted to be High King or not. The Empire provides protection as well as access to easy trade among the rest of Tamriel for basic resources that Skyrim cannot provide on its own. The people would starve and leave making the country weaker to a Thalmor invasion which is what they want. Skyrim is full of ores and Dwemer ruins full of items to advance their armies. The Mages College already showed they want magical items there solely to make the Thalmor stronger.
>>345006287
You tell him fellow anonymous person
>>345003929
bethesda finally hired another studio to do their player models instead of making their own shitty assets
>>345010514
I would hope not, unless they want the empire to fall apart and something new to take its place that isn't the Thalmor. Maybe a coalition of the various countries.
>>345003929
the faces actually looked decent this time around. big leap up from oblivion. elves actually looked inhuman, beast races were distinct, humans looked human (bethesda have not always cleared that low hurdle). good stuff all around.
>>345005808
You're trying to hard to fit in faggot, now it seems like you're autistic.
>>345010892
The Empire is a dhimmi state, there's no benefit to staying in a cucked realm that lets Thalmor openly kill any Talos worshippers. If Hammerfell can do it, so can Skyrim. #skexit
>>345010514
>But, yeah, the game straight up confirms that he's an asset to the Thalmor.
Then again, if you have reading comprehension, you understand the Thalmor don't want him to win
Any side winning is bad for them
The only difference is that if you win with the Empire, they can continue to wander around and impose their laws freely until the Empire finally decides to act (aka never) while if you win with the Knights of Windhelm they are basically kicked out of Skyrim
>>345011904
They want him to him because it will literally tear the empire apart.
>Stiff animation
>Boring quests
>Level scaling enemies
Not a single thing was done right.
>>345011096
They already made it pretty clear that the Empire was basically dead
By the time Skyrim takes place, it's a joke entity consisting of 2.5 provinces and cucked on its own territory by Thalmor troops that are free to do whatever they want
>>345003929
it wasn't pokemon go
>>345012048
That's your headcanon, not what's in the game
In the game it's stated they don't want any side to win the civil war
>>345011526
Hammerfell isn't a frozen wasteland of a country. It has better resources to handle itself.
>>345011526
>If Hammerfell can do it, so can Skyrim.
not true, redguards are actually good at fighting.
>>345003929
exploring the landscape is a very satisfying experience
the winter atmosphere is one of the best I've had the chance to experience
when it's too hot outside I play Skyrim
when it's too cold I play Tropico
>>345005808
>>345011526
They literally went out of their way to avoid that laws enforcement until ulfric ruined everything by making so much fucking noise.
>>345012350
If a bunch of smelly wewuz can resist the elves, there's no way an aryan dragonborn cannot
>>345012614
vikings aren't good fighters m8 they were glorified pirates that got their asses handed to them whenever they fought against a real army.
>>345012767
So were the ottomans
>>345003929
Yea it provided me with 300 hours worth of entertainment that no recent game has managed to do for me. Go back to Pokemon go faggot Skyrim was a great game
>>345012931
they beat the Byzantines.
>>345012614
>>345012751
Like he said
>redguards are actually good at fighting.
Did you know that building houses kills hundreds of nords every year?
Sometimes when hammering nails with their god damn forehead they hammer the wrong side
>>345013020
After everyone else had raped them to Hell and back, yes, they did.
>>345013020
>crusades fucked the Byzantine Empire leaving it weakened
>very long recession
The ottomans didnt even need to do anything. The byzantines beat themselves but i guess every empire has to fall at some point. Still though 1000 years is a great lifespan for an empire
>>345004353
Wrong one
https://youtu.be/Cmp5fr4wUEA
>>345007363
Orcs are elves and Argonians are literally lizards walking on two legs, what do you expect?
>>345012751
>implying nords aren't the niggers of TES
>>345013718
>Orcs and Elves are lizards
>>345014191
>orcs are elves
>argonians are lizards
>>345004160
>not using lush trees
>not using realistic water 2
>>345015125
Argonians are warm-blooded you tard.
>>345005808
It came out in 2011, that was before all this SJW shit went down
>>345015416
Lizards can be warm-blooded, you fucking faggot.
>>345003929
marketing
>>345014191
>he can't see the difference between 'are' and 'and'
What's it like to be dyslexic, faggot?
>>345015416
i was just correcting >>345014191
>>345003929
I'm really hoping in the next game they just drop the level shit.
It's become blatantly clear that they can't balance a game to save their life, and the way they keep fucking up the leveling system each time, they need to just do away with it completely.
Get rid of levels, and make it all about items collected and spells learned. Otherwise it's all base stats, and you can actually spend resources on making fun combat, instead of pumping numbers into fucking crabs to give them a million points of health.
>>345009826
>>345010119
>Solstheim
>GUIZ! volcano fucked up morrowind daaaaa
??
>>345011096
The empire basically doesn't even exist in Skyrim.
Most provinces are either Thalmor or independent who use the Empire but have no intention of returning to the empire (Hammerfell)
>>345016143
Only Valenwood and Elsweyr are with the Thalmor and that's only because of coupt that killed off the leaders of Valenwood who opposed joining and Kajhiit are fucking idiots who think the Thalmor brought back one of the moons when it disappeared for a while when its disappearance and return are still a mystery. The rumours are though the Thalmor used something to make it look like it disappeared and then brought it back like they had divine powers to the stupid cats.
>>345003929
Skyboxes
Cooking is a nice addition
marriage is a nice addition too
>>345016691
BRING BACK ALKOSH NOW OUT WITH RIDDLE' THAR
FUCK THE MANE
>>345005808
Maybe (you) should read the lore, faggot.
The orcs were cool looking
Best porn game
>>345003929
Frostfall is awesome and the quest mods are pretty much better than anything in the vanilla game, bar the D-dick quests.
>>345015586
Feelsbadman.jpg
>>345016783
>marriage is a nice addition too
>>345016783
Not really, it's fucking pointless and retarded. They should have made like a handful of possible spouse characters and fleshed them out. Oh wait
>Bethesda
>fleshed out characters
Even fucking Delphine, who's a main character is less interesting than a token side NPC from a real RPG.
>>345005808
Not everything has to be about politics you fucking faggot
>>345018105
>marrying Delphine
>not marrying best boy
back to rebbit with you
>Orc weaponry is weaker than Elven and Dwarven
Literally why
Also I felt the voice acting was quite bland.
Specially in the intro
Adding clear markers to dungeons
Making faces not look shit
Better combat
Smithing
Good soundtrack
Some nice cities
thats all i can really think of and i have no desire to replay
>>345011904
They don't want him to win, but he is still being a little shit promoting discord and thus making him an indirect asset.
The Thalmor just want the war to drag and Ulfric is doing just that.
>>345003929
You can marry Argonians.
...Thats about it.
>>345005808
This is when it's time to take a break from the computer for a while and go do something. Your life and world view is not healthy. Please seek help, and do something to keep your mind busy. Maybe a job?
>>345018502
>Marrying defaults
>not marring the huge orc at sidna mine
back to tumblr with youit's still good taste anon, with body mods.
>>345012350
What the fuck? How can he use magic from a severed hand? I don't think the elf just had a bunch of fucking magic juices in his fingers that he can shoot out by squeezing his wrist.
>>345018827
Forgot to add aswell, the level scaling doesnt feel as fucking dumb as in Oblivion where i felt weaker as the game went on where in Skyrim i felt stronger though that failed too as the enemies never gained stronger gear so i wasrunning around with glass gear against bandits in leather armour
>>345003929
Pretty waifus.
>>345019767
It's pretty funny how base Aela, Lydia and Serana are way hotter than all the mods that are supposed to "fix" them
And don't get me started on character creation mods
Judging only by pics on the TES thread of /vg/ you'd think it's some weird ass Japanese porn game rather than Skyrim
Damn, some of their modded characters are even worse looking than Second Life characters, but somehow someone thought it was an impreovement over Skyrim bhase graphics...
>>345018827
Oblivion had a more consistent OST though.
Combat was better than it's predecessors, for what that's worth.
>>345019767
Mature Skin Texture + UNP is an actual improvement over vanilla Skyrim, but that's mostly because it sticks to the same general style but with high quality assets.
>>345020707
>tfw finally have a proper action RPG combat system modded in
>tfw PC is too shit and stutters and doesn't accept the dodge command without a delay when there are enemies on screen
Well, I can have fun thinking about how good the combat is with the mods I have.
>>345019418
>felt weaker playing Oblivion
You obviously didn't know how to train your character. You can become a straight up demi-god in that game of you know what you're doing.
>>345007183
I wonder when this meme will die
>>345006507
modded Skyrim already looks significantly better than the remake, so there's really no reason to bother with it
It's really just for consoles and people who don't want to modFallout:NV HD remake when?
>>345003929
Scope and soundtrack
>>345005568
>If Mountain Blade Butterlord lives up to the hype the devs are spinning about modability then it may get dethroned.
Surrender, knave, or my horde of buxom bimbosluts will savagely suffocate you within their monstrously ample bosoms.
>>345020536
>Judging only by pics on the TES thread
There's your problem. How about actually looking at the mods to judge them.
You only need a few to make the characters look better. See >>345020790
You can also get an eye texture mod, or even brow and beard.
>>345006785
I wish that at the very least, Fallout 4 retained that system, I mean at least it had fucking skills, but no, they just decided to phone it in even harder.
>>345005220
Could you not fit in any more memes? Your post is looking pretty thin.
>>345003929
It was actually less lore-rapey than Oblivion, funnily enough
>no classes, so you can mix match whatever you want
>sense of wonder in exploring world the first time
>Dark Brotherhood questline is a great one with character arcs and good old-fashioned tragic characters
>joining College of Winterhold is exciting the first time
>First College mission is a literal field trip to an archeology site, which is really cute
>The first couple Thieves Guild missions are really good
>Music is great throughout
>Fort battles were decent
>It's awesome when you are going to kill Movarth and a whole bunch of peasants join you and walk to the cave with an angry lynch mob (except they chicken out and it ruins it)
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>>345005808
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>>345006287
Have memes gone too far?
>>345007497
so what are redguards?
>>345008179
oh fuck off
>>345022381
>no classes, so you can mix match whatever you want
Ruins the RPG aspect of it
>sense of wonder in exploring world the first time
I'll give it that. Blackreach is the best thing in the whole game
>Dark Brotherhood questline is a great one with character arcs and good old-fashioned tragic characters
It was boring and the majority of the kills didn't require stealth or following specific orders to complete. Oblivion's was much better.
>joining College of Winterhold is exciting the first time
Again, Oblivion's was done better. The fact you could join just by shouting completely undermines its rule on keeping out unskilled members unlike Oblivion where you needed recommendations from each of the guild halls before joining
>First College mission is a literal field trip to an archeology site, which is really cute
That lasted for about 5 min before turning into "kill draugr before killing the big bad draugr in the final chamber and getting a new shout word." It's also the first mission of that guild and it instantly sets up what the main questline is gonna be.
>The first couple Thieves Guild missions are really good
Most of it isn't even stealing stuff unless you count the side jobs. Again the majority of them don't require any bit of stealth. Oblivion's was much better and their attitude was better. Robinhoodesque characters helping the poor and stealing for the thrill where in Skyrim they were more like a crime syndicate
>Music is great throughout
It was good but not as comfy as Oblivion
>Fort battles were decent
Kill weakass guys who spawn from random locations rather than the doors until the game says you won. How amazing
>It's awesome when you are going to kill Movarth and a whole bunch of peasants join you and walk to the cave with an angry lynch mob (except they chicken out and it ruins it)
All I saw were npcs I gotta protect because they're stupid or going to get in the way of my attacks. I ignored them and went in without asking them to join.
>>345020696
as much as i love oblivions soundtrack it only ever seemed to play the same 3 songs while in the overworld so i have to give it to skyrim in that department
>>345005808
(you)
>>345020972
thats exacytly the problem though, even using all the skills i want to level up thats not training my character correcty, oblivions level up system was fucked
