>6gb
Literally how?
>>344990841
maybe they actually compressed shit
>>344990841
Procedural generation doesn't take a lot of space.
Look up .kkrieger, it's a full game literally lighter than the pic you chose for this thread.
PROCEDURALLY
GENERATED
QUINTILLION
PLANETS
No texture, they just change the color of the surfaces.
![1769[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/caUtuV7.jpg "1769[1].jpg")
>5gb
>>344990841
youll see
numale compression
>>344990841
>more threads about this
>either idiocy or shilling disguised as ignorance
STOP
>>344991648
>Stop having threads about video games
>>344991949
>>344992035
>149MB
Literally how?
>>344991648
>stop talking about games I don't like
>>344992127
well for 1996 that's actually quite a large game.
>>344992127
procedural generation
>60gb
how
>>344991276
Modern wow is like 32 gigs
Vanillq had max 256 resolution textures
>>344990841
Elite Dangerous is 8 GB. That game has the same bullshit procedural generation.
>>344992267
>>344992312
I know. And it's the same approach employed by No Man's Sky.
It's cool to see it return. Hopefully in a more functional manner, as many of the dungeons in Daggerfall were straight up impossible to solve.
>>344992525
Procedural doesn't have to be bullshit.
>>344992389uncompressed Audio and movies
>>344992696
I never played this, so I don't know how well it accomplishes anything. All I know of are my experiences with that scam ED.
>>344992997
It can be discussed whether it accomplishes being a good game. It's a free demo. But it does serve up a lot of hand designed textures and models for being 96 kilobytes.
>>344991047
Most of it is audio so no they didn't.
>>344991465
secondary kek
>>344992997
You can fit several copies of it on your standard floppy disk.
Had they thought of it as more than a tech demo, they could have released it as a full game on a 3½-inch.
>>344990841
It says 10gb on its Steam page.
>>344994482
6Gb download i guess
>>344994147
>Used to use floppies at home
>Just missed the age of bringing floppies into school to play games
Feels bad man.
>>344995961
Copying and sharing materials with floppies was super comfy, but it was a volatile storage medium. If it rubbed the wrong way in your pocket or got too close to something magnetized, you could say goodbye to your files. That's why I and many more thought Zip drives were the future, the same comfy but on a much better storage medium.
And flash drives for that matter, why the fuck aren't media and video game publishers driving down the cost of those and using them in lieu of optical media?
>>344996368
Digital distribution is a much cheaper medium with less possible logistical problems.
>>344990841
>minecraft is less than 1gb
Literally how?
>>344990841
>He thinks it downloads the "Infinite map"
>It actually is "procedurally generated world"
The infinite world is just the same assets in different places, just like a minecraft "infinite" world
>>344992525
I'm more impressed by the original Elite.
52 Kbytes of disk size (on tape casette) and only 16kB RAM to work with for the BBC Micro - and with procedural generation wizardry the devs managed to write a full 3D space game with 2048 planets (the original planned for 2^48, and the code was capable of generating these unique planets - but the publisher wanted to make the game more manageable and "believable" to consumers by implementing fewer planets) in 1984.
>>344996657
It's also a more expensive headache to maintain, with majority of console and handheld gamers still buying their games physically.
Media sizes are also increasing, while internet service aren't necessarily meting more bandwidth demands globally, so a good selling point for a 50+ GB game is to own it on a physical medium that can handle that storage without you also having to foot the bill for the download cost.
>>344990841
>procedural generation
>shit graphics based only on the art style
>zero unique content
I bet you don't remember the pre-2013 times when massive fucking games had like 8.5gb tops
>>344990841
No content
>>344994147
>>344995961
Using floppies was definitely comfy.
In high school, back in the Game Maker 5 days, I used to create games, and I specifically challenged myself to try to make them be able to fit on floppy disks - so that I could bring them in and easily play them at school.
I could burn CDs, too, but that didn't have the same appeal, for some reason. I mostly saw it as a dev challenge.
>>344990841
It's simple, my little anon.
They care about gameplay over aesthetics, the anti-thesis of Star Citizen(or some say Scam Citizen).
>>344997576
>>344992389
Why can't devs optimize for filesize anymore? I know storage is so cheap nowadays, but I miss the days of dealing with compact, easy-to-download, easy-to-transfer files.
Fucking indie Unity games are 100MB minimum. Fuck this shit.
LITERALLY ANYTHING
>>344996368
Go back to l e d d i t and take your gay ass 'comfy' meme with you
>>344998359
Can't go back if I've never been.
I'm sorry you're too young to have experienced floppies, though I doubt you'd feel they are as comfy in this day and age.
>>344998359
>some autists STILL get triggered by the word "comfy" for some reaons
>it literally means "comfortable"
why does this keep happening?
>>344997935
they can
but they choose not to since bluray lets you have ~50GB on a disc
>>344998752
Probably because he cant get comfy
>>344990841
It probably grows with time like Minecraft.
The more you explore and it generates shit, the bigger your game file will get.
>>344990841
That's the wonder of procedural generation.
The disaster in procedural generation is generating boring landscapes every now and then.
>>344999387
Nope. Unlike minecraft its actually designed well and uses algorithms rather than just saving every single bit of data.
File size wont grow at all.
They released a new trailer today, with 3 more on the war apparently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AVmI73va4g
>>344994147
Whats that image?
>>344999594
*way
>>344999594
Have they showed ANYTHING on space combat yet? All I see is what to do when landing on planets.
I know landing on planets is a big part of the game, but I want to know what you can do in SPACE.
It's minecraft.. But in space!
It's going to be bad.
>>344990841
>no content
thanks future of gaming
>>344999569
O I see. Those must be some pretty insane algorithms or the game must be completely shit.
I guess we'll find out soon enough.
>>344999569
>rather than just saving every single bit of data.
explain how an "Algorithm" would produce better results for minecraft saves than having to save every block
you cannot modify the world in no man's sky. people keep comparing it to minecraft. the basic, defining feature of minecraft is missing
it's nothing like minecraft. it's a boredom simulator.
some of you will buy it and force yourself to play 400 hours. "IM HAVING SO MUCH FUN"
>>344999656
Your standard 3½-inch floppy.
The way most of us used to exchange files in the late 80s to early 00s, before CD burning and the internet took over.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a7-5WYOKxE
I want this procedural generation trend to end.
>>344999727
Just little snips in trailers, though the next trailer will cover it. I wouldn't expect much honestly, it seems that the planetside part of the game is the main focus.
>>344999970
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up863eQKGUI
>>344992696
Is that a deku nut flying though the screen?
>Mario 3D World is only 1.3gb
Nu-male magic
When this game is released there are going to be visitors from the future.
On August 9th, 2016 three humans from the future will arrive in Times Square. They will claim to be from the 67th century but really they are from a time far past that.
They will explain that since this masterpiece of a game was released no single human has been able to beat it. Not billions, TRILLIONS of worlds have been discovered in-game and the developers have left little clues leading towards technological advancements in the real world!
No Man's Sky is more than just a game. It is the single greatest and most important piece of technology to ever be made. Preorder now.
>>344999970
It took 12 of these to install Mortal Kombat 2 on your PC
>>345000716
>This entire post
Why didn't three time traveling humans do this for minecraft, eh chum?
whats this game about? it seems boring as fuck
>>344996368
>zip drives
It didn't stay long, just like beepers
>>344990841
It's just generating everything in real time so everything it gives you on disc are textures, voices, "Rendering system" and text, nothing else.
>>344994482
Steam always require you to have more space that the game actually "weight" for things like maps save games etc.
>>345000903
They did, but everyone disregarded them as just some other autistic manchildren.
>25mb
>>345001025
Or MiniDiscs.
>>345001264
Ayy
>>345000970
Going to different colored planets to do nothing. Then you do nothing on other planets. Eventually blah blah center blah blah.
>>345001125
Yeah, but 4GB is a bit excessive, so I'm thinking either the game is bigger on PC to account for higher resolutions or planned updates/dlc or something.
>>344992530
>many of the dungeons in Daggerfall were straight up impossible to solve.
>not leveling magic so you could literally walk through the walls/completely fuck the world geometry and just walk throughæther to the goal
>90GB
Literally how it's just an FPS
>>344999795
fuck off sheepy
>>345001667
>æ
Sæll og blessaður félagi, hvað segist?
>>345000970
Spore with even less game
>>345001759
343 are incompetent. Bungie back in the day wasn't.
Funny how old games had more and better gameplay in a few MB (if that) than today's garbage has in fucking GB.
Today's games are pathetic.
Is there a cheap gpu that can play this? I have everything else on par with specs but i'm still confined with a 9500gt
>>344994482
>8GB of RAM
JUST FUCKING SHIT ME UP
>>345002380
less to work with means you have to stretch yourself more
>>345002739
>Year of our lord 2016
>Not having 8GB minimum
Doesn't cost much, brings your machine up to date.
>>345001348
I want to hug Kagerou!
Whats the appeal of this game? Do you just literally land on other planets and just... walk around?
>>344990841
Is that too much or too little for you? Because it's quite a lot for an indieshit walking sim.
this tech demo is 1.5mb and it has a whole universe. Think about it.
>entire universe in 6gb game
>12 gb game will contain 2 universes
imagine a 24gb game!!
>>345003931
so that means the planets are empty as fuck
dropped
>0.9 MB
Literally how?
>>345002052
Spore had a lot of game in it, it's just that what was shown before release was much,much,much better
So how does the MP actually work in this
I remember hearing that you'd be able to explore with friends, then that it was a lie or something and you couldn't
>>345005056
>MP
lol
its single player, you're all being conned
>>345000327
Nintendo knows how to compress shit. Iwata was a code wizard.
>>344990841
Figuratively nothing to do.
>13.21 MB
How the fuck?
>>345001759
Western coders
>>344990841
Noctis IV fits on a floppy disk and has a similarly sized world. the main bloat in most games is all the audio anyway
>>345001759
lol nice memed my friend
>google that shit
>it wasn't a joke
well shit another reason not to buy a xbone
>>345006878
BF4 and Hardline are Both near 50GB a piece on PS4 games are getting bigger across the board.
>>345006219
>western coders
implying western coders dont absolutely completely crush eastern coders?
implying coders are responsible for the fucking filesize of the game 90% of which is uncompressed cinematics and audio?
>>345006219
Metal Gear Rising was like 25GB with 20GB of uncompressed shit quality cutscenes.
>>344990841
re-used assets aka laziness
>>344992312
>>344992530
daggerfall's a little different tho
the game was procedurally generated in development but besides the wilderness all areas are static between games. the data for all towns and dungeons is stored in the game data, not generated on the fly. they're the same for everyone
>>344990841
The gigabytes will procedurally generate as you play.
>>344990841
All the data is stored online as it's made and streamed to you.
Good luck playing in 10 years.
If anyone wants an actual answer, the game is rendered using a sequence (or algorithm) which is generated endlessly. The sequence is the same for every single player, so there are no differences.
So, none of the game world is saved in the game files, its just a big number that the game reads and displays shit accordingly.
I wouldn't advise pre-ordering this one.
DERAIL ATTEMPT
What are some genuinely well optimized games ?
bEAttlefront may pack up to 27gb in the final version, but the beta was smooth as butter with everything on high on my soon to be toaster
>>345009627
Performance wise GTA V is great, but it's way too fucking big
>>344998752
Newfags who just figured out that fun is a buzzword (which it is) thought knowing that made them smart, and figured they'd look smarter if they said comfy is a buzzword too. Except comfy does have a meaning, and that exposes how retarded they are.
>>345009627
Just Cause 2 is probably the most well optimised game ever.
>>345001759
>what is updates
>>344990841
REUSED ASSETS
PALETTE SWAPS EVERYWHERE
>>344994482
This is an older data
Otherwise, any game need some extra space other than the actual game data to install, for example: a game that have 25Gb may needs a PC with 50Gb to fully instal it
>>345004340
Best fucking game
>>344990841
If you procedurally generate all the surfaces it can work, increases loading time but makes the size tiny.
>>345009484
no is not.
>>345010613
>most well optimised game ever.
It's full of glitches and loading times vary from short to way too fucking long
But that map size tho
>>344990841
6gb is the perfect size to do ANYTHING.
>>345009590
It probably runs off a seed system, and shit is generated despawned when you appear/leave.
>You tell code you want to hop into system ABXYZ2324
>Seed tells game to generate the system and possibly one or two systems around it if the developers actually made the world living
>When you leave to the next this one despawns from memory and the seed saves the information
I think that's right.
skyrim is 2.5 gb on xbox 360
and 4 on pc
>>345009590
kek no way this is true.
if it was true then min CPU should be i7 with good models.
no amd equvilaent either.
or CELL at ps3.
>>345011607
How does it work then? There's no way this can fit on an HDD and it has to be a persistent world that's identical for everyone.
>>345012618
>Persistent world
Seeds, goddammit.
>>344991113
isnt .kkrieger that german game that uses like 50kbs of storage?
>>345012869
fuck, I guess that never occurred to me
>>345012909
About 95 KB.
The naomi version and the dc version of Ikaruga have only 30mb.
>>345012460
you have no idea how computers work, do you? it's way easier to generate the same seed over and over again when you re enter a system than reading out a memory and calculate actual progression that happend in the meantime.
>>345012131
this is 100% how NMS works. Devs even stated that.
>>344995961that kkriger demo came out when i was finishing middle school holy shit out young are you
>delay the game
>then say they finished it
>still being released three weeks from now
Why
>>345013216
Yeah...no shit dude.
Thank god you brought that insight, otherwise we will be doomed
>>345013279
they are delaying because of a patent on the name SKY, they need to check. it's just 2 wasted months for players.
>>345013436
oh ok i'm 24
i forgive you for not following the demoscene
>>345001759
>>345002258
>>345006219
>>345006878
retarded western devs don't compress fucking anything, so you get a disc that has hours of uncompressed dialogue in multiple languages on it that they don't even bother to remove on a region-to-region basis EVEN FOR FUCKING DIGITAL PURCHASES
>>345005831
DF rules
>>345013541
When I was younger I used to play mainly kiddieshit (lego, racers etc) or single player RTS games on PC. In elementary school Macs were tested out on us for a few years. After moving onto middle school when computers were more properly integrated into the curriculum they were just shitty Dell workstations and nobody really knew of anything outside of flash games.
>>344994482
i dont understand, i thought 4gb of ram was the standard for everything. what sort of game requires 8gbs of ram these days?
>>345014870
I have 6GB.
I feel like I'm above average and all games should limit to 6GB because 8 is just overkill.
>>344990841
They forgot to put any gameplay in.
>>345014079
i guess i was lucky
my dad dumped an old desktop on my lap that could hardly play unreal tournament (not 2004 editon)
(i used this desktop every day until about '07)
i got really into computers, eventually found a home on irc#freenode, then somehow got ropped into the demoscene by a friend.i may or may not have been an asshole loading demos on floppes and telling other kids in class "i created them"
i was just beyond fucking impress i could load an entire music video in less space than a single wav file.
>tfw i also got into the PSP modding scene
>step dad wouldnt let me use the internet
>got on anyway anytime i could when they were not home
>discovered the magic of mother fucking winrar
somwhere at my moms house is a fuxking box of about 200 FLOPPIES i used to transport SOCOM from the parents computer to mine, had to strip all the videos and single player maps from the ISO so i didnt need to use 800 floppies.then i realized the next week i could have just drug my desktop downstairs to download it
>>345015075
8 is honestly enough to run a virtual machine and have one or two games running. a single game shouldn't require that much ram
>>345015825
what the hell is using up 45% of my (6GB) memory?
