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Did /v/ get into the alpha? Is it any good?
it's just okay.
I mean it's Battlefield, nig. What do you think you're getting?
>>344983957
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRRrjffUXzM
It looks like fucking shit. I thought this game was supposed to have good graphics?
>>344983957
Yeah, have been playing a lot of the alpha and having a blast. Lots of cool new changes add up and there's some really cool attention to detail. Destruction is absolutely awesome.
>>344983957
https://youtu.be/hj8rSuGeMd0
it's fun :3
>>344984454
This is bait, right?
>>344984689
It may be but that image is obviously not gameplay and part of the baked hype material.
BF games usually look good but not that good.
>>344984789
I mean Battlefront looked fucking incredible and that game was a rushjob
>>344984689
Is that an in-game render? Looks great
>>344984689
>gameplay footage obviously looks like shit
>better post some bullshot to change this fact
>>344984789
Its an in-game screenshot you dip
Taken by someone from the alpha
>>344984789
Are you're judging from a compressed youtube video you sperg, who is more in the wrong?
>>344984825
https://www.reddit.com/r/Battlefield/comments/4q3hk4/bf1_different_weathers_changing_the_atmosphere_in/?st=iqmdih2i&sh=69907253
Same as that naughty dog game. Game looks good, has a photo mode that applies a bunch of post processing effects so people can post it and say wowee look how great it looks
>>344984820
yeah, and also only had small maps and no destruction
>>344984936
'no'. it's a screenshot that has been altered by processing software.
you can't argue that shit when there's gameplay footage available and we all know what it looks like.
>>344984789
>Screengrab of a compressed youtube video
>Indicative of the game's graphics
>>344984958
Look up some raw footage or play the game yourself. You're judging it based on the compressed 720p youtube footage you watch you mong
>>344984936
>that complete lack of aliasing
no, it's not an in-game screenshot.
>>344983957
Yes I am /v/ and it sucked.
>>344985034
>Bullshot
>Indicative of the game's graphics
>>344985047
I have I'm just using what is posted in this thread.
I really don't give a fuck senpai its gonna have the same braindead gameplay as BF3 and BF4 did full of the CoD audience they want so bad.
>>344984789
>that scope
Is that really something that existed back then? It looks like high tech shit.
>>344984863
I mean the graphics look fine and it just looks like another standard Battlefield game gameplay-wise. What's your problem? It's not photo realistic?
>>344985145
>braindead
Explain
>>344985263
It looked great in the promotional footage and now it looks like BF4, a 2013 game, and worse than Battlefront. How are you defending this?
![telescopes_for_sharpshooters-tfb[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/twJWmqT.jpg "telescopes_for_sharpshooters-tfb[1].jpg")
>>344985226
Took me like 5 seconds to google "first world war scopes" to find dozens of pictures.
>>344985030
The game looks fine. I don't care about Battlefield games, I especially don't care about the graphics, but the graphics and gameplay look perfectly fine to me in that video. Honestly I feel like you're either baiting or just really miserable and whiny and you're taking it out here.
Don't you care more about the gameplay anyway? Why not comment on that instead of whining about something that will barely affect your enjoyment of the game?
Maybe I'm just out of touch but the emphasis on good graphics these days just doesn't make sense to me. Almost all games that are coming out are meeting the standard for 'good graphics'. I can only assume it's people who grew up with nice looking games and so a game that doesn't push graphic quality further is 'terrible', regardless of the gameplay.
So is this going to be a watered down piece of crap like the last battlefront game compared to its predecessors or what?
Im still salty as fuck they removed all those progressive rush maps. Fucking the one in bf3 where you jump off a fucking cliff, god dammit why, rush was the best part of the game, conquest is just a bunch of shitters camping and running around ghost capping bases, its fucking retarded
>>344985674
Whatever nerd.
>>344985226
I thought that at first too, but the longer I looked at it, the more it started to resemble a very old camera or something primitive like that.
>>344985826
Thanks for the giggle
>>344985710
>I don't care about this game but let me make this big shill post to defend it
>>344983957
Better than the overhyped overwatch
>>344985784
I think the tipping point was Bad Company 2
The game just oozed fun and actually made use of the destruction gimmick quite well.
BF3 and 4 toned everything that was good about that series down.where the fuck is bad company 3?
>>344985784
t. Mad because bad
Conquest is fun as hell as long as you have an inkling of what you're doing
Rush is good on a few maps but is often one-sides
>>344986532
Conquest is TDM with flags
Attack/defend game modes are always superior
>>344986161
explain your reasoning cause it makes no sense to me
BF4 has more destruction than Bad Gustav 2. BF3 had more internal destruction too.
BC2 has less of everything than BF3 and 4 and plays like shit since it's a console shooter.
>>344986605
>Conquest is TDM with flags
>TDM
>Kills no longer count towards the score
B8 harder m8.
>>344986605
...and rush is tdm with progressive flags? How does that make sense
Kills don't nearly matter as much as objectives do
There's also obliteration, which is very fun, chainlink, CTF, gun master, etc
>>344986867
BF4 is shit it has the same crap formula that 3 has which is a bunch of points close together even the expansions didnt solve it.
Battlefront well thats basically BF1 lite
I dont know who the fuck Dice are trying to appeal to with these games since CoD is now dead and they basically own the market again why dont they just go back to form and make a Real BF2 sequel.
No memes
Im still Waiting for 2143 or something else but i guess thats off the table for another 3+ years while they fart around with ww1that said if it doesnt turn out to be trash ill play it
>EA is actually paying this stupidfuck to market this shitty WW2 reskin
>>344986870
it's going to play out exactly the same
i.e. people are just going to run around going for kills because there is no frontline
>>344983957
Superior multiplayer game coming through.
>>344987145
>a bunch of point close together
Explain
>>344987162
>ww2 reskin
Literally what the fuck
>>344987241
You know the capture points? They are too close together i liked them more spaced out like they where in BF2 and 1942
2142 was two steps forward and one step back
1943 was okay but clearly it didnt track since they didnt make a full game out of it like they wanted to.
Cool tech its aged pretty well.
I'd love to see them actually try something new since ww1 is basically ww2 lite and they just copy pasta'd battlefront mixed with the worst parts of bf3 from what i could see
>>344987425
>He really thinks it's a WW1 shooter.
>>344984396
BF2>BC2>BF4, so no BF doesn't automatically mean good
>>344987163
Even the dumbest kid will realise how important capping points is when people with lower K/Ds than him consistently reach the top of the scoreboard while he hugs the bottom.
>>344987629
>he really thinks using greentext explains anything and proves him right
>>344987629
>He thinks BF:1942 was a WW2 shooter
>He thinks BF:V was a Vietnam shooter
>He thinks BF:2/3/4 are modern warfare shooters
Go back to Arma or Verdun or whatever.
>>344987775
>He is actually this stupid and needs to be spoon fed even further.
Facebook cancer everyone.
>>344987858
>WW1
>Everyone has a machine gun.
also
>He doesn't think 1942 was a WW2 shooter.
The idiots just keep pilling in.
>>344987507
m8, there are like over 20 maps and 2 modes of CQ. There are plenty of maps with spaced out capture points. You're trashing 2 entire games based on a couple of CQ maps?
>>344987775
Not the >>344987629 anon but did you even fucking watch any gameplay of this game? The game has far far far too many automatics for a ww1 game so it may aswell be ww2.
>>344985034
the "compressed youtube video" argument is the dumbest argument ever.
>>344987972
To be honest most of the maps are clusterfucks.
>>344987969
Ah yes, let's have everyone use bolt actions and sit in trenches and slowly die of gangrene while they wait for the order to go over the top from command, that'll surely make a good game.
Anon, you're a genius!
>>344987969
>>344988012
>Bolt actions weren't the primary infantry weapons in WW2
>Everyone were running around with SMGs in WW2
>Everyone were running around, hip firing LMGs in WW2
People who thinks this is more like WW2 are fucking stupid.
>>344987969
>can't explain his point of view
>"stupid Facebook cancer fug off xd"
Truly amazing
>>344988214
wow leave this board any time
>WW1 game has more automatics than a WW2 game.
>Shills are ACTUALLY defending this.
>>344988012
See this
>>344988214
Also the bolt actions are pretty powerful, they ohk at a certain range, you just have to actually aim well
>>344988214
Never mind bayonet charges!
Never mind navigating no man's land!
>>344988349
Wow, continue to post non-replies with worthless reaction pics
>>344988349
this is a forum not a board you Fucking idiot
>Everyone can run around with full auto rifles
>NEVERMIND THE FACT THAT ONLY HIGH RANKING OFFICERS HAD ACCESS TO THESE EXPENSIVE WEAPONS XDDDD
>nevermind the fucking fact that lowly soldiers only had one strip of bullets and a shitty surplus bolt-action and off to be canon fodder they went
>>344983957
>"WE'RE FINALLY MAKING THE WW1 GAME EVERYONE SECRETLY WANTED
>"hold on though, let me make this as close to a WW2 game as possible
>hold on, can't forget to make it racially diverse :^)
Fuck them, I hope it bombs. The one thing I hate most in the world is history revision. The fact that they couldn't make a simple WW1 game without filling it with revisionist shit and prototype weapons that only had 5K in production at the time is fucking abhorrent, and they should be ashamed of themselves. I mean, even COD of all things managed to put effort into how they include women in combat roles by handwaving them with "it's the future get over it."
>>344988467
ANON I DO NOT WANT TO USE BOLT ACTIONS IN MY SHOOTY GAMES I DON'T WANT TO BE PUNISHED FOR MISSING
GIVE ME MY SMGS NOWWW
>>344988130
No
>>344988319
>So retarded he needs someone to explain every single thing to him.
>''le i r knot dum guys xD''
Go back to facebook please.
>>344988443
>battlefield is a mil sim
>>344988624
>Having the most widely used standard issue rifle makes it a sim.
If RO2 was a failure why would this shit be any different?
Besides the marvelous
>lel the arcade shooters are fun xD
argument.
>>344988531
>bayonet charges aren't in the game
>no mans land isn't in the game
Have you even watched a single round of bf1 or did you just come here for (you)s?
>>344988587
no one said it was going to be historically accurate you spastic
>>344988734
Standard issue bolt action rifles are in the game you tool. You don't HAVE to use them though.
>>344988738
>RO2
>failure
>>344988587
>The fact that they couldn't make a simple WW1 game without filling it with revisionist shit and prototype weapons that only had 5K in production
Because a Chinese soldier running around with a Famas and D. Eagle and defibs tht instantly revives someone who got sniped in the head is so much more accurate amirite?
>>344988806
The only bolt action rifles are sniper rifles you fucking faggot.
>>344988573
>>344988587
Jesus Christ you people. Were you legitimately expecting it to be a ww1 simulator? Where you spend several months in the trenches before getting blown to bits by artillery or dying of dysentery?
Also anyone that bases their history off a fucking battlefield game is literally retarded.
>>344988742
>He thinks knife backup weapon reskin counts as a bayonet charge.
>He thinks no man's land is just a flat piece of land.
>>344988891
You don't have to use a scope.
>>344988604
Underage please leave, or at least start telling me to go to places other than Facebook. Variety is the spice of life.
>>344988891
No.
>>344988891
That's where you're mistaken
>>344988954
You fucking idiot, most of war isn't running around with a machine gun anyway.
People sat in trenches in WW2.
People sat in positions getting bombed in WW2
>>344989062
THERES LITERALLY A BAYONET CHARGE MECHANIC
THERES LITERALLY A PART OF THE ALPHA MAP DEDICATED TO TRENCHES AND NO-MANS LAND
Can you be more ignorant?
>>344988954
It could at least try, like RO2, which is by no means simulator, yet it tries to make it at least somewhat believable. BF1 just jumps the shark and goes one step below a fucking alternate history with all of prototype shit and frontline aerostats.
>>344987198
I thought the first titanfall was fun but just kind of boring after a few hours; I liked the premise and mobility in the combat, it just got dull over a short amount of time for me. I'm pretty hyped for the sequel though but I dunno if that singleplayer campaign will be good.
>>344989284
That's what i said?
Do you want a game where you sit in trenches and get bombed?
>>344989405
Its battlefield
It has never been close to realistic
Of course its not going to be like ro2, no bf game was, not even fucking 1942 or 1943
>>344989405
>BF1 just jumps the shark and goes one step below a fucking alternate history with all of prototype shit and frontline aerostats.
you mean like Battlefield always has?
>>344989467
I want a game that had more realistic WW1 action than just a WW2 reskin. The Eastern front didn't have many trenches anyway. If they wanted a more mobile theater they could had choose to use that.
>/v/ juding the entire game on 1 map, a handful of weapons in an alpha build
every time
>>344989665
Verdun?
I was thinking of getting it
>>344989665
>I want a game that had more realistic WW1 action
Why the hell then are you in a Battlefield thread?
>>344989782
I don't know so far everyone is talking about a fantasy game taking place in an era when everyone had machine guns and looks like dragons could as well be around.
>>344989624
>>344989629
BF2 was pretty grounded, probably the most grounded BF even.
>>344989782
I guess M-16's are fantasy then.
>>344989885
But there WERE machineguns everywhere in WW1.
If you want, you can take a bunch of roleplayers to your server and each team can sit in a trench and you can shout at each other while someone fires artillery all around you.
The problem is, nobody wants to do that. People want to fight.
>>344989771
Because now days most alphas and betas have little to no difference between them versus the final release.
>>344989885
>so far everyone is talking about a fantasy game taking place in an era when everyone had machine guns
Oh so you mean literally every Battlefield game ever made?
>and looks like dragons could as well be around.
Dragons didn't exist in WW1. Every weapon/gadget/vehicle you see in the game however did, even if it wasn't commonplace.
>>344990032
Wtf are you talking about? Elaborate.
>>344990110
Machine guns you are thinking of were too heavy to run around shooting people rambo style.
MACHINE GUNS were stationary.
ITT: People expecting realism from a bf game for some reason
>>344990285
Because hip firing machine guns in WW2 and modern war is so much more realistic right?
>>344990112
This.
Especially if its on a very solid base engine like Frostbite
Even Digital Foundary said this is basically what the final game will be and ive been playing bf beta's since 2011 so its true
>>344990119
So I guess every battlefield game is just made up garbage with weapons that no one could get, but technically existed in a basement of some lab in a far away country so that means everyone can get it.
If that was the case then where are the nuclear rocket launches in Vietnam i feel cheated.
>>344990467
We expect a WW1 game to not be WW2, how hard is this to understand, shill?
>>344983957
>Did /v/ get into the alpha?
no
> Is it any good?
no
>>344990467
imagine if 1942 was remade using current tech but it was a straight remaster and not modernized
People would hate it
>No ranks
>No progression
>babbies wouldnt have to come back and grind
Then again overwatch is popular for some reason and so is csgo
Everyone fickle as fuck
>>344990517
It's more realistic to hipfire a 25 pound MG than a 80 pound WW1 Maxim.
>>344990110
You don't run around with machinegun's for obvious reasons dumb-ass.
>you can take a bunch of roleplayers to your server and each team can sit in a trench and you can shout at each other while someone fires artillery all around you.
There's a reason nobody made a WW1 fps until now. It took the likes of DICE and their blatant disregard for the period.
>>344990623
>So I guess every battlefield game is just made up garbage with weapons that no one could get, but technically existed in a basement of some lab in a far away country so that means everyone can get it.
Yes. That's literally exactly what I'm saying you idiot. You literally described the entire Battlefield series.
>>344990631
Bf1943 wasn't a simulator bud
You have a very wrong idea of what ww2 was
>>344990865
So I guess Americans starting out with m-16 and Russians starting out with AK's isn't very realistic.
>>344990285
Machine guns could be set up and taken down. Not all machine guns were setup on a tripod in some sandbags. LMGs were used whilst advancing to lay suppressing fire.
>>344990863
>agrees that a ww1 trench sim would suck
>fucking dice, disregarding history
>>344988124
Based on that post I can only assume that you're a dumb motherfucker
its alright. im not a fan of a class being dedicated to nothing but smg's/light machine guns but the game feels great to play, you get really immersed in the action. not a fan of the we wuz kings n shit meme as well since the files have confirmed that theres player customization (like battlefront) so there wont just be an all black scout class for the germans.
will it be worth 60-80 bucks? if you like old style games with no real frills, you'll like it. kinda like how cod: waw did it. no locking on, no ac-130 above, no 144x magnification scopes for sniping across the entire map.
>>344990836
The machine guns in the BF1 aplha:
Lewis Gun
>28 pounds
Vickers machine gun
>33-51 pounds
Madsen machine gun
>20 pounds
>>344990863
Please state these obvious reasons, I'm curious how retarded you are.
>Colonial Warfare game.
>Instead of muzzle loaded muskets, everyone gets shoulder fired repeating cannons since they technically existed in a drawing by a crazy Italian man.
>>344991338
>Guns were working and deployed in the war
>"lol le fantasy weapon"
please just fuck off
>>344991021
So I guess you think it's realistic that a American soldier is running around with a AEK-971 then?
>>344988124
you're right dude. in other news, wow, witcher 3 has some really bad graphics, just look at this man. I dont know how anyone can play this!
>>344991252
Vickers gun required a tripod to fire.
Lewis guns were aircraft weapons that rarely got in the hands of infantrymen.
Madsen was barely even in the war.
>>344991258
>its heavy
>in WW1 is was still considered as a small artillery piece now matter what it is from a 28-pound Lewis to a 50 pound Maxim, you don't send it in with the troops on the attack. You station it in a fixed place to provide support.
>Machine guns are also considered very valuable. During the war platoons that lost their machine-guns are reprimanded.
I await the idiocy that you will reply to this. Probably along the lines of "It doesn't have to be realistic!" or "that wasn't obvious!". 10 points if the word "retard" is your post too.
>>344991545
It's more realistic for a American today to buy a cheap russian gun than a WW1 grunt to be able to afford an expensive and German sub-machine gun.
Every single BF1 thread on /v/:
>we wuz soldierz n shiet
>only bolt actions existed
>where are the trenches and disease?
>ww2 reskin xD
Why doesn't anyone ever talk about the good and new things we saw from the alpha?
What does everyone thing about the new spawn map?
What about those glorious sounds?
Opinions on the Vehicles?
Let's actually talk about this game instead of memeing for once.
>>344991505
>Weapon saw action in 1 battle
>LOOK GUYS IT COUNTS
>>344990931
No one said it should be a simulator retard. BF1943 felt like a WW2 game which was good. This one also feels like a WW2 game and that's not good. You thick fucking cunt.
>>344991947
>attempting to have reasonable discussion
>on /v/
Look at the op, I tried already
>tfw RO2 had Japanese Banzai Bayonet charges that offered enemy moral and suppressed them.
>tfw the Karabiner 98k was the superior bolt action rifle with amazing accuracy and power.
>tfw Glorious German Soldiers had the best uniforms and helmets.
>tfw you drive a heavily armored Panzer into battle with 3 other friendly soldiers all with their unique positions and responsiblities.
>tfw no racial diversity on both Russia and Germany.
I'll just go back to Red Orchestra 2. That shit is far more accurate. After all, BF1 is just a WWII skin right guys?
>>344992090
>a ww2 game felt like a ww2 game
Is this some new meme or just really ironic shitposting?
>>344992217
Are you actually literally retarded?
>>344991858
>Series that's infamous for including obscure prototype weapons.
>Many weapons in the Battlefield series have never even seen combat.
>This is suddenly not okay when it's WW1.
>>344992274
No, I'm simply quoting you. Maybe you should be asking that of yourself?
>>344991947
Every single EA shill.
>we wuz black soldiers an shieeettttt
>It's not a WW2 reskin! These weapons technically existed!
>I sure hope it's a BF3,4,5 clone!
>U racist xD
Why would you be existed for ANOTHER Battlefield?
This game is a WW2 reskinned BF4 clone meant to appear like it took place in WW1.
There is already plenty wrong with that formula.
If you wanted another BF just play 2,3,4,5,1942,21,BC.
There is literally nothing wrong with taking a historical theme for a premise and making reasonable alterations in order to make the gameplay more appealing to a larger audience.
You people act like this is some kind of scifi alternate universe WWI just because a few types of firearms that existed are a bit more common. Its not like people are toting laser weapons and rewriting who won. You could bitch at the Wolfenstein devs if they had said their games were historically accurate, but BF1 is fine.
>>344992329
Yes you quoted me and you completely misunderstood my point, you're a fucking mongoloid.
>>344992403
>>344992554
>tumblr filename.
It's all making sense now.
>>344991943
So what if they're heavy? They were used with straps for marching fire maneuvers on enemy trenches and machine gun placements.
Are they better used in a prone position with the barrel resting? Of course, you get a massive accuracy bonus in the game when you set up an LMG.
Are they impossible to fire whilst moving? No, absolutely not.
Now fuck off retard retard retard retard retard retard retard retard.
>>344992403
>This game is a WW2 reskinned BF4 clone
>Make BF4 clone with WW2 theme
>Suddenly it feels like WW2
>Make BF4 clone with WW1 theme
>Suddenly it feels like WW2
Flawless logic anon.
>>344992030
>It existed
>It was used
>Added for more variety
Why shouldn't it count? Do you want less options in your video game?
>>344992403
I knew I couldn't ask people to stop memeing without getting a meme(You).
>>344992636
It really is distressing
>>344992796
More realistic options(or more realistic) would had make sense.
How about not everyone starting out with experimental weapons until you get a certain point percentage or score.
A normal grunt starts out with a standard issue bolt action rifle (nerf long range dmg so people won't cry about snipers) Then as the soldier shows more promise he upgrades to a experimental prototype weapon.
Did Dice fire their team after BC2? The games just feel so different now. BF3 was a fever nightmare and the only destruction in BF4 are scripted events that get boring after three matches.
>>344992886
>memeing.
It's not 2010 anymore anon.
>>344983957
ITT: People hating a battlefield game for being a battlefield game.
>>344993072
This will very probably be the case you moron. The past few BF games require you to play to unlock more weapons.
The game ain't even out yet. Stop talking in absolutes.
>>344992682
And there we go.
>Are they impossible to fire whilst moving?
You can pull the trigger. But you'd be firing at everything else save the target.
>Are they better used in a prone position with the barrel resting?
Not better used, that's is how it is used. You can't fire it from the hip and expect to the weapon to function properly. Even modern LMG's
>They were used with straps for marching fire maneuvers
So you can displace the fucking things and get them to another firing position.
You're not just retarded, you're a persistent retard. Which is the most retarded retard there is. I'd tell you to kill yourself, but your brain barely functions as it is.
BF1942 literally had a jetpack
>>344992510
"BF1943 felt like a WW2 game"
Amazing really, especially considering it was one
"This one also feels like a WW2 game"
Let me tell you something, ww2 game =/= actual ww2. Bf1942 isn't realistic, bf 1943 isn't realistic, BF:V isn't realistic, and surprise surprise, bf1 isnt realistic. Saying bf1 is a ww2 game based on bf 1943 is like watching transformers than complaining that real life isn't similar
>>344984820
it took three years anon what part of that is rushed
are their bolt action rifles in the game?
>>344993242
>This will very probably be the case you moron
I very much doubt that. Especially seeing they don't really have standard issue bolt action rifles. Hell they don't even have the french.
>>344992636
>what is Google.com, the web search engine that returns results even from tumblr
Fascinating
>>344993267
>You can't fire it from the hip and expect to the weapon to function properly. Even modern LMG's
Yet it's okay when BF2/3/4 does but not when BF1 does it? Gotcha.
Also machine guns in the game are literally extremely inaccurate unless you're using a bipod.
>>344993291
1942 was closer to WW2 than BFWW1 was to WW1. And BFWW1 is closer to WW2.
>>344993151
I know, it's the current year and I'm STILL getting memed on.
>>344993072
>locking op weapons behind skill or level
Sounds like a great way to get new players to quit
>>344993297
I just hope they didn't spent those 3 years like.
>1 year concept and planning
>1.5 years actual development
>6 months marketing
>>344993426
>using google to search reaction images.
You are only digging the hole deeper cancer.
>>344992796
I want suffering simulator, not happy arcade shitfest. Hell even making it a little bit more grounded would help. But no, instead we have a fucking tank class that easily drives at 40+km/h and farts gas clouds, together with zeppelin mounted artillery.
>>344993291
You are one daft piece of shit. Let me rephrase what I said in simpler terms for your tiny little brain to comprehend.
>WW2 GAME FEELS LIKE WW2 = GOOD
>WW1 GAME FEELS LIKE WW2 = BAD
Whether you agree or not that BF1 feels like a WW2 game is a different matter, but basically you're fucking retarded.
>fuck guys, we forgot how to design satisfying combined arms gameplay, the one thing that set us apart
>let's simply remove jets like in BC and Hardline
>Let's nerf helicopters like in every game since BF2
>let's place it in a setting where helicopters don't exist and airplanes were mainly used for reconnaisance
Those selfsatisfied lazy rich sellouts I swear
>>344993139
Bc2 was the bomb but the larger maps and bigger vehicle choice in 3/4 is nice as well
>>344993576
the weapons are largely fairly balanced
>>344993621
>I want suffering simulator, not happy arcade shitfest.
why are you playing Battlefield then?
>>344983957
>You are only digging the hole deeper cancer.
Not the anon you are talking to. But shut up you hypocritical cunt.
You people are missing the fucking point. Realism isn't the issue, DICE being fucking stupid is the issue.
They still haven't added vehicle entrance/exit animations despite them being the only way to make Tanks anything but a disposable shield/weapon loadout, Plus, now tanks LITERALLY have a "Press X To Repair" button. They fucking literally have that.
>>344993505
>but not when BF1 does it?
Don't carry that goalpost to far billy!
We were talking about the mobility of ww1 machineguns dumbass. And yes it would be a problem for bf1 due to the era it is portraying. Its portrayal not fiction, learn the difference you glue sniffing grade-school dropout.
>>344993267
Listen professor armchair because you're clearly not getting it.
The gun was used whilst NOT stationary. It wasn't too good.
The gun was used whilst stationary. It was pretty good.
You can do both in the game. Both will have different effects.
The gun will fire without being set up on a tripod, now for the love of god stop posting.
>>344984634
nice video
>>344993660
Not that anon but you're an idiot. He's basically saying:
>WW2 GAME =/= WW2
>WW1 GAME =/= WW1
>>344993394
The game DOES have standard bolts. You can aim down the irons with them. That is what you want, isn't it?
>>344993876
>They still haven't added vehicle entrance/exit animations
fuck you are stupid
>>344993835
I still have fond memories of bf2, pretty much, and hope that next bf will finally come back to the roots of the best battlefield game ea did.
>>344993621
If you want a sim you're in the wrong place friend. Battlefield has NEVER been a simulator of any kind.
>>344993876
wow, so many people have only watched 2 minutes of gameplay and are basing everything off that
its hilarious to see the average /v/ user and how fucking stupid they are.
>>344993915
>Its portrayal not fiction
>>344988443
I think it might be set in alternate reality and not in our world. Just like bioshock games
>>344988443
it doesnt, though
its just that 90% of the gameplay thats been shown is from the assault class, the only one that gets automatics
every other class gets bolt/lever actions.
>>344994018
They are sniper rifles anons. There shouldn't be scopes on them anyway (except for sniper class)
>>344994000
No he's not, he's saying "HURRR OBVIOUSLY WW2 GAME FEELS LIKE WW2 GAME". This isn't an argument about realism, you fucking shit stain. BF1943 felt like a WW2 game, why can't BF1 feel like a WW1 game? Kill yourself you dumb fucking shill.
>>344994104
BF2 didn't know whether it was a realistic shooter or an arcade shooter and it suffered because of it
PR was and still is far better than vanilla
>>344993915
>Its portrayal not fiction, learn the difference you glue sniffing grade-school dropout.
Right. WW1 was all about capping seven flags and running around with TNT slapped to your jeep and shiet.
Get your head out of your ass. Battlefield was never meant to be a war simulator, or a faithful representation of the era of any game in the series.
>>344994330
No, they are standard issue bolt rifles with scopes added to them.
>>344993516
So soldiers ran around Iwo jima with smgs reviving people from the dead and absorbing multiple bullets without issue? Stop pretending and battlefield game is realistic - literally none of them are representative of war.
I can see what you're saying - maybe dice should have just gone with ww2, but idk
>>344994308
From all the beta videos. It shows people with Rocket launchers, Sniper rifles, Machine guns,Shotguns,SMG, Sem-Automatic.
There has yet been footage shown of standard issue bolt action rifle.
>>344994391
It had nice balance between them, it might not have been perfect, but it was far more fun than anything bf related since 2142.
>>344993660
Except you have a warped image of ww2 and ww2 games feel nothing like actual ww2? Can you get that idea into that thick skull of yours or would that be asking too much?
>>344994410
Then unadd scopes and you have a game closer to WW1 than 2.
Literally that's all they had to do. It wasn't big or fancy.
>>344994409
1942 was though. Even the second expansion was really fucking good. I can understand you BF2142-shit players probably think otherwise.
>>344994539
>BF2
>balanced
you must be joking
>>344994663
>BF1942
>war simulator
>accurate representation of WWII
bitch, please
From what I can gather they didn't research what was around and used in the field at the time and turned it's pro and cons to 11 giving it challenging gameplay mechanic with a slightly over the top feel
instead they merely researched the most experimental, random tools and combatants and by setting that as a standard leading to every player being a nigger with a machinegun.
>>344994357
>BF1943 felt like a WW2 game, why can't BF1 feel like a WW1 game?
Feelings aren't a quantifiable measurement. You idea of what a game is supposed to "feel" like is different from person to person. Saying that BF1 doesn't feel like a WW1 game is your subjective opinion. An opinion you've been treating as fact with explaining your reasoning for it.
Either tell us concrete facts, or justify your opinion. You haven't done neither.
>>344993876
Was appearing completely ignorant part of your plan?
>>344994456
Even in pacific game Japanese had bolt action rifles they used. I think only in multiplayer they were given semi-automatic for balance.
>>344984942
>>344985034
>compression erases tesselation, lighting, details and foliage density
when will this fucking meme end. every time any game is downgraded the drones come out of the woodwork with this moronic shit
STOP POSTING THIS SHIT
>>344984936
Yea... No....
>>344994740
>most experimental, random tools
Only one of the guns is a prototype and it predates WW1.
>>344994532
>rocket launchers
What are you on about?
Type in "battlefield 1 bolt actions" into Google, I promise it'll be worth it
>>344994740
>The battlefield devs did exactly what they've always done with the battlefield series.
And this is bad because?
>>344988214
that sounds fucking awesome god fuck you you're the reason every fucking game is exactly the same and devs refuse to take risks kill yourself
Looks pretty good.The Mark V is my tankfu.
>>344994708
It had nice balance between full on simulator autism and arcade shitfest. Actual game balance was wonky and it was definitely deeply flawed, something that could have been fixed in future games, if ea wouldn't just throw concept out.
>>344985380
No thinking involved
>>344988214
In 1918 the war in the West wasn't like this anymore.
>>344994738
It was. I was there.
>>344994754
See the last sentence in my previous post >>344993660
>>344994880
How can you tell from a shitty youtube grab? You cannot see the detail because the quality is so shit. Use you brain cell.
>People defending the amount of smgs and semi auto rifles in this game
>People defending the bolt actions only being used as snipers in this game
$.10 has been added to your Origin account
>>344994646
What does scopes have to do with WW1 or WW2?
>>344994708
Not him but I personally think BF2 has a nice balance, minus for jets and their dumb bombs.
Tanks were fucking powerful, but all it took was too rockets in the tracks to get it burning (and destroyed if it doesn't get repaired). The fact that you could two shot a tank from the front, as long as you aimed properly was a nice counter-balance for how powerful they were.
Choppers were also powerful, but limited ammunition forced them to retreat to their uncap to get missiles, which prevented them from completely raping the map non-stop. Also, the bigger map and the fog of war prevented them from being able to see the entire map at any given time. And they'd get one shot'd by SRAW and ERYX, which were much easier to use back then.
Yeh, jets were retarded. But again, at least they had limited ammunition, forcing them to fly all the way back to their airbase after ever bomb kill.
>>344995167
Then stop treating your opinion like it's fact you mong.
>>344994646
rifle scopes existed in the 19th century what's the problem?
>>344986980
NO ONE PLAYS OBLITERATION
Keep posting this shit to piss off >>344994889
>>344995047
once PR came out it made BF2 seem like a cheap imitation
it didn't have the cerebral gameplay of PR/Squad and it also didn't have the more visceral and over the top gameplay of the later BF games
go back and play it now and it will become apparent quite quickly
>>344995346
Never did, you shit for brains just kept misunderstanding my point instead of arguing against my opinion, if you did then the argument would've been different. But you are too fucking stupid for that.
>>344992295
Obscure MODERN prototype weapons, because the games take place in a what if future period usually.
So no, it's really not okay when you say you're going for an 'authentic' WW1 game to not have authentic WW1 firearms.
>>344989665
Look up the Spring Offensive my man. It started the mobile phase of the war in the west.
>>344987241
Remember when you asked someone to explain 'braindead'? You have a great example of it always on hand.
>>344994754
you're pretty dumb stupid. feeling like world war 1 is just anons shitty way of saying the aesthetic, maps, and equipment captured a world war 2 battle more realistically and accurately than battlefield represents a realistic world war 1 battle. and he's right so fuck you
>>344994767
I watched a 30 minute or so gameplay video, I didn't see anybody climbing into or out of the tanks, and I saw the guy pressing a button to fix his tank, not even after 30 seconds of not being in combat.
>>344991505
You know thomas jefferson had a rifle that could fire off 20 rounds in about 4 seconds right?
So hey, let's do a revolutionary war game and just make that the standard issue rifle. It existed back then, it worked!
>>344994357
Can we break your argument down?
1943 = good because it "felt like a ww2 game"
So now the questions arises, what do you consider a ww2 game? One that feels like real-life ww2? Because if so, 1943 isn't a ww2 game. Additionally, why does a game have to resemble another game or fit into some arbitrary mold for it to be "good"? What happened to originality?
>>344995373
I see what you are doing and it's silly that you would play this game instead of admitting defeat shill.
Adding a scope to a bolt action rifle effectively turns it into a sniper rifle. They were used as sniper rifles in the game.
There are no Standard issue bolt action rifles within the game without scopes. They are less standard issue rifles than sniper rifles.
>>344995202
it literally just lowers the resolution you fucking idiot. shadows and tesselation and fucking tree density dont just disappear from dialing down the resolution.
>>344995375
Mixed mode servers do. Its probably the most fun gamemode 2bh
>>344995513
>Obscure MODERN prototype weapons, because the games take place in a what if future period usually.
Fiction set in modern times = okay. Fiction set in the past = not okay. Got it.
>when you say you're going for an 'authentic' WW1 game
[citation needed]
>>344995513
Show me the WW1 prototype weapons. Oh wait you can't, because the only prototype weapon in the game predates WW1.
>>344995621
Ok sounds good. Let me know when it's ready to play.
Am I the only one who's hoping there'll an equivalent to operation metro/lockers in BF1?
Before you all shit on me, I only think they are good maps below 32 players. 20 is ideal. I just find modern DICE map design really boring, which is weird because my favorite maps back in the days were typically the largest ones (Fushee Pass, Darqin Oilfields, to give you an idea). But today, when all DICE can come up with is shit like Golmud Highway, I dunno. I'd rather just play infantry.
Pls no bully.
>>344995373
>>344995303
Scopes were not standard issue in WWI.
They existed, but they were almost never added to rifles or machine guns, because they weren't very reliable.
>>344984454
>graphic settings are a thing
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
>>344995862
>golmud
>not the best map in the game
>>344988312
>Implying bolt actions were the primary infantry weapons in WW2
Maybe for Russia and Japan, but most nations used semi-auto rifles as their main infantry weapon
>>344995678
>What happened to originality?
DICE made a game and said it was set in WW1 and they were striving for historical accuracy. it's the reason they removed female models. kill yourself the rest of your points are fucking stupid as well
Guys, there're people who say frostbite engine 1.5 (the one used in BC2) was the best, and the newer BF3 and BF4 feel too much like CoD games. Will BF1 be as bad, a very run-of-the-mill Battlefront experience with Battlefield skin?
>>344995678
>What happened to originality?
Dead like the men in the trenches, since bf3.
>>344995983
>and they were striving for historical accuracy
source?
>>344995845
>>344995814
Show me the smg in this game that had over 50k units produced.
Show me just one of those smgs that had over 50k units.
Because the mp18, the most popular and "legendary" smg that would become the basis for actual decent semi working SMGs in the future, only saw some 30k units produced throughout WWI
>>344995869
are you joking me m8?
Snipers played a huge role in WW1, especially in the trenches.
>>344988868
Kek
Underrated
>>344995678
There are varying degrees of accuracy. 1943 was more truthful to WW2 than BF1 is truthful to WW1. BF1 feels more like a WW2 game as a result. This isn't rocket science.
>>344995753
battlefield games have a lot of weapon unlocks. scopes are something that existed at the time, thus they are usable in a game that has many weapon unlocks. I'm not even going to buy the game I'm just not a fucking moron and I understand how battlefield games work
>>344995981
No you moron, the only naton that had a standard issue semi-auto was the U.S.
>>344995959
Bre. it's a flat, symmetrical, bore-fest. Where the fuck are the Kubra Dams of Battlefield 4? Maps with interesting landscapes, and verticality to give at least some cover to choppers?
>>344995981
>but most nations
Only the US had semi-auto rifles as a standard.
Germans and Soviets had them but only equipped them to storm troops and in limited numbers.
