Why is the GameCube so often considered one of the worst Nintendo consoles?
It had excellent hardware considering it's size, was more powerful than the PS2 and Dreamcast, comfy as fuck controller, one of their more experimental periods with their IPs (Luigi's Mansion, Pikmin, Metroid Prime, Double Dash, Wind Waker) and they actually reached out for third party support which resulted in us getting REmake, Resident Evil 4, Viewtiful Joe, Killer7 and Eternal Darkness to name a few.
In terms of hardware it was superior to the N64 in every way, and it's library makes the WiiU's seem like a bad joke. So why all the hate?
doesnt matter how good the hardware is when you use mini discs, also most third party games sold like shit which is the reason why most of those games got ported overand the reason why we will never ever get another eternal darkness game
>>344980132
Since when did the gamecube get a bad reputation? I've never heard anyone complain about the console itself, in fact people say nothing but good things about it, especially the god-tier controller.
>It had excellent hardware considering it's size
>it had shitty hardware and mini discs but thats ok because they decided to make it really small!
i dont even dislike the gamecube but thats a stupid fucking argument
>>344980132
>In terms of hardware it was superior to the N64 in every way
thats because its suppose to have superior hardware compared to the n64
>>344980132
It was a good console with decent games.
>>344980132
I think you're confusing GC with Wii U.
>>344980132
>more powerful than PS2
>>344982231
>implying the Wii U is as powerful as the PS2
>>344980132
because it had a pathetic amount of exclusives when you factor in how video game development was back then
>>344981861
When has the size of the discs ever been an issue? Did people complain about the 360 not using Blu-Rays? No, because worst case scenario the devs would have to spread it across another disc, which has been the norm since the PS1.
>>344980132
It sold like shit because all other consoles could play DVD's, and at the end of the day most people who buy a console rather have one that can play games and movies than one that can just play games
>>344980132
The Gamecube is considered an improvement on the 64 which was a disaster.
>>344982426
>more powerful than PS2
It was. Just look at Resident Evil 4.
>>344982510
>When has the size of the discs ever been an issue?
its an issue when your competitors use disc formats that are four times as big. why do you think games like gta never got ported to gamecube?
>>344982426
Except it was, Ps2 had the shittiest version of every multiplat 6th gen. Sony didn't start caring about having good hardware until the PS3.
>>344983792
By then no one knew how to code for the ps3. Except those fucks for gow and uncharted
Very few Nintendo titles got a good game on it.
Rare started going to shit about that time.
Mario was worse, Zelda was worse.
Only little franchises like F-Zero got new good games on it. And Pikmin games are still not considered very big.
Metroid and Smash were the ones that sold the system.
>Comfy as fuck controller
No it wasn't
Your nostalgia is getting the better of you
That c stick was absolutely garbage
>>344980132
i thought it was great when i was a teenager, but looking back, it wasn't even a good console. the single analog controller gimped third party titles, and the zelda/mario games on it were not good. ocarina of time and majora's mask set up a good theme for the 3D zelda series and then wind waker killed it and it has never returned.
>watching reviews on the run and seeing tommy & vic shit on every gamecube exclusive
kek at the time it mind me kinda glad i never got one, but i do regret it now because the games are so fucking expensive
>Was more powerful than PS2
AHAHAAHAHAHAHAH NINTENDRONES EVERYONE, NINTENDRONES! PS2 was the most powerful console of that gen, everyone knows it, every expert knows it and not underages like you who keep going with this meme, PS2 could process more polygons than the FUCKING WII, and some commie or terrorist or whatev used them to launch missiles! PS2 was the best console, the one with mature games for adult people not like that kiddie fucking shit with "Mario got leukemia" fucking hell, PS2 was my 1st console so I know it very well
>>344980132
The library is so small
But every game worth playing is 10/10
>>344983792
What? Most gamecube games had blurry as fuck textures and shitty framerates compared to their PS2 versions. Games like the Capcom ports are exceptions.
>>344986275
It also has an extremely high ratio of translated to untranslated JP games.
Aside from licensed games, there's only like 10 games that never made it to the west...and almost all of them are pretty damn good.
>>344986275
>>344987485
Seriously, Super Monkey Ball 2, F-Zero GX, Mario Party 4-7, Kirby Air Ride, Mario Kart Double Dash, Smash Melee (regardless of what you think about the community the game was fun as fuck and miles ahead of 64), Custom Robo, GC had so many great exclusives.
In my personal opinion, and I know I'll get flak for this, but the Gamecube/PS2 era was kind of this sweet spot for video games where 3D had broken in long enough to stop being used as gimmicky shit, the technology was good enough to basically make anything you wanted as long as it wasn't an MMO or something, and a lot of cool ideas got thrown around because people stopped buying into the collectathon/Nintendo Power bullshit. I'm kind of disappointed that we haven't really had a console like that since.
>>344982510
>Did people complain about the 360 not using Blu-Rays?
Yes they did.
>>344980132
It had no fucking games. The GC is easily the most overrated console here.
>in b4 someone posts the same 10 titles they do in every GC thread
If Nintendo had used DVDs instead of mini-discs, I think the GC would have done way better. The reason I traded mine in was the lack of third-party games.
Actually the PS2 just dominated that generation in terms of exclusives anyway.
It's really only good for Smash and Pikmin. (f-zero to if that's your thing)
It was the second best console of that generation behind the Dreamcast. Too bad /v/ overrates the PS2 because of muh Japanese waifu sims. Seriously, the PS2 was shit. Any good game on it was ported to the Xbox and was significantly improved.
Dreamcast > Gamecube > Xbox > PS2
>>344980132
It was one of their better consoles. SNES will always be king of Nintendo to me though.
>>344987932
Fuck off. 6th gen was one of the worst gens in gaming. Aside from gta trilogy, nothing good came from it. Every gen prior and even 7th gen blow 6th gen out the fucking water.
>>344988812
f zero is bullshit when you have outrun 2, sega gt, and forza motorsport on xbox
>>344989259
GTA is nothing special. 6th had much better games than those. I think you might just have really shitty taste.
>>344989714
Name some.
>>344980132
No dvd support
I think smallest third party library
Gamecube was fucking sick though. in retrospect most of those ps2 third party games were fucking garbage anyway
MOST NOT ALL CALM YOUR FUCKING TENDIES
>>344989776
dmc1 and 3 were infinitely better and more fun than any GTA. GTA games especially in 6th gen had mediocre to awful gameplay and were just sandboxy autism simulators.
>>344990042
Oh, you're an edgy weeb.
>>344990042
Why would I play devil may cry when I can play Comix Zone or Streets of Rage? Devil May Cry is nothing special and is a 6/10 at best,
>>344990042
>weebshit
top lel
>>344990042
Godawful tastes
>>344990042
you could have picked any game and thats what you seriously pick?
>>344985051
/thread
Besides the only good games were killer 7, eternal darkness, remake/4, fzero, smash and whatever scraps from dreamcast. Wind waker had shit art design because it couldn't handle actual water, prime got oddworld and was turned into a generic fps, sunshine water gimmick was shit. In the end it had as many good games as the Xbox. Also iwata started the lazy trend of no mario at launch
>>344990198
>>344990253
>>344990338
"I don't play games for the gameplay" That's you guys.
>>344990242
Yer dumb.
>>344990413
I could have picked pretty much anything and it would have beaten GTA. I just picked a game I enjoy. God Hand is also better than the entire GTA library rolled into one.
>>344986803
Look at Symphonia, the Gamecube version was far superior to the PS2 version despite the PS2 version releasing afterwards. The James Bond games are well known for running better on Gamecube as well. Some games took advantage of the PS2, but for the most part it goes Xbox>Gamecube>PS2>Dreamcast. PS2 would have been trash if it wasn't saved by it's library and the DVD player.
>>344980132
It didn't have star fox 64
it didn't have goldeneye
it didn't have perfect dark
it didn't have pilot wings
it didn't have sm64
it didn't have duke nukem 64
it didn't have doom 64
it didn't have halo
it didn't have project gotham racing 2
it didn't have TOCA race driver
it didn't have segaGT 2002
it didn't have fable
it didn't have shenmue 2
it didn't have MechAssault
it didn't have RTCW multiplayer
it didn't have fusion frenzy
I could probably go on but you get the gist.
>>344990569
No it goes
Xbox>Dreamcast>PS2>Gamecube
>>344982868
>its an issue when your competitors use disc formats that are four times as big.
You'd be hard pressed to find a game that used an eighth of that space back then.
Not even GTA came close.
>>344990532
Doing combos isn't the only for of gameplay,
>>344986803
Try using the composite cable.
>>344990745
Bait.
Look at RE4 or Skies of Arcadia: Legends.
>>344990846
explain to me why gta was never on the gamecube then
>>344990745
>putting the PS2 that high when it had the lowest quality games of the bunch
Nah Xbox > GC > PS2
Dreamcast was somewhere in between the generations.
>>344989259
>second golden age of gaming
>shit
Sure is summer in here
>>344980132
Well, if it makes you feel any better, 6th gen overall was pretty weaksauce. After Dreamcast, it was all downhill, Games were far too easy, casualized, and story centric that gen
>>344990884
GTA has garbage gameplay man. Racing games drive better, shooting games shoot better, it's just a bunch of garbage slapped together in a sandbox. If you're not the type of person to "make your own fun" and fuck around in a sandbox they offer nothing.
>>344991013
Who knows, money hatting, wrong audience, third party games selling like shit if it wasn't something like Sonic?
>>344991078
/v/ isnt going to listen to you because most people here grew up during 6th gen, its funny because /vr/ will unanimously agree with you though
>>344990745
PS2 was slightly stronger than Dreamcast but Dreamcast could do texture compression and filtering better. Multiplats that ran on both have positives and negatives. But again, Gamecube was better than PS2 for multiplats. This might surprise you, but Nintendo used to care about hardware. SNES and Gamecube were both pretty great, and N64 was no slouch either (hence the bragging about 64-bit). PS2 only sold so well in the west because it had a DVD player and was backwards compatible with PSX.
>>344991034
>second golden age of gaming
No, you're the summer unfortunately. It's a well known fact gaming died after the new millennium. 6th gen is proof of that.
>>344991013
Different anon here, because GTA is for kids on welfare to teach them their future.
>>344991078
>>344991209
To be fair there were gems sprinkled throughout. Shit like Viewtiful Joe was a masterpiece and it's a shame we can't even get a HD re-release.
>>344991248
Wait we're talking about power?? I thought we were talking about libraries, guy.
>>344991209
I grew up in 4th gen, first console was a Sega Genesis. 6th gen is by far my favorite, had a Gamecube and Xbox and loved them both.
6th>4th=5th>7th>>>8th
>>344991494
ok?
>>344980132
Gamecube didn't have Vice City or Metal Gear, so it lost.
>>344991393
>I thought we were talking about libraries, guy.
I'm calling bullshit because you clearly acknowledged the fact that it was about power
>>344991393
Uh, yeah? My whole post was about hardware and multiplats, not exclusive libraries.
>>344991034
>dreamcast introduced on disc dlc
>xbox made paid online a norm
>dedicated video game consoles werent dedicated video game consoles
>the console of choice had shit tier hardware
golden age my ass
>>344991494
What are you getting at? Doesn't change tat games were far too easy and "cutscene-centric" in 6th gen.
Xbox games > PS2 games > GC games
Did any of you fags play Crimson Skies on Xbox Live? What about the other xbox games? No you did not.
>>344991531
The post was saying the only people who like 6th gen grew up with it. I know a lot of people here had PS2 as their first console but as someone who experienced 4th gen firsthand I can say 6th gen was my favorite. So no, it's not just nostalgia.
>>344991753
You do realise how old the PS2 is right?
Even if you started gaming in the 80s you could still have nostalgia for the PS2.
>>344980132
I had an xbox and dreamcast that gen. Gamecube only got sloppy seconds with a couple ports.
>>344990242
because DMC is way better than both of those games
>>344990042
My nigg
>>344991753
you can have nostalgia for things that are over 10 years old, regardless how old you were at the time dumbass
>>344991565
Well it did have Metal Gear, just not 2 and 3.
>>344991248
The Snes was not so great hardware-wise. The technology it used was already three years old when it came out, but that was Nintendo's design philosophy, using hardware that developers had experience with. They didn't do that with the N64 so most of the early library, especially third party, runs an looks like shit.
>>344991753
you're obviously lying about your age since you dont having a fucking clue what nostalgia means
>>344992047
In all honesty more companies should try and follow that philosophy.
We'd probably get more games of quality if that happened.
>>344991753
>>344991887
none of those consoles had anything that could be considered a classic. It was really a "meh" period in gaming. A really boring time if you're coming off the ps1 and n64 and EVEN the saturn with the likes of virtua fighter 2, virtua racing, ff7, gran turismo 2, ocarina of time, waverace 64, pilotwings 64, majora's mask, perfect dark, crash bandicoot, tekken 3, street fighter alpha 3, medal of honor, siphon filter, symphony of the night, etc.
>>344992034
*Well it did have the worst metal gear
fify
it had better hardware than the other consoles of that generation of consoles.
it honestly feels like nintendo's edgiest console but maybe that's just because i'm comparing it to their current "EVERYTHING HAS TO BE WHITE AND APPEAL TO SMALL INFANTS!" style.
>>344992338
It may be called Twin Snakes but it's not 2.
>>344992207
Well, not really. It just means that many early system games won't take advantage of the hardware and games won't have room to improve. Devs will still use old methods to bring out games on new systems and will adapt during the generation. If you give them trusted hardware they won't adapt and the games will be as good technically as they were on launch. Someone has to pioneer the tech. Back in the day we had arcades for that, now I guess they just release beta versions of games.
>>344992207
The WiiU followed that philosophy, didn't work out too well.
>>344992437
that's some godawful taste, anon
>>344992437
I'm not a fan of metal gear series really (too many cutscenes and nonsensical plot), but I liked the gameplay and bosses in 2 far better than 3. 3 was way too easy and had a weird fucking camera setup. I also hated that once again, you couldn't play as snake. The environments were also really boring and I hated going in menus every few seconds
>>344980132
The games were disappointing.
Super Mario Sunshine
Zelda WW and Zelda TTP
Super Mario Kart Double Dash
F-Zero GX
Star Fox Adventures and Assault
Wave Race Blue Storm
1080 Avalanche
Battalion Wars
Wario World
They were all let downs in their respective series.
I also argue that the N64 versions of Paper Mario and Smash Bros were better than the GCN versions.
Cubivore was cool. Pikmin and Luigi's Mansion were barely even half-games. They were tiny.
The Gamecube is when Nintendo's games stopped being significantly better than the competition
>>344992518
>didn't work out too well.
You say that but they have the most stable games.
>>344992713
>The Gamecube is when Nintendo's games stopped being significantly better than the competition
To be honest, Nintendo's games were never significantly better.
>>344992253
Half the titles you listed are either not classic or had superior entries in 6th gen.
>>344992790
The NES, SNES and N64 libraries beg to differ.
>>344992910
Not to mention Gameboy :)
>>344992910
>N64 libraries
>>344992910
>N64
>Better
>>344985485
x-play also shitted on the gc, especially morgan
>>344992910
No they don't. I'd say the Nes library isn't much better than contemporary arcade games, nor is it much better than the Master System. The Mega Drive and Neo Geo both had a better library than the Snes if you don't like waifu games, and the N64 was far worse than the Saturn and Playstation libraries. The N64 was just terrible library-wise.
>>344992793
>had superior entries in 6th gen
>>344991265
It died with the 360 and its grave is currently being shit on by the PS4 and Xbone
>>344993005
>>344993027
Yes, the N64 was better than the Playstation and Saturn.
>>344993454
In what way?
>>344993454
no it wasnt, n64 library was complete dog shit. it was somewhat saved by rare which made it mediocre at best
>>344993292
>It died with the 360
>not with ps2
>>344982072
It objectively had better hardware than the PS2.
>>344987485
like what games?
>>344993554
even then there's no goldeneye or perfect dark.. thus what's the point?
>>344993486
It had Super Mario 64, Zelda OOT, Star Fox 64, Super Mario Kart 64, F-Zero X, Wave Race 64, Super Smash Bros. They are the main first party games, then if you want to go to exclusives...
>>344993145
>Mega Drive
Like I would trust any European's opinions on Nintendo
>>344993182
VF4>VF2
GT3>GT2
Tekken 5>3
MoH Frontline>MoH
And Siphon Filter, Crash, Waverace, Pilotwings, Virtua Racing, and SFA3 are either good but not classic, forgettable or even shit.
>>344993784
You know it was Mega Drive literally everywhere except America right?
>>344993672
>Super Mario 64
This game is alright, if a bit bare.
>Zelda OOT
I've never like Zelda games after the first two. Too much story, too many easy puzzles. Just a somewhat interesting world.
>Star Fox 64
A decent space shooter, but is nowhere near as good as Panzer Dragoon
>Super Mario Kart 64
Poor control, lack of content, requires four players to be decent, but suffers technically with four players.
>F-Zero X
Good game. About as good as Wipeout, great music, but the graphics obviously suffered for the framerate.
>Wave Race 64
Never understood why people liked this.
>Super Smash Bros
Crappy platform brawler, I'd rather play a real fighting game like SFA3 or Virtua Fighter.
>>344994045
this is an american website faggot
>>344992713
>Super Mario Sunshine
The problem right here.
They need a new Mario, but 3D World was ten years away.
>>344982469
Nigga I have almost ever GameCube game exclusive to the system except 15 and that number is over at least 80 games. That's more then what ps4 and wii u have exclusive wise.
>>344994140
You're on British internet, kiddo.
>>344982042
I think its reputation has gone up significantly in the past few years. It used to be considered really bad.
>>344994176
>That's more then what ps4 and wii u have exclusive wise.
yeah, that really isnt saying much
>>344994176
>that number is over at least 80 games
bullshit. name them
>>344994315
I got you right now senpai give me a second
>>344994245
>It used to be considered really bad.
You've got it backwards, until recently it was considered one of the best controllers outside of that D-pad as of late people seem to be changing their tune.
>>344993785
Nope, nope, nope all wrong.
The overwhelming majority on this board will agree Virtua Fighter 2 is better than 4, GT2 is better than 3, Tekken 3 is better than 5, first MoH is better than Frontline, and you're full of shit for saying those other games aren't classic and that Final Fantasy 7, Ocarina of Time, Symphony of the Night are big deals. 6th gen had nothing, absolutely nothing. And it's really been a trend. Shit has gotten progressively worse since the late 70's. The prime was early 80's. There a little bit of a spike in the early 90's on the pc front, but other than that, shit has gotten worse and worse and now it's at an all time low where you can't even die in games and there's nothing but big empty worlds. It's bullshit. Play a game like Xevious or Castlevania 3 and compare it to what was in 6th gen. Bullshit.
>>344990846
Metal Gear games, Bemani games,Okami, even Megaman, etc.
>>344994630
>Bemani games
what?
>>344994504
And by "overwhelming majority of the board" I assume you mean yourself, because I never see those opinions but in shamed whispers, especially Tekken. It sounds to me like you're taking your own pet faves and experiences as the truth.
>>344990506
>Wind waker had shit art design
>prime was turned into a generic fps
>sunshine water gimmick was shit
>iwata started the lazy trend of no mario at launch
What the fuck? Is this bait? I sincerely hope is it
Here's a list of at least decent N64 games:
BattleTanx
Extreme-G
Extreme-G 2
Turok: Dinosaur Hunter
Turok 2: Seeds of Evil
Ogre Battle 64: Person of Lordly Caliber
Snowboard Kids
Resident Evil 2
Beetle Adventure Racing!
Glover
Bomberman 64
Forsaken 64
Shadowgate 64: Trials of the Four Towers
Top Gear Rally 2
WinBack
Castlevania
Goemon's Great Adventure
Hybrid Heaven
Top Gear Rally
Body Harvest
Doom 64
Mario Golf
Mario Tennis
Star Wars: Rogue Squadron
Tetrisphere
Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards
Pokémon Snap
Super Smash Bros.
Bomberman 64
Paper Mario
Excitebike 64
Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire
1080° Snowboarding
Animal Crossing
F-Zero X
The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Mario Kart 64
Star Fox 64
Super Mario 64
Wave Race 64
Pilotwings 64
Banjo-Kazooie
Blast Corps
Diddy Kong Racing
GoldenEye 007
Mischief Makers
Sin and Punishment
Fighters Destiny
Conker's Bad Fur Day
Jet Force Gemini
Perfect Dark
Chameleon Twist
Space Station Silicon Valley
Buck Bumble
Rocket: Robot on Wheels
Rayman 2: The Great Escape
>>344995363
He's fucking right you underage shitter. The gamecube was a piece of shit. Everyone felt it was Nintendo's worst console by far, but we didn't know how much worse it could get.
>>344995551
Rayman 2 is much better on Dreamcast.
>Mario sunshine
>Mario Party 4-7
>Mario Baseball
>Mario Strikers
>Luigis Mansion
>Mario Kart Double Dash
>Mario DDR Mix
>Tube Slider
>Custom Robo
>Chibi Robo
>Eternal Darkness
>F-Zero GX
>Metroid Prime 1 & 2
>WWE Day of Reckoning 1 & 2
>Super Smash Bros Melee
>Space Invaders
>Bloody Roar
>Baiten Kaitos 1 & 2
>Ikargua
>Skies of Arcadia
>Fire Emblem
>Donkey Konga 1 & 2
>Donkey Kong Jungle Beat
>Kirby Air Ride
>Mega Man Network Transmission
>Cubivore
>Lost Kingdoms 1 & 2
>Gotcha Force
>Ultimate Muscle
>Spirits and Spells
>Metal Gear Twin Snakes
>Animal Crossing
>Go Go Hypergrind
>Odama
>Harvest Moon (3 games)
>Godzilla Destroy All Monsters
>Billy Hatcher
>1080 Avalanche
>Battalion Wars
>Bomberman Generations
>Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles
>Pokemon 1 & 2
>Legend of Zelda Wind Waker
>Twilight Princess
>Geist
>Medabots
>P.N.03
>Phantasy Star Online
>Paper Mario
>Star Fox Assault & Adventures
>Star Wars rogue squadron 1 & 2
>Wario World
>Resident Evil 4
Whew still missing a few, but that's off the top of my head. There ya go
>>344985051
>That c stick was absolutely garbage
this is true, but the GC controller is the most comfy to use for long periods of time
And just remember that the 360 controller was based off of the GC controllers design
>>344995754
In reply to this >>344994315
>>344995701
True, you can remove that one.
>>344995754
Did you just put Mario Party and Dreamcast games in there to inflate your list? Holy shit. Space Invaders? Donkey Konga? Fuck off.
>>344995636
>The gamecube was a piece of shit
see >>344995754
>>344995754
Skies of Arcadia is a Dreamcast game, you fucking idiot.
>>344995754
all those games are shit though
>>344994437
I thought people always liked the controller but disliked everything else.
>>344995754
some of these games are multiplats you fucking retard
>>344990506
Nevermind all that other nonsense, Iwata wasn't even president at GC launch. You can't even get history right.
It was the best of it's generation. Only sold poorly due to lack of a dvd player and a controller that isn't good for FPS which became the dudebro genre.
>>344995754
The only games in that list that could be called a killer app is Res 4.
Paper Mario is excellent but the N64 version was better.
P.N. 03 is awesome but it's fairly short so I won't call that a killer app.
The Metroid Prime games were decent but they are quite slow paced and ultimately boring.
>>344996018
They liked the thing as a whole bar the d-pad. Not because it was a bad d-pad but because of the placement. No one really focused on that though because it was rarely used as a means of movement anyway.
>>344995754
>all this literal who shovelware
>Mario DDR Mix
>Megaman Network
Holy fuck, how old is the average kid posting on /v/ now? This is getting sad.
>>344990627
>The gamecube wasn't the N64
No shit
Also
>halo
>fable
>shenmue
All exclusives for their respective consoles
>>344996202
Oh and I hear Kirby's Air Ride is fun but I never played that.
>>344996247
The dpad is too small, it sucks to play GB games with.
Solid console, especially judging by how much the games are worth these days. Although >>344995754 is still a shit list. Really, like usual, first party titles are the main ones worth it. Baiten Kaitos and Tales of Symphonia are some good third party exclusives.
>>344996284
It's shit, don't bother. Just play Mario Kart on snes
>>344996543
tales of symphonia is not an exclusive
GameCube was good fun. The whomp minigame in Mario Party 4 basically gave me my button mashing skills
>>344995940
Space Invasers for the GameCube was a whole different game and was actually good
>>344996743
Yes it was
>>344996921
it was on ps2 dumbass
>>344996743
It might as well have been.
>>344996743
>>344996921
It was ported to PS2 in Japan only. At the time of its release it was a gamecube exclusive.
>>344996986
>>344996981
>>344996921
>>344996743
It was only released for PS2 in Japan. Never in the US.
The thing about the gamecube is it was Iwata's first console, and he seemed to panic. For the N64 they would continually delay games until they were close to perfect, but for Gamecube they began rushing games. It seemed like they were afraid to delay games. They also farmed out franchises like Star Fox and F-Zero rather than build them in house, so they prioritised having franchise games released rather than releasing good games.
>>344997074
>Muh Murrica
Please stop this.
>>344996921
It was ported to PS2 a year later in Japan
>>344993454
The N64 has the worst library of any Nintendo console. The Wii and Wii U have better libraries. N64 is only remembered fondly for Mario and Zelda hoping 3D.
>>344996989
>>344997074
so its not an exclusive, gotcha
>>344982510
>Did people complain about the 360 not using Blu-Rays
Frequently, it was a big deal back then.
>>344997152
Who gives a fuck about Japan?
>>344997128
At least letting Sega make F zero made it a much better game.
>>344997234
The people who know it's not an exclusive.
>>344997178
The N64 library easily beats the Gamecube and it probably beats the Wii U as well. You probably didn't play most of the good games.
>>344992713
I liked all of those games
>>344997360
>You probably didn't play most of the good games.
You can count the good games on your hand.
>>344997241
No, because Sega made the controls too finickity and messed up the feel of the game.
People ask for exclusives
>it's shit! They all have to be 10/10
This thread just proves the shit taste /v/ has
>>344997468
Well I listed over 40 up thread.
>>344980132
PS2 could play dvds during a time when a dvd player cost several hundred dollars.
>>344997609
t.underage
>there are people that seriously still think that the PS2 is stronger than the Gamecube
Can you lot just fucking kill yourselves? Holy shit.
>>344997505
They made it much better. Git gud.
>>344997505
F-Zero GX is the best F-Zero game ever made.
>>344997730
Yeah, they can kill themselves along with retards that think the Gamecube was stronger than the Xbox.
>>344997779
>>344997792
Git gud... you mean, learn snaking?
Both the SNES and N64 F-Zeros are better. SNES F-Zero is an excellent game.
LISTEN PEOPLE
Gamecube had Wind Waker, Pikmin, Eternal Darkness, Melee, ad Metroid Prime. THAT'S it!!
Everything else is shovelware or multiplats. That is why Gamecube failed and is shit. Not enough great exclusive games, shit aesthetic, and didn't have online nor the biggest games of the gen like gta
>>344997656
It's true though, DVD players were fuckin expensive then and the PS2 was one that sold for less and could play games.
There was no reason not to buy it because it was more bang for your buck.
That said it was kind of an Action 52 deal because you were shafted on a lot of multiplats
>>344997986
Exactly. The best fzero is still snes one. Hasn't been surpassed and doubt ever will be
>>344986162You have to be 18 or over to post on 4chan.
>>344995551
>Fighter's Destiny
>Snowboard Kids
>Castlevania 64
> at least decent N64 games:
You're really stretching it there, but ok, using that same standard the PS1 list would be fucking huge.
>>344998115
Except for GX.
The only people who complain about it are the ones that suck.
>>344998259
The Saturn was better than the Playstation.
>>344994176
the PS4 is catching up to that number
>>344998115
I agree. The early SNES era of EAD was my favourite era. The original Pilotwings is probably the quintessential EAD game from that era.
>>344998386
I own and enjoy games on my Saturn as well friend, but let's not act crazy here.
>>344998436
You can stop samefagging now.
>>344998386
How? It didn't even have Final Fantasy VII
>>344998421
Exclusive? What games? Honestly not even trying to be a dick cause I haven't heard anything about exclusives and I own a PS4
>>344998501
But he's not though.
>>344998496
The Playstation library is extremely overrated. Too many waifu games and crappy mascot games. The Saturn was way better, also 2D > 3D.
>>344998496
This
>>344998542
I don't care about waifu story 'games'.
>>344998620
(You)
>>344998712
You are a faggot that's never even played 7. Promptly get away from your screen and kill yourself
>>344998259
Hmm, PS1 had a number of games that were quite a bit better than those. But the Nintendo 1st party games coupled with games of that calibre made it a good library. The Gamecube didn't even have charming, memorable though ultimately flawed games like those. Most gamecube games were just awful. The PS1 had a lot of decent games but lacked the killer apps that the N64 had.
>>344998562
Well there's Infamous Second Son, Disgaea 5, Resogun, Uncharted 4, Klaus, Last Guardian, Alienation, Amplitude, Shadow of the Beast, Nitroplus Blasterz, DoA Xtreme 3, KOF XIV, No Man's Sky, Spiderman, Death Stranding, Ace Combat 7, Nier Automata, Kingdom Hearts 2.8, World of Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest Builders, definitive version of Final Fantasy XV, Gran Turismo Sport, etc.
>>344998835
I call all JCRPGs waifu shit. Why would I want to play some weeaboo story 'game'?
>>344998953
I consider the FF Trilogy, MGS 1, Gran Turismo, Crash, and Tomb Raider killer apps
>>344998627
>Too many waifu games and crappy mascot games.
PS1 had more of everything. You had solid action games like Syphon Filter, Tenchu and Metal Gear, good racing like Gran Turismo, Jet Moto, Rollcage, and Ridge Racer, then you had an absolute fuckload of RPG's. While Saturn had some real gems, it's library couldn't hold a candle to the PS1.
>>344998954
You do know that if it's on PC as well it's not exclusive right?
>>344985485
>Baten Kaitos is 4.5
That better have been out of five, game was fucking tight.
>>344998954
That's cool. Just wish more stuff caught my eye. It's really just shooters and anime games
>>344999071
>Tomb Raider
Was on PC and Saturn. Every single Tomb raider game has been released on PC.
>>344998954
There are probably 2 exclusives there worth playing. I'm not weeb so animu game that isn't xenoverse doesn't tickle me.
>>344999071
Good games but Mario 64, OOT, SMK64, SF64 alone are superior.
>>344999073
Metal Gear Solid is really overrated. Too much story shit, no good gameplay.
None of those racers are worth playing, and RP'G's are for autistic weeaboos with no motor skills.
>>344999247
>None of those racers are worth playing
You're trying too hard little shitposter.
>>344999190
That game was straight dog doo doo. One of the worst jrpg's of that gen. And that's saying a lot since that was the second worst gen for jrpg's
>>344999292
How? Maybe they were okay if you needed an alternative to the arcade, but when MAME exists there's no point to playing those PS games.
>>344998712
And yet you like the saturn, whose library is a massive deluge of VNs and games that make anime girls their main selling point.
>>344999292
He's right though. I'd rather play Daytona, Manx TT, and Virtua Racing than fucking RIIIIIIIIIIDGE RACERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Fuck outta here
>>344999247
I wouldn't call MGS over rated. It's a monumental game. Clearly Nintendo realised they had missed out so they somewhat bizarrely financed the Twin Snakes and had the Eternal Darkness guy work on it.
>>344999421
>when MAME exists there's no point to playing those PS games.
You can't play anything like Rollcage on MAME. Gran Turismo either as far as I know.
>>344998008
>shit aesthetic
Well sorry it's not a boring ass black rectangle that blends into your TV set so people don't notice it. GC is pleasing to look at btw so fuck you
>>344991565
>or Metal Gear
Is that really a bad thing?
>>344998008
You forgot Sunshine
>>344999471
The PS1's library of racing trounces the Saturn's m8. Let go.
>>344999461
The Saturn is best known for its arcade ports and arcade style games, not for the waifu shit. That's the PS' domain.
>>344999497
It's just story bullshit.
>>344999667
Sunshine is the worst 3d mario game
>>344999667
It would have been better if Nintendo never released Sunshine. It was awful.
>>344999759
The worst Mario game is still fun you know.
>>344999548
You clearly don't know much. There were way better racers in arcades at the time.
>>344999421
When MAME exists there is no reason to touch inferior Saturn ports.
>>344999810
If you like dicking around in a big empty world and doing bitch quests then maybe, but you'd be a small minority
>>344999341
Did you even play the game
>ctrl+f
>only one mention of Gotcha Force
>>344999896
Actually, many Saturn ports improved upon the originals.
>>344999853
Like what? What was even anything like the inventive level design or puzzle mode in Rollcage?
>>344999706
I'd venture that the N64 had a better racing library than either of them, by virtue of the fact that it had a larger number of solid racers. As well as Wave Race 64 and F-Zero X which are excellent.
>>344999896
Hey, when MAME exists, there's no real point in touching any consoles if we're using that argument. Nothing but shit stories. Rather play Robotron, Bubbles, and Choplifter
>>345000024
Hi, underage!!
>>344994245
>>344982042
>>344980132
I've never seen this opinion outside /v/, and I've REALLY only seen this opinion in the last 2 years or so.
Suddenly people hated the gamecube. Guess I'll just erase all those memories of having a fuckton of fun with it.
Thanks /v/ you know best
kys (kisses you's) xoxo
>>345000037
Which ones?
>>345000258
There's a reason for that.
>>344980132
The Wii U is hands down the worst.
The GC at least got some multiplats..
>>344996257
People who were 10 when the GameCube came out are 25 now.
>>345000258
You must be 19 or so. Everyone shitted on the gamecube in magazines, tv, and in college
>>345000429
>Everyone shitted on the gamecube in magazines, tv, and in college
What?
I have magazines from then and none of them paint the GC in a bad light.
>>344999759
>>344999761
>>344992713
>>344990506
What's with all the Mario Sunshine hate? Fludd was fine, level we're relatively open, and the difficulty was just right. You can't blame Ninty for not rehashing Mario 64.
It might not be the same as Mario 64, but compared to Mario Galaxy, it's GOTY.
>>344980132
lack of proper online (people only used the broadband adapter to load homebrew and hack in PSO)
ports ended up being worse (ssx tricky runs worse than ps2, wrath of cortex got its graphics downgraded for gc, etc)
also, the disc drive was prone to failure and had to be recalibrated after a few years of use.
>>345000429
>not exclusively reading Nintendo Power back in the early 2000's
Regardless I never saw other magazines shitting on the gamecube, in fact I'd say 6th gen was probably the most peaceful generation all around given how every console had a fantastic library.
>>344980132
>Why is the GameCube so often considered one of the worst Nintendo consoles?
It's not.
>>345000715
>ports ended up being worse
Vast majority of multiplats performed better than the PS2.
>>345000790
name 5
>>345000746
>Nintendo Power
It is literally, LITERALLY, a gigantic advertisement. Literally. They weren't even subtle with that shit.
>>345000680
It's just memeing faggots, anyone with taste knows that Sunshine is a top tier Mario game.
>>344993646
Stuff like Giftpia, Kururin, Homeland, the Nintendo Puzzle Collection. Good stuff, but niche.
>>344980132
The people who hated the Gamecube on its release are the same dumbfucks who thought hardware was more important than software. Considering that, at the time, the Gamecube was going up against Xbox and PS2, yes, it wasn't a top-of-the-line machine in that regard.
You're ten types of retarded if you'd rather have the game libraries of the PS2 or Xbox over the Gamecube, though, which is what really matters, so in conclusion, people who care about hardware on their game consoles are fucking idiots. (A PC rig will beat them all any day of the week, anyway.)
>>345000879
And yet they managed to make such a genuinely fun community, I miss reading their editorials.
Also Nintendo went to shit when they went out of business.
>>345000790
They really didn't. Most games had worse textures and framerate issues on GameCube compared to PS2. RE4 is one of the exceptions.
>>344980132
Every Nintendo console after the SNES was subpar. The gamecube is one of the better ones, but still worse than the consoles it competed with, and people arent nostalgic for it yet like the N64, so it ends up getting the most flak.
SNES > Gamecube > NES > Wii U > N64 > Wii
>>345000807
entire Splinter Cell series
Any sports game you can imagine
Def Jam series
X2: Wolverine's Revenge
Resident Evil 4
Mortal Kombat games
