I... I don't even...
I cri. :(
>>344969672
>He get's the shield
I fucking hate you. Been farming on my Warrior and pally to THIS FUCKING DAY....nothing.
>>344970468
>tfw I've had both it and the Blackrock Bulwark drop
>>344969672
>hunter
>no CM gear or wep
>farming old ass raids
As welfare as welfare gets.
Huh?
380+ LK 25 HC kills, no Invincible drop.
Math wise over the course of that many runs there's a 97% chance of it dropping at least once, so I have really shitty luck.
>>344971840
Killed Yogg more than 400 times myself and haven't seen the mount drop, either.
RNG sucks.
Oh no... WoW itch.
>>344971538
>complaining about welfare in a casual game
>>344971538
who cares, you stupid faggot
it literally doesn't affect you in any way
I got the starter pack for like $8 and I'm playing this since quitting on wotlk. What the fuck did they do? People in full heirlooms at the same lvl as me have more than double the hp and can 1 hit me. Dungeons are fucking awful you don't need tanks or healers anymore and I heard people in full heirlooms can solo dungeons at their current level. How did they fuck it up this bad?
>>344972943
casuals
people with social anxiety
casuals with social anxiety
>>344972943
It's leveling content, buddy. People are blasting through because the game has been out forever and they have done it 5+ times already.
Sorry to say but the group experience while leveling is not important to blizzard currently.they also want you to buy a level boost if you don't enjoy it ;)
>>344972820
>>344972939
>muh hugbox players
>>344973052
>muh 5 man dungeon so hard
Ok.
>>344972943
you can't solo a dungeon, you can probably 2 man but it'll be so inefficient it'll be a drag.
>tfw i got Eye of Sulfuras on my first run
>tfw i got Scepter of Azj'Aqir on my 14th solve
>>344973127
Definitely 2 man it (just a tank and healer decked out with heirloom gear)
>First run of Tempest Keep
>don't even care for the Ashes
>Alar drops
>>344973098
Well considering less than 10% of the player base at max level did Gold in all of them. Either it's not of interest or too hard for them.
>>344973127
monks and dks can solo
>>344973134
Only took me 219 kills for that stupid timeless isle mount to drop :^)
>>344972943
Leveling is broken and heirlooms are degenerate - Ion Hazzikostas, 2016
>>344973261
> Decide to re-sub during WoD
> Make a new character
> level it to max
> Decide to go kara
> Mount drops
> mfw
Me and my friend rejoined and have been queuing dungeons since lvl 20, it seems to be really fast.. it's not actually tedious cause were only seeing a dungeon once or twice before we open up new ones.
so my question is, do dungeons start giving less exp so we can actually quest alongside dungeons, cause we cant really sit in a zone to long before were outlvld it
>>344973324
Monk tanks while leveling aren't anything close to tanky. They're horrible until late levels.
>>344973467
>do dungeons start giving less exp
no, you can just hit level cap easily by just using the dungeon finder
>>344973467
Once you hit level 85ish things will slow down a bit
>>344973317
It was a combination of both for us, our guild tried them and failed the first couple of times, then we understood that you need specific comps to excel at challenge mode. Then we looked up what you actually get for getting gold and promptly gave up because power ranger cosmetic armor looks like shit, like every other armor set designed by nu-blizzard.
>>344973717
>then we understood that you need specific comps
That's only for pushing world record times. And it comes down to mobility. Any comp could get gold no problem if you're not garbage.
The MoP CM gear is some of the best looking. Especially the Druid one.
>>344973717
>instead of getting good we gave up and rationalized
>>344973717
>then we understood that you need specific comps to excel at challenge mode
You need specific comps for best times, you don't need specific comps for gold medals. Gold is piss easy for all classes and specs.
so who elses realm is dead?
>>344974190
Everyone who played on Nostalrius.
>>344974190
I play Nagrand, It's still popping
>>344974190
>mfw moon guard
>>344974190
All realms are ded.
This game is sitting at less than 2 million subs right now.
>>344974503
Except for you know the high pop ones...
>had dibs on that stupid firechicken mount from alysrazor since firelands first came out
>was prepared to donate 500K to guild bank to buy it, everyone was ok with this
>miss one week because my boss needed me to work overtime
>it finally drops
>>344974503
I wonder what that list will look like next week when the Legion pre-patch launches
>>344974603
This photo was taken just a month after 6.2. Since then blizzard has changed the requirements for high/low pop.
Every single server is low pop by the old measurement.
>>344973645
Actually 85-90 is the fastest part now that the exp got reduced to like 1/3 of needed. You get a level per dungeon if you are rested
>>344974801
>photo
>>344974801
>Every single server is low pop by the old measurement.
Kinda hard to measure with the realm phasing.
>>344974801
Silvermoon EU & Draenor EU both have 30k+ pop being the biggest PvE servers.
Then there's Argent Dawn EU, Kazzak EU, Twisting Nether EU, Sylvanas EU and some others at 10k+
>>344971538
>cm gear
>not glad titles and 2.4k enchants
fucking casuals kys
>>344974801
http://www.wowprogress.com/realms/rank/eu
Sort by population.
What is Illidan's role in the new expansion? I thought he was dead
>>344975016
>glad
Pillar hug simulator
>2400 enchants
PVPing at the most unbalanced level it's ever been.
Wow nice!
i didn't play since WotLK end, is it worth coming back?
>>344969672
Why is soloing BT allowed? Or any lower level raid?
I understand its almost 10 years old at this stage but allowing older dungeons to be soloable just condenses the entire game into the new expansion. Not to mention its not like BT is an older raid to someone whos just joined the game.
Theres 5 extra expansions worth of content that could be put to use if Blizzard wasnt to lazy to come up with a system that preserves them for its challenges and rewards.
Its madness.
>>344975089
what the fuck
I thought Maiev died.
Been a while since I finished TFT.
>>344975248
WoW is a PvE game, about farming and raiding.
Nobody does any world PvP, so people tend to go to circlejerk servers, rather than form balanced ones.
>>344975248
Realm imbalances like that have been around since forever.
Magtheridon EU is the #1 50-50 realm now as far as I know.
>>344975295
People do World PvP and now imbalances don't matter because X-realm.
>>344975089
>>344974980
Look guys I get it, a couple realms have a reasonable population when compared to the other lesser realms. This doesn't change the fact that they would be considered low pop by the old standards Blizzard had.
>>344975295
sounds like a horrible mmo experience to me
>>344972943
They ruined it since it's in a way of real content that is end game. They fucked it so bad that they should just removed it all together, they are trying to get around it with insta-boosts.
>>344975362
Pretty sure medium realms were ~5-6k pop or so, which several dozen of those realms fulfill.
>>344975338
Imbalances do matter in world PvP, and people don't do that.
rate my mog
>>344975410
It's entirely counterproductive to selling insta 90s also. It would be in their interest to keep leveling hard but they just seem to not give a shit
>>344975424
5-6k active players at a time maybe but even back then medium pop servers had at least 20-30k accounts playing on them.
>>344975451
And like I said, with cross-realms imbalance doesn't matter because you get people from other servers as well.
And yes, people do world PvP if you don't want to acknowledge it.
>>344975509
looks pretty comfy actually
>>344975509
You have been posting this same mog like years or something, it's not that great
>>344975248
server merge when
like, 6 servers should be merged
>>344975565
Like hell they did. My server was medium pop from Vanilla to Cata and it had 10k at best.
>>344975586
i've been posting this mog for years the hunter one is fairly new
>>344975671
Back before 6.2? No it didn't.
>>344975780
My server has been low pop since MoP to WoD 6k->4k or so.
It has been medium pop since before that and it has never been highly populated.
>>344975524
But i can kinda understand why they do it:
Overwatch and pretty every modern multiplayer game:
>hey wanna play game?
>sure, inv
>already in game
WoW:
>oh you are on wrong server
>oh you are on wrong faction
>oh you are not high lvl enough
>oh you don't have enough gear
I do get that that's how MMO:s work and i understand why they changed it to be more acceptable for people, but pleasing everybody ruined everything.
>>344975780
Also you can look at the one on WoW's own site.
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/status
There's still lots of medium + high pop servers.
>>344975524
Leveling was never hard. Even in Vanilla it just took fucking ages. It would not be in their best interest to keep it the same expansion after expansion, who would want to spend ~200-300 hours leveling before they get to where others are?
One thing that deters me from picking up Vindictus again is knowing that leveling is still slow as shit and you have to go through all that content that nobody plays anymore and spend fucking ages getting to level cap.
>>344975967
I already pointed out that after 6.2 Bizzard changed the requirements for server pops.
Sure these servers might claim to be high pop but they probably have the same pop if not less than the old low pops.
>>344976134
How dense are you?
If anything, these ones show the old statuses because in-game pretty much just Argent Dawn, Silvermoon and Draenor hit high pop.
>>344971538
>>no CM gear or wep
Transmogging welfare shit people have been buying for a year like it matters.
Transmogging at all not just letting your mythic dick swing in the wind
Casual detected.
>>344974503
>only low servers
>not all regions
back to final faggots with you
>>344975226
Do you really think there would be people that group up for a fucking 12 years old raid like MC and ahn'qiraj ?
What purpose would you have to go through them if you can get both PvP gear from Ashran or find a guild to go HC HFC with?
Even then, vanilla raids would get demolished consider how most bosses had fuck all mechanics. Would be more waste of your own time more than anything considering the reward is essentially experiencing this "golden time" of WoW with its raiding.
>know that legion will be worse than wod
>probably going to play it because my friends will play it and I don't want to miss out
>>344976292
>If anything, these ones show the old statuses because in-game pretty much just Argent Dawn, Silvermoon and Draenor hit high pop.
What are you even trying to say? That these are lying even more then the in game realm pop list? That these use old numbers?
How old are these numbers?
Like 6 months?
9 months?
A year and a half?
I'm taking about a very specific time period one month after 6.2 when everyone left and all servers went to low pop before the standards were changed a week later.
Don't think that "Well these numbers are wrong to so it's okay XD" is a defence to Blizzard lying to you about how ded their game is.
>tfw rogue with thunderfury, glaives, fang of fathers, cloak, bow, ring and invincible
lady luck is in my corner, gents
>>344975676
/moo
>>344976608
>Do you really think there would be people that group up for a fucking 12 years old raid like MC and ahn'qiraj ?
Why wouldnt they? Theres already enough players on private servers to prove this. And its not just vanilla raids that are old now, its TBC, LK, and even Cata. You wouldnt say those are simple mechanical-less raids now would you? I'd also like to reiterate my point that old raids are not old to new players or someone whos never completed them as they SHOULD have been completed.
In terms of rewards its not all about the gear, players will do the raid for the sake of the raid. Not to mention transmog rewards would be more unique. Its doesnt have to be precisecly the same experience as it was twelve years earlier either. Just make some tweaks and changes here and there.
Dont let old raids gather dust for so long after putting so much time and resources into them. Return (somewhat) of a challenge into them.
Mandatory level scaling should be introduced to old dungeons/raids and zones to keep >95% of its content somebit relevant and challenging and above all -enjoyable.
Falling alseep while bulldozing through raids on your own is a shit experience for what the game could potentially offer. It really is madness.
>>344976703
>no friends left playing
>still come back to wow every now and again despite knowing I'll be bored in a week
like a battered wife
>>344974329
my man
>>344974980
>tfw been playing at argent dawn almost as long as I can remember
feels good man
>>344976792
>And it only took me 8+ years to get them!
If you didn't get them when they were endgame content it doesn't mean shit.
>>344976703
Oh no, my friends are eating shit and I'm not!
>>344977350
The people who do a raid for the challenge it poses and dont give a shit about loot are the same people pushing mythic and are likely to have already done the raids in question to death.
Without loot you aren't going to be able to consistently get shitters (i.e the people who've not done the content) through the door.
>>344976081
You know what else deters new players and returnees? Getting ganked by someone in full heirlooms that has double the hp and 1 hits people not in heirlooms
>dem shit grafics
well done blizzard
>>344977840
The only two I didn't get at current content was Thunderfury and Invincible.
My vanilla guild gave our only TF to the Warrior, and my guild during Wrath only managed to start on Heroic content towards the end of the expansion.
Surprisingly, I received the bow when Sunwell was current, since our guild only ran a single hunter and he already had it.
>>344977350
Private servers doesn't prove anything though?
It contradicts more than anything because it shows how far the hardcore player has grown since the early days. You had people raiding the old content in Nost shitting on every boss encounter because it was so mechanically bare bones more than anything.
It's like Butcher in Highmaul mythic.
there is a huge difference with WoW having around 36 raids over 12 years in retail and private servers with 5 raids. With 2 raid tiers because naxx was something almost nobody was able to do because of the retarded gear check for those bosses and adds.
>In terms of rewards its not all about the gear, players will do the raid for the sake of the raid
what ?
Gear has and always have been the core progression of the game. Stripping that out takes away a huge chunk of the satisfaction of actually killing a boss and feeling that you and your group gets stronger together because now your tank can take one more hit without needing pocket healer to press 1.
>Not to mention transmog rewards would be more unique
if you really wanna be a special snowflake. Then do mythic raids and run around in mythic tiers sets. Then you can feel unique like the special snowflake you are anon.
>>344977949
Loot can still be included as a reward as it was before and how it is now - as something that bridges the gap between raid tiers.
Lets pretend -
>your character is level 100 and has BiS WoD gear.
>you are automatically scaled to the level of the dungeon or raid you enter
>you enter Kara
>you are now lvl 70
>your BiS WoD gear is now scaled to the stats of TBC dungeon blues (as all raid gear from end tiers of later expansions should be)
>you are a TBC scrub again
>you farm kara for its gear
>with that gear you are able to move on and challenge SSC/TK
>with that gear you are able to do MH/BT etc
>you keep your lvl 70 gear and its actually useful
>you gain some unique mogs that other scrubs dont have
>you enjoy doing some nostalgic raids with friends
>you enjoy doing some new achievements added by devs if they could have been bothered
>the dev team doesnt commit suicide known that the content they poured so much sweat and blood into isnt unused or solo'd by ultra casual scrub with down syndrome
>WoW isnt defined by its latest expansion
>progression.jpg
>fun.jpg
Theres so much to be gained from this I could go on all day.
>>344978728
>if you really wanna be a special snowflake. Then do mythic raids and run around in mythic tiers sets. Then you can feel unique like the special snowflake you are anon.
Dont be a tard anon.
>>344975903
>Join a pug for normal/heroic raid
>they're super friendly, competent and communicative
>Boy howdy i'd sure like to join this guild
>Different realms
>>344978175
>being born post 2005
well done steak, andrew
>>344971840
>>344980279
>>344979528
OK so first of all before anything even with scaling old raids will never be as hard as they were because classes are better designed now (people can nostalgia all they want specs work now they didn't in tbc) and gear has better stat distribution (i.e strength is on one handers now) .
To address your post; This alternate set of scaled content gear that you have to upgrade that upgrades between tiers of old content system you are proposing wont work.
Outside of people who already intentionally run old content no one is going to be consistently running old content enough for it to work.
The best we can hope for is having gear scaled to match each raid uniquely and treating each raid as a discreet experience.
>>344980279
>all those hours spent progression raiding and farming ICC 25hc when it was relevant
>still never got invincible
>random faggots can now solo it and get it
Fuck this game and fuck this genre
>>344979528
But the old gear compared to the new gear is shit now matter how much you want to scale it back.
The caster and agility trinkets you have today can be one of your core dps in raids nowdays and same goes with set items.
It doesn't matter even if they started to balance the stats of old raids gear to make it as viable as the mythic gear the newer contents gear will always outclass because they are designed a different way.
finding group for 36 different raid when the majority of people doesn't even fucking raid, will just make it autistictly hard for raid recruiters when the majority of player has shown that no matter how much blizzard tries to cater to those people, they STILL don't want to touch the raid content.
>>344970468
>tfw I got it my first try
>tfw I don't even play WoW anymore
>>344981616
if you get back into it wait until they give you wod so you only have to potentially pay for one game
>>344981676
the only way I'd resub at this point is if they release legacy servers.
>>344981758
they'd probably pull a jew move and require you to have the latest expac if they did
>>344981814
I'd honestly be willing to pay for that if it meant I got the quality servers that I used to appreciate blizz for.
>>344981880
i might as well. at this point i just resub and get more gold using the tokens since they are usually less than 40k
>>344981676
They've already given wod for free a few months ago.
>>344982174
I think you're confusing it with the dirt cheap sale they had. As far as I know (and feel free to call me a retard if I'm wrong) they give it for free a short period after the new expansion comes through.
>>344982258
At the end of the expansion they roll it free so newcomers don't have to buy two expansions just to get ready. If you haven't bought wod feel free to log into your bnet.
>>344982071
oh neat, I can actually look up my old character. can't see her appearance, but...
>>344982071
tokens are over 80k
>>344982539
im not in europe
>>344981492
source on that pic
who drew it makes my dick hard
offline with npcs when
![44bcb1_4595729[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Q0jCvTF.jpg "44bcb1_4595729[1].jpg")
>nobody has posted this yet
Got ashes on my first ever try today. I've always wanted this thing.
>>344982398
>90
>old
>>344982258
A bit after cata released I made a trial, played that to 20 and forgot about it. 2 months ago I bought a WoW battle chest, and when I activated it I already had WoD, so it had to have been given out at some point.
>>344983004
>First try
>Doesn't leave the achivement visible
>>344969672
Everytime I think of WoW, it just brings back painful memories of how I utterly destroyed my parent's reputation by playing on their characters and being an autistic little shit in guild chat.
>tfw your entire class is garbage in Legion so you can play whatever spec you like
>>344982258
Yeah, WoD was given out for free to everyone in May.
>>344983917
W-what class?
>Never ran around in transmog once in my life
What niow
>>344976608
>Do you really think there would be people that group up for a fucking 12 years old raid like MC and ahn'qiraj ?
I was still doing group ups for all the 40-man raids until Cata hit. Granted we only need around 15-20 people for them but I still had a lot of fun doing it and because I'm an autistic collector. Hell, my guild back then was for people who wanted to run old content in off time between raids.
>>344973261
I know that exact feel
>Character is in some shitty 999 person social guild for the perks
>All these mad whispers i got from some shitters that have been farming it for years
>>344983004
Are you poor?
>>344983784
You can check his armory.
>>344984537
Rogue or hunter most likely
>>344969672
OK ROLL !
>rolls highest number
>Master Looter gives Warglaive to his buddy
>>344976608
>find a guild to go HC HFC with
>Not solo pugging it for a year
Dude
>>344974503
>Shattered Hand is now a low pop server
>>344985150
>Highest roller was a mage or some shit
>They get it anyway
>>344971538
>muh CM gear that looks like dogshit
>>344975136
t. 1k rating player
>log in
>no music, just an eery wind sound
>Go to Garrison
>No garrison music, just the same sound
>>344985098
>hunter
>garbage in legion
Game if literally back to stacking as many hunters as you can
>>344985530
>>344985530
...you know your garrison has a jukebox quest thing right?
>>344985594
>>344985596
I know, but they literally took the music out. It used to be there and now its not
>it's an I cleared the raid in LFR which is equal to clearing it on Mythic episode
Step aside. This is still the best mountand I got it back in cata.
>>344969672
You can't transmog legendaries so what's the point?
>>344985679
The loot is not the content the raid is the content. LFR is "i'm a terrible casual but i'm entitled to see the same content as average players because i pay the sub" mode.
>>344985734
You can transmog the mop legendary cloak now but that's also one of the most boring ones.
>>344971840
>>344972564
You guys need to git gud, I've seen 3 zulian tiger mounts from ZG before they removed it, 2 even dropped back to back.
Decided to kill the raptor dude one week he drops his mount.
Also got the pheonix mount from KT in around a dozen attempts.
>>344985716
But that's not a Voltron, anon.
I have glaives, thunderfury, invcine, mimirons head, time-lost, voidtalon.
I'm certainly a loser but the funny part is I farmed them specifically because there was nothing else to do in game - now I don't even play.
I got a binding on my mage too that was fucked up
>>344985872
>LFR is "i'm a terrible casual but i'm entitled to see the same content as average players because i pay the sub" mode.
>Don't have a raiding guild
>Fastest way to farm tomes is on lfr
>Either that or make a normal pug that falls apart before Kilrog
>>344969672
>96 Ragnaros kills
>2 sets of bindings
>1 eye of sulfuras on 96th kill
>>344986003
So you are a terrible casual.
>>344986070
You got me senpai
>>344969672
>Nearly every wannabe pvp rogue has the glaives
>"I-Its special! I am special!"
Too many people run around with that shit.
>>344985487
2.2k rating guy here
He is right.
I ran Baron 712 times in TBC when the drop rate was 0.1% and there was risk of dying if you pulled too many. I still don't have that god damn mount.
For legion, SV Hunter or Holy Paladin?
I've never played a leather class before and they seem to have the nicest transmogs but Holy paly does damage and heals
>>344985872
Isn't the statistic that only like 1% of players ever even stepped foot into Vanilla Naxx? Meaning that the time Blizzard spent on creating assets, designing encounters, making music, etc. was effectively a waste because barely anyone ever got to see it?
>>344969672
>Akama: "The Light will bless these dismal halls once again.... I swear it."
>9 years later, zero progress
>Cataclysm was 6 years ago
>Many buildings are still on fire
>Little to no effort to reconstruct things has been made
Game is shit.
>>344986260
Only 1% of guilds actually. Which is entirely the fault of Tigole who was a faggot who ran Everquest into the ground because he and his guild cleared 2 months of content in 2 days by poopsocking, so when he was designing WoW he decided to pander to that playstyle by putting everything behind a massive grind so it "lasts longer".
>>344986334
They actually (kinda) address this in the green fire questline, essentially Akama started to get repairs going and was going to make BT great again, and then warlocks came by and fucked everything up; and then Kanrethad was being an immortal cunt at the top of the building.
>>344986234
Holy Paladin looks like it's been fucked over. >increased healing the closer you are to your targets
means
>you only heal as much as other healers when you're on fucking top of your target
If I wanted to be a fist weaver, I would be playing monk. Instead, lets turn Paladins into Fistweavers and Monks into Paladins.
>>344986334
They repaired SW's Park quarter, it's nowded king park
>>344986416
Speaking of, didn't someone actually copy and paste the big angry letter he sent to SOE over how a certain EQ boss was unbeatable and send it to him over how C'thun was unbeatable during the first week or two?
That shit was golden.
>>344986260
maybe more people would have see it if it wasn't removed
>>344986234
Survival Hunter is mail class. You're probably thing about demon hunters.
>>344986234
Hunters wear mail.
>>344986680
>>344986707
not at lower levels
>>344986818
Not anymore.
>>344986818
they do in legion.
>>344986541
I've been playing a Holy Paladin since Wrath and the mastery change really is making me consider another class. It just seems so stupid since you have 2 at most instant casts so you're going to spend the entire time running around to get better heals.
>>344986865
Still did earlier today
>you will never go back in time and experience vanilla wow
Every wow thread, and the pain never goes away. It was such a grand time of adventure and camaraderie. Nobody knew anything, the world was vast and mysterious.
>you will never ress a random person you run across in westfall again
>you will never make friends buffing and saving random people again
>you will never make The Run through wetlands again
>you will never join a 6 hour 280 man raid of level 20 night elves to attack crossroads again
>>344986946
Because the prepatch hasn't kicked in yet.
Starting 7.0 Hunters and Shaman only use Mail gear and Warrior and Paladin only use Plate gear from level 1 - 110
>>344986895
I've been a holy paladin since the beginning of TBC, and a serious raider who had Val'anyr when it was current. Even though I haven't played seriously since WotLK, I'm tired of how every expansion drastically changes holy's play style. I'm done with paladin.
>>344980279
>>344980898
I think they should remove the hard modes and all of its rewards after its no longer relevant. I raided hardcore in wrath and cata and to see something that took months to achieve get solod by some guy who probably only does lfr makes me so sad. I was one of the first people to get the red fire hawk on the server, and my guild was the first to get the purple one from the meta achieve.
Now they're solo able and lost any sort of meaning.
the black and white proto drake are rare as fuck and only the people who cleared naxx before uld got still have them, and rightfully so
>>344987071
Wait really?
So you can't equip cloth at all as a warrior?
>>344987213
You can still equip it but you can wear Plate from level 1 and only get Plate quest rewards.
>>344987179
>I got special stuff so now a few years down the line no one else should be able to also get it
Well, okay!
This is basically all the retards that play WoW do now. Do old content once a week and play virtual dress up.
>>344987010
One of my favourite memories was starting out for the first time in Mulgore, and ended up tag-teaming with a hunter all the way up until that kodo hunt. I forgot it's name but it was one of the last quests for the area. He taught me how to pick up professions, I picked the same ones as him (Mining and something else) and we'd share mining nodes and everything.
Mulgore might actually be my favourite starting zone, out of all of them.
>>344987010
>you will never ress a random person you run across in westfall again
More like
>you will never tame a wild beast in Westfall and flag yourself for PvP to trick lower levels into attacking it while using Eyes of the Beast
Fun times.
Will blizzard ever reduce the cost of transfer services?
>>344972943
Leveling to max level without heirloom takes ages once you hit the expansion contents.
>>344985679
It's a tragedy though, there are so many people who think this way and most dedicated players will clear through LFR several times
This burns even them out on the content and leaves them apathetic about higher difficulties
You go up to normal and there's an extra mechanic (let's leave out that you can ignore all of them entirely in LFR)
You go up to heroic and it gets slightly harder again, but no new mechanic
Finally mythic adds another mechanic or mixes up the existing ones in a minor way and on the last boss in the raid there's usually an extra phase
The extra mythic phase doesn't appear in the dungeon journal and the extra difficulty between LFR and normal isn't obvious unless you've actually tried normal
For players that don't network, there is very little encouragement in the game to take that first step up to normal, and there's even less encouragement to network in the first place
>new player, new character
>log in
>immediately get a guild invite
most players will accept it because "why not?"
this is now your expectation of guilds in WoW
the player retention is at an all time low, and it's not hard to see why
>>344987345
>you will never ress a random person you run across in westfall again
reminds me of my first day in SWG
>get killed like 30 minutes after starting
>some dude comes in a vehicle and rezz me
>are you god?
>>344987345
>you will never shapeshift into a bear and pretend to be a mob to lure carebears in a pve server into flagging themselves
>>344987010
nostalrius was better before it got flooded by the chinese
>>344987548
I actually joined in WoD (lol) and did LFR thinking it was same as normal just that you queue up for it. It made me think raiding was boring shit until I found out what LFR really was.
>>344987548
>You go up to heroic and it gets slightly harder again, but no new mechanic
well they nerfed archimonde normal and made it different than heroic
>killed him normal 3 days before the nerf
>best heroic try was at 1% on a pug i lead , some faggot with assistant disbanded the raid after that wipe
then i unsubbed
>>344987313
no they shouldn't. they were rewards for doing the optional hard mode and for spending retarded amounts of hours a day for months on end.
why the fuck would anyone want to do heroic /mythic now if all they have to do it just wit for it to be soloable?
but you're probablly lfr scum who got all the rare mounts at 100
>>344987329
it's true too. if you're not some kid in a guild with friends or pvping you're probably a weird fuck like me who plays 1 day a week to get a mount i dont even want
>>344987783
i didn't got naxx mounts because archievement wasn't showing everything you needed to do
fuck removing content
>>344987758
>I actually joined in WoD (lol) and did LFR thinking it was same as normal just that you queue up for it. It made me think raiding was boring shit until I found out what LFR really was.
im going to frame this and send it to blizzard
>>344987783
>no they shouldn't. they were rewards for doing the optional hard mode and for spending retarded amounts of hours a day for months on end.
And people to this day are still farming for Invincible.
>why the fuck would anyone want to do heroic /mythic now if all they have to do it just wit for it to be soloable?
Who says it has to be extreme? Maybe after leveling to max level they still can't get the drops?
>but you're probablly lfr scum
Whatever supports your narrative.
>who got all the rare mounts at 100
I only have 26 mounts. Most of them are the 10 gold ones you buy from NPC's.
>>344987010
>wallhop west side valley of heroes
>jump through roof of SW bank
>kill bankers
>/dance while alliance kiddos desperately try to attack me through the iron bars
>receive four hundred angry whispers from alts as I camp the bankers for an hour
Almost as fun as jumping through the map while carrying the flag in WSG, making the game impossible to end. Goodness vanilla was a griefer's paradise.
>>344987179
>people shouldn't be allowed access to content they've paid for
ok kid
>>344973552
Is this a real post? Do you even know how stupid Guard is at lower levels?
>>344987989
if you dont collect mounts and clearly (clearly) just raid lfr, why would you care abut any of this unless you were farming these older raids?
>And people to this day are still farming for Invincible.
no shit, 1% drop rates are hard to get. its the fact that anyone can just go and do it without the 25 other people and the months and months of progression before hand, then waiting for your turn to get it.
you can now just solo it easily with everyone of your 50+ alts that people seem to have now adays.
>>344980279
shouldnt happen
>>344988598
I paid for mythic Archi boost to get the mount, your argument is invalid.
>>344988465
you didnt pay for it. you payed for access to the servers. this content you "payed" for was once pretty much unavailable to the majority of the player base. the only people who complained were the odd forum idiot who also complained about everything else. the others accepted that it was a small reward for the people who dedicated months for a few different looking pixels. there seems to be more of these forum idiots who expect everything on a silver platter now adays.
also, you calling anyone else a kid is hypocritical
>>344988598
>if you dont collect mounts and clearly (clearly) just raid lfr, why would you care abut any of this unless you were farming these older raids?
Why would I care about people retroactively making content unavailable? I don't know Andrew. Why don't you make up more things that have no basis in anything to support your retarded "I did it so no one else can" argument.
>no shit, 1% drop rates are hard to get. its the fact that anyone can just go and do it without the 25 other people and the months and months of progression before hand, then waiting for your turn to get it.
Well no shit, that means that even in the few years Wrath was active and you had a 24 others to help you with the raid, it still wouldn't drop.
You are getting hung up on the level cap when it doesn't matter. If they made the drops easier to get then you might have a point, even though they are in fact abysmal and some things (like the cindercloth vest recipe) just get fucking zapped with the new expansion.
>you can now just solo it easily with everyone of your 50+ alts that people seem to have now adays.
So then beg Blizzard for legacy raids. Or the time shit they call them. There is literally no reason to remove old content just because your feefees get hurt that your red hawk isn't permanently super sekrit club shit.
>>344975248
there's never a good horde to alliance ratio, which sucks bigtime. I wish WoW would just get larger servers and merge it so there's 50/50. Meeting the same people in pvp and outdoors is FUN. but wow is ded boring game
>>344980279
explode
>>344988875
bought the game
paid for the subscription fee
two separate payments, I am entitled to access the mount
sorry
>>344988839
my guild sold heroic carries and mounts in wrath and cata. if you can afford a hardmode end boss mount you're in the 0.1%
>>344969672
grats man. i had one drop for my priest awhile back.
>>344977378
>"H-..He only hit me three times this week, officer! Leave him alone."
I'm the same Anon, every now and then I'll go back just to glance around before being so disgusted that I have to leave.
>>344988839
>should i waste worthless gold?
>or spend weeks or months farming this shit raid?
this is my opinion regarding mythic mounts
>>344974503
>darrowmere is dead
>>344989020
I bet you're outraged that you can get the corrupted ashbringer anymore or atiesh, or the black protodrake.
you pay money, shouldnt you have access to those items ? come on lets go riot at blizzard you fucking idiot
>>344989047
>300k
>0.1%
hahahaha
>>344989047
>if you can afford to get carried with ten other shitters you're in the 0.1%
uh
>>344989281
You can get all of those on the bmah.
>>344974503
>Firetree is dead
>>344988598
Removing content is something that should never happen. It hurts the game and discourages both new and returning players.
I was a hardcore raider in the past and enjoyed my mounts and titles when it lasted, and I couldn't give less of a fuck people can get them easily now.
What I give a fuck about though is that I'll never be able to go through the the MOP legendary questline which is central to the expansion's and Wrathion' stories because I took a break at the wrong time and Blizzard listened to snowflakes like you. And it's going to be even worse now that they are removing WoD's ring quest too. If I was a new or returning player I wouldn't even consider playing the game if I knew so much content has been removed.
>>344969672
He's coming back in the expansion right? Is she finally going to admit her lust for his cock? Se probably shlicked to it every day for thousands(?) of years.
>>344990078
He is, there's even a scenario where you play out that battle from Illidan's POV.Basically, he is the CHOSEN ONE and his demon hunters were offworld trying to obtain a final solution to the burning legion while we were being dicks raiding Black Temple.
>>344988916
see this is the problem with making the game more accessiblw and easier, is you get players like you who genuinely believe that everything in the game should be readily available for you because you pay a small fee.
you make it sound like im suggesting removing tons of fucking content. if you actually knew what you were arguing agaisnt youd know that heroic/mythic is literally the same raid but with maybe 1 or more added mechanics per boss. the rewards are recolored tier and if youre lucky a unique mount. let the fucking people who spent months have this mount. knowing blizz youll probbally get a re skin down the lines anyways.
>Well no shit, that means that even in the few years Wrath was active and you had a 24 others to help you with the raid, it still wouldn't drop.
you arent that bright are you? the difficulty in the drop comes from having 25 other people who arent lfr heroes that show up 4 nights a week and dont get bored after one wipe - then repeat this for months
also, >>344980279
level cap does matter, every new cap makes shit easier to farm.
>I don't know Andrew
it seems you have a friend that has the same opinion as me
letting the hardcore players have a small fucking reward isnt the end of the world. i didnt raid in mop or wod and i dont give a fuck if i ever got the rare mounts from the hardmodes. but this mindset of me me me i pay $$$ i want it now is what is ruining this game and pretty much the industry
>giving a fuck about the ugly mounts
>>344989415
no you cant, but keep trying you shit eating casual
>>344990502
>see this is the problem with making the game more accessiblw and easier, is you get players like you who genuinely believe that everything in the game should be readily available for you because you pay a small fee.
See, I can safely ignore the rest of your post because you don't even understand my position. I don't give a shit about accessibility in the sense you are thinking of.
I believe that rare drops should not be removed retroactively because the active expansion is newer. That's it. Anything else is stretching what I'm saying and filling it with whatever made-up bullshit you believe.
>>344989660
a single mount inst enough to be justified as content though. im not suggesting the raid gets removed, im literally only saying that just the mount, something so small but meaninful for the people who did it while itwas relevant should be remoived. its really not that much of an outrage to suggest.
the ring and the cloak quests, now that is actual content with that they are removing which i am against.
if they can do that, why not let the hardcore people have a damn mount? i dont understand.
>>344990605
yeah you can
enjoy being poor
>>344990660
>im not going to read your post but respond anyways!
classic.
>>344991104
>I feel like an idiot after being told I'm arguing against made up shit
Classic.
>>344991004
show me proof of someone buying atiesh or the ashbringer, ill wait
>>344974503
i logged into my warrior last week, turalyon wasnt an overly populated server but now its so dead, didnt see a single person in orgrimmar, no one in chat, /who couldnt find anyone....was pretty sad desu
>>344991224
show me proof those items can't appear on the bmah, i'll wait
>>344991217
alright well you're clearly all tuckered out and going defensive mode so its pointless now. here's your last (you)
>>344971840
i got mine on my sixth attempt :^)
>>344991224
I've seen both the corrupted ashrbinger on AH and a shard of atiesh.
400+ solve, and to this day still not a trace of this piece of shit.
The farming is taking no end
>>344991613
You are a hypocrite that doesn't even try to begin to understand the writing on the walls that you fling shit at.
Your only "argument" is that the mounts should be removed after a new expansion because a game mechanic removes the ease of performing the raids that can obtain the mount, even though all it does is make the run faster and not actually increase the chances of the drop.
You then go on to say that things like the MoP cloak and WoD ring shouldn't be removed for the exact same reason I say the mounts shouldn't.
I hope you enjoyed this recap, and here's your last (You).
>>344990969
And as a former hardcore player I don't think anything should be removed, if I get it when it was current I'll enjoy it for years before it actually becomes common enough.
Look at the black and white proto-drakes, you NEVER see them. I haven't seen them in years. It's a waste. Besides, cool mounts and titles like this keep players hooked to the game, because they have a reason to do older content besides the first tourist run.
It's the same thing with gear, I love my Rhok'Delar and Rhok'Shalla to death but I still think it's a waste you can't get them anymore.
>>344991757
how much did the shard go for?
>was next in line to get ateish during tbc saturday runs
>shit blizzard removes old naxx 2 weeks later
>>344991794dug around MoP casually for a week or two and turning all crates into tol'vir to get mine :^) gl bro
>>344991371
here you go buddy. and i think you can put two and two together on whether or not atiesh, a legendary item is available.
>>344991794
You don't know the horrors of farming until you hunt specific world drops.
>>344986205
t. not 2.4k+
it is what separates the bitch bois from the men tbphwyf
>>344991982
Some guy on a forum who isn't even affiliated with blizzard? yeah ok
>>344992080
Does this image arouse you?
>>344991982
>the corrupted ashbringer
nice , now show me the same for ateishits the one i care , i'm not the dude you was arguing with
>>344991794
I have an archaeology-optimized garrison setup but I can't be bothered to do anymore after 200 solves. Maybe i'll wait for prepatch since it makes surveying slightly easier.
>>344991861
The difference is that the ring and cloak are part of the storyline when boss mounts are just a status symbol or were
>>344991964
no idea I didn't bid on it
you can bet it was a couple hundred k
When is prepatch hitting?
T: subbed yesterday to start new characters and my god its boring due to lack of mechanics
>>344991794
i used a bot for archeology
>3 weeks the bot running 14 hours daily
thats how long it took me to get everything
i needed to do like 100-200 more solves for the claw , but i got the mount sooner
>>344987010
here is some more pain for youyou are not allone :<
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4U4vr_Ra3o
>>344992282
earliest possible is the 19th, when the PVP season ends.
>>344991987
Best I did was spawncamp Silthide for like 20 hours.. we had a good raid chat and the music in that zone is really good. I was too tired to notice him when he spawned though lol.
Never got Poundfist, but got the others in WoD pretty easily.
>>344992446
DON'T MAKE ME CRY
I was 100% horde but this still gets to me.
>>344971538
>CM gear or wep
most of it looks like weebshit from different games
>>344992564
poundfist should be easily now
realm hop in each spawn zone till you find him for a few hours
do it before wod goes "full phasing to pretend there's more players playing"voidtalon was my first wod mount
>There are so many areas in WoW
>95% of it is barren and empty
I don't know why exactly but this fact alone hurts me
