Is Khadgar supposed to be a wise Gandalf?
>>344969278
no.
a cunt.
>>344969278
He got hit by an aging curse when he killed Medivh, if he managed to break it or just made an illusion of him looking younger again is beyond me.
>>344969573
He just shaved.
Maybe it's to make him closer to the movie.
Read Day of the Dragon OP
It's literally Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure with Khadgar and Krasus
>>344969671
>>344969758
Wasn't it Rhonin and Krasus, not Khadgar and Krasus? Come on nigga
>>344969429
>CHAMPION! We need you to collect 33 tomes to craft your ring to fight against the Legion and Archimonde!
>This will require you to kill them at least 5 times!
WoW became a skinner box joke.
>>344969573
>>344969669
well in the movie he never ages so maybe it's just retconned
>>344969758
>>344970193
it was
>>344970298
>became
it's always been that
>>344970387
He also uses a Priest spell for no reason after being shown using Mage spells.
>>344970298
Don't take quests like that with face value.
>>344969278
Nah he's the new WoW Jesus since everyone got sick of Thrall being it.
>>344970387
There was a rumor going around that he somehow managed to reverse the whole life draining thing so he would look closer to his actual age.
>>344970503
what priest spell?
when?
>>344970193
>>344970448
My bad, It was long time ago, Literally only read it once when it come out
Khadgar is like Gandalf, except without the pot and pedophilia.
Now that he doesn't smoke prodigious amounts of bad herbs and doesn't go through impractical lengths to save the pigmey tribe of adult children irish folk, he is actually a force to be reckoned with.
>>344970591
that's fucking retarded
>>344970606
Towards the end of the movie, when he did some magic that cast a holy light.
>>344970656
>pedophilia
What
>>344970657
Is it really more retarded thanIllidan becoming a champion of the light with a fucking halo and shooting beams of light?
>>344970606
Sorry, not a spell. A Talent.
He uses From Darkness, Comes Light ( and I mean he literally shouts "From Darkness, Come Light" when he does it, presumably with some sort of heal or Smite) when curing Medivh of the Fel.
>>344970779
oh that shit
that stuff with the "from shadow comes light and from light shadow" or something?
that was retarded to begin with
I bet it made most casual movie-goers that weren't familiar with the warcraft universe facepalm
So I saw the movie recently, and I couldn't help but notice that Medivh didn't mean to do any of the things he did, and he was just "corrupted" or mind controlled into doing them.
I always assumed he meant it all, as in he wanted to save the orcs, which he thought nice guys, from the rule of their evil chief, Guldan.
The movie showed us a mind controlled Medivh working together with Guldan instead. Also, Guldan himself was not mind controlled, even though he worked with the same force, so was he meant to be a more powerful mage than Medivh?
Oh, and Guldan being able to wrestle the warlords into submission without using magic was silly, but cool to see. Most of the movie was silly and stupid, but cool to look at, in that late 80s, early 90s action movies way. The "rule of cool" cliches.
>>344970828
no, but the illidan thing is fairly recent as well
just goes to show how much warcraft has become shit
>>344970879
didn't even know there was a talent with that name
still shit
>>344970152
Wait...Breakfast Club?
>>344971087
he was corrupted by sargeras, but I think in the book he at some point said that he really wanted the orcs to invade because from birth he was shackled to the role of guardian and he wanted to be free
I liked that about him
>>344971087
Medivh is the rape baby of some paladin chick and the avatar of the ULTIMATE EVIL in old lore. That's why he was easy to mind control for said ULTIMATE EVIL.
>>344969278
>Khadgar
>wise
>>344969573
He's one of the most powerful humans alive. I'm pretty sure concepts like age and lifespans become a lot more trivial when you reach his level.
>>344971191
>rape baby
>paladin chick
what?
both his parents were mages, and there was no rape, she just seduced a guy
>>344971175
I remember it similarly as well, and actually the way I remember it is that he started his effort to "save" the orcs by bringing them to his world, and only THEN he got corrupted. As in, he already wanted to do it before the mind control thing, and he thought its a good idea.
>>344971191
Yeah, but the point is, did he actually want to save the orcs, or was he just tricked into doing it by Sergeras' influence during his travels?
>>344969278
Geez those new WoW models are horrible
On the left we see a wizard on the right we see some bored guy in boring chainmai dress
>>344971398
>Medivh's mother, Aegwynn, served as the Guardian of Tirisfal before him. Eight centuries before the coming of the orcs, she fought and seemingly defeated Sargeras. This was according to the demon lord's plan, as he used the opportunity to transfer his essence into her body, where he would lay in wait
From wowwiki.
>>344971484
>ha ha, i meant for you to defeat me, so i can try again later in a few centuries
>wha.... no, i hadn't considered just winning here and now, how curious
>>344971435
it looks okay in game
can do cinematics with them really well too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TphxUNBVIoQ
>>344971484
and?
where is the part about being raped or about her being a paladin?
>>344971484
It's closer to the whole old god baby (DA:O) since sargeras infected Medivh after Nielas knocked up Aegwynn.
>>344969278
i absolutely hate his ingame hair, he has perfectly fine hair model for his cinematic model.... why the fuck are they different?
Oh and he looks good in Harbingers so yeah that's neat.
>>344971637
That's not half bad, actually.
>>344970503
Characters in movies tend not to be exactly tied to game mechanics.
It's why statting characters in RPGs can be a pain in the dick (especially dnd) because if you do it properly they almost always need to just have a custom made class.
>>344969278
I miss doing laps in Dalaran on my mount
>>344971912
Nigga come on. Priests and Mages are two different things. The best explanation is that this Khadgar's interaction with the lady in the floating cube caused him to class change from Mage into Priest. After all, she repeats the whole "From Darkness, Comes Light" thing at the end of the conversation.
>>344972049
Why should they be different?
Where does the energy for both the "divine" and "arcane" magic come from? Pretty sure they are the same thing.
>>344972049
Characters aren't just limited to spells that certain classes can use in-game. Lorewise anyone (especially someone like khadgar) can learn pretty much anything.
>>344971032
>that stuff with the "from shadow comes light and from light shadow" or something?
Yes
>>344972049
>Where does the energy for both the "divine" and "arcane" magic come from?
Naaru and twisting nether respectively
>>344971087
>I always assumed he meant it all, as in he wanted to save the orcs, which he thought nice guys, from the rule of their evil chief, Guldan.
You assumed wrong, because it was always Sargeras. Even in the game. Guldan was never mind controlled but he was a servant.
>>344972279
Naarus are not the source of the light, they are beacons.
>>344971637
This is the best WoW cinematic in a long time. This is how you make people care about characters that have existed for 10 seconds like Yrel and want to take down Blackhand.
>>344970879
The Guardian capable of using any spell. Not just Mage spells
>>344972123
Chronicle explains this somewhat
>>344972279
The light doesn't come from the Naaru, instead they are constructs of light created by you know who.
>>344972384
velen one was bretty good too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9KcVQO_8nY
>>344972563
By itself it's sick in the context of the greater story it's weak, I know I know
>Blizzard
>Story
But think about it this happens in the first zone, not only has Yrel done nothing cool to make us care about her or think her worthy of being a prophet yet but we barely know alt Velen either so his sacrifice means little as well.
If this happened in the last zone after Yrel had grown through the zones with us and getting rid of velen was raising the stakes this would be more impactful.
>>344972563
tfw Blizzard realized how cool Dreanor Velen was and made our Reality Velen go full Nuclear in Legion
>>344971637
just you is pretty chilling. Not sure if its akward or mega badass.
I came to WoD like 2 weeks ago and i really like the content, and the new exploration heavy questing style they came up with in pandaria.
The content in WoD all seems super good, just like there isn't enough of it. They suceeded in making me care about the draenei, which has been my least favorite race for ages, and Dreanor is fucking beautiful. I love outland and hellfire peninsula is still my favorite zone.
>>344972384
I'm really looking forward to the Legion ones. At least. There's a lot of them very early already. 2-3 Demon Hunter starting zone cinematics, ending of Broken Shore and one each for Alliance and Horde aftermath, Greymane vs Nathanos fight and airship explosion...
>>344972901
Blizzard is incredible at world building but really struggling with story telling. WoD was a step in the right direction
>>344972563
There's no way to properly rip music from cinematics, is there?
I know there are programs that let you rip the actual in game stuff (which, to be fair, is like, 99% of the music), but that's not a bad track right there.
>>344973038
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_MiUJv42HM
>>344973217
Oh shit, thanks!
>>344972920
Or they just realised having the strongest being on Azeroth sitting in the exodar with his thumb jammed up his arse for 7 years was a bit of a waste of character potential.
>>344973297
Being a pacifist and guiding Anduin on that same path was his whole thing.
Now with Kil'jaeden fucking him up through his corrupted son it's become personal again, he's going off the rails.
>>344971087
>>344971191
Did you guys even play the RTS games? There was no Paladin chick, you're talking about the previous guardian Aegwynn who was a mage, and Medivh was always possessed by Sargeras.
>getting Unholy artifact on beta
>enter catacombs
>this starts playing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzURl0JsYWc
>>344973297
the alliance voljin basically.
Maybe velen will take over once an old god takes over anduin and drops him harder than arthas
>>344969758
Oh, shit.
I've had that book sitting around for YEARS, and I'm pretty sure I read over half of it.
I wonder why I stopped, I remember liking it.
Also, yeah, Rhonin.
>>344973965
Except Vol'jin isn't strong at all. He is like an elite soldier, not a demigod.
>>344972563
>mfw blasting away orcs with the power of HOLY LIGHT
For a holy power of good it sure can be destructive
>>344974158
He's tethered to the troll loa of death though. That's why it's likely he's coming back, especially with some datamined dialogue between Vol'jin and Sylvanas from what is assumed are the prequests to Broken Shore.
--
When de time comes, you be ready to fight? If dis only de beginning, ain't gonna be easy. If we fight, everyone gonna be makin' sacrifices.
Vol'jin...
All your instinct be true. Innocent lives be valued, indeed, but dem magics... Demons we ain't been seein' before. I be fearin' dis only be de beginnin'.
Warchief, I understand, but we cannot afford to send everything we have at the Legion. Some of our people are not ready for a war. It is -
It is unfortunate... for all of us, but the time has come to defend our people - all of our people.
Good. Now we all be seein'... united as one, but we also be need'n an old knowledge. Someone who understand dem fel magics from long ago. Someone ta help understand de fight dey be bringin. Helpin' us prepare... for war.
Warchief, even with the might of the Horde behind us, the Legion's power continues to grow. We know neither their numbers nor their true power, but as you said, we know their intentions.
Yes... and we ain't gone be fightin' de Legion alone. It be time we be reachin' out. I be goin' to visit an old friend. Dem serious times. Tell your people it's time to be gettin' ready. Everybody gettin' ready.
And what of my guards, Warchief? We cannot afford to leave the city in its state. The Legion is threat enough, and the Alliance - the Alliance will surely strike when our guard is down.
Leave 'em. Dem guards be remindin' us of those we lost. They be remindin' us we be one Horde. And dey be remindin' us - ain't nobody be sittin' down when war be upon us.
>>344973798
Legion's soundtrack is full of callbacks to old music. It's great.
>>344974358
>sylvanas going all SIR YES SIR and "think of the kids we must defend the people"
what.
>>344974346
Orc faces are the best thing to come out of WoD.
>>344974358
>the Alliance will surely strike when our guard is down.
Haha. I fucking wish.
>>344974358
>He's tethered to the troll loa of death though
Are we sure that's a posetive?
>>344969669
That looks like a screencap from an AngryJoe review tbqh
>>344974518
>think of the kids we must defend the people
Kids makes terrible soliders
>>344970779
I guess he leveled up
>>344972335
>>344972440
Draenei draw their power from 'em, blood elves used to literally draw their power from 'em. They may not be THE LIGHT, but they sure as hell serve as conduits for it
>>344974676
Shadow hunter powers derive directly from Bwonsamdi. He lost them in the book, them regains them once he's proven himself to Bwonsamdi.
>>344974358
Plus, Bwonsamdi isn't really against bringing people back to life, since either way he'd have their soul eventually, like Vol'jin's human friend.
>>344974870
They draenei don't literally draw their power from the naaru, they're just their teachers and the center of their religion.
I always felt like World of Warcraft was a perfect example of game quality declining due to over-exceeded amount of effort put into everything.
Everything about it now is just so over done.
Armor and weapons are over-designed.
Story is just ridiculously over-done to the point where it's cringey now.
Too much thought it put into everything.
It's not a fucking surprise people enjoyed the game more when everything was more simple (except for the stats and class mechanics).
>>344976132
If anything, there isn't enough effort. Barely anything changes.
>>344976919
>Barely anything changes.
If barely anything changes, then why do nostalgia-fags want a vanilla server, then?
CHECKMATE, ARTHAS
>>344977008
Because nostalgia fags are retarded. The reason "wow is shit" is because not enough changes, so we got bored of it and quit.
You can't play the same game every day for a decade, especially if its not deep.
>>344970387
He leveled up during the movie instead of being beaten like in the original lore. Theres even the ding noise.
>>344977102
I've been playing vanilla wow for over 6 years desu.
>>344977165
You are autistic, though.
>>344977152
>Theres even the ding noise.
that was the noise of the door closing when people left the room
>>344971604
He knew she was too strong, so he wanted to steal all her power. Its a very well executed plan, because he comes back as medivh and owns her ass.
>>344974930
>>344975958
Yeah but is it a good thing to be on a death gods leash?
>>344974358
wtf, is Vol'Jin saying that he is going into the twisting nether, to find his old friend, Cairne Bloodhoof, who is not dead but actually a Tauren Marine, whom having served beside Jim Raynor for 45 tours, has all the information on the Burning Legion, who are actually the same as whatever the evil void thing in Starcraft is? wtf.
>>344977501
No he is going to go find the spirits of the trolls who lived during the war of the ancients and most likley fought the demons as well.
>>344969758
day of the dragon was fucking awesome, my favourite was still probably the last guardian which is Khadgar and Medivh in his castle. I wish they made that a fully fledged movie instead of squeezing it into Warcraft.
>>344977609
>mfw I bought this and It was a pretty good buy
Althought I should probobly reread it because I don't remember most of it.
>>344977579
Troll spirits like Hakkar? The one hunters kill for their class order quest?
>>344978212
Nice bait.
