Tanks > mechs
Tank games > mech games
Prove me wrong.
Beautiful Tiger.
What about tanks that turn in to mechs?
>>344928287
Armored core exists. No tank game even approaches that series.
>>344929350
Where's Armored Core 6 then?
>>344929649
In development according to rumours. Where's literally one decent tank game ever?
>>344929843
Men of War.
>>344928287
>gottverdamnt how the fuck did we end up in the alps
>i told you, herr sturmbanfuher, we it was left at the crossroads, not straight ahead
>let me check the map
>herr sturmbanfueher...
>was wunschen sie?!
>the map is upside down
>>344929947
Never played it so I won't comment but I seriously doubt it compares to one of the good Armored Core games.
>>344929843
War Thunder
>>344931192
I played that and really didn't like it. I think tank games are held back by sticking to real life personally. In armored core I can customize every aspect of my mech, in most tank games I choose between a few real life models and then maybe swap some parts.
>>344930481
>Realistic armor penetration
>realistic ballistics
>shells can ricochet of armor if hit on an angle then bounce around and hit other things nearby
>no health for vehicles, but rather realistically breakable components
>these can be fixed too
>tank tracks can be shot off and repaired
>the turret can be destroyed
>engine can catch on fire
>hull pieced
>different parts of the armor damaged more than others
>can ram infantry and other vehicles
>fully crewed by controllable and AI infantry
>AI looking out of openings can be shot
>shell penetrations can kill AI inside but leave others alive
>survivors can pull themselves from burning wrecks
>tanks have limited fuel
>can refuel
>can siphon fuel from other tanks and vehicles
>limited ammo
>every tank has an inventory of ammo and supplies for soldiers and crew
>including MG bullets and multiple different types of shells for different uses, as well as tools and spare parts for the tank if bits get broken, and spare fuel that you guys have to manually put in the fuel tank
>can be controlled through WASD or with mouse clicks and selection like an RTS
>be be direct controlled aimed with mouse aiming, or just click on enemies like an RTS
cont
>>344928287
Meidos > Tanks > Mechs
>>344931740
part 2
>soldiers and crew can get in and out of tanks
>can commandeer other vehicles and even captured enemy tanks
>can transfer inventory items between tanks and vehicles by making crew do it
>better to have supply trucks and support around your tanks for long range so you don't run out of fuel and ammo
>tanks have shit visibility for crew inside, so you want a nearby infantry unit for spotting
>infantry can jump up and sit on the tank, use guns on the top, and use it as a battlefield transport even
>a well placed shot from anything can disable even the most heavily armored tank
>crew can get confused and shellshocked inside the tank if they were being hit multiple times even by rounds that don't penetrate, your inexperienced crew will get scared
>each crew has individual role
>if a certain crew member dies, other has to take over and do both meaning it will take longer to do both those roles
>if you only have one crew member left for example, no turning the turret or firing while driving, no driving while aiming, no doing nothing while reloading or shooting
Probably more too that I am forgetting. Graviteam Tactics is good as well.
>>344931804
Man. I don't even hate anime, but I hate this type of anime and the people that like it.
>>344931804
Post more of this please.
God I love American tank destroyers
>>344928287
you're absolutely fucking right about tanks>mechs
but there are no good tank or mech games for that matter.
If anyone knows a good tank game please share. WoT would be great but in the end its p2w shit with hackers
>>344932047
I fucking love the M10 It's my favorite TD.
>>344931740
>>344931818
>tanks have pathetic range
>shooting anywhere past 30m is wildly inaccurate, turning long range engagements into luck
Funny you picked that since literally the only bad thing about MoW is the tank combat.
>>344932345
Theres something funny about that M10 over there Jim...
>>344930052
Dein Deutsch ist beschissen
>>344932151
>p2w shit with hackers
git gut niggernogger
>>344932708
If you play MoW you really should be installing the GSM mod straight of the bat.
It fixes all ranges for everything. Tanks, rifles, SMG's, bazooka's, LMG's, they all have a more accurate range.
Also puts larger maps into the game to accommodate for the massive range increases.
With GSM you can literally one shot guys on the other side of the map on the smaller base game maps.
>>344931946
what type?
maids or lolis?
>>344932708
Anything in MoW has pathetic range.
WW2 rifles can go up to 1500 meters, artillery sits 10 kms behind the front, planes don't fly 30 meters above the battlefield.
>>344933041
Both are fairly shit. But more the type of person that things taking anything and slapping little girls on it makes it better.
Do we make a cool tank anime? Nah girls und panzer.
Do we make a romance of the three kingdoms anime? Nah they're all girls now.
I think you get the point. It feels like wasted potential in order to drag in a few more viewers and it's one of the reasons I prefer Manga.
>>344933041
More likely knowing that people are sexualy attracted to anime characters gives me cancer
>>344933225
Girls und Panzer is fucking great you massive homo.
Putting cute girls into things does make things better. I bet you also have sexy breast plate armor in RPG's. I fucking hate people like you.
That COH meido mod looks good you just have shitty SJW taste. I was willing to consider your points and maybe take you seriously but you've exposed yourself as a complete faggot with those comments and that shit taste.
Make way for Wiesel the modern tankette.
>>344933370
>>344933225
What's wrong?
Too insecure to accept fun concepts?
>>344933490
>I bet you also hate* sexy breast plate armor in RPG's.
>>344933490
>Girls und Panzer is fucking great
And if it had been more than just moe anime girls in tanks it would have been better.
>>344933841
>insecure
more likely everywhere on the internet people go like "LOOK LOOK IM ATTRACTED TO FICTIONAL CHARACTERS , PLEASE ACCEPT ME IN YOUR WEEB GROUP"
No one said you dont have the right to do so buy you express it everywhere and all the time for no reason.
/v/ is for video games its not /lgbt/ tier
MWO > WoT
>>344929843
Steel Armor Blaze of War
>>344934048
No it wouldn't. It was a sports anime set on a fucking big boat traveling the world doing tank tournaments.
Having all, or even just some of them be guys would have made it worse. I like the fact that it's all female.
If you wanted to make an actual realistic war anime about tankmen, then yeah of course have it be realistic with male operators. But GuP absolutely was better with women tank operators. It added to the show.
You are a fucking faggot for not liking it. I've literally never seen anything else that had women driving tanks so it was unique, novel and interesting to see girls in tanks.
>>344934146
>her reload speed: 7.5 rounds/minute
then why the fuck does the Leo 2 in Wargame manage 9rpm? nerf HATO NOW
RIGHT NOW
>>344934419
not him but I just don't like women very much
it makes it hard to enjoy anime like this. fundamentally I enjoy anime but all-girl casts are fucking stupid
>>344934146
Now load this.
>>344934649
I hate most real life women too. I just don't consider anime girls to be real life women. It's a fucking easy solution.
I prefer all female casts to having some beta faggot effeminate male. I only like males in anime if they are truly alpha actual good characters like the ones from LotGH or Berserk or something for example.
Otherwise just give me an extra cute girl.
>>344929947
>>344931740
>>344931818
Which one
>>344934902
AS2
mechs come with cuter girls and are therefore inherently superior
>>344934419
>HURR PUT LITTLE GURLS IN MAID OUTFITS IN EVERYTHING
>IT IS MORE INTERESTING AND UNIQUE
You know when you have this plastered over everything, it doesn't make it more unique, it makes it more of the same.
>>344931804
Holy shit this is real?
>>344935048
how fucking dumb can you be?
you name the webm wow but you make it fucking muted so she doesn't even say it
>>344934902
AS2 with the GSM mod is the latest if you just want to play online or fuck around with the god tier editor.
All are good though. Also don't forget Faces of War is a part of the MoW series. FoW, MoW1 and Red Tide are all about the campaign mode, they are some fucking fantastic games.
AS series is all about the online, and AS2 now has skirmish too.
I haven't played Condemned Heroes yet so I can't say for that one, but the Vietnam game is a stealth sub series and part of the Soldiers Heroes of WW2 games.
It's so confusing, there are like 3 different sub series and the names are all fucked in English. Russian names make sense.
>>344935297
>but you make it muted
hownu.ru
>>344933490
>>344933841
Could have been much better, slapping cute girls on things is basically admitting your product is sub par and you need those weeb-bucks.
Note that slapping them on is different from them being a core part of the product. NNB is solid, "X but cute girls instead" is not. Breast plate armour is fine as an option but I don't like when it's the only option, but I also don't play as girls so whatever.
It has nothing to do with security dude, it just adds nothing to the setting but detracts from any sense of immersion or realism or anything like that. Hearing your dudes yelling in CoH is awesome, hearing them spout random nipponese garbage while they run around in maid outfits is dumb.
>>344935072
There are barely any games outside of low budget weebshit, and a few unfinished mods that feature that though.
I'd love a big budget actually finished good game to feature Meido's and catgirls and all that shit in a shooter.
>>344933084
>WW2 rifles can go up to 1500 meters
lol
>>344935830
kek
The Tiger tanks were shit
Heavy tanks are a meme
>>344936056
Yeah, and here are the sights for Mauser C96. You know, the fucking pistol. They loved putting completely unrealistic ranges on their sights. Maybe for some kind of artillery-like mass shooting? I dunno. Anyway, you aren't expected to actually hit anything at the maximum range.
Alright bois, your CO hates your fucking guts and gives you a squadron of mechs, your task is to take out a tank formation a few miles out in a patch of forestry.
How do you make sure your stupid walking pieces of shit survive the assfucking
>>344935443
>slapping cute girls on things is basically admitting your product is sub par and you need those weeb-bucks.
Nah this is the old tired argument I've been reading since early 2000's. "If a game has sexy girls upfront, it must be relying on that and nothing else". It's literally just triggered faggots making excuses. I've gotten tons of games and films because of sexy girls are rarely been disappointed in the quality of the product.
I don't know how you fucks got the idea that putting a cute/sexy girl into something means every other aspect is deficient because it's a shit argument.
GuP was fucking fantastic in every department. Amazing animation, very well directed fight scenes that you were able to make sense off. Good characterizations. And yeah cute girls too. If you had redone GuP with no changes other than making some of the characters male, the show would have been worse.
Fuck you, and fuck all people who get triggered over attractive and cute female characters in media. Just because some RPG has some big titties bitch in it with skimpy armor doesn't mean the mechanics are shit. It just means the devs are hetero white males who enjoy fun and aren't politicizing everything. In fact probably means the game will be made with more love and effort than something else. Look at VtMB for example, every female in that is a fucking semen demon, not to mention the cover is just a hot girl looking sexy, and that game is top 10 of all time levels of good.
>>344929843
World of tanks
![latest[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/FnGKnfe.jpg "latest[1].jpg")
>>344929279
>Absolutely Based Tiger 205
>>344936056
A hold over from ww1 thinking where people peppered shots in masse at those ranges. You technically can shoot that far but it's not going to effectively hit anything close to what you want, especially with the nature of rushed production lines making less than ideal batches of rifles.
>>344936056
I have a gun from before WWI that has sights that go out to five kilometers. It's pretty much indirect fire at that point.
Just because the sights go out that far doesn't mean they're accurate to that distance. The idea militarily is just to send bullets in the general vicinity of the enemy and wait for lucky hits.
>>344928287
I'm waiting for something like a science-fiction version of Warthunder or World of Tanks. Just something like Chrome-hounds that has variety and lenience in realism to keep me interested.
>>344936380
shoot CO, surrender to tank detachment since they are better equipped to handle rough terrain
>>344936492
But world of tanks is shit and warthunder does tanks far better.
What about games where both tanks and mechs are viable options?
>>344929843
There was this tank game on the ps1 where people from around the world fought in a competitive league to see who had the best tank.
Wish i knew the name because i want to play it again.
>>344936408
Easy example. Senran Kagura. Fucking no one would buy that game if it wasn't for the cute girls. The gameplay is just strictly worse musou gameplay except you break clothes and everyone has big fat titties.
>>344936380
Every game I've played gives mechs way better stats so I just walk at them and kill them. I'm going to cite games such as Front Mission.
>>344936828
More games need tanks that were just experiments or never got to production.
>>344936828
There was that C&C tiberium arena that got canned
>>344936982
Kane's wrath
![610593[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/MzHbs1y.jpg "610593[1].jpg")
>>344937067
Dis
OP picked the worst possible example of a "tank" game.
It's a fucking MOBA third-person shooter where your character happens to be a tank, it doesn't do a very good job of representing A FUCKING TANK and the stresses/complexities involved.
Play Steel Beasts, you fucking pussies.
>>344936982
>Mechs
>Being equal to tanks in anyway
At least put effort into your bait.
>>344937056
I've never even played it because I don't buy handhelds
Almost every game in handheld is shovelwear anyways. Find me an actual AA or AAA game on PC or console.
Also don't compare GuP to some weebshit like Senran for fucks sake. I know there are pandering things about there, like Neptunia, but the difference is 90% of those games are just cute girls and 10% gameplay and other things.
GuP is actually about the fucking tanks and tank battles. It just happens to feature cute girls driving them, they don't get a big focus on their own.
>>344937256
>tfw nuclear powered tank.
>tfw even if they take you out you still win.
@344937383
stupid dumb anzu poster
>>344937604
I think you need to leave.
>>344929350
Tank legs are great in AC4/4A
Not having to steady yourself to use gernade launchers is GOAT
>>344932806
No, alle ist good.
>>344936320
>>344936056
it's called volley-fire and it's a holdover from 19th century tactics. a large number of soldiers fire at another very large number of soldiers at extreme range, without actually aiming at specific targets, rather just firing into the massed enemy
I'm not sure it was ever actually done in WWII but that's what the sights are for
>>344932047
>>344932345
>American
>>344937561
Nah, There is Landkreuzer P.2000 "Gott", no Landkreuzer P. 1500 will take care of it with its extreme long range fire.
Oh well, there are nazi UFOs
>>344936380
Depends, how fast are my mechs?
In any case, I burn the forest where they're in and call for an air strike on them when they get out. If my mechs are zippy I shoot their treads too.
>>344938013
Yeah but you actually get to customize them. Ironically Armored Core is also the best tank game.
>>344938197
you got the joke! good job anon!
>>344938228
Ah, but you wont see me coming anon. For you were looking for an attack by land and not sea.
>>344938416
Whenever I show this meme to my blind friend he doesn't find it funny.
>>344938235
>attempt to burn forest
>get shot 4km away
?
>>344938574
Maximum range of the M1 Abrams is 3500m. Stop inflating tank stats, they're not that great. Besides, if they're inside a forest they don't have that much sight range. You can get way closer and use incendiary rounds.
>>344938442
>This shit was supposed to fucking float
>>344938728
>Abrams
lmao fucking americans
>>344936380
Fly over there and effortlessly destroy those tanks.
All of you are wrong! WRONG!
I would kill for a game with mechs like in XCOM.
Something this size and so much force and yet so agile. Titanfall is the closest i ever got and it breaks my heart!
Mech vs Tank game when.
>>344936380
It depends on the mechs.
If just standard mechs every mech game seems to have you wait and ambush
If flying mechs you attempt aerial reconnaissance and go from there.
If it's to heavily wooded then it's just best to do shit on foot.
Now if it's a special snowflake mech or a next from AC4A you say fuck the forest and destroy it and the enemy units.
>>344938732
>Let's build a nuclear powered amphibious tank with everything in the turret.
Also have the M50 Ontos.
>Hey let's make a tank destroyer that's armed with six 105mm recoilless rifles. The only way you can aim it is by firing a 50cal, and you have to get out to reload.
>>344935327
It's nice to know more people talking about these great games. You mentioned the russian names make sense, what are they called in russian?
>>344939198
That thing is so fucking cool though, why isn't it featured in more media.
The only things I can remember it being in was BF Vietnam and MoW Vietnam.
>>344939473
Not many were made and only saw limited action in Vietnam. So probably not many people really aware of it existence.
>>344933841
>having an annoying cast of characters with stupid preteen drama or forced fanservice shit you can easily find on the internet
>having the setting and tone of everything made into MLPtier garbage
>fun
>>344936380
Depends on the squadron I have, I suppose.
Also, does the forest need to survive the nuking intact?
>>344933651
What is the point of this tankette?
Seriously, how exactly do they plan to use it? What is it for?
>>344936380
Shoot them with artillery cannons or guided missiles.
>>344939291
Outfront is the name of the whole series in Russian.
There is the Outfront games focused on smaller scale squads, stealth missions, infiltration and that sort of thing. That is Soldiers: Heroes of WW2, Silent Heroes: Elite Troops of WW2, the expansion packs for both those games and also Men of War Vietnam.
Then there is the larger scale focus's one, that still sometimes has small units based stuff, but a lot more big battles and controlling several squads and companies at once with tons of vehicles and combined arms approaches. This is Faces of War, Men of War, Red Tide and I think Condemned Heroes.
Then there is the online focused games. While the others are built around a tight well built campaign. The two Assault Squad MoW games are focused on competitive online and coop modes, with a completely different style of single players, with skirmish mode with AI allies from the GTS genre added as well.
In Russian they are apparently clearly labeled Outfront, then the sub series then the game. But in English it's all over the place and mixed up.
Also don't forget the spin off series that are being made now on the new GEM engines. Like Battle of Empires (WW1 setting), Call to Arms (modern warfare setting) and Gates of Hell (WW2 again) and I think there is another unannounced game in the works as well.
>>344940217
The Germans wanted a light armored vehicle that could be transported by air to the battlefield to support their airborne troops. They also wanted it to be able to mount different weapons.
>>344940453
>The Germans wanted a light armored vehicle that could be transported by air to the battlefield to support their airborne troops.
This concept has been tried SO MANY TIMES and it's never good. The Wiesel is cute and all, but how can you support troops if your armour is barely even resistant to small arms fire. Tankettes were alright during WW2 when man-portable AT was in short supply and not very effective, but those Wiesels look like a 40mm grenade could bust them up.
>>344940383
>with AI allies from the RTS* genre added as well.
Fuck I really should proof read my posts before posting them.
>>344940217
it's airmobile. it can fit in a large helicopter, or drop from a parachute out of the plane.
look up the BMD-1 and the Sheridan for similar vehicles
>>344940854
The thing is, man-portable ATs are just as good as cracking MBTs, these things are faster, lighter and cheaper, I guess that is the point.
>>344938235
>burn forest
>tanks just sit in there because every modern MBT is designed to get drenched in napalm and not fucking care
Mechfags need to just die
>>344941121
It's more to get rid of the forest not the tanks.
>>344941710
FREE smokescreen for the tanks
>>344943620
Works both ways you fool.
>>344940453
damn i love that light mobile assault gun
>>344938442
>>344937561
>I work as a Chrysler sales exec
>Never ever saw this mentioned in the training
>mfw
>>344936380
The thing about mechs is that they are made of fantasy science and can pretty much do whatever you want them to.
>>344934497
AHHHHHHHHHH FUCK WARGAME DONT REMIND ME
HATO SCUM DIE DIE DIE
How can mech even compete?
>>344946059
>look guys i can kill a zaku II with a tank
>meanwhile zakus can be killed by infantry units
>mfw
>>344940453
cute
>>344929350
Came here to say this.
Although I enjoyed Battle Tanx and Seek & Destroy (haven't played many other tank games), and am glad they're getting attention in at least some online military shootans.
>tfw eugen is never going to make a wargame 2
>tfw you can't enjoy steel panthers because of the i go you go bullshit
>>344932047
Nice try you fascist fuck.
What are some good mecha games that can be played on the PCor PS4?
>>344951808
Gigantic Army
im still waiting for this in game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wR8Q07jVNA
>>344935167
Of course not you dumbledore.
Warthunder makes me furious in ways I thought impossible. Too bad too cos its better than WoT by a long shot
>>344939974
Where is that gundam art from? I've seen other cool high res art that's by the same guy but I don't know what the source isg gundam best gundam
>>344940217
Sticking one of them behind enemy lines along with paratroopers will cause a fuckton of chaos to an army.
>>344938228
>>344937256
Superior soviet grotte landship will crush puny fascist landship
>tempted to order Gundam Breaker 3 from Play Asia
>it wouldn't arrive for at least a month AND I'd have to sign for it
>>344957434
Still no gun depression I see.
>>344938180
British machine guns during WWII had those sights for Billy fire. Though it was probably a bit for effective with a machine gun
>>344936982
I love that game
>>344936828
What if they made a game like world of tanks or wartunder, but with warhammer 40k tanks
>>344928287
>Prove me wrong.
MWLL
>>344932345
>tank crew wearing German uniforms
Immersion ruined.
>>344934902
Only "Men of War" and maybe Vietnam, Red Tide and Condemned Heroes when you're really into it.
Assault Squad 1 and 2 are absolute shit, don't fall for the meme.
>>344934146
>They can't afford an auto loader
>>344938075
Skorzeny is suck a con man it's ridiculous how he still gets praise and credit.
>>344960059
I like how W40k tanks look like WW1 or WW2 tanks fused together and then get an increase in size.
The closest tank that we would good to that image are probably those super-heavy tanks around ww2 (or between ww1 and ww2).
>>344960059
That's actually a 40K game I'd love and I've had the idea kicking around in my head for awhile. I figure it'd be like Space Marine, but you play and Imperial Guard Tank ace and work your way up from Sentinels to Leman Russ' and Baneblades.
>>344929279
>>344936543
>tfw Shultz dies
please no.
>>344929279
ayy ho, hol' up
Is that the stahlvormund
tanks = mechs
prove me wrong...
protip. you cant
spider tanks are best
>>344956476
For all of three days, and then your paratroopers are out of fuel, ammo, and food.
>>344964997
Treads are cooler.
>>344964997
yes
>>344965929
>didt post TA spider tank
you have ONE JOB, HAD
>>344940217
Light and fast for scouting and transport while staying protected from small arms And armed well enough to give support fire against infantry and light armor.
>>344928287
Couldn't agree more. Mechs are shit, there are some few exception like the Metal Gear and Zone of the Enders series, those mechs are actuallyfunbut in general tanks > mechs in terms of sexyness
>>344967846
tanks are shit.
mechs are better. except when they're flying in space, which is just dumb.
Sure OP but the question is.. would youfugga tank?
>>344967898
>mechs are better
It's 2016 and I still don't see any mech.
>>344967990
Well.
>>344967990
Only sexy tanks.
>>344936380
Draw the fuckers out, then pick them off one by one.
>>344962442
Tau would be fucking annoying to fight.
Space Marines also have rad vehicles, but their coolest ones are just upgunned transports (unless you count some Land Raider variants, including the one that has ALL THE LASCANNONS)
Chaos' best vehicles are probably daemons, since they usually can't afford all the good shit the loyalists have
Eldar would be pretty annoying to fight, until you fucking hit them.
Necrons would be pretty annoying to fight.
Orks will have looted shit out the ass and they can run over other races' puny tanks.
>>344969331
Land Raider IS an upgunned transport... Also, I'd so main a Hammerhead.
>>344928287
>World of Tanks
>not Armored Warfare
>>344969525
"The fist of Mont'ka is here."
>>344969701
Aw really starts to become better and better. I hope competitive play comes soon.
>>344969706
You know it!
>Armored power, moving out.
![OperationDECKHOUSEV006[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/urEwo7E.jpg "OperationDECKHOUSEV006[1].jpg")
Amphibious howitzers.
>>344928287
you confused board, I think you've post it on /m/
>>344934663
Abrams!
I use to love killing tanks in Front Mission 4.
It was kind of an 'oh shit' moment when they'd get into a formation and try linking attacks and blast off a cannon volley of like 3 or 4 of them and just thinking
>'oh shit please dodge, please dodge'
Then wrecking their shit with a machine gun.
Was funny running up to the things and beating the shit out of them with a pile bunker too then jumping out of the way when their reaction return fire went off. Get them cornered and they'd shoot again and get another pile bunker hit before they can shoot then they explode.
>>344972585
>mech's machine gun can destroy an MBT
I hate this.
>>344972585
>pile bunker
>>344947546
is that yuri lowell?
>>344936380
>>344936982
My niggerAgravsare better though.
>>344972005
Here have a jap tank.
>>344961416
But anon the entire series is a meme for hardcore autists
>>344972894
Mechs have a tremendous height advantage over tanks and tanks have paper-thin armor on the top of their turrets. Just having several degrees of inclination on a tanks' turret surface will allow the mech to punch through it with a fucking 30mm gun.
And if mechs are like those in Mechwarrior and can use jump jets, then it's automatic GG to any and all armored vehicles in urban combat.
>>344973460
>using avgrav
too floaty
>>344973681
Wow! Height advantage! I guess all those engineers trying to make modern tanks having as low of a profile as possible are fucking dummies! Height is an advantage, not a crippling liability!
>>344973651
Nice CRT.
>>344973805
>>344973960
It's a system that keeps the barrel leveled even while moving? Cool stuff.
>>344973681
If mechs can use JJs, then it's GG to any tanks on any terrain, unless it's perfectly flat. Just a few poptart mechs will pick any armor brigade with impunity.
>>344974047
Here have the Germans doing it back in the 70s.
>>344928287
why don't you start by posting a good Tank game
>Germans denied us the chance of making this a reality
>>344973757
You're literally retarded and don't understand what the argument is about. Also, only old soviet tank engineering school cared about low profile, neither the Abrams, nor the Armata have a low profile.
>>344961181
>he doesn't get it
>>344973681
>allow the mech to punch through it with a fucking 30mm gun.
That's why the A-10 use missiles to kill tanks and not 30mm gun, right?
>>344972894
Well it's because of 3 factors
1st that game has piercing/impact/explosive armor and MBT's have impact armor, so they're better at stopping shotgun rounds.
2. Mechs are taller than tanks, weak spot of the tank is the top armor.
3. Mechs are cooler than tanks
>>344973652
You're a meme for homosexuals.
>>344973715
>he can't handle agravs
Even old farts in their seventies manage to do it, you have no excuse
>>344928287
>>344929279
>mfw naziboos
Mechs are more fun. Games are meant to be fun. Realism isn't a requirement.
>>344935167
No, its a screenshot from a video game.
>>344974547
It uses missiles because of greater range and less risk. Also, aiming that gun during a very brief strafing run that can last literally 1-2 seconds is hard as shit.
Mechs, on the other hand, will always have at least a few degrees of inclination on a tank's turret top in urban combat, where distances are usually no more than 1-2km. When using a 30mm gun with DU APFSDS ammo, that's a deadly threat to any tank.
Moreover, if mechs are capable of using jump jets, then there won't even be a fight, it will simply turn into tank slaughter due to jump sniping and hitting tanks at even bigger inclination angles from above while the tanks won't be able to even fire back effectively.
>>344974564
>weak spot of the tank is the top armor.
that's because mechs don't exist and we don't have tanks designed against mechs
>>344974547
I wish I had a copy of the A-10 coloring book.
>>344974993
Ships > everything
Tankfags are you even trying???
The Tiger II in that game is such a gigantic pile of stinking dogshit. So sad, considering the Tiger I before it was amazing.
>>344974993
>>344975050
>T-62
>modern tank
>>344974934
>we don't have tanks designed against mechs
TANKS
BTFO
T
F
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>>344974904
A tank engaged in urban combat has much more problems than mechs. Lots of small bipedal problems.
>>344975159
It was modern in the 70s.
I will never get tired of posting this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4b-haPATmI
>>344974745
>even old farts can pilot
they are just easy mode.
who needs that.
>>344964997
You can be my nigga.
>>344974904
>if mechs are capable of using jump jets
Then tanks would be able to use it too.
>>344928287
Honestly I obviously can't argue why mechs would be better than tanksexcept as a wonky space/ground forcebut I could argue why mech games are better than tank games, but arguing with tankfags is a waste of time anyway since they never listen.
>>344975463
anon games have to be 100% realistic 100% of the time and if it isn't then its shit.
Everyone knows the best games are 100% true to life.
>>344975407
Wouldn't they then be just really flat mechs with tracks?
>>344974934
You can't design jumping tanks, so, if we're talking about a futuristic setting where both mechs and tanks exist and are at the same level of technological development in terms of weapons and armor, mechs will be superior by simply having greater mobility via jump jets.
Everything else is irrelevant, since even with highly inferior payload mechs will have superior firepower due to being able to hit tanks right in their weakspots while being extremely hard to hit mid-air or by simply occupying elevated positions since they can scale the terrain much better with jump jets.
>>344975407
Lolno, tanks are highly un-aerodynamic due to having a much bigger friction surface when jumping upwards. A tall, slender mech jumping upwards would be much more aerodynamic and efficient at jumping.
>>344973651
>NO, NOT TOO BIG, ONLY IN YOUR MIND
>>344975531
Or a tank with jets.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv0qg7zrjl4
>>344975685
phantomas is at it again
>>344928287
Tanks > Mechs
Tank Games < Mech games
>>344975550
FLOAT LIKE BUTTER
STING LIKE A BRICK
>>344975550
>You can't design jumping tanks,
Why?
>tanks are highly un-aerodynamic
And human shape is?
>>344969331
Obviously Tau would be one of the best, they have hovertanks so strafing is ezpz and the best guns to fucking demolish everything. Only thing against them would be armor, but who fucking cares about armor when you can just strafe fuck everything.
>>344975685
abrams have a jet engine that's how they move
>Source
walked too close behind one once
>>344975550
A tank could have jump jets, it just weights so much it'd probably break on the landing. No way treads would hold up at least let alone other stuff.
soviets> germans
prove me wrong
>>344964997
Hold on aren't spider tanks and spider mechs just the same thing. Why don't people hate spiderfags more since they literally can't choose.
>>344975830
>Why?
Because, when looking at them from above, their surface area is much bigger than that of a mech. All that friction kills any aerodynamic qualities when jumping upwards, which is the point of jump jets.
>And human shape is?
A slender and tall shape? Much more aerodynamic than that of a fat tank.
>>344975923
>No way treads would hold up at least let alone other stuff.
This. IIRC, tank tracks are supported by torsion beams, that are not effective at absorbing shock loads resulting from jumping. It's one of the reasons why you rarely see any of the tanks jump even on biggest shows.
>>344975550
a tank has significantly more attachment points for jump thrusters allowing vastly better balance
a mech trying to jump would end up faceplanting, then exploding
>>344975923
>A tank could have jump jets, it just weights so much it'd probably break on the landing
somehow I'd say a tank has a better chance of surviving a drop than a mech due to you know, not having to land multiple tons on fucking knees
Battlemechs when?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZBD2tcKOU4
>>344975982
And you think mechs will be a smaller and more aerodynamic target?
>>344976164
>a mech trying to jump would end up faceplanting, then exploding
>what is thrust vector control
M8, please. This is Soviet gen tech we're talking about here.
>>344976242
never, square-cube law makes sure the only "mech" we'll ever get is power armor
>>344928287
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4b-haPATmI
>>344975982
Given enough thrust, even a brick will fly.
>>344976316
>what is thrust vector control
not particularly effective on a shape as unbalanced as a mech with that many moving parts?
>>344976290
More aerodynamic, when jumping upwards? Absolutely.
Smaller target? Not necessarily, but it doesn't matter, since they will be significantly harder to hit. Have you ever seen a tank fire a kinetic rod penetrator even at a helicopter hovering in one place? With a jumping mech, you have to hit a target, moving along 3 axes with literally zero predictabilty, unless it'sin free-fall.
>tfw no recent good tank games
>not even spider/biped mechs
>>344976506
EDF has all of that and getting PC release in a few days
>Nazi tech wank
>transmission dies after 10 feet
MUHH NAZI TECH!!111111
>>344976395
>not particularly effective on a shape as unbalanced as a mech with that many moving parts?
Thrust vector control is completely automated and can balance literally anything in air (even ur mum), if you have enough computing power available and fuel expendiiture on a mech would in any case be much smaller, since they have significantly better aerodynamics, than tanks.
>>344972947
Yessir it's yuri in his knight uniform
>>344976468
unless that mech is powered by fairy dust trying full 3axis movement on it will rip it apart or send it spinning out of control
>>344976348
I'm okay with it, powered armour is rad as heck.
>>344976586
a mech would need to use virtually as much fuel landing as it needs ascending which negates its initial aerodynamic advantage given it would be incapable of handling even the slightest increase in stress on its legs
>>344976586
>if you have enough computing power available and fuel expendiiture on a mech would in any case be much smaller,
Unlikely, since you know, square-cube law.
>>344976348
i'd call anything bipedal 2.5m and taller a mech
>>344976838
difference between mechs and power armor is fairly simple
power armor is worn, mechs are piloted
>>344976629
M8, you don't need 3axis maneuvering to shit on any ballistic computers with non hitscan weapons. You use JJs to jump into the air, stabilize yourself for a fraction of a moment, alpha-strike with all your fucking guns, then enter free fall to land. Of course, it's logical to assume that future ballistic computers will be able to hit a free falling object as large as a mech with non-hitscan, kinetic weapons at reasonable distances, but even the slightest lateral thrust from JJs will produce unpredictable deviations (for the ballistic targeting computer) that will become even more significant as distance between targets increases and will reduce your entire accuracy to utter shit.
It's why you don't see tanks firing at slow moving helicopters with kinetic penetrators and never will.
>>344976468
Why do you think a mech would be more aerodynamic?
